Creating An Emotional Connection With Women

Over at Sebastian Flyte’s crisply written blog Elysium Revisited, I was tooling around and read a pretty good post about bringing a girl into deep rapport through the use of emotionally charged questions. An experiment was set up to discover how long it would take to build a romantic connection with someone. One group asked their partners a bunch of intimacy-building questions, while the control group asked their partners typically lame questions of the sort the average man without game might ask, such as “Where are you from?”.

Here are a few examples of the intimacy-building questions the first group asked:

Before making a telephone call, do you ever rehearse what you are going to say? Why?

When did you last sing to yourself? To someone else?

If you could wake up tomorrow having gained any one quality or ability, what would it be?

If you knew that in one year you would die suddenly, would you change anything about the way you are living now? Why?

What roles do love and affection play in your life?

What, if anything, is too serious to be joked about?

The questions were designed to be asked in a certain order, such that the tamer questions were asked first and the more intense questions asked later, the idea being that your partner would feel more comfortable answering the later serious questions if you loosened her up first with relatively benign questions. This “graduated verbal compliance” is similar to how kino progresses — from light, almost imperceptible touches on the forearm, to a hand on her thigh, and then to cheek to cheek contact when you whisper something in her ear.

The results of the experiment were unsurprising to anyone who has accepted the Good Word of Game into his life — the group asking the emotionally supercharged questions did not want to part company while the control group using Conor Friedersdorf-style respectful beta questions failed to ignite a romantic spark.

One of the laments I hear a lot from guys is “I can’t think of anything to say with a girl!”. It’s true; sometimes your brain will lock up and you’ll sit there blankly, desperately clawing your mind for any nuggets of insight to jumpstart the conversation with the girl. Unfortunately, once you’re aware of your struggle to say something fresh, your ability to move the conversation along plummets. It’s like the baseball player who suddenly thinks too hard about the mechanics of his throw and winds up getting the yips, throwing the ball into the dirt or way off-target. This is why I have a problem with PUAs who stress “natural game” at the expense of memorizing routines or one-liners. The truth is that having a few openers, negs, qualifiers, and deep rapport questions committed to memory will help any man hone his seduction skills. In fact, I used a few of the rapport questions from Sebastian’s post some months ago with a couple girls I dated, and they worked exactly as predicted.

If you’re really daring, you can try “serial killer game” deep rapport questions on your target, which amounts to hinting that you have a shady, violent past. And as we all know, quality (read: hot) chicks dig shady, violence-prone men.

YOU: Would you stay with a man you deeply loved if he confessed that he once did something very bad to another man who deserved it?

HER: It would depend on what he did.

YOU: Would you still love him if he asked you to help him dispose of the body?

HER: Um…

YOU: With a chainsaw?

HER: Kiss me!





Comments


  1. Solid post.

    I am not really too sure about this question:

    “What, if anything, is too serious to be joked about?”

    I see it bringing rapport, but I also see the answers bringing out negative, asexual feelings. Where as the others are positively slanted.

    In regards to “serial killer game”:

    It is more commonly referred to as “The G Manifesto”.

    I almost always hint at a criminal past or pseudo-criminal past (well, because my past was criminal) with exceptional girls.

    It is a very advanced technique that shouldn’t be used by the novice.

    Really it should only be used when you have mastered every other style and technique out there.

    It can also backfire horribly on everyday regular girl, and should never be used on them.

    However, on young, beautiful, rich American girls, it can deliver phenomenal results.

    – MPM

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  2. The Black Romans — BBC Article

    Was Septimius Severus the 1st Black man to rule England?

    Did you know that Black and Asian people first came to the North East in Roman times? Or that England was once ruled by a Libyan? These and many more historical facts were revealed as part of BBC Black History Month.

    Early Black History

    Emperor Septimius Severus wasn’t the only Black Roman in Britain. There were other African officers, soldiers … stationed on and around Hadrian’s Wall in the 3rd century.

    http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-black-romans/

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  3. The Cube, a series of pop-psych intimacy building questions, gets mentioned her efrom time to time. I know of a variation on this, the River. The only time I ever heard this was in 1989. So it’s old, but probably unknown by girls who were toddlers or unborn in ’89. As follows:

    Mike and Lisa are in love. But a river separates them. Mike is not permitted to cross the river, but Lisa is.

    There is only one way to cross the river, and that’s on a barge that is owned by Bill. And Bill, seeing how important it is for Lisa to cross this river, asks her for double the normal fare. She doesn’t have that much money, but a stranger named Steve offers to pay the difference if Lisa agrees to sleep with him.

    Lisa is not attracted to Steve, but does sleep with him, and Steve pays Bill for Lisa’s fare markup. Lisa crosses the river and is happily reunited with Mike.

    Mike’s friend Frank finds out abut this, tells Mike, who is angry and breaks up with Lisa.

    The question: rank these five people in order from best to worst.

    Results in my next comment.

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  4. The River results. Your ranking of these five people shows your values, what you consider most important, to least important.
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    Mike = morality
    Lisa = love
    Bill = business
    Steve = sex
    Frank = friendship

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  5. Observation/question: Reviewing my beta-friend-zone failures of late, and comparing them to successes of a while back, it seems to me one of the dynamics is whether I’m letting her spill some stuff she wants to download (beta-city) vs. me probing and pursuing my own line of curiosity (I said probe). Thoughts? Is it a control dynamic? A leader thing? A I-don’t-care-what-you-want-I-know-what-you-want-let-me-do-it thing? A combo? Useless question?

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  6. This is really basic surface level connection building stuff. It’s definitely not going to get a quality girl to fall in love with you, but it might make an insecure slut comfortable enough with you to sleep with you.

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  7. Self-disclosure is a major working point for me. But I find to be truly effective, both parties have to engage in it, even if you’re just tossing up bullshit. Making someone feel special because you’re telling them something they would consider private and rarely shared, so they share back something of equal or greater value/privacy to them and bonding occurs.

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  8. I’ve been around a while, and haven’t heard of The River.
    Good one, PA

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  9. Game in BK, that’s old news. The Romans, like most Mediterranean people, weren’t hung up on race, although they did state a preference for Blond haired people and disdained peoples from below Egypt; then again, they also disdained people from above the Danube (i.e. Germans, Rus, and Scandinavians).

    And claiming these gusy were “black” is a stretch; of African descent is better, but most of upper Africa did nto consider themselvbes black and disdained darker skin. The Egyptians were very proud that they vanguished the darker Nubian Empire.

    That said, the Romans were a cosmopolitan people, and by the time of the 3rd-4th Emperor really didn’t care where you came from, so long as you were 1) Roman or 2) faithful to Roman ways and civilized, i.e. not a barbarian (German/Pict/etc.). Pay your taxes, serve in the army, and you could fuck anyone.

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  10. on July 29, 2009 at 1:15 pm Kick a Bitch

    all in all, this is just a continuation of the “connect with her emotions theme”. because women are so driven by emotion and imagery, anything that reaches them on this level is pure gold. and by gold i mean sloppy wet snappy nappy…

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  11. -Lurker-

    I don’t really care one way or the other.
    I just got sick and tired of reading how anglo saxon peoples are “nice”

    Anglo Saxons killed hundreds of millions of humans throughout the ages in countless wars. They tried to enslave or destroy the entire continent of Africa just because they could.

    I’m am not defending the Roman empire or slavery- I am just saying Anglo Saxon’s are as barbaric as an other.

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  12. Another intimacy-building tool. The Four Questions. Ask a girl these questions:

    1) What is your favorite color? [she names one]. Tell me three adjectives that you associate with this color.

    2) What is your favorite animal? [she names one]. Tell me three adjectives that you associate with this animal.

    3) What is your favorite type of body of water? [she says lake, ocean, hot tub, whatever]. Tell me three adjectives that you associate with this body of water.

    4) You are alone in an empty room. Tell me three adjectives that describe the way you feel.

    Results to her responses:
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    The first resposne (fav. color, animal, water) is unimportant. What counts is the three adjectives she gives for each question:

    1) Color question: describes the way you see yourself
    2) Animal question: describes the way others see you
    3) Water question: describes your sexuality
    4) Empty Room: describes your afterlife

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  13. Game in BK,

    “I just got sick and tired of reading how anglo saxon peoples are “nice””
    —Dude, what are you talking about? First, the article is about the Romans, not Anglo Saxons; second, the arguments here are about stating that NAMs are NOT any better than Anglo Saxons; blacks, American Indians, hispanics, heck, everyone has engaged in bloody wars, murdered, and been greedy. What we object to here is the sudden turn in opinion (re: over the last 40 years) that somehow what white people do is somehow worse than what others have done.

    Your article is irrelevant.

    Going forward, I’ll assume you’re calling all whites anglo saxons.

    “Anglo Saxons killed hundreds of millions of humans throughout the ages in countless wars.”
    —As have every other racial/ethnic group you can name. No better, no worse.

    “They tried to enslave or destroy the entire continent of Africa just because they could.”
    —um, no.

    Slavery and colonization has existed since the beginning of time, and has existed for profit. Blacks enslaved and colonized, whties did, reds did, browns did, yellows did.

    But not “because they coud.” For proft. There’s a reason Alaska was little colonized/civilized before oil was discovered; it wasn’t worth it.

    Blacks taking slavery and colonization personally is at the root of much hysteria amongst black apologists. But taking it personally is a huge mistake.

    “I’m am not defending the Roman empire or slavery- I am just saying Anglo Saxon’s are as barbaric as an other.”
    —We agree there. Of course, I say the reverse: that non-whites are just as barbaric. And both sides have actually done good things as well.

    I think you invented a straw man for this board.

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  14. -lurker-

    If you consider the Germans and the English to be Anglo Saxon- then i do believe those two groups have killed more people than any other group in the history of mankind.

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  15. PA: The River reminds me of this. The “interpretations” are amusing.

    Suppose it might be possible to use it as a variation:
    Little John: friendship/love
    Robin Hood: morality
    The Sheriff: business?
    Maid Marion: sex

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  16. @Bhetti:

    Yeah, all the interpretations are pretty bad (regarding men and women).

    Although your interpretation (with each character symbolizing something) is pretty accurate in this context:
    Robin Hood, Little John, Maid Marion, The Sheriff
    You are a moralist with conventional ideas, which some people would call old-fashioned.

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  17. I think what could work is one of those questions as an opener, and from there a natural sort of exchange based on the girl’s response. Otherwise, it comes across as overtly disingenuous (not that most game isn’t), but mainly too contrived in an awkward way. It sounds like it might play out well in a rom-com though.

    @a:

    My ex was in a long-term relationship prior to ours, and his girlfriend wanted him to take her name for “equality”‘s sake. I don’t know how that makes things more equal, but she was a Type A bitch.

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  18. Oh, and re: serial killer.

    I don’t think something as far as implying you were a killer would be effective, since I wouldn’t want to be left alone with the guy. The person I’m currently seeing tells me that he implies he used to do a lot of drugs because it builds intrigue, in spite of it not being true. When I went to help him move however, I found some court documents for things like vandalism, petty theft, etc. and I was surprisingly more unfazed than I should have been.

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  19. Game in BK:

    “If you consider the Germans and the English to be Anglo Saxon- then i do believe those two groups have killed more people than any other group in the history of mankind.”

    —Nope. The Russians and Chinese (separately) have killed more in this century alone. The Chinese and russians over the centuries are in the billions.

    As have the Romans, if you add up the numbers over from 700 BC -400 AD.

    And if all American Indians are grouped together—remember, you’re being pretty broad here yourself—they killed more.

    Let’s not forget the Persians, Jews, and Egyptians. And Japanese. And Indians.

    And, quite frankly, magnitude is only increased for the former groups due to technology. If other empires had access to the industrial strength of the Chinese and Russians in the 20th Century, they would have definitely gladly killed more.

    Nope, the Anglo-Saxons aren’t even in the top 10.

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  20. edit: I meant the Russiands and Chinese killed more in the 20th century, not this century.

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  21. For those interested in Game :

    These questions to build rapport – are they more for the Comfort phase of Mystery Method (C1-C3), or the Seduction Phase (S1-S3)?

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  22. on July 29, 2009 at 2:14 pm Basil Ransom

    Damn, solid post. My rapport game has always been weak – attraction can come pretty quick – Good looks + vibe, but girls often don’t come back. Really gotta memorize some of this material.

    None of the rapport stuff I’ve read in the community stuck, it all seems retarded. This stuff seems legit.

    Assanova: Agreed. It’s not so much a question of routines though. It’s about the guy. The guy who can have a fun, fluid interaction with a girl without routines will win out over the robot with or without routines. But the natural might forget some integral ingredients, leading to a weak or failed seduction.

    In picking up girls, you’re running into the same scenario over and over. One of my personal issues is my weak rapport. Probably ’cause girls are usually generic – the only time I feel a connection is when the girl is unusual in some respect.

    I’ve met up with some guys from a local lair. They were normal enough, but it just seemed like they never get laid. They just don’t have any edge.

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  23. on July 29, 2009 at 2:21 pm ironrailsironweights

    If you could wake up tomorrow having gained any one quality or ability, what would it be?

    “Letting the hideous pedophilic Bald Eagle grow back into a GNP.”

    Peter

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  24. “serial killer game”

    That explains my Dexter obession.

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  25. Re ‘a’ who cited the idiot who took his wifes name:One funny line in the article: The beta says he wears a miniature woman ,that he carved,around his neck(or is it tied to his dick? whatever). His wife,he says,”wears a miniature man.” Indeed…

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  26. Game in BK:

    Septimius Severus? Black? Chyeah, right. Looks like a black guy: not!

    Philip the Arab was an Arab, and Maximinus Thrax was a Thracian and Diocletian was an Albanian/Illyrian, but Septimius Severus was Italian/Berber. Berbers are white people. This Leonard Jeffries crap is total science fiction. Romans were arguably a lot more race conscious than modern Europeans. For example: there were many Jew, Gaul (basically polack) and Greek jokes. I suspect most of the Black Africans who made it to the Empire were Ethiopians, since that’s what they were generally called. And no, there were not very many of them in the Empire. If there were, you’d see more black people in Europe: duh.

    I still think “routines” are weak sauce. It’s a great way to fascinate dim bulb emotional narcissists I’d rather never talk to (which is admittedly a larger set of women than the ones I do want to talk to). I’d rather make them laugh; it’s a better qualifier, and I’ll be less likely to hate myself in the morning if she laughs at my jokes than if she wants to “build intimacy.” Still, if you’re into this sort of thing, I have this little new age “book of questions” you can find using google. It’s pretty good.

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  27. rapport building is essential and doesn’t get nearly the face-time as other arts of pick-up. perhaps i’m attached to it because it’s my strong-suit compared to other facets of Game.

    if you do it correctly you’ll start to hear phrases like “i feel like i’ve known you for years” and shit like that.

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  28. Your knowledge of the female psyche officially freaks me out now. Emotional. This does come from a girl but spot on. We need the Conors of the world knowing and using this, to combat those who would use of it for evil.

    I can see it now: ch the anti-hero all the grrls tingle for. Conor is thrown into a pit of radioactive testosterone. Suddenly equipped with his newfound superpowers, he sets out to rescue women from the underground world of PUAs who use their powers for evil under the tutelage of Obsidian (hey, we need diversity here) whose direction has ulterior motives unknown to Conor.

    Conor’s motivated by the hope of redeeming one woman, his former love who he found between a rock and a hard place. He is sure it was not her fault, she was seduced evilly and regrets her actions. Perhaps drugs were involved.

    But soon, as Conor immerses himself in this underground world, he realises that there is much greater darkness than he and his fellow PUAS. The seductive pull of it threatens to overturn all that he is and all that he knew, yes he understands him all too well…

    Soon, he realises that the only person that needs rescuing is himself.

    “Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”
    ~ Friedrich Nietzsche

    White Knight: The Poison of Poon.
    Coming Soon to a cinema near you.

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  29. Anglo Saxons killed hundreds of millions of humans throughout the ages in countless wars. They tried to enslave or destroy the entire continent of Africa just because they could.

    What? The original market for African slaves was to work in Spanish and Portuguese colonies. They’re not Anglo-Saxon.

    The non-Anglo-Saxon empire in Africa (French + Belgian + Portuguese colonies) was bigger than the British one.

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  30. And Europeans didn’t enslave Africans “just because they could” – they did so because African labor was profitable. You don’t spend that kind of money to transport people across the Atlantic and then force them to work just for the hell of it.

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  31. rapport building is definitely a part of my game that isnt very strong, mostly because i just simply forget sometimes to add it in. definitely need to start applying it more

    can any of you give some advice on ways to make sure during rapport building that the woman doesnt start putting you in the LJBF or ‘friend zone’ category?

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  32. Dreamer:

    Those pre-rehearsed pick-up things seem weird, but I think the key is to make it seem natural.

    This seems to be the problem :

    Probably ’cause girls are usually generic – the only time I feel a connection is when the girl is unusual in some respect.
    — Basil Ransom

    In essence, an emotional connection has to be…
    well, faked.

    Reminds me of the Apocalypse Opener/Shock & Awe, where a good part of it is immediately communicating to a woman that he finds her hot. Reportedly difficult to make it work if it’s not true.

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  33. I bet you don’t even have a girlfriend. You are so pathetic.

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  34. How about this little exchange from The Thomas Crown Affair:

    Crown: Hmm. Can I ply you with anything else? Cheese tray?

    Banning: Would you like a– Would you like a deal? Make it easy on yourself. We’ll just get more warrant searches. Mess up your carpeting.

    Crown: May l– May I ask you a very personal question?

    Banning: Why not?

    Crown: Would you like another hit of espresso?

    Banning: Would you like another– Like another hit of espresso? That’s the very personal question?

    Crown: That’s as good as it gets.

    Banning: Oh. Excuse me. -May I ask you a very personal question?

    Crown: Oh, sure. By all means.

    Banning: Do you really think I’m going to sleep with a man I’m investigating, hmm?

    Crown: Is that the question?

    Banning: Yes, that’s it.

    Crown: Why should I answer your question when you didn’t commit to my espresso?

    Banning: All right. I’ll seriously commit to your espresso.

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  35. on July 29, 2009 at 3:33 pm Basil Ransom

    “can any of you give some advice on ways to make sure during rapport building that the woman doesnt start putting you in the LJBF or ‘friend zone’ category?”

    Guaranteed not to happen if you’re touching her. Start the touching in the attraction phase, and continue with it into the rapport phase. Strong eye contact and body language alone is usually sufficient, provided she was attracted beforehand.

    Bhetti, re apocalypse: reminds me of the times I’ve said “hey I think you’re cute” opener, and start stammering ’cause a closer look reveals the opposite.

    David X is awesome. Saw a video of him, and said, yes, he is a man. Style, Mystery, Mehow et al may get laid and all, but they sure ain’t role models.

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  36. Lupo, I think the Romans did make jokes, but after your civilization proved itself civilized, you were basically part of the Empire or an ally, color notwithstanding. The Gauls were the classic uncivilized brutes during the Republic, but later were just part of the gang. Sort of likes jokes about Southerners, Yankees, Californias, people from the upper midwest today—we still make jokes, but its all in the family.

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  37. by the end he definitely kisses her, it just doesn’t show it.

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  38. Before making a telephone call, do you ever rehearse what you are going to say? Why?

    When did you last sing to yourself? To someone else?

    If you could wake up tomorrow having gained any one quality or ability, what would it be?

    If you knew that in one year you would die suddenly, would you change anything about the way you are living now? Why?

    What roles do love and affection play in your life?

    What, if anything, is too serious to be joked about?

    The point of this post hasn’t evaded me, but I remember all of these except the one about affection appearing in that popular 1987 book The Book of Questions by one Dr Stock. Apologies, if you and SF are aware of this.

    By the way, you calling someone else’s a “crisply written blog” is tantamount to Neil Peart praising someone’s drumming.

    Lash

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  39. Is Mehow’s secret to act so flaming gay that the women not only lower their guards but respond to the ego-boosting challenge of trying to convert him?

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  40. re serial killer:

    I remember having a similar conversation with someone a year ago.

    Me: But he said he killed someone.
    Her: So? It doesn’t mean he’s a bad person!
    Me: HE. Killed. Someone.
    Her: It was self defense!

    dayumm….

    CH exposes yet another ugly truth.

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  41. I’m curious, what do you think of guys like David X who only uses two rules: 1)Who cares what the girl is thinking, and 2)You are the most important person in the relationship. Here’s an excerpt from his guide:

    “Honesty is the ‘True North Principle’ of seduction and seems to me to be the hardest one to teach. People just go, “Honesty. Ok, got it… Next!” and then they want to hear the next pickup line or strategy. They don’t work at
    learning how to integrate honesty into their lives. But the South Pole and the North Pole don’t change, and
    neither do the main principles: “Who cares what she thinks” and “I am the most important person in this
    relationship.” If you can learn those two rules, you’ve got it made and you will never need any outside help again.
    You will finally know exactly what to say to them and how to act with them. They love me because I’m honest.
    I’m more honest with them than most of you will ever be.”

    “Focus on what you want, and be honest with yourself. If I see a woman and I think, “I’d really like to fuck her on
    the hood of my car”, that’s all I’m thinking about. I’m a simple man. If you’re shy it’s because you are thinking
    too much. Just look at these big, dumb jocks and see how they pick up women. They may be dumb-asses, but
    they’re keeping it simple.”

    “If you don’t have the courage to be honest with yourself and with women, then you are a dingleberry. You know
    what a dingleberry is? It’s that little piece of shit that sticks to the hair of your ass. A dingleberry is so close to the
    pussy but never makes it all the way to the front. So if you want to be a dingleberry for the rest of your life and
    make excuses for why you can’t get women, continue. But if you decide to take a fuckin’ chance and be honest,
    you won’t believe the transformation in the way women will look at you.”

    Keep in mind that this is the guy that Mystery and company goes to for help and has slept with more women that all of those guys. He doesn’t rely on routines. Thoughts?

    And then there is Tyler Durden of Real Social Dynamics (he’s in “The Game”), who use to use routines and tactics, and it looks like he has come to the a similar conclusion. Here’s an excerpt from his latest newsletter:

    “I feel embarassed of my past work, even though I know its good. Guys tell me they like it, and I’m like, “Damn dude, you read that?! That thing is way too dense. Just be cool and escalate.””

    “Cool guys get laid. If you’re not a cool guy, you probably
    won’t get laid very much. It’s not by being alpha or being
    sexual or having rapport or anything else. Those are just
    things that you add into the mix to do even better.

    Like, every weekend I meet guys who are nerds but trying to use this stuff, and it just makes them come off even weirder. I could make a tape of guys from the community trying to implement the tech they learn – even the most simple stuff like “alpha body language” or “sexual state” (let alone my sh!t), and sell it as a prime time comedy special”

    To me it seems as though the gurus are gravitating towards the more natural stuff. Even in Mystery’s latest guide “Revelations”, he has moved away from the routines and more towards the natural stuff (Lovedrop says “Who cares what Mystery is saying”). I agree with David X when he says that by relying on routines, you are just making things more difficult for yourself.

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  42. joe i thought the same shit. theres another video where he does some handshake routine. and i knew i would’nt be able to pull it off since it looked so gay. (the way he played it out)

    it seems like he has the whole “strauss syndrome.” where you go under the radar.

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  43. why defend the Germans and the British?

    Combined both World Wars claimed 100m lives.

    How many Africans, Asian, and Middle Eastern peoples died because of the British empires rule?

    Multiple Historians have claimed:
    “The British deliberately adopted policies that caused as many as 29 million Indians to starve to death in the late 19th century”

    What of the mess the British caused when they arbitrarily created nations with the stroke of a pen, rather than using the already established tribal territories that existed before the British controlled the Middle East and Africa?

    anglo saxon rule- it was no better and no worse than any other empire’s rule. plenty of evil to be found everywhere.

    so – whatever.

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  44. collegeboy, don’t be so naive. They cut out all of their failed attempts. I know this because I was contacted by a company to do a video and they told me that they would cut out all of my failed attempts. And besides, getting a make-out is incredibly easy if you’re a decent guy. Just watch The PUA reality show to see that.

    What I find interesting, is that at the end of season two, in order to get laid, those guys had to have a party at their mansion (with personal bedrooms in it and the women already invited; a huge dhv/crutch, I might add). The end of that show exposes the truth about routines: they might get you a phone number and/or a make-out, but they don’t get you laid. None of those guys were able to take those girls home, and from what I could see, none of those guys got a solid date from any of those phone numbers that they got.

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  45. @bhetti- “a pit of radioactive testosterone”, eh? Scary cool. Sort of like a “Toxic Avenger” scenario for pickup – unleashing alpha male behaviors on unsuspecting females in metropolises everywhere.

    I think some of the other commenters have it right, that this has to be sequenced correctly after attraction. You wouldn’t want to dive into deep emotional conversations before there was pretty strong mutual interest and attraction, and unless the context was right and the conversation flowed naturally. (the blog excerpt seems to be from a psychological study – se[arated from reality, like a butterfly pinned to a collector’s board.)

    the key for this kind of material is for it to flow naturally and in context – and to be directed by the man, not the woman. otherwise, you run the risk of being played for an LJBF emotional tampon.

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  46. @Assanova
    David X seems to have good advice. Great, actually. Nothing better than a man who thinks of his importance and doesn’t let a woman get in the way. I think women are attracted to men who put themselves first, who think for themselves, and who stick to their own path.

    Actually, I think it’s one of his maxims or whatever that you should have your own mission. And the woman will fall into that however she may.

    There’s one thing, though – making yourself the center doesn’t mean being a selfish prick 100% of the time or acting like a barbarian. There are key moments to have an emotional connection, surprise her with roses, sweep her off her feet… remind her that she is #1 with you emotionally. These things make her feel valued to you, and lucky to have your attention.

    The idea it seems, by David X, is that as a man you have a lot to give and should value your time and attention.

    Those pre-rehearsed pick-up things seem weird, but I think the key is to make it seem natural. Fuse it into your own personality so you’re not some hopeless geek trying someone’s method. Even geeks can make original game if they figure out who they are first.

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  47. Two tricks I use for relationship/regular-fuck-buddy game:

    1. Put a round under the pillow she is going to use every once in a while and let her find it.

    2. Forward her news articles about un-solved murders.

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  48. on July 29, 2009 at 4:42 pm mandy been here a while

    Does co-hosting a Barbie-and-Ken theme party for her 29th birthday create and emotional connection or is is selfemasculation?

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  49. Insightful of course, but what about girls like me whose specialty is never answering deep personal questions so we can stay mysterious? Like, I”ll deflect questions that reveal my personality either by giving a silly joke answer or saying I don’t know and asking him more about why he asks, what he thinks etc. I prefer to make the guy work to figure me out by observing over time – it keeps the boys coming back and obsessively trying to figure me out ya know? Just some ideas… I don’t talk to anyone about such deep personal stuff anyway, one of the reasons for my secret blog hehe

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  50. Oops, I hope I don’t come across conceited or haughty. I am just saying that for what I know of girl game, being mysterious yet friendly and elusive but attainable is what’s supposed to get a guy to stay in pursuit, even get him obsessed. And maybe I am a little calculating about it, but I have successfully avoided answering rapport questions like this even to proposal stage. I just act like the questions are jokes or kind of weird – like who thinks of that stuff type of questions (getting a blank distracted look works real well)

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  51. @Assanova, “None of those guys were able to take those girls home, and from what I could see, none of those guys got a solid date from any of those phone numbers that they got.”

    That seemed to be the impression I got from reading the Game, the lack of transition game. Even Style had to learn how to get more than a phone #.

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  52. assanova,

    None of those guys were able to take those girls home, and from what I could see, none of those guys got a solid date from any of those phone numbers that they got

    good point about ‘the pickup artist’, but remember that these guys weren’t even AFCs. they were straight omegas; mostly virgins with a few that had never even kissed a girl.

    for a guy who has never had any success with women, seeing these little tricks work might be the thing that propels him to get his inner game together.

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  53. on July 29, 2009 at 5:25 pm Sebastian Flyte

    The important point is that even the tamer questions were interesting, even a little controversial, and gave emotional value.

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  54. on July 29, 2009 at 6:10 pm Dave from Hawaii

    lsb,

    I am just saying that for what I know of girl gamebeing mysterious yet friendly and elusive but attainable is what’s supposed to get a guy to stay in pursuit, even get him obsessed.

    You’re over thinking this one a little bit. The kind of guy that get’s “obsessed” will be giving off the “beta” vibe (neediness or one-itis) that would eventually kill your attraction to him.

    Conversely, a guy you are really attracted to, has options. Being too mysterious and elusive would mean he would just write you off as too much hassle to bother when there are easier available options.

    But most importantly, when it come’s to “Girl Game,” there is only so much you can control – no amount of “game” will help you if your 300 lbs. or have a hideous face.

    “Girl Game” is essentially looking young, in-shape, tastefully dressed, fertile, and projecting a pleasant, easy-going demeanor.

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  55. Every one of those questions would make a normal person feel a bit self-conscious, and would guarantee that they’d think before answering because saying the wrong thing would make them look bad.

    Nobody feels this way when asked, “So, where are you from Mindy?” or “What do you do for a living?”, or “Where did you go to school?”, or “Whats your favorite X or Y?”

    Those questions, by their nature, would make someone want to have an impressive answer that would not reflect badly upon them. They’d really -concentrate- for a few moments to craft a correct response, and would become self-concious during the process, and the bitch shields come down if one can make them feel self-conscious.

    Game really is the open usage of psychology in interpersonal relations during daily life. I know many will say this kind of wordsmithing is “dishonest” or even “unfair”, but girls get truly dishonest and unfair advice from reading Cosmo every week, and televison and newsmedia have men practically framed in an unfair light from the second they step out of their garage every morning to face the world. Game just re-evens the playing field just a tad.

    He is giving the guys another gemstone here for free. I hope they appreciate it.

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  56. assanova i know all pua’s or this one in particuar isn’t getting laid set after set. evey guy fails, thats just the nature of the game.hell even mystery gets blown out.

    i posted the video because mehow was building a connection with the girl. did he get laid? who knows…but you can see it in her body language and that glim in her eyes.

    connection established.

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  57. Dave from Hawaii, thanks for the thoughts. Mmm… I should have explained more. For me, girl game = marriage to the most alphaish good provider possible. #1 is definitely looks, whether a girl wants marriage or less that’s the majority of her game. But there are millions and millions of hot, young, sexy women out there. And of that, there are a lot less women who are sweet, pleasant, and fully feminine. My opinion is that being quieter and a less chatty actually makes a girl seem more feminine and sweet. Plus, many girls if they answered truthfully some of those questions, the more sinister, slutty or damaged goods aspects of their personalities would come out. The trick is definitely to not seem like you are being mysterious when you really are. Its like seeming like you are talking a lot without really revealing anything. The girls I know who do this are perceived as really sweet and simple. So she stands out among all the physically hot, but bitchy/sarcastic/gossipy/chattermouth girls. Along with the girls who are t

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  58. on July 29, 2009 at 6:24 pm Dave from Hawaii

    And of that, there are a lot less women who are sweet, pleasant, and fully feminine. My opinion is that being quieter and a less chatty actually makes a girl seem more feminine and sweet.

    My bad…you get it already. Stick with that and you should be able to eventually find your alpha provider.

    Just remember that if/when you do, make sure he feels like providing for you continues to be worth it long after the honeymoon is over.

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  59. Oops got cut off! I think girls who seem sweet and simple also stand out from those girls who are way too nice – these are the girls who start acting like wifey to a guy too soon. You have to admit the hottest girl ever, if she is way too needy and constantly wanting to spend time with a guy and stuff, will be a turn off. Even if she is really sweet about it, most guys want their freedom and to not be blamed for not loving her as much as she loves him.

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  60. About guys being obsessed, smart girls can figure out when a guy is trying to play it cool. It comes out when he asks you out regularly, when he keeps on making a move, when he”s basically around for the long term. A guy can be an aggressive pursuer but not seem beta. He just seems like a go getter who likes to win things that are hard to win, but very very valuable. Again, what I am talking about with girl game only works to nake a girl stand out from her peers at her level of looks. And its more about not seeming like a drama queen girl who loves to go on and on about all her insights and opinions and thoughts…

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  61. Thanks Dave from Hawaii. So true that the guy should feel like providing and being the leader of his kingdom (me) is worth it in the long run. I wrote a post about how women can inspire more alpha behavior. Basically we women need to do our part too to be feminine, stay attractive, treat our men well and like the leaders. Its great how you and other guys here talk about improving your relationships by becoming more alpha and keeping you women in line. It would be even better if more women too that attitude and looked at how to be more feminine because that also brings out the alpha in men. It really should come from both sides, no?

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  62. Game in BK

    Anglo Saxons killed hundreds of millions of humans throughout the ages in countless wars.

    No they haven’t.

    They have been world dominant however. More so than any other people in the history of the world.

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  63. on July 29, 2009 at 6:47 pm Dave from Hawaii

    Absolutely.

    Yin & Yang…the symmetry of the male and female complimenting each other to form a single unit.

    Cultural feminism has basically brainwashed men to act like women and women to act like men…with disharmony, broken hearts and broken homes and an epidemic of social pathologies as the results.

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  64. @lovelysexybeauty:

    “He just seems like a go getter who likes to win things that are hard to win, but very very valuable. Again, what I am talking about with girl game only works to nake a girl stand out from her peers at her level of looks. And its more about not seeming like a drama queen girl who loves to go on and on about all her insights and opinions and thoughts…”
    QFT.

    “It would be even better if more women too that attitude and looked at how to be more feminine because that also brings out the alpha in men. It really should come from both sides, no?”
    QFT.

    Although I’m especially feminine, without even noticing it, around my boyfriend. Everything about our relationship is so natural, I see people on here talking about how they have to structure this to get that to work, etc. etc.
    I mean, maybe the hamster is running five thousand miles an hour in his head, but it just seems so natural…

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  65. Its great how you and other guys here talk about improving your relationships by becoming more alpha and keeping you women in line.

    What’s interesting to me that until about a decade ago when Southern Baptists went PC, they too advocated the male-strength model of keeping a woman happy. It was Bible-based, not Game based like it’s here, but the essential elements I think were similar enough.

    For this reason and others, Southern Baptists were villified in the media as backwards rednecks. Uncool.

    In 1997, the Promise Keepers tried a different tack. Also Bible-based male leadership, but beta to the extreme. They assumed man’s depravity (not keeping his “promises,” hence the movement’s name) and woman’s tender victimhood. Most memorably, they tied to win the media over by sucking up to NOW. The movement, despite gathering close to a million men on the DC Mall, failed.

    Now, PUA-driven Game seems to have taken the lead in getting men in relationships a spine with their women. Indeed, Game is better known for its short-term pickup orientation, but its principles are now understood and practived by married guys and guys in LTRs.

    What’s different about Game (vs. Southern Baptists or Promise Keepers) is that despite media assaults, Game is cool.

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  66. @PA:

    “It was Bible-based, not Game based like it’s here, but the essential elements I think were similar enough.”

    A Catholic friend of mine agrees with certain premises of Game, but he finds these ideas from the Bible. The best part is that he’s a feminist, yet holds all the same beliefs you guys do here.

    (Except he’s incredibly anti one night stand, porn, masturbation, and sex before marriage)

    He believes men and women are different yet absolutely necessary to complete one another in a holy union before God, and that men are the natural leaders of the household and the family.

    He disagrees with the one night stand and cheating concepts of Game and sees them to be a sign that society is going downhill, though he doesn’t see women as poor little victims either.

    It’s really interesting to see that, since nowadays a lot of religious guys say things along the lines of,”OMG MY MALE THOUGHTS ARE SINFUL MEN ARE BADBADBAD.” When technically EVERYONE is sinful at some point or another. ;]

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  67. On a historic note, I attended the Promise Keepers’ 1997 rally. Not out of any kind of affiliation, but because I was then in my mid/late 20s and living with my then-girlfriend near the DC mall, just south of L’Engant Plaza Metro Station, and I was curious. So a buddy of mine and I pretty much took part in the rally.

    From PKs’ web page:

    “In 1997, an estimated one million men gathered on the National Mall in Washington, D.C. for “Stand in the Gap,” marking arguably the largest gathering of Christian men in modern U.S. history.”

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  68. @Mandy:
    Except he’s incredibly anti one night stand, porn, masturbation, and sex before marriage

    I’ve known a few guys like that. While some are dorks like Ned Flanders, believe it or not, most of the ones I’ve met were very Alpha.

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  69. i don’t think it is funny at all!

    my dad was a criminal. when i was eleven, my entire class witnessed him being picked up by the police for selling drugs…

    i don’t think its cool at all to do so with women…

    some women think criminals have status and go to be together with gang leaders… i think its terrible! 😦

    my dad mistreated me when i was little…

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  70. Hey Avela… you ugly little troll… are you that blondie from yesterday’s photo or a fattie? If that was your photo, you know what to do.

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  71. Moralizing, status-mongering, BETA SWPL stuff from Game in BK.

    Blacks slaughtered each other with regularity. Auschwitz ran from 1941-1945, killing between 800K to 1.1 million (estimates vary). During the THREE MONTHS of the Interahamwe (literally, people who kill together) militia killings in Rwanda (April-June 1994), Hutus killed about 800K-1 million people (estimates vary). They did this primarily with rocks, stones, and machetes. No poison gas for them (you had to pay to be shot with a gun). Black Africans showed real go-getting spirit in committing genocide! So let’s not be stupid here — the constant, low-level, tribal warfare of Africa (and Amerinds in pre-Columbian America) leads itself to annual murder rate of 4%. Tribal peoples are incredibly violent, and often spasmodically commit genocide even using real basic killing tools. Hulagu Khan, for example, killed about a million people and destroyed the center of Muslim culture in the battle for Baghdad. Skulls were piled high outside the city as a warning. This was standard practice for the Mongols, and the Hindu Kush is literally, the Hindu Blood, referring to the slaughter of Hindus in the millions by the conquering Moghuls. Mao famously slaughtered about 50 million of his fellow Chinese, and of course the Taipeng Rebellion, in the 1850’s fought with muzzle loading muskets, killed 20 million.

    So let’s get serious here. White Western Europeans are pikers compared to the rest. Particularly Africans who are quite good at killing their neighbors, or the Mongols who excelled at it. Everything else is a bunch of SWPL status mongering BETA fashionability. Malibu mansion talk.
    ——————–
    Assanova — I completely agree with David X. Whenever I have embraced that view and way of thinking, it’s gone quite well for me. But then I carefully select my targets, avoiding Maxim Girls, airheads, and girls who prefer the Guidos/Flatbillers. Those types, I know I’ll fail with, so I simply pass them by.

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  72. on July 29, 2009 at 7:15 pm Dave from Hawaii

    He disagrees with the one night stand and cheating concepts of Game

    You and he are confusing the methods with the objective.

    The “concept” is how to build attraction with a female. You can use it to get one night stands…to cheat, or to get involved and keep a serious LTR going.

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  73. that is my photo… and yes i’m fat 😦

    why do you stress that? you could see it yourself! 😦

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  74. PA

    What’s interesting to me that until about a decade ago when Southern Baptists went PC, they too advocated the male-strength model of keeping a woman happy. It was Bible-based, not Game based like it’s here, but the essential elements I think were similar enough.

    Did you ever figure out what OMW’s religion was?

    It’s certainly patriarchal, in actual practice and everyday belief and it seems ministry.

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  75. I don’t remember much about OMW’s background. Too bad she’s no longer posting here. She is my favorite female commenter on this blog to date.

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  76. Avela, yes, you were a bit plump in that photo… but not as bad as you say. You look like you have small boobies, and I like that. You should post a picture that lets me see them better.

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  77. Mandy XD–

    It’s really interesting to see that, since nowadays a lot of religious guys say things along the lines of,”OMG MY MALE THOUGHTS ARE SINFUL MEN ARE BADBADBAD.

    I’d be interested to hear YOUR thoughts on how we can cleanse the body cultural and politic of these terribly misandrist notions born of feminism.

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  78. I like creating emotional connections with women. It is way better than creating financial connections with them. You know, like getting married. Because those financial connections don’t go away just because you stop “seeing” her. Love may not be for life, but herpes&alimony definitely are.

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  79. 🙂

    maybe…

    i’m sorry… thank you…

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  80. i did not like that about my… thingies… but the rest was ok!

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  81. PA says, “I’ve known a few guys like that. While some are dorks like Ned Flanders, believe it or not, most of the ones I’ve met were very Alpha.”

    Alphas in mentality and status combo tend to have higher standards because they have more at stake. They will at least pay lipservice to strong family values around people who aren’t in their innermost inner circle because to be a known womanizer could be used against him.

    It could also make his dear wife fair game…maybe not for actual cheating due to fear of death, but definitely for manipulation.

    It is very bad for your competitors or successors who aren’t your sons to know your woman is being neglected in any way. Weakest link… It would also make them look weak to be keeping a woman they were obviously tired of.

    You want your circle to be part of her fence of protection, and this can’t always be done through fear. It’s much more effective is there is respect.

    Their very close circle gets to cover up their little indiscretions with hoes and whatnot. A few sincerely do not have the time or patience to deal with hoes, or can’t get over the idea of the cock parade that has been there before him, but that’s just a few. Most just don’t want people to know about their dalliances.

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  82. ””””””””’YOU: Would you stay with a man you deeply loved if he confessed that he once did something very bad to another man who deserved it?

    HER: It would depend on what he did.

    YOU: Would you still love him if he asked you to help him dispose of the body?

    HER: Um…

    YOU: With a chainsaw?

    HER: Kiss me!”””””””””””””””””””’

    That is more of a 3rd dat after fucking rapore building game lol
    Then you hand her a shovel and a trashbag and go back inside and relax.

    ”””””””’G Maifesto,
    In regards to “serial killer game”:

    It is more commonly referred to as “The G Manifesto”.”””””””

    ”””Assanova,
    1)Who cares what the girl is thinking, and 2)You are the most important person in the relationship. Here’s an excerpt from his guide:””””””””””’

    So basically I am there. I just need to up my finances exactly as I hypothesized. But yea not sure if I can handle all that freedom because really that would be some serious mutherfucking power. Possibility of bitches jumping off cliffs becoming as comonplace as getting a flat tire.

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  83. That’s cute that avela calls them her “thingies”. I think she’s genuine, whatever she is (some kind of messed up Swedish teenager). Avela, how did you come to this blog?

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  84. The original market for African slaves was to work in Spanish and Portuguese colonies. They’re not Anglo-Saxon

    Actually, Arabs were taking African slaves even before then.

    And even before that, Africans were enslaving other Africans (which occasionally still happens to this day).

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  85. How would a sociopath/psychopath/person afflicted with antisocial personality or any variation of the above connect with a women emotionally?

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  86. In the time of the Prophet, there was this famous emancipated black slave who later became emancipated called Bilal. More here.

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  87. why defend the Germans and the British?
    Combined both World Wars claimed 100m lives.

    Why attack them? They’re not uniquely or supremely evil, and both countries have done a lot of good things.

    How many Africans, Asian, and Middle Eastern peoples died because of the British empires rule?

    How many lived longer and better lives because of things they invented (medicine, technology, etc.)? If whitey gets blanket blame as a race for war and genocide, then he gets blanket praise for the good things he did, too. Fair is fair.

    Multiple Historians have claimed:
    “The British deliberately adopted policies that caused as many as 29 million Indians to starve to death in the late 19th century”

    That’s horseshit. The author is a radical Leftist who invented a lot of sources. The idea that they’d deliberately starve a source of wealth and military manpower is preposterous on the face of it.

    What of the mess the British caused when they arbitrarily created nations with the stroke of a pen, rather than using the already established tribal territories that existed before the British controlled the Middle East and Africa?

    Africa was a mess before the Brits, Africa is a mess after the Brits. Same with the Middle East. Blaming colonialism and imperialism is getting a little old by now. Arguably both regions would be much better off under British rule.

    anglo saxon rule- it was no better and no worse than any other empire’s rule. plenty of evil to be found everywhere.

    But again we come back to why are they blamed for the evil but given no credit for the good?

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  88. on July 29, 2009 at 9:37 pm Backdoor Man

    @PA

    You mentioned Ned Flanders. That is funny, because I am in the process of writing a cheat sheet for men on how to conduct themselves in LTRs, and I use Ned Flanders as an example of what to avoid. More to come, eventually…

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  89. The original market for African slaves was to work in Spanish and Portuguese colonies. They’re not Anglo-Saxon

    african women went to slavery willingly, dreaming about the huge cocks, raw manliness and the Holy Thrinity and the word of God that only Portuguese and Spanish men could give

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  90. avela

    I saw your picture. fat people like you sweat a lot in tropical climates, burning energy and body fat in the process

    you should hide your whale-body with heavy clothes in winter then migrate to tropical places where your massive body could lose some fat due to the weather

    I personally suggest Brazil

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  91. Game in BK

    Septimius Severus

    Yeah it’s horseshitte he was black. Berber father, Italian mother. The BBC implying otherwise if it does, havent bothered to check, would just be a reflection of how PC they’ve become. Who do you suppose is writing their black history month over there stuff anyway? How much tough review on who’s what race do you think it’s gotten?

    Were there some blacks in Roman forces? Yeah. MOre dark skinned 1/3 black North Africans/moors kind of thing. A few Nubians from far upper Egypt or bordering on it and Ethiopians. Most of the richer North Africans e.g. the Carthaginians were light skinned and mostly or entirely Caucasian. That’s still the case.

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  92. Bhetti—

    Reminds me of the Apocalypse Opener/Shock & Awe, where a good part of it is immediately communicating to a woman that he finds her hot. Reportedly difficult to make it work if it’s not true.

    No babe. You’re missing this one. The essence of what makes it work is his demonstrating utter boldness and confidence. Like he’s such a hot shiite in bed and generally where it counts for casual that this has actually worked for him before and/or he doesn’t give a shiite. But is daring. Note that the essence of what makes it work, when it does, isn’t the short super direct question itself “wanna go home with me, like now?” It’s instead the steady confidant stare he fixes her eyes with afterwards, without laughing or smiling or breaking the tension, and holds, holds, holds – until she answers.

    Note this is also a lot more likely to work if he’s demonstrated social value by her having seen hot girl(s) flirting with him earlier, or his being real good looking and dominant feeling physically, and so on. I also suspect it would have a higher rate of payoff if he started down a normal pickup route and then did a sort of about face, said aloud to her “fuck it”. And then delivered the apocalypse.

    That would make a less pure game narrative though. Often mix and match works better.

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  93. avela–

    that is my photo… and yes i’m fat 😦

    why do you stress that? you could see it yourself!

    I can’t adequately assess for that pic myself.

    You may be being to hard on yourself.

    Or maybe not.

    I think something more revealing is in order. Not nude mind you.

    Bra and appealing, not granny, panties would do.

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  94. @avela

    BTW, what do you think about the Jews? do you cook?

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  95. avela–

    that is my photo… and yes i’m fat 😦

    why do you stress that? you could see it yourself!

    I can’t adequately assess from that pic myself.

    You may be being too hard on yourself.

    Or maybe not.

    I think something more revealing is in order. Not nude mind you.

    Bra and appealing, not granny, panties would do.

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  96. The_Kingie

    The point is, stupid person, to get past their labial folds. Diddling with their emotions is a means to that end.
    I mean , have you ever had a satisfying orgasm deep in a womans emotions?

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  97. The brits were that great huh? You say they would never starve Indians. What of the irish?

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  98. the british are so evil that they INVENTED starvation.

    before the british, the peoples of color were busy living in sustainable societies without any ahrm to the environment and studying space flights

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  99. The Brits did not starve the Irish. Potato blight is an accident of nature. They did not emote enough about the tragedy unfolding, and more food aid would have been nice, but the British empire was one of the more constructive things that ever happened in this world, imho.
    The Irish are a lot like Palestinians. Individually they are often fine people but in a group they get stupid.
    The waters around Ireland swarm with tasty fish. Very much so in the 1840s. Might that have been exploited to head off mass starvation?

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  100. im bringing sexy back

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  101. Rum

    the British empire was one of the more constructive things that ever happened in this world, imho.

    I agree. In fact I think the evidence for that is great for those that aren’t Marxists or PC propagandized fellow travelers.

    Then there came the American further globalizing imperium which has been just as good. Except for feminism. Which the Brits co-originated.

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  102. Game in BK, you’re obviously reading your history from very biased sources.

    By Black, most people mean Sub-Saharan African. Septimius Severus was not majority SSA. Period. THE SAHARA DESERT is huge impediment to gene-flow between the north African Berbers and Arabs and the more conventially black populations below.

    The Irish have also had a huge chippy on their shoulder about British domination of their isle since Cromwell. Every single tragedy that has occurred to them will be spun by their nationalists as instigated by the British, just as some anti-Semites choose to act towards Jews. The resentment runs very deep – principally, that’s what the whole war in Northern Ireland was about, though facially it aligned itself on a religious Catholic-Protestant axis to reflect the social division.

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  103. Nearly all of human progress in the last 350 years has been due to two nations : Britain and the United States. Britain in the earlier half of that period and the US in the later half.

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  104. hmm… DA hasn’t been around in a while. coincidence?

    David needed a break from the addictive world of vomiting foul words and thoughts on an hourly basis on this blog.

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  105. The germans are anglo- this wasn’t only about the brits- we were talking anglo empires.

    Will we also excuse the 100m deaths in the name of building an anglo empire?

    Ah well- now I’m done. I don’t care to argue this.

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  106. DA has been attending to his church. And avela is a pale shadow of Pupu. What I want to know is- what happened to Default User ??

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  107. on July 29, 2009 at 11:40 pm mandy been here a while

    BK
    “Will we also excuse the 100m deaths in the name of building an anglo empire? ”

    Dude if we’re that bad, just move to some African country or Haiti or Jamaica already and pass laws to keep us out. We promise to stay away this time!

    Sincerely
    The white race

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  108. screw rapport and that totally weak mehow crap, better off being like this guy:

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  109. avela sounds like pupu on helium.

    or DA after a 36 hour mastur-thon.

    hmm… DA hasn’t been around in a while. coincidence?

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  110. ””””””gig
    @avela

    BTW, what do you think about the Jews? do you cook?””””

    Gig you need to capitalize that shit. Your on fire. Did you do the right of passage or something?

    The spanish thing funny as fuck.

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  111. i will not post any nudity pictures on a public forum! 😦

    do you think i am fat!?

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  112. ”””””’maurice
    DA has been attending to his church. And avela is a pale shadow of Pupu. What I want to know is- what happened to Default User ??””””””””’

    Default figured out how life really works.

    Going scarface route.

    Default worker bee.

    Then Default pussy.

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  113. on July 30, 2009 at 7:07 am Epoxytocin No. 87

    Will we also excuse the 100m deaths in the name of building an anglo empire?

    Whoa. People died running a race that short?
    Here I was thinking it was just marathoners who bit it while they were running.
    Must be the steroids.

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  114. gig

    the british are so evil that they INVENTED starvation.

    before the british, the peoples of color were busy living in sustainable societies without any ahrm to the environment and studying space flights

    Gig, you are my hero!

    BK, the English did not deliberately starve the Irish either.

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  115. It’s not uncommon for a guy to take the wife’s name in Japan. Their tradition is that the oldest son inherits everything (btw, debts are inheritable as well), so it’s mainly a financial transaction to keep one’s lineage from dying out.

    Game in BK, try reading up on Ghengis Khan. The Mongols were only stopped from invading Japan by a typhoon, and they made it as far East as Poland, with plenty of bodies left along the way. Anglo Saxons, or the British, are not in the same league. Those Polish and Russian girls with the exotic looking eyes are a souvenir they left in their wake.

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  116. According to some the:

    NATIVE AMERICAN GENOCIDE- never happened.
    Slavery which fueled the British and American empires- never happened.

    And even if you concede they did happen- you say it wasn’t a big deal.
    WTF?

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  117. @epoxy- i think those honored dead were the specially-trained minefield-clearing sprinters.

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  118. “Native American Genocide” didn’t happen if you mean a Nazi-style deliberate, planned extermination of the Indians. The natives died of communicable diseases, but this was not intentional biological warfare.

    The role of slavery in “fueling” the British empire and the industrial revolution is greatly exaggerated.

    Slavery was not illegal and was not considered immoral until well into the 1800s. For many centuries before then, it was not a “big deal”, it was a normal practice. Projecting the moral values of 2009 back into this previous time is an absurd waste of time. The peoples of those times should be judged by the standards of their own time, not the standards of our time. We should also note that no slaves would have been freed if white values did not change. Blacks did not free themselves, those evil white-run empires (Britain and the USA) freed them at a great cost in white blood and money. Thanks, whitey!

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  119. on July 30, 2009 at 10:54 am Seeking Alpha

    Slavery which fueled the British and American empires- never happened.

    Slavery did nothing for the American empire. It may or may not have been helpful during the early days of the American republic, but our empire was founded after slavery was already abolished. And the roots of our empire were based on immigrants and Northerns, not Southerners.

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  120. on July 30, 2009 at 8:56 am Angry Asian Man

    Master, your sagacious wisdom is required in plucking the sweet nectar of nubile young women.

    What would be the optimal pickup strategy to direct against jaded young women working as booth babes?

    I ask because of this event here.

    http://www.chinasmack.com/videos/chinajoy-2009-pregnant-gate/

    Now obviously while this man’s direct approach took some cajones (and his response to being confronted took even more!), it was a failure in that instead of getting the girl interested, shoving a video camera up her ass made her somewhat uneasy and her friend moved to cock block when he made to pursue.

    Say if you or I were in his position, what would be required to distinguish myself from the rest of the heaving hordes of sweaty geekdom and bring the blonde home for the evening. Would it also be possible to bag her redheaded cockblocking friend as well?

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  121. anglo saxon rule- it was no better and no worse than any other empire’s rule. plenty of evil to be found everywhere.

    Nonsense. If you were given the choice of being born as the average guy in any post-colonial country, the odds are that you’d pick a place colonized by “anglo-saxons”. Just compare the long list of decent places left behind by the British with the very short list of decent places left behind by the Portuguese, the Spanish, the French, the Russians or the Italians.

    And remember the part about being the average guy – Brazil may sound cool if you’re an American with money but the locals are just stuck dreaming about becoming Americans with money.

    The Germans might’ve been good at exporting civilization, too, if they hadn’t been stopped by the world wars.

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  122. lovelysexybeauty imperiously sniffed:

    Oops, I hope I don’t come across conceited or haughty.

    but you always do – its so cute

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  123. The_King

    How would a sociopath/psychopath/person afflicted with antisocial personality connect with a women emotionally?

    ask Bill Clinton

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  124. Game in BK self-loahted:

    How many Africans, Asian, and Middle Eastern peoples died because of the British empires rule?

    When I drive around LA,
    it wasn’t enough,
    apparently

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  125. tip of the hat to you and Sebastian, sir. this is an excellent post.

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  126. Bf says “where were you all this time?” my answer? A straight-faced answer of “Well the line was really long tonight of all the Black men I had to suck off before I came home.” or “I was out with that hot latin boy that doesn’t talk back. You should take a que from him, babe.”

    my husband would stab me if i said something like this.

    re:serial killer game. i genuinely believed he had killed someone the whole 1st year we were seeing each other and i didn’t care.

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  127. on July 30, 2009 at 1:05 pm Comment_Whatever

    jaakkeli:

    The Germans might’ve been good at exporting civilization, too, if they hadn’t been stopped by the world wars.

    The British ‘accidentally’ put the German Boer women and children in concentration camps and murdered tens of thousands of them.

    In the same way, British Puppet de Gaul let the British steal Algeria from the French.

    People talk about the ‘war-like’ ness of the German government in 1900-1914. Well, I have no idea how they justified standing by with their hands in their pockets as the British Army exterminated other Germans, but they did. World War I should have started in 1901.

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  128. the boers were not german, they were dutch

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  129. The British ‘accidentally’ put the German Boer women and children in concentration camps and murdered tens of thousands of them.

    I get very sentimental about nationalistic hymns. Check out “De la Rey” by Bok Van Blerk on Youtube. It will bring a tear to your eye.

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  130. And the English can suck my ass. Not just for the Boer business, but also for inventing Protestantism, political correctness, multiculturalism, and now for turning their own country into Burqua Nation.

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  131. “for inventing Protestantism,”

    Eh — the Germans and the Swiss invented protestantism, which explains a lot of its dysfunction really. The English turned out protestant simply because the King wanted to get divorced. They were bastards about their own bastardized form of protestantism, though.

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  132. on July 30, 2009 at 1:56 pm Cannon's Canon

    amor de rey? amor de rey!

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  133. Avela, are you for real? Why are you even reading this blog?

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  134. on July 30, 2009 at 2:59 pm An Experienced Father

    NATIVE AMERICAN GENOCIDE – Didn’t happen.

    What killed the majority of native Americans was European disease, not Europeans.

    The journery’s of Hernando De Soto alone wiped out the civilized mound building people’s of the Mississippi and Ohio River Valley’s.

    See this for his route map:

    and

    De Soto brought a dozen European diseases, human and non-human, with his people, pigs and horses to a virgin field human population.

    Virgin field infections kill on the order of 90% of those that catch the disease.

    http://www.shmoop.com/columbian-exchange/science-technology.html

    The word “conquistador” evokes memories of Cortés and Pizarro, but in truth the greatest conquistadors of the New World were smallpox and influenza—not to mention typhoid, cholera, tuberculosis, measles, scarlet fever, yellow fever, and malaria.

    Every one of these diseases, endemic to the Old World, spread to the Americas after 1492 with catastrophic effects for indigenous people there. (In return, the Americas afflicted the Old World with only one major affliction—syphilis. And even that is in dispute; scientists and historians remain divided on whether the disease truly originated in the New World.)

    Old World diseases—lethal enough already on their continents of origin—became exponentially more dangerous in America, where they spread as virgin-soil epidemics among native populations totally lacking in immunities to them. (In Europe and Africa, countless children died from diseases like smallpox and malaria; those who survived, however, built up antibodies that inoculated them against adult infection. Since no Native Americans had ever encountered these diseases, none built up any immunity, leaving entire populations as “virgin soil” for infection. When the diseases struck, entire communities could be felled in a matter of days.)

    Virgin-soil epidemics are among the deadliest phenomena ever experienced by humankind, and the death toll of the pandemics unleashed in the Americas by the Columbian Exchange far exceeded that of history’s most famous virgin-soil epidemic, Europe’s Black Death (an outbreak of bubonic plague in the 1340s). The cataclysmic effects of virgin-soil epidemics struck Native American societies just as they faced the threat of European invasion, decisively reducing the natives’ capability to resist colonization. (It is worth noting that devastating smallpox pandemics struck both the Aztecs and Incas just before their respective disastrous encounters with Cortés and Pizarro.)
    Mississippian Mystery: De Soto and La Salle
    Perhaps the most arresting evidence of the consequences of virgin-soil epidemics came from the entrada of Hernando de Soto, who led an army of conquistadors deep into the North American mainland in 1539. De Soto hoped to find gold in the country that today comprises the southeastern United States; he ended up leading more than 600 men and hundreds of livestock on a four-year wild goose chase. In the end, his mission proved to be a fiasco—two-thirds of the men, including De Soto himself, died without ever finding a trace of gold—but De Soto’s expedition powerfully illustrated the destructive force of smallpox, which apparently spread from his pigs to the people of the Mississippi Valley. Before leaving, De Soto’s men recorded their impressions of the Mississippian people—they found dense settlements, with large villages and cities often sited within view of each other, separated by carefully tended fields of corn. After De Soto left the country, no European returned for more than 100 years. When the French explorer La Salle canoed down the Mississippi Valley in 1682, he found very few villages, no cities, and no fields of corn, but instead a landscape almost devoid of people and overrun by buffalo (which De Soto had apparently never encountered).

    In the 140 years that passed between the explorations of De Soto and La Salle, something transformed the Mississippi Valley from a densely populated Indian heartland into a virtually deserted wilderness. That something was almost certainly smallpox. The landscape encountered by La Salle was not, as he believed, a primeval wilderness, but rather an ecosystem that had recently experienced the sudden destruction of its keystone species—Indians. The buffalo wandered in because few Indians survived to hunt them.

    From Canada to the Tierra del Fuego, the indigenous inhabitants of the Americas suffered similar calamities, the Columbian Exchange of diseases ravaging Indian communities and facilitating the European takeover of the hemisphere.

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  135. on July 30, 2009 at 5:10 pm Comment_Whatever

    dana

    the boers were not german, they were dutch

    They were Dutch AND German with some French thrown in.

    But it is true that only a PERCENTAGE of the tens of thousands of women and children killed in English Concentration Camps were German.

    And yeah, the German’s did talk about it.

    http://books.google.com/books?id=ywZoAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA87&lpg=PA87&dq=German+%2B+Boer&source=bl&ots=FQrZ1yaEsh&sig=XNvOIE0YGi2n2JAPrI3Wa2R6O0E&hl=en&ei=ngpySoeUKIKwNqzkibEM&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3#v=onepage&q=German%20%2B%20Boer&f=false

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  136. Comment_Whatever

    But it is true that only a PERCENTAGE of the tens of thousands of women and children killed in English Concentration Camps were German.

    They weren’t killed in them. They died in them. You imply an intent that wasn’t there.

    The British Concentration Camps in the Boer war were very, very different in intent and also effect than the Nazi ones in WWII. There’s a whole lot of leftist propaganda implying the opposite but it’s cr*p.

    The purpose was not to work the inmates literally to death, nor to hold them as they awaited mass genocidal killing, as was the case with the Nazi concentration camps, yes named after the British ones in the Boer war but very different.

    Instead the Brits rounded up Boer women and children and men when they could capture them, and placed them in guarded and barbed wire enclosed camps so that they could police them in a concentrated place. What had been happening is that the Boer men would fight guerrilla war campaigns against the British but then fade back to their farmsteads as supposed uninvolved civilians, where their wives and children would be keeping the farm livelihood up to support their families and fighting men. So the Brits were trying to concentrate this purportedly civilian, but war supplying population so that men couldn’t fade back into it but simply be killed as combatants without the Brits having to also kill their women and children.

    Unfortunately disease in these concentrated populations sometimes made more likely by inadequate diet, and with the primitive medical care available at the time and particularly there, lead to a lot of unintended deaths and a lot of outrage against and also within Britain.

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  137. I am with PÀ. I do have a chip on my shoulder about protestantism. I couldn´t care less if muslims wiped out the protestant religion from the Earth.

    I go to church three or four times a year, but it would hurt me a lot if barbaric mohamedans occupied Lourdes or fatima

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  138. on July 30, 2009 at 11:11 pm Comment_Whatever

    doug said:

    They weren’t killed in them. They died in them. You imply an intent that wasn’t there.

    Pen women and children in cages without food or shelter or medical care and they die?

    Who knew?

    Boy, they sure were ‘stupid’. And by stupid I mean evil.

    And let’s not forget the ‘accident’ where the British ‘forgot’ to keep their treaty obligations to Italy after World War I.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_London_(1915)

    Of course, the British had nothing to do with that! President Wilson said ‘No’. And though it was a bitter pill for the government of Britain to break their word for the first time that day, they just had to set the treaty for which thousands of Italians had died on fire. This of course had nothing to do with the Italians going for Germany in World War II.

    Then, the Brits proved all those liars about their brutality to anyone who couldn’t defend himself wrong with the monstrous Treaty of Versailles!

    And then the mass fire-bombing of German population centers in the final days of World War II!

    Indeed, it’s all just one big ‘accident’.

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  139. Boy, they sure were ’stupid’. And by stupid I mean evil.

    And let’s not forget the ‘accident’ where the British ‘forgot’ to keep their treaty obligations to Italy after World War I.

    No country before or since has EVER broken a treaty! To paraphrase Gig, the British practically INVENTED treaty-breaking!

    Somehow I just don’t feel bad that the British screwed the Italians, who were greedy vultures themselves who declared war not out of principle but to get their hands on other people’s territory.

    the Brits proved all those liars about their brutality to anyone who couldn’t defend himself wrong with the monstrous Treaty of Versailles!

    Wow, how monstrous and brutal to impose a peace treaty on an aggressor state that killed millions of your citizens and cost you untold millions of pounds! Curse those evil British!

    You mean the treaty that was so monstrous it failed to prevent Germany from going to war again 20 years later? (You want to see an example of a truly monstrous treaty? Wiki “Treaty of Brest-Litovsk” – that’s the treaty that poor innocent Germany imposed on Russia.)

    The real engine behind the “injustice” of Versailles was France. Only France had a real interest in permanently weakening Germany. Versailles would have been a much more punitive treaty without the British restraining the French.

    And then the mass fire-bombing of German population centers in the final days of World War II!

    One should have exactly the same amount of sympathy for the Germans as one has for the Japanese regarding Hiroshima and Nagasaki – ZERO. In both cases, all they had to do to stop the pain was SURRENDER. The war was obviously lost, neither Germany nor Japan had any excuse to keep fighting, and the Allies had every reason to pour on the bombs until they did. Bombing German and Japanese cities was moral, legal, and militarily necessary in 1945.

    In February 1945, when the British bombed Dresden, the western allies weren’t even across the Rhine yet, and the Allies were about to suffer hundreds of thousands of casualties fighting their way into Germany. There was absolutely no reason RAF raids on Germany should not continue.

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  140. Most verbal game doesn’t translate to Asian cultures.

    Negging works, but only after rapport is built – it’s not as useful to build rapport. Asian face is fierce face – don’t mess with it heedlessly.

    The rapport building questions would all fall flat. SE Asians hold their cards so close to their chest, they seem to not hold any cards at all. They have no personal persona. They are there to be whatever is expected of them. They don’t introspect. They’d think you were sucking all the fun out of the room with all those personal questions.

    Intimacy is easiest built with a heavy leaning on frame and sexually charged innuendo. Body language and intention.

    It’s not done through quizzes here. At all.

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  141. Frame, and FUNNY sexually charged innuendo.

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  142. Frame, meaning, it doesn’t much matter what she thinks and feels. You’ll take charge, and she’ll enjoy the ride, and feel good about herself for it.

    You are not there to mesh with her. She’s there to discover how much she was waiting to mesh with you.

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  143. xsplat

    SE Asians hold their cards so close to their chest, they seem to not hold any cards at all.

    Be nice – that’s bc they’re all shortchanged in the rackage deptartment. However, they can carry heavy loads on their head.

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  144. Fire

    Be nice – that’s bc they’re all shortchanged in the rackage deptartment.

    Depends what country, what region. Thais have no tits but great ass. Indonesians and Filipina titties vary similarly to ‘merikan titties – but at least their overall size is rarely huge, like most Australians. And the faces are rounder.

    Most westerners just look horse faced to me now. Most women that western men find attractive I find mannish. Large and horse faced. Even models.

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  145. Tood –

    Firepower –

    ” lovelysexybeauty imperiously sniffed:

    Oops, I hope I don’t come across conceited or haughty.

    but you always do – its so cute”

    Heheheee “imperiously sniffed” loll hehehe 😉

    Willard Libby –

    “…
    Nothing wrong with a woman who is possessive toward her man. It’s really not possible for a woman to be too “controlling” because ultimately there is not much she can do to control an independent man.

    But she can be too laid back, too unconcerned about his independence. A woman’s energy and interest keeps a relationship going. Only a herby beta is going to stay with a woman who doesn’t seem to care and acts like she’s almost better off without him.”

    You really think a woman can’t be *too* controlling? Even if she asks him where he is constantly, or demands to know every detail of his day and who he talked to, or constantly asks his opinion and for his validation? What about that chick from Wedding Crashers (Isla Fisher) – he fell in love with her later but she was crazy no?

    Maybe you are thinking that an independent man with game can keep any woman’s controlling tendencies in check just by not responding/putting her in her place/etc. But are you sure he wouldn’t feel a bit turned off? There are so many beautiful and sexy women in the world, wouldn’t he just think let me get another hot one who is not as needy and dramatic?

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  146. Tood –

    Thanks. Like someone mentioned, Jewish religion has always had contracts. From what I know of Islam, it does too – in fact that’s what the marriage is. So prenup maybe just sounds negative since it’s a legal rather than religious thing to some.

    Firepower –

    ” lovelysexybeauty imperiously sniffed:

    Oops, I hope I don’t come across conceited or haughty.

    but you always do – its so cute”

    Heheheee “imperiously sniffed” loll hehehe 😉

    Willard Libby –

    “…
    Nothing wrong with a woman who is possessive toward her man. It’s really not possible for a woman to be too “controlling” because ultimately there is not much she can do to control an independent man.

    But she can be too laid back, too unconcerned about his independence. A woman’s energy and interest keeps a relationship going. Only a herby beta is going to stay with a woman who doesn’t seem to care and acts like she’s almost better off without him.”

    You really think a woman can’t be *too* controlling? Even if she asks him where he is constantly, or demands to know every detail of his day and who he talked to, or constantly asks his opinion and for his validation? What about that chick from Wedding Crashers (Isla Fisher) – he fell in love with her later but she was crazy no?

    Maybe you are thinking that an independent man with game can keep any woman’s controlling tendencies in check just by not responding/putting her in her place/etc. But are you sure he wouldn’t feel a bit turned off? There are so many beautiful and sexy women in the world, wouldn’t he just think let me get another hot one who is not as needy and dramatic?

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  147. xsplat

    Fire

    Depends what country, what region. Thais have no tits but great ass. Indonesians and Filipina titties vary similarly to ‘merikan titties

    I agree mostly – but those asses never stop growing. Their legs are not graceful, either.

    Still, all azn chix do whip up a nifty Cocker Spaniel Casserole when the Monk comes over for Sunday dinner.

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  148. F: Filipinas are reputed to keep growing. I’ve not seen it myself. Admit it though, on the planet, Asians remain the smallest, throughout their life spans.

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  149. on July 31, 2009 at 5:20 pm msexceptiontotherule

    Hitler was a great public speaker until the syphilis hit stage III. And originally, he wanted to simply send the Jews to other countries, until the meeting that was set up to brainstorm for other options, which didn’t occur until after the other countries which were approached had refused to take the German Jewish population. The U.S. sent an entire ship of Jewish people back to (I think it was Poland) the country they had fled because of the German occupation and subsequent deportation to prison and death camps.

    If you’d like to think about another group of people being subjugated and tortured, consider looking into China’s experience with Japan; a good starting point will be the historical facts that are the basis of the book “Rape of Nanking”. I like to be well-rounded in my knowledge of “people with problems”.

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  150. Game in BK informed:

    Emperor Septimius Severus wasn’t the only Black Roman in Britain. There were other African officers, soldiers … stationed on and around Hadrian’s Wall in the 3rd century.

    So that explains the tagging on the wall – and the pimp cup artifact

    his name was actually Tayseptimius El-Severus, btw…

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  151. […] Rochester is an expert in the fine art of the neg.  He is also a specialist in creating an emotional connection. And of course we can’t forget that final bait to reel ‘em in, the hint of soft […]

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