Hot Tub Gine Machine

There’s a game skill for every situation. Benson explains how he navigated what could have been an awkward scene by assuming his prerogative as a man and LEADING his woman to a comfortable and relieved submission to his authority (and bats away her loaded shit test while he’s at it).

tl;dr: I avoided an awkward situation and had sex in a hot tub last night.

Last night I’m walking to the hot tub with a girl I’ve been seeing for a couple of weeks. As we get to the gate, I see two couples in the water. “Cool,” I say to myself, “I’ll introduce her to my neighbors, maybe offer them a beer.”

But we walk in and notice two things about them: they’re very young, probably still in high school, and they’re fooling around. So much for socializing.

We’re already there and I’m a little drunk besides; so there’s no way I’m walking back to my apartment, though my girl is visibly uncomfortable. I grab her by the hand and lead her into the hot tub, and we carry on drinking and hanging out like they’re not there.

Conveniently, one of their moms comes by a few minutes later and breaks up their party. Once they’re out of earshot my girl says, “Don’t get STDs, kids.”

Me: “They’re little sluts.”

Her: “Hey, we had sex on the first date. What does that mean about me?”

Me: “That you were overwhelmed by my sexiness.”

Her: And that you’re a slut.”

Me: It’s true, I’m a total manwhore.”

Then we banged. Later, as we walked back to my apartment, my girl grabs my hand and says, “Thanks for not letting me make that awkward.”

Also, this blog cures depression and everything that sucks about life.

Nicely done. The critical juncture in this snapshot of a love match in motion was the moment Benson faced down, and passed, his woman’s innocent-but-not-really query about what he thought of her decision to put out on the first date. The typical beta would’ve assured her he never meant she was a slut, or that she was easy, and let the record show he only has a high opinion of her faire maiden’s virtue.

Benson wisely chose another course of action, the Way of the Game-Savvy Alpha, and sidestepped her beta bait trap by ASSUMING THE SALE.

“that you were overwhelmed by my sexiness”

The woman’s departed confession — “thanks for not letting me make that awkward” — is a surprisingly candid self-assessment that, translated through the super-sassy CH-decoder instrument of salacity, really means “thanks for being a dominant force calming the chaos of my emotionally charred female id-scape”.

Sentient adds:

The beta bait… A&A!!! Her reframe… A&A!!! The stronger frame wins!!!and seriously, think about how fraught with peril this kind of ‘feelings” conversations is for the non game aware… “no baby you are not a slut… You’re special…. blah blah blah” – death. and think about how much her “sluttery” was preying on her mind, ex post facto – and how your good feelz beat bad feelz. Good feelz for the win!

Betas love the idea of “feelings” conversations because betas are romantic idealists at heart and have no understanding of the true nature of women. Betas tend to project what they themselves want to hear from women — a steady stream of sappy feelings and vows of love for the beta — onto women as something they believe women wish to hear from men, and so it is that betas fool themselves into sounding precipitously similar to women when all the women want is for the beta to act more like a cocksure, self-entitled, sexily aloof, charming, ZFG alpha man.


  1. on October 20, 2015 at 3:23 pm Laguna Beach Fogey

    “That you were overwhelmed by my awesomeness. And my big dick.”


  2. on October 20, 2015 at 3:25 pm Captain Obvious

    > “we walk in and notice two things about them: they’re very young, probably still in high school, and they’re fooling around… we carry on drinking and hanging out like they’re not there. Conveniently, one of their moms comes by a few minutes later and breaks up their party… Thanks for not letting me make that awkward…” ——— When I first read it, I thought that, for Benson’s date, the awkward thing was encountering the children in the hottub, and she was thanking him for leading her into the hottub anyway. Also, from the Evil Establishmentarian TradCon point of view: WTF KINDUVA “MOTHER” ALLOWS HER UNDERAGE KIDS TO HAVE UNSUPERVISED MAKEOUT SESSIONS IN HOTTUBS? Frigging child abuse right there. The very day they turn 18, those poor girls will start their own XHamster/P0rnhub/Redtube channels.


    • on October 20, 2015 at 3:27 pm Captain Obvious

      And the other obvious point is that the day they pass the age of Legal Consent in Benson’s jurisdiction, Benson can slay those little girls’ snatches. Heck, in a state with a sufficiently low age of Legal Consent, they might be legally slayable already.


    • on October 20, 2015 at 3:38 pm mendozatorres

      Betas love the idea of “feelings” conversations because betas are romantic idealists at heart and have no understanding of the true nature of women.

      It’s like you’ve known me my whole life. I was beyond guilty of this.


      • on October 20, 2015 at 4:08 pm Captain Obvious

        > “romantic idealists at heart” ——— MT, anyone, who isn’t at least a little bit of a romantic idealist at heart, is either a frigging nihilist, or else an outright psychopath [psychopathic nihilist]. What we need to to is to weave Dark Enlightenment Truths into the romanticism. For instance, young fertile women need our White Knighting precisely because Hypergamy makes them helpless in the face of masculine Evil, ergo our White Knight Goodness must be EVEN MORE MASCULINE than Evil’s masculinity.


      • on October 20, 2015 at 4:13 pm mendozatorres

        I hear ya, Cap’n. Working on my weaving skills. True story. Good stuff, senor!


      • on October 20, 2015 at 4:19 pm Captain Obvious

        Also, in re White Knighting & Hypergamy: I mean that Hypergamy dictates that the White Girl will get laid, ergo Dark Enlightenment White Knighting requires a Good male [e.g. a mendozatorres] to step forward and slay the White p00ntang, so that it won’t be slayed by an Evil male [an Eskimo or a Noggish subhuman or a Mohammedean or similar].


    • I agree. My “they’re little sluts” comment just triggered her guilt and gave me a chance to smash it to smithereens. The relevant part of the conversation was no doubt peripheral in her mind. Just underscores that they aren’t conscious of the dynamics we spend so much time analyzing. Or as sentient put it, “Good feelz beat the bad feelz.”


  3. When I was in HS I banged my high school sweatheart in a their parents hottub while her sister did the same with her boyfriend. That was my hottub gine machine!!! lolzlolzlolz!!!


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  5. Used to fail this test every time. If you say she isn’t a whore, you’re a pussy who’s lying to himself; if you say she is, you’re an asshole.

    Last response to it I made: “That you love me. Or … don’t you?” with sarcastic frown. Then let her know that yes she is a slut later on.


  6. So, he banged a slut he had already been sleeping with for weeks? Congratulations?

    [CH: first, you don’t know if she’s a slut. (first date sex isn’t a guarantee of sluttitude.) second, what makes you think the game ends after panties come flying off?]


    • game does come much more naturally after the first o-faces are exchanged. its still nice to see examples of alpha though.


    • It is not that he banged her, it is how he handled the situation.


    • on October 20, 2015 at 7:36 pm Sean Fielding

      Exactly, CH – the more desirable the woman, the more repeatedly Game is needed to keep her panties flying off. Understanding this separates the greater beta from the lesser alpha. The greater beta learns some Game, right here say, pulls a hottie with it, and then is surprised that she doesn’t immediately offer her pussy up out without discussion, twice every day for the next six months.

      To learn Game was a great achievement for him, but a tremendous amount of emotional work too, especially in overcoming his inhibitions, so he resents the need to keep it up on a chick he thinks he has permanently ‘won.’ Ironically, it’s even his newfound Game that causes this attitude – he’s so proud of himself for deploying it to victory, that he’s in fantasy land where he’s the alpha king forever; back in his lesser beta days he would never have developed such over-confidence.

      You move up to lesser alpha when you realize this need to continue gaming a desirable woman in a relationship is actually a gift, because it allows you an opportunity to incorporate Game lessons not just as strategy, but as personality, to actually permanently change yourself. (Lesser alpha, because naturals don’t need this incorporation – they already just are that way.)


  7. “I grab her by the hand and lead her”… Said no beta ever…


    • on October 20, 2015 at 3:58 pm mendozatorres



    • “I grab her by the hand and lead her”… The beta white knight meekly said “thats assault”


    • It’s amazing how the dynamic changes once you realize that they want to be led:

      Me: Let’s stop in here, I want a beer.
      Her: OK!

      Her: Where are we going?
      Me: We’re going to x at xxx
      Her: Sounds like a plan!

      Me: Let’s go make out on that old train (display in the downtown district)
      Her: Isn’t that illegal?
      Me: Probably
      Her: *Approving smile*

      Me: Carries her to my bedroom at the end of the night
      Her: *Giggles*

      All is right in the world. I love it.


  8. You may have seen this picture before. You most likely have not seen the edit at the very bottom:

    From here:


    • A friend of mine had this to say:
      “I actually kind of agree with that cartoon in a way. Being born into a family with decent money is privilege, but not in the way they are thinking. What it really is is an advantage, an advantage that was earned by their parents. And that advantage is within the parents’ right to pass on to their kids. Even the fact that it is easier for them to stay at the front is fine since I wouldn’t want to live in a society where after getting all of my money I was still just as likely to lose it.

      “To make this more accurate, each student who makes a shot moves up a row and each one that misses moves back a row. Then do the exercise again. Give it enough cycles and the best ones are at the front and the worst are at the back. This is fair and based on skill, so I see nothing wrong with it.”


      • on October 21, 2015 at 5:56 am gunslingergregi

        i dont think people quite understand priviledge and what it entails its a lot of fucking work
        i was born to it and yea had the added 20 hours a week of added paid activitied someone had to get me to the classes i had to go and work on shit
        didnt seem like work though to have 8 million added things going on
        teaches you to fit more shit in a day which means you can get more done
        the privilaged life of never ending work


  9. Her: “Hey, we had sex on the first date. What does that mean about me?”

    alt response: it means your a slut. now come ere s-l-u-t we got work to do (spoken in proper zfg-ese)



  10. Solid game there Benson. Shows how an alpha’s calm and detached frame locks down the pussy. Speaking of which, think about how try-hard and non-alpha MSNBC’s catchphrase “Lean Forward” and Sheryl Sandberg’s femcunt book title “Lean In” are. Those two phrases encapsulate everything the beta does wrong….leaning forward/in to conversations and life situations like a hungry dog. I’m going to write a two-word book on how to be an alpha. It’s called “Lean Back”


  11. A woman asked me what I thought of our sex on the first date.

    I asked her what her name was again.

    double insult rape!


    • on October 20, 2015 at 4:10 pm Captain Obvious

      That’s actually an outstanding line right there, WF.


      • Name game, if you want to call it that, is probably the easiest way to play ONCE the beta manages to start talking to her. Constant mispronunciations, forgetting, etc.


    • on October 20, 2015 at 4:13 pm mendozatorres



    • more tape rape!


    • I have honestly forgotten names when I’ve met women before. It used to bother me and I would never re-ask, but now after some conversation if I am actually interested, I just blatantly interrupt her and say “Hey – what’s your name again?”

      It does kick them back a little, but I’m not gaming them purposely I just don’t care what their names are if I’m not that into them. I noticed that they seem more interested – thinking “who is this guy that doesn’t remember who I am – the special snowflake?”


  12. OT: I used to think that CH was exeggarating the SatCtude/weirdness of big blue metropolis chicks (dating 5 men at once, minimum), but now that I’ve read the wayback machine remnants of a certain NYC golddigger blog, I know he’s been lowballing it.

    Holy, fucking, CRAP.

    PS: these chicks have the self awareness and honesty of prostitutes. I almost believed that it was a put on.

    In case you want to know, it’s the Dating a Banker Anonymous blog (

    Absolutely disgusting.


  13. A way to spark a beta’s interest in learning about red pill: tell him that men are romantics pretending to be realists and women are realists pretending to be romantics.


    • Women are women pretending to be detached and aloof. That seems more apt, surely in this context when you say ‘romantics’ you’re immediately turning from the assumed usage of the term in that context, which doesn’t necessarily guarantee appeal here.


  14. on October 20, 2015 at 4:37 pm TSpark 156 from mobile

    As I was reading the final section of the post regarding the suffering of betas that project, and mis-read womens seemingly turned around psycho-cues, Is She Really Going Out With Him? by Joe Jackson came on the radio. The lyrics outline the permanently perplexed state that betas experience when women give a clear demonstration of what turns them on by dating, and sleeping with the local thug boys.
    Sycronicity Rape.


  15. Funny because something similar happened to me a couple months ago with the woman I am seeing now.

    She was asking about other women I had dated, what I thought of them, and when she asked if I had a bad opinion of her because we had sex on the second date ( and she initiated it before I had time to even sit down in her living room; actually she kissed me then unzipped my pants…you can guess the rest… ) I said spontaneously with a big smile; ” well… I am irresistible, what else could you have done?”

    I wish I was that smooth all the time but I am not… like a juggling act I do not “master”, I do drop the ball/plate/whatever a bit too often.


  16. @Sentient

    I just wanted to say a quick thank you for your time and help (I have tried leaving other messages, but I think they’ve got stuck in moderation because I’ve been dragging the replies too far off the topic of conversation).

    I’ll try and keep this brief, but I’ve tracked down the videos and websites you recomended, and I’m currently watching and commiting to memory the key points.

    I’m starting to put all of this into practise, and I’m going to post back and let you know how I get on.


  17. Kudos to this guy, i wish I had this tight a game.


  18. @Benson well done. The biggest shit test I batted before banging what has since become one of my plates was when she showed me the outreach on OKC I sent to her friend…it was the same opener I used on the plate. She asked me in an accusing way: “So?…You’re here now, you gotta be fast.”

    She kept trying to get me to cave in. I just laughed it off. I banged her that night and every few weeks for the last 5 months.

    I’ve had a few of these blow up in my face


  19. on October 20, 2015 at 8:07 pm Subarctic Hillbilly

    Yes, game is the cure for modern ills. Whenever I find myself sad and regretful that I discovered these hard truths in middle age, I remember to be grateful that I have come upon them at all.

    My heart breaks for my often willfully unaware friends. And yet I do not allow their resentments to diminish the sexy fun and abundance of my life. In fact, had I not suffered, how could I appreciate this joy?

    Montaigne talks about two philosophers, Democritus and Heraclitus, the first of whom, finding the human condition vain and ridiculous, goes about with a sneer and a jeer. The second, commiserating with that same condition, instead goes about with a tear. I am of the Heraclitean persuasion, and when someone gets something right, it cheers me.

    So I salute you, Benson. Well done.


  20. Betas tend to project what they themselves want to hear from women — a steady stream of sappy feelings and vows of love for the beta — onto women as something they believe women wish to hear from men

    EVERY man, alpha or beta, wants to hear that from women. A lot of betas who try to act alpha-aloof come across instead as omega-outcast. So an obvious strategy for differentiating ourselves is to offer a superior level of comfort. Which in the age of Tinder cynicism and rape-culture hysteria, is quietly becoming more effective.


  21. on October 21, 2015 at 6:05 am gunslingergregi

    me looking forward to seeing you
    chick me too i miss u soooooooooooo
    chick sooooooooooooooooooooooo

    is that the real secret to relationships time apart for her to make you a god or totally forget about you


  22. on October 21, 2015 at 6:13 am gunslingergregi

    me thnk luz
    me i be thinking bout doing freaky shit with you
    chick lol sweet but we will be doing some freaky shit when you get here
    me miss having you around the most love ya sleeping in bed with you

    no further convo rofl

    its like all they want me for is fuckin
    channels naked gun “im not a piece of meat jane”
    plus forgot to tell her she aint allowed to swear grrr


    • on October 21, 2015 at 6:17 am gunslingergregi

      i am having some serious off the wall fantasies about what i will do when get back with her
      uhh sicko shit


  23. Great post.

    Even if you’re an experienced campaigner of the crimson arts, your last vestiges of linear, logical thought can rear their ugly head with certain types of women. It’s a form of beta backsliding.

    It’s usually only triggered by *very* specific girls, girls who take you on logical tangents and lull you into a false sense of believing you can have an extended logical discussion with them.

    Don’t be tempted. It will end badly.


  24. You’ve fucked her already and she’s still hanging out with you. Would showing a sensitive side do any harm here? Do we need to be on guard all of the time? Is it really that easy to fuck up from here?

    Truth be told my feelings on women are conflicted and sometimes I do care. I wouldn’t want to be always aloof because I can’t live like that. I’m a surly cunt in general and women are my escape from the grizzly shit.

    It feels like if everyone on the planet were to take this blog at face value then one day even friendly conversation between lovers would be conducted at gunpoint.


    • It’s all calibration UKIP… You can be beta but from an Alpha frame and she will love it. The problem though most guys have is they go full tilt beta fuzzy wuzzy cuddly boy once they start getting it regular and this slowly turns her off. So be 90% alpha and 10% beta and keep the beta surprising.

      best thing you can do though is avoid oneitis and keep seeing other girls. That will keep you sharp.


    • You’ve fucked her already and she’s still hanging out with you. Would showing a sensitive side do any harm here? Do we need to be on guard all of the time? Is it really that easy to fuck up from here?

      Context is everything. There are times when being a witty asshole is less than ideal, but this wasn’t one of those instances.

      Judging by her reaction, she was thoroughly satisfied with my answer. Had I leveled with her and let my soft side show, things would have probably gone differently. I’ve learned that the hard way.


  25. Reblogged this on XWorkx.


  26. Girl seems slightly more concerned about the argument than anything else, sure they didn’t just go to Japan and both be forcibly penetrated by tentacles, etc.? That might be more thematically relevant, so y’know.