The Great Men On Girls

Libertardian introduces CH readers to Herman Wouk, adding to our “Great Men On [X]” series,

‘“Pretty girls are just girls, Margie, you see. That’s what finally emerges. The most immoral slut among them, even a dumb roundheels like Imogene, at heart just wants a fellow and a nest and clothes and furniture. What’s more, they tend to be stupider than other girls, because being pretty makes life too easy for them. The day they sprout those charming breasts, they usually turn off their brains, and just bob along on the tide of attention and fun that starts up. Then after a while they’re twenty-five and have to start thinking again. Because by that time the breasts are beginning to droop and the fuss is dying down. Of course by then it’s too late, like as not. They’re empty-headed fools, they can’t read, they can’t talk, they can’t think, their emotions have been gutted by random sleeping around, and their lives are a shambles—”

Marjorie said, “You’re a cruel hound, do you know? A cruel hound.”’

Cruel to be kind.

Bonus Wouk:

Sadly every iteration of technological progress unlocks a new level of potential mental illness. Here’s Herman Wouk again with a rant from sixty (!) years ago:

“Being an actress (or a model, same damn nonsense) has become to the average American girl what being a knight in armor was to Don Quixote. It’s a process that’s going on all over the country, this addling of girls’ brains. … Nothing can stop it, until our civilization changes. Year after year troops of Marjorie Morningstars will converge on Hollywood and Broadway to be seduced, raped, perverted, prostituted, or—if they’re lucky like you—to merely tangle up in fornication for a couple of years and then go home to marry the druggist’s son or the doctor or the real estate man. I say you’re lucky because I’ve been a little more interesting and amusing, I’m sure, than the usual show-business deflowerer. It’s generally some asinine chorus boy or actor, or lecherous third assistant stage manager, who does the job. Or a producer, if a girl’s really worth bothering with. Or maybe a musician, or a phony Village writer needing a bath and a haircut. Some idle joker, anyway, who stays up late and has a lot of time on his hands for fooling around with the Morningstars.”

The attention whoring technologies of social media have opened possibilities for mental and emotional disorders like HPD to far more women than filmmaking ever did. It’s mass scale “addling” with even less payoff than casting couch opportunism.





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  1. […] By CH Libertardian introduces CH readers to Herman Wouk, adding to our “Great Men On [X]” series, ‘“Pretty girls are just girls, Margie, you see. That’s what finally emerges. The most immoral slut among them, even a dumb roundheels like Imogene, at heart just wants a fellow and a nest and clothes and …read more […]

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    • Except the most immoral slut can’t have it. Not the nest. Not with me, and not with any other man who has choices.

      Do I have a pristine virgin as a choice right now? Sure I don’t. But I bang sluts every now and then, and get into relationships every now and then. I am i no hurry to find one.

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      • > “Do I have a pristine virgin as a choice right now?” Nice Girls from Good Families, with strong masculine fathers who laid down the law: No iPhag, no Fuckerbook, no Tinderizer, no Selfies, you WILL wear a bra, etc. Might not be 100% virgins, but they’re your best chance at happiness.

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      • I don’t need a girl for my happiness. I don’t even care about being happy to be quite frank with you. If she’s not 100% virgin, she ain’t getting 100% of my commitment.

        And if a father failed to deliver a virgin, he isn’t the strong man he thinks he is either.

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      • QDAH, you’re gonna need a girl to carry your children fully nine months to term. And given the abject wasteland which is modern femininititty, you’d better start looking for her now.

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      • ZS

        I am looking. Met a couple of girls like that that I instantly hit it off with. But they were both already taken. Blah!

        Well, I am not getting any younger. I am almost 26. The places where I meet 16-19 year olds are very, VERY limited now. There may be no way now, unless I strategize.

        We’ll see.

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      • Zombie – I know what you’re saying, but realistically, if one does find a girl from a ‘good family’ (whatever that means) who does not use Facebook, Tinder, Iphone, Ipad, Icrap, etc. 24/7/365, isn’t tattooed like a 17th century pirate and/or pierced like the mohawked video-game villain she wants to fuck, isn’t a triple Single Mom at 19 and isn’t pining for her days as the basketball team’s cum bucket, how likely is it that that girl is any better than maybe a 5 if you’re lucky?

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      • on November 11, 2014 at 5:08 pm Pijama Wearing Ninja

        I have a similar problem with QDAH. I’m around the same age and my predilection for high-school seniors or university freshmen is getting harder to satisfy due to logistics. Maybe I should start shopping at supermarkets that are near high-schools and go for drinks at bars near high-schools or universities.

        It’s just farcically easy to make high-school boys look silly at this age. I have my own place, my own car and I’m most likely far more engaging than everyone in her high-school maybe except a few popular guys. I’m sure they’d appreciate being able to fuck a guy that isn’t screwing his first or second girl and that can actually make them cum and who does it in a comfortable bed instead of a park or while hiding from parents. lol

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      • on November 11, 2014 at 5:11 pm Pijama Wearing Ninja

        I have a similar problem with QDAH. I’m around the same age and my predilection for high-school seniors or university freshmen is getting harder to satisfy due to logistics.

        It’s just farcically easy to make high-school boys look silly at this age. I have my own place, my own car and I’m most likely far more engaging than everyone in her high-school maybe except a few popular guys. I can probably actually make them cum too. lol

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  2. first

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  3. Angelica Houston relates her relationship to Alpha Jack Nicholson. Note how long she hung around despite his behaviour.

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    • Lately I’ve been spending a lot of time wondering whether John Huston filmed The Dead as a pathos-driven requiem* of his own life, or whether it was his final desperate attempt to convince Anjelica to have children – she was about 35 or 36 when The Dead was being filmed, so her womb was probably still fertile.

      [*What’s an antonym for the Greek “paean”?]

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      • SPOILER ALERT: The Dead is the tragic story of a man who comes to discover that his wife was already an Alpha Widow before he ever even met her. And John Huston – on his deathbed – could probably see an Alpha Widow tragedy for Anjelica unfolding before his very eyes.

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      • And then of course there’s the question, now, almost 30 years later, of whether Anjelica even realizes what her father would have been trying to warn her about.

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      • I believe that is from a James Joyce short story.

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      • Right, it’s Joyce, and they say that Huston was obsessed with filming it before he died. But why the obsession? He has got to be aware of what Anjelica had been through with Nicholson, and he’s on his deathbed, and you’ve got to figure that he desperately wants grandchildren out of Anjelica. Maybe it’s as simple as him trying to tell her “GET THE HELL OFF OF BIRTH CONTROL AND GET YOURSELF KNOCKED UP BY NICHOLSON BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE!!!” And maybe Anjelica mis-interpreted what he was trying to tell her?

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      • Or maybe it was the opposite – maybe Anjelica was about to settle down and have children with a Beta, and her father [intentionally or unintentionally?] convinced her – by casting her in that role – as to how miserable she would be for the remainder of her life as an Alpha Widow married to a Beta who sickened her?

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    • Somehow, I don’t think ol’ Jack was doing much acting here:

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      • That chick played Darla in the Buffyverse and Dexter’s wife in the Dexterverse, so she’s got truly superior nerd-cred.

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      • on November 10, 2014 at 10:50 am Rufus T. Harlemberry

        Watching this scene with my ex-wife years ago, she couldn’t help saying “he’s right.” But even a woman who recognizes she lacks reason and accountability can’t change.

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    • on November 9, 2014 at 11:20 pm Mean Mr. Mustard

      It just goes to show you how a man (Jack Nicholson) with a high profile (fame/status), money AND options and who is aware of his value and who values himself above all can pretty much do whatever he wants without giving a f*ck and that women will still happily put up with it because they know they have reached the apex and can climb no further as far as their hypergamy goes.

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      • The evil here is not that Nicholson fucked her, or even so much that he pumped and then dumped, but that she gave him the very best years of her fertility and he returned the favor with precisely ZERO live births for her.

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      • Don’t be That Guy – that nihilist. If a young fertile woman is head-over-heels in love with you [and don’t kid yourself – you know when she is], then give her children. Don’t doom the poor girl to a spinsterhood living all alone in an apartment filled with cats.

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      • “ZERO live births for her”

        I’m laughing about how three or so years ago I set off an MRA shitstorm at Dalrock’s by saying that stringing a girl along is in effect the male equivalent of cuckoldry. I further added that a strung-along girlfriend is within her moral right to have an oops pregnancy after making her desire for a child known to her boyfriend.

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      • > “a strung-along girlfriend is within her moral right to have an oops pregnancy”

        THIS! God gives a woman such a very brief window within which to have children, whereas we men can have children well into our 50s and 60s [and in some truly exceptional cases, even longer than that].

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      • on November 10, 2014 at 6:33 pm Mean Mr. Mustard

        Zombie.
        Fuck her with a broken bottle.
        No-one picked her up by the scruff of the neck and forced her to go back.
        She went back, again and again on her own accord.
        Her hamster and hypergamy over-rode any rational analysis of the situation.
        She came out of it none the better and childless. (to him anyway).
        Someone play a sad, sad song on the worlds smallest violin for the plight of poor old Anjelica H; victim of her hamster and hypergamy; unable to change the ways of a dark triad, high value man with options.
        She tried to tap dance with the devil but neglected to wear her tap dancing shoes.

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    • Yet she kept going back to him for 17 years. Extreme alpha tells all throughout this article (like we didn’t already know with Jack) and she indirectly acknowledges as such.

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    • Why didn’t her father John ever beat the dogshit out of Jack Nicholson? He was fully capable of it, even by Prizzi’s Honor.

      This does explain Anjelica’s Oscar for that movie, except I don’t think she deserved it. She wasn’t acting.

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      • I’m wondering about that above – her father was dying [he wouldn’t have been strong enough to have confronted Nicholson physically], but the way that he cast her in The Dead has to have had some very profound significance to him [vis-a-vis what he must have known about her relationship with Nicholson].

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      • on November 10, 2014 at 6:35 pm Mean Mr. Mustard

        Better still, why didn’t her father slap some sense into HER and get her to stop going back?

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  4. BTW the above quotes are from the character Noel Airman in “Marjorie Morningstar”. His next book, “Youngblood Hawke”, is also a good primer on how to fuck up your life as a young man.

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    • I wonder if this open borders, ebola in the usa is nothing more then just a way to hedge against the burgeoning anti-vaccine movement. Because 20 million new unvaccinated people into the usa is a whole lot of money for vaccines, either in the open market or government subsidized. And before you start bitching about the 20million number do you think with 3-8 million work visas they wont bring their immediate family. which could be 15 to 40 million. add a couple 10 thousand ebola patients and their families. oh yes you all need this new fancy schmancy ebola vaccine. the best way to fuck up kids is take them to daycare and send them to school. if theres a way you can keep ur kids from being vaccinated id try to do that to id even become muslim if thats what it took.

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      • Kenyan bishops find that women were unknowingly sterilized in vaccination campaign
        http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3224688/posts

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      • WH: US-China visa deal a ‘game-changer’ [The next “immigrant” wave?]
        http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3225363/posts

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      • anonYmous, in the last five or ten years, I have flipped from thinking that every conspiracy theory is completely nuts to naturally assuming that every conspiracy theory is probably true. Our elites are COMPLETELY EVIL. Utterly relentlessly pathologically nihilistic.

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      • Once you study the evidence and it becomes obvious as hell that the three (sic) WTC towers were brought down by controlled demo, you won’t put anything past our so-called leaders.

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      • anti-vaccine people are fucking idiots. They are bringing back diseases which were previously eradicated

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      • I don’t go for tin hat stuff, but I do have to admit that the *timing* of the Ebola episode – and its’ super-extra-hyper-intensive media coverage – were a little suspicious. An October surprise that backfired, perhaps?
        ‘OMG! We’re all going to get a weird, extremely nasty virus!!! I NEED OBAMACARE NOW!!!!!’

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      • W65 – I think Rush Limbaugh nailed it – deep down inside, Li’l Barry Soebarkah Mrs Reggie Love WTFE hates white people so much that he wants to import Enterovirus-D68 and Ebola to cripple and murder all the white-as-the-wind-driven-snow children in their precious daycares and kindergartens and Montessori schools.

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      • A media blackout on Ebola & Enterovirus was ordered cuz the proles were gettin uppity and starting to connect the dots to open borders. All the controlled media (including Fox & Rush), said “Yes Sir!”, and stories have stopped dead.

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      • PA
        Once you study the evidence and it becomes obvious as hell that the three (sic) WTC towers were brought down by controlled demo, you won’t put anything past our so-called leaders.
        ——————————————————————————————–

        So am I still a stupid ni66er for suspecting the Apollo moon landing was faked?

        [CH: USG was less corrupted (and less corruptible) at the time of the moon landing.

        ps i don’t buy into 9/11 conspiracy theories, but if proven wrong i can’t say i’d be all that surprised.]

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      • on November 10, 2014 at 3:41 pm Hymen Mingesky

        Hyperbolic overestimate of the anti-vaccine crowd. Also, how much money us there really in vacs? Seems building immunities doesn’t allow for repeat business.

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    • I’m not anti vaccine. But it should be a choice. I’m not even personally against vaccines.

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      • on November 11, 2014 at 1:23 am Eliezer Ben-Yehuda

        > I’m not anti vaccine. But it should be a choice. I’m not even personally against vaccines.

        I’m not opposed to bathing at least once, in the 90 days before I go use the Public Library. But it should be a choice… I’m not even personally against bathing once every 90 days.

        I heard your town has a great Public Library. Which city was that, didn’t you mention it once? I want to visit !!

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  5. Ahh, but the strawberries that’s… that’s where I had them…

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    • Click-clack … click-clack …

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    • He knew perfectly well that he would never marry an Italian. They were mostly poor, untidy, vulgar, and Catholic. This did not at all imply that the fun was at an end. On the contrary, he could now more safely enjoy being with the girl, since nothing was going to come of it.

      May Wynn regarded him with narrowed eyes. “What are you thinking?”

      “The nicest possible things about you.”

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  6. …because being pretty makes life too easy for them…

    and feminism made them unaccountable.

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  7. The readers here will no doubt enjoy this truth talkers writings:

    “A fearless approach to the truth” — that’s how the British writer Anthony M. Ludovici (1882–1971) described his own character.

    “Throughout his thirty-odd books on subjects as varied as ideal marriage partners, Nietzschean philosophy, private property, the sculptor Rodin, and elitism, the penetrating and well-informed Ludovici always lays his cards on the table. Every page he wrote sparkles with incandescent ideas that stimulate debate.”

    http://www.anthonymludovici.com/index.htm

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  8. Here’s a teaser:

    “Perhaps Ludovici’s favourite among his many subjects was the relationship between the sexes. He treated it in over a dozen works of fiction and non-fiction, arguing that men differ sharply from women in their psychological make-up. To learn about Ludovici’s profound analysis of human psychology, read the complementary books, Woman: A Vindication and Man: An Indictment. (His short story, A modern Delilah, portrays female characters in more graphic terms.)”

    http://www.anthonymludovici.com/intro.htm

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    • More realtalk::

      “For Ludovici’s attack on feminism and his belief that women should concentrate on bearing and raising children, read Enemies of Women and the 10-part essay, Woman’s contribution to Britain’s national decline.”

      http://www.anthonymludovici.com/ew_int.htm

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      • From the same:

        “As for the mass of mankind in Anglo-Saxon countries, they will require many rude awakenings and much cruel suffering before the whole of the Feminist fuss and noise will appear to them in its true light, as. merely a phase in the degeneracy of the male, and a phase which, as might have been anticipated, has. brought more misery, disease and death than satisfaction and joy to the majority of women.”

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      • Ludovici is a must read and not only on women
        but before that a tribute needs to be paid to the ultimate red pill man
        Otto Weininger
        His Sex and Character is one the ultimate red pill books
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        Since the soul of man is the microcosm, and great men are those who live entirely in and through their souls, the whole universe thus having its being in them, the female must be described as absolutely without the quality of genius. . . . There is no female genius, and there never has been one . . . and there never can be one. Those who are in favour of laxity in these matters, and are anxious to extend and enlarge the idea of genius in order to make it possible to include women, would simply by such action destroy the concept of genius. . . . How could a soulless being possess genius? The possession of genius is identical with profundity; and if any one were to try to combine woman and profundity as subject and predicate, he would be contradicted on all sides. A female genius is a contradiction in terms, for genius is simply intensified, perfectly developed, universally conscious maleness. . . .
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      • Now hold on Cortesar, I had a girlfriend who was a GENIUS at sucking cock; yes, she was that good at it; creative, dynamic, she would go to war on your cock for as long as it took you to cum; this bitch was ridickulus with a dick in her mouth.

        Now Im not gonna let a guy blow me just to make sure so you’ll hafta take my word for it. There is at least 1 girl genius in this world.

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      • I have known at least two women who were “geniuses” in bed,

        but many of my ex girlfriends were pretty good at inventing reasons to pick a fight.

        once there was nothing left to fight about they would switch side and argue from that new position.

        they were geniuses, evil geniuses…

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      • Thwaky boy now and then you have your good moments
        This is not one them

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      • Whats the problem Coontesar?

        You never had a girl give you genius head?

        Sux to be you (pun intended)

        Look man, her logic was airtight. She was “burdened” by a 6 face on an 8 body. I asked her how she got so good at it and she told me she wanted to make guys associate her face with pleasure.

        Thats may be how it started, but I strongly suspect she just loved cock, wished she had one, and working her magic was a proxy for owning one.

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      • Now hold on Cortesar, I had a friend who was a GENIUS at sucking cock; yes, he was that good at it; creative, dynamic, he would go to war on your cock for as long as it took you to cum; this bro was ridickulus with a dick in his mouth.

        Now Im not gonna let a bitch blow me just to make sure so you’ll hafta take my word for it. There is at least 1 guy genius in this world.

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      • Shut up Greg

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      • Otto Weininger is where it is at!

        I wish more PUAs, MRAs, and MGTOWs knew about him! Usually these folks just stop at the misogynistic musings of Schopenhauer and Nietzsche. Do not stop there! Weininger has got more to say!

        Also old Otto had some very incisive thoughts on the Races and Protestant Christianity.

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  9. “I never met a dame who didn’t understand a shlap in the face or shlug from a .45”

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  10. Ludovici is a treasure trove of Man Knowledge and should be inducted prima facie into the Great Men series:

    “The state in which men are most prone to sentimentalize over women, especially young and attractive women, and to exalt them unduly, is one of sex-starvation or tumescence, acute or sub-acute.

    The chaste young Englishman who, in the plenitude of his sexual potency, and half-mad with longing, introduces to his horrified family a fright of a girl whom he declares to be the greatest beauty on earth, is in a condition which totally unfits him to judge correctly any young woman whatsoever.

    As most parents know to their cost, to remonstrate with him while he remains in this condition, is not only futile, but also dangerous; for it tends only to increase his illusion. Besides, it threatens him with the loss of what his instincts tell him is the only means of relief for his tumescent state.

    Marriage in such circumstances, although unfortunately frequently allowed today, is likely to be at best a failure, more often a disaster. For it is not love, but tumescence that is blind.

    The extraordinary feature of these cases is that, while the elders in the family concerned are often revolted by an infatuation which, regarded soberly, looks like lunacy, they rarely, if ever, ascribe the anomaly to its proper cause. They think the youth stupid, blind, wilful and weak; but never appreciate.”

    http://www.anthonymludovici.com/ew_03.htm

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  11. Ludovici is gold:

    “But, just as mild chronic tumescence in the middle-aged married male of the middle classes, makes him susceptible to women’s empire, so the total and persistent chastity of males, who for some psychological reason are impotent, makes them both subservient to women and inclined to worship them.”

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    • Thanks for bringing him up, Pluvio! One of many reason I love this site–so much knowledge and information shared.

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  12. OT – Putin does it again in this photo with Chinese leader Xi.

    Note Xi’s try-hard smile and leaning in posture. Putin is relaxed, yet rim-rod straight with a self-satisfied smirk.

    When are we gonna get a guy like this?

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    • Yes, Putin is capo di tutti capi of alpha males, but you’re reading too much into this. I don’t see so much a ‘try hard’ smile as a grimace. I could equally argue that Putin is stiff and having to shake Xi’s hand ACROSS his body, whereas Xi ha openess. You’re reading into it what you want to – confirmation bias.

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    • BS.
      China’s eating Russia’s lunch economically, and could easily kick their ass militarily, if it ever came to that – and we better all pray it doesn’t.
      Putin probably just begged for a loan extension and Xi is trying to compute the interest in that cash register Asians have instead of a brain/soul/heart.

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      • Tricky Dick managed to split the Soviets and Chinese apart.

        W. Bush, with his rush to put missiles into Poland, greatly antagonized Russia and they have wisely repaired their relations with China as a response to Neo-Conish aggression. W. Bush basically pushed Russia into the Chi-coms arms! STUPID STUPID! After all the hard work that Kissinger and Nixon did! (Pat Buchanan has written extensively about this)

        In the current situation Russia is trading advanced arms technology to China (ALL of their missiles are one generation ahead of ours!) for a chance to have some access to Chinas massive market for other goods. Also Russia is trading some natural gas and oil, although China gets alot of that from Iran as well.

        Right now this secures the Russian Far East and Putin can concentrate on taking candy from a Barack, I mean baby. (Crimea)

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      • on November 10, 2014 at 3:48 pm Hymen Mingesky

        Chiners still rely on Rooskies for energy, Rooskies on Cina for capital. Nothing else matters after that because of ICBMs

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  13. Don’t confuse social dominance with anything else. Mussolini was dominant, and stupid. Franco was apparently boring and annoying, but could add two and two all day and get four. Compare/contrast how each ended. I’d settle for a slob like Grant, a boring guy like Ike, or born killer with a Quartermaster’s demeanor like Sherman. [Putin’s screwed with oil this low. Xi rules China. See who lasts longer.]

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    • Mussolini wasn’t an idiot. That was a post-war thing, trying to make him look like an idiot. He ran a functioning fascist state for decades and was regarded by fellow fascists as a genius.

      It’s fashionable today to say that nobody was a fascist back then, but there were plenty of respectable intellectuals, artists, writers, etc. who firmly believed that the collapse of Western capitalism would come about any day now, despised traditional culture, thought that they had invented a cure for all humanity’s ills, so on and so forth. Very much like today’s Progressives, although I am sure they will react violently when informed of this relationship.

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    • All those stupid Shkotzim fools just lining up like lambs before the slaughter.

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  14. What kind of feminist refers to the little sister she molested as “the campus bicycle”?

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  15. Looking for a bit of feedback guys. Recently getting back into the night game after dumping my main….we’re talking 10 month hiatus… Female aggressiveness or coincidence?

    Went out this weekend, live music venue, dark and hard to see, pretty loud and tough to segue into conversation…so I was just enjoying the music for the time. Jumping ahead about 15 minutes I am scanning the room when I get ass checked from behind, surprises me, take a look back, it was a girl, slender with black hair, tight little dress, there was plenty of room behind me. She didn’t look back, just kept moving to the other side of the room. I feel like I should have chased, but didn’t. A min or 2 later she is back in view, with friends behind me, they are laughing and looking in my direction, maybe noticing my confusion….went and grabbed a beer to avoid hovering after that. lol.

    2nd occurrence was same location, 10 minutes later, near the door, watching band play, enjoying music and not paying much attention to anyone. Hands by my side, contrapposto, minding business when from behind, 2 hands grasp both my forearms, slide down to my hands and slips by me, away she goes, this one was hot, and she went right into the middle of the dancing crowd, again I did not follow. See her 10 mins later touchy feely with another tall guy not too far from me.

    Feel like I failed hard, but was nice to go out and see some new tail running around at least….advice? IOIs or not, I know I should be approaching, and I will get back into it for sure, but were these just blatant AIs that I missed out on?

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    • Time for an IQ check, buddy.

      I can almost see you debating with yourself after she sticks her hand down inside the front of your pants “ah, she is just checking to see if I brought my car keys and just missed my pocket”.

      Women really don’t hand you a much easier opportunity. Scratch what I said above. You don’t need an IQ check, you need a Testosterone level check. Find a male clinic and set up an appointment for a blood test.

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      • Understood, quite bad on my part. Just never had a chick approach me like that before, let alone two of them in a half hour. Big change seeing last weekend I was spending fri/sat on the couch with the ex ol lady.

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  16. Mr. Wouk refers primarily to actresses, so let’s stick with that.
    Media – movies and TV in particular – have always been fields which have drawn large numbers of attractive women and greatly facilitated access to such women for men who would otherwise have NO such access.
    The short, the old, the fug, the bald, or the otherwise nasty, disgusting and sub-par.
    Most movie- or music producers would NEVER get laid if they were plumbers.
    Same goes for guys like Angus Wilson (AC/DC), Sam Kinison, Steven Tyler, et. al.

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  17. Marjorie Morningstar is one of my favorite books! There’s definitely a *lot* of “red pill” in there. But Wouk had her ultimately rejecting the alpha, who finally caved and wanted to marry her. And the alpha ended up a loser in a bad relationship, while she ended up happy with her beta husband.

    [CH: sounds like wouk caved. #happyendingsyndrome]

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    • Yiddish melodrama…

      But yeah, I at least enjoyed the movie, and when they tell on themselves, even a little, back in the day. Natalie Wood and Gene Kelly… they made such lovely YKWs.

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  18. This goes to show that there have been ‘red pill’ Men telling truths to pussy since the Age of the Attention Whore dawned on an unwitting and witless America. Hopefully, our numbers are growing.

    Women showing signs of AWS seem constitutionally unable to learn from past mistakes (their own, or the mistakes of the millions who came before); evidence of the imminent demise of their body, looks, and soul can be spelled out in in neon before their ‘thousand-cock’ staring eyes, yet they refuse to believe such a fate awaits them.

    It must be the societal habit of kissing girls’ ass and always agreeing with them that infuses this “I’m special’ mentality into their mind; our attempt to pamper the fragile female ego only results in wasted, ruined cougars and spinsters sewing quilts with the cobwebs betwixt their vein-ridden thighs

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    • on November 10, 2014 at 3:16 pm depressed_danny

      I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but women have ALWAYS been repugnant whores, both sexually and for attention. It’s hardwired into their very souls and men have been aware of it since the dawn of civilization.

      Just read this http://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/JuvenalSatires6.htm#anchor_Toc282858852 which was written back in the 200’s AD. Roman writers were writing about how their women worshipped useless but famous men (actors, gladiators, etc), how women no matter how high her status loved to act like a low class slut,. Hell! They even wrote about how there are very few women of virtue to marry.

      This shit is eternal. Men are the builders. Men are the light. Women are the destroyers and the darkness, and the rise of humanity has been one long struggle of men trying their best to keep this shit running while women do their best to wreck it all. It’s an immortal battle, one which will never go away. You can nuke the world into some barely liveable, Arrakis level existence, putting all your women in Hijabs and beating them senseless when they step out of line – and they’ll still be worthless whores of burden at every opportunity.

      Just accept the fact that women will never be what we want them to. They will never truly possess any virtues or morals, a relationship with one will never fulfil you. 99/100 women you meet are guaranteed to be a burden on your life and on our soul. Just use the young ones to satisfy your lust and channel your energy into other endeavours. Stop wasting your time looking for a good women, because almost none exist. Its just not in their nature.

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      • Good points. The parallels between Roman society and our own are both terrifying and sobering. I was reading a book recently about “Life in Ancient Rome” (i think that was the title) and the author mentioned Juvenal in this capacity. He also pointed out that when women were given free reign, they used their newfound liberty to raise divorce rates, bang ‘celebrities’ (famous soldiers, actors, gladiators), and spent enormous sums of denari on trivial bullshit. It’s a relatively old book, but not so old that the author could just leave it at that; he followed the section about women and their follies with a few heart-lifting tales of female empowerment.

        I can see the destructive power of women, and have to wonder if socierty is really just man’s attempt to conquer the world despite wimmin’s capacity for chaos. It seemed America had done quite well in that respect, until feminism cam along and wrought its hellish havoc

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  19. Casanova speaking of a very intelligent Marquis of his acquaintance:
    “He was nearly sixty, a thorough disciple of Epicurus, a heavy player,
    rich, eloquent, a master of state-craft, highly popular at Genoa, and
    well acquainted with the hearts of men, and still more so with the hearts
    of women. He had spent a good deal of time at Venice to be more at
    liberty, and to enjoy the pleasures of life at his ease. He had never
    married, and when asked the reason would reply that he knew too well that
    women would be either tyrants or slaves, and that he did not want to be a
    tyrant to any woman, nor to be under any woman’s orders.”

    Equalism is a farce

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    • An absurd farce; women LOVE being submissive, yet society is telling them to pretend they don’t. And they listen.

      Feminists, perhaps because they both designed and partook in this absurdity, think they can program men to stop enjoying what they naturally enjoy just by telling them to (via cultural controls and everyday rhetoric). But men are not women; we will not stop being men just because its currently in style. At least, the REAL men won’t.

      Unfortunately, we seem to be a dying breed. Let’s hope the white knioghts forsake their vows and throw down their limp lances before its too late

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  20. “It’s generally some asinine chorus boy or actor, or lecherous third assistant stage manager, who does the job. Or a producer, if a girl’s really worth bothering with.”

    Jasmin Wagner, or Blumchen lost her virginity to her jewish manager back in the day. http://israbox.com/uploads/posts/2008-12/1228090720_blumkq0.jpg It is more common than we think.

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  21. I’ve always thought that the final entry in Wally Wronken’s diary was Wouk’s primary purpose in writing “Marjorie Morningstar,” and that the several hundred pages devoted to Marjorie and Noel’s interplay existed primarily to set up and put into context Wally’s entry. At least that’s how it hit me when I read the book as a young man more than thirty years ago. (In today’s vernacular, that was my red pill moment.)

    Wouk does a superb job capturing the instinctive, all-consumming, animal-lust of the irrational young female for the alpha male — Noel calls it a “tropism” if I remember correctly — as well as the visceral pain felt by the infatuated beta who gets to watch it all happen in sickening disbelief. He also states some uncomfortable truths regarding the shelf-life of a girl’s beauty, the commonality of her special uniqueness, and the normal male response to a woman with “experience.” In the final pages of the book, we learn that Wally at some point has taken the red pill, and at age thirty-nine, now see’s both Marjorie and the world as they really are. (In this regard, our gracious host is merely the latest messenger of these ancient truths — there is nothing new under the Sun.)

    Read the reviews of the book today and it’s amusing to see our modern young bimbos express their unease about that final entry. They “love” the book (especially the parts about Marjorie chasing the alpha and setting out to be an actress) but don’t like being reminded that both pursuits are often unfruitful and unfulfiling. It would have been much better if Wouk and Wally never told us how things played out. For some reason, they think having a happy marriage to a successful man and a big house filed with kids is some sort of tragedy. Or mayby it’s the fact that Wally finally figured things out. Either way, it makes them squirm.

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    • Great summary. It’s a good book for a teenage girl to read (I think I was 14 when I read it) for many reasons, but I remember absorbing that theme of “not-so-specialness”, something the heroine fortunately discovers about herself in time to do what she really wants, which is get married and have a family.

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  22. on November 10, 2014 at 4:33 pm Beautiful Truths Ignored

    Ok, so Herman Wouk knew how to gloat about what his tribe has done to mine.

    This makes him a Great Man in the eyes of the Dark Enlightenment.

    Noted.

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    • Because gotta put lipstick on that sow of what THIS tribe did to their tribe.

      Furthermore, when there aren’t (enough) Jews around for the job, this tribe imports Pakis for the seedier aspects of societal order maintenance, ANYWAY.

      Don’t worry, ex-zhyds ain’t particularly bright, they’ll do as told by the communitee leaders, up to and including boarding them cattle cars without fuss,

      they’ll do the Muh-dik brag, a the way to the showers.

      …. Don’t get me started on the delusions entertained about the current predicament by my popish brethren

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  23. If you haven’t read “The Caine Mutiny”, I highly recommend it.

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  24. I don’t know, after watching this I think this organization is a smart parody. But who can tell anymore?

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