What To Say When A Girl Calls You Gay

Some elements of game are deliberately antagonizing, because pretty women have natural social shields that need to be penetrated before a courtship can have a chance of succeeding. Antagonism (aka breezy teasing) will occasionally instigate a frisky response from a girl.

A reader sends along an example of this seduction dynamic.

After learning about the different eye lash extension curl types from my GF I told my player buddy about it. He decided to throw it out at this little tart on Tinder and see what happened.

21 yr old blonde responded with a typical shit test. Normally I wouldn’t have thought much about it, but for some reason I thought for the better part of a few hours what a good response to this would be. I was stymied on this one.

Inner game precedes outer game. Recall what CH has told you to visualize when confused about how to respond to a shit testing sexy girl:

What Would An Alpha Male With A Harem Do?

Imagine you got this reply while another girl had her lips wrapped around your cock. Really feel the moment. You look down at the tousled mass of hair dancing above your vitals, then up at your phone as this other girl’s message comes over the wire. Your state of mind duly informed, what kind of attitude do you think you’ll be sending “beach_babe55”? One of neediness? Resentment? Deference? Indignation? Defensiveness? Supplication?

No on all counts. What you’ll write back instead (after you’ve had your pleasure) is a terse glib response pregnant with self-amusement and cockiness and indifference to winning her approval. Once you have assumed this alpha male attitude, the right words will flow effortlessly. Those words could take the form of Agree&Amplify:

“no but my bf is”

or

“assless chaps don’t make a man gay”

You could assume the sale:

“stop trying to convert me”

or

“your flirting needs work”

You could backstab her self-esteem:

“knew it. you’re a j curl girl”

or

“you’re one of those”

You could make a double entendre:

“nice mouth on you”

You could ignore her:

“why is your shirt ripped? you poor?”

You could be the reckless, challenging asshole that chicks dig:

“text me back when you have something sexy to say”

or

“C+. sassy, but not sexy”

or

“no but listening to you might turn me”

You could dick pic her:

“8===D ~~~G A Y”

You could discombobulate her with a non sequitur:

“double rainbow all the way”

Finally, you could make yourself laugh with an insolent cat pic:

Once you have imbued the right attitude, the possibilities for flirtatious banter increase exponentially.

 





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  1. “I make a mean panini”

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    • “LOLsers! Honey, I ain’t the one in this here conversation of ours whose face is made up like a damned trannie…”

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      • For the record, his opener did sound gay as hell [the way he phrased it]. But he’s also a fool for hitting on a whore who wears fake eyelashes – that’s chimpanzee behavior right there.

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      • Girl called me gay once. Once. She’s in her grave now.

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      • He could turn his opener into a MALE shit-test, to probe for any history of mudsharkery – tease her about “‘Stendahs” [hair extensions] and “Press-On Nails” and about how he saw a Sistah on the video footage from Ferguson last night who was wearing the same eyelashes while she looted the shelves in the liquor store.

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      • Hymen, I hate to break it to you, but my big bad goyische-kopf erection is used for slaying jewesses. SRSLY.

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      • “Girl called me gay once. Once. She’s in her grave now.”

        But did she have a bun in her oven?

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      • Hymen, I hate to break it to you, but by y’all’s precious talmuhdick law, that bun in her oven is one of YOU.

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      • Oh my God, Hymen – did your mother die in childbirth? Were you raised by her spinster sister, a girl named Myril?

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      • This is really the only line of insult to pursue:

        “O so yur not a tranny?

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  2. Or maybe we’re overthinking it. How about “nope.” That’s my standard reply when chicks bomb me with this one.

    [CH: nope is a passing grade, but it won’t get you to the head of the vaginal pass. seduction requires a bit more effort, unless you truly have no designs on fucking the girl. in which case, why would you even bother sending the first text?]

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    • @CH “seduction requires a bit more effort.”

      But why would you put more effort in when you have a harem and “lips wrapped around your cock”?

      [CH: there’s effort, and there’s perception of effort. never let em see you sweat.]

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      • [CH: there’s effort, and there’s perception of effort. never let em see you sweat.]

        that’s a good little nugget. of course there must be some effort. no effort means no gain. it just has to appear that you are making less effort than her.

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      • The ‘effort’ here is imagining what you’d say if you had a harem. The idea is that, if you did have a harem, these responses would in fact, be effortless.

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      • on August 19, 2014 at 3:18 pm gunslingergregi

        yea but 20 bitches might want you doesn’t mean you want them
        they still can be ok for lips on cock though he he he

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    • I think the 3 second rule applies here. Always try to be as witty as you can, but if it takes longer than 3 seconds to come up with a line, cut to the chase with something simple.

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    • ” I’m hitting on you, assume what you will”

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      • I think the “agree and amplify” rule of thumb would apply here;
        Ex: “Oh yeah – I’m *totally* gay! CUTE shoes, BTW..”
        .. as you gaze directly into her “war-painted” eyes.

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    • She: you gay?
      Me: maybe. modern wmn hv mustaches

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    • @Scray

      Thank youagain for the encouragement last time around man. Today I reached a new milestone in my day game.

      Cheers.

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    • Well, I do like anal.

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  3. Was a weird opener. What dude knows about extensions?

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    • Opening a girl with a question about girl stuff is just one more possible way to open or divert a conversation with the silly creatures. The more directions a man can take a conversation the better. If someone questions your sexuality because of it, and your pride/actual sexuality can’t take the hit, then stick to “sup” as your starter.

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  4. She’s from Littleton, CO….so many dark humor potential openings

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  5. I’d reply, “No, I’m inquisitive.” That may or may not be a real alpha thing to say, but it’s what I would say.

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  6. Lol, asking about eyelashes. Is this what passes for game these days?

    [CH: it got her invested.

    ps look up the term “neg”.]

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  7. […] What To Say When A Girl Calls You Gay […]

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  8. Its important to pass a shit test with your balls intact, but never forget to judge her. Specifically, you should judge a girl based on the types of shit tests she gives you.

    This one is bitchy. But its not so much bitchy as it lacks playfulness, and comes so quick in the interaction that she has chosen to forcefully break rapport. A DHV on her part, as she can afford to be a cunt in response to your playfulness, and you’re still going to respond to her.

    With a hard-up front shit test like this, a girl basically tags herself as useless for anything other than short term sportfucking.

    The purpose of the shit test is not just to filter out weak guys, its also her attempt to create a little sexual tension. The “are you gay” is just a cunt shit test with none of the playfulness. Plenty of girls shit test upfront with a more playful manner, sometimes even teeing one up for a witty comment. Those are the girls that are pleasant to be around.

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    • “but never forget to judge her. Specifically, you should judge a girl based on the types of shit tests she gives you.”

      this is the truth.

      shit tests are normal and expected and they do show interest. the girl in this post seems okay. the question about eyelashes is a little gay so her response was legitimate. i’d keep going with her and see where it goes.

      but you have to pay attention. some girls are just bitches and you have to consider whether she’ll be worth the headache later on if you do end up getting her. some guys think it’s all about numbers but sometimes it’s better to just walk away and move on to better options.

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    • on August 19, 2014 at 3:30 pm haunted trilobite

      Then is “I see you’re a debased sadistic deviant who immediately thinks of men sticking it up each others’ shit pipes when someone asks you an innocent question. That you project and prescribe that degenerate behaviour onto others, is a little indication of the destruction you’d like to wreak on society if you had any modicum of power. It’s a pretty safe bet you’d emotionally castrate and belittle any man you had a passing acquaintance with, not to mention any poor lambs to the slaughter that are foolish enough to get in a ‘relationship’ with you (AKA provide you with the beta bucks you think your rancid clopper is worth” a good, judgmental response?

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      • @haunted,

        Fucking. Perfect.

        Comment of the Week material, IMO!

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      • nah, that is just really weird…and not good weird like David Rees, but psycho Unabomber or John Wayne Gacy weird

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      • on August 20, 2014 at 4:31 am haunted trilobite

        There, there, trav, all is well in Toytown. You gotta white, for the knight, to allow women to have a male-bashing paaarrrttaay. It’s not a symptom of ‘goodbye america’ where women feel bold enough to dole out their gender-bending insults without censure or reproach. Just like how the latest movie where Cameron Diaz continually pours oestrogen powder into her boyfriend’s food and drink, until he grows gynaecomastic protrusions, is a delightful romantic-comedic romp.

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    • “The “are you gay” is just a cunt shit test with none of the playfulness. Plenty of girls shit test upfront with a more playful manner, sometimes even teeing one up for a witty comment. Those are the girls that are pleasant to be around.”

      i agree. can’t stand these kinds of girls. she’s already coming off as superior and bitchy. that isn’t cute, funny or sexy. sadly most girls these days think it is.

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      • “she’s already coming off as superior and bitchy. that isn’t cute, funny or sexy.”

        agreed.

        and to add another perspective, even though i originally thought his eyelash comment came off as pretty lame, in the right context, i think it might work. IF you were dealing with a girl who has a good sense of humor and some brains.

        this girl sounds either superior and bitchy or…stupid and boring. some women would actually get the irony of a man asking about eyelashes to pick up a girl. women know men don’t give a rats ass about cosmetics. that makes his approach quite funny and a woman with a good head on her shoulders and a sense of humor would get that.

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    • If a man came at me like that, I would think he was a catty bitch.

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  9. After I said “no, I’m inquisitive” I’d note that she was possibly a tactless ass. If there were many more arguably rude statements like that, she’d be instant history. Mind your manners.

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  10. A lot of people want to suck my cock – doesn’t make me gay.

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  11. HER: Are you gay?

    ME: Yes. I’m a carpet munching lesbian trapped in the chiseled male body of a Greek God. Coffee or drinks?

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  12. since when does Tinder rate matches in percetage terms?

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  13. “I’m gay for you, baby.”

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  14. on August 19, 2014 at 12:53 pm Bitchesaintshitbuthoesandtricks

    Lol he asked about her eyelashes what the fuck is she suppose to say?

    Other responses:

    “only on sundayz lolz”

    “u want it”

    “r u?”

    [CH: read the reader’s email. it was obviously meant as a neg, based upon the pic she sent where it looks like she’s batting fake eyelashes. don’t get hung up on the initiating communication. it obviously worked, because it got her invested in the conversation with him, even if it’s only a little investment and not a very flattering investment. focus instead on where to go with it that would maximize his odds of banging her at some later date.]

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  15. After imagining such, I could only come up with these two –
    “Sure. why not”
    “maybe. why do u care?”

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  16. “no I’m a lesbian”

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  17. or “DTF?”

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  18. My tried and true response “Only around the mouth and ass”

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  19. When there’s inner debate, always escalate:

    “ya…come over so we can be gay together.”
    “ya come over so i can come on u.’ wait a beat ‘i mean out to u.’
    “ya come over so we can cuddle in my bed and just talk.”
    “ya so we can have sex as just friends since im gay.”

    there is no downside to boldness.

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  20. “Does your mommy write your pickup lines?”

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  21. “Are you gay”

    Answer: Trying to a convert me?

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  22. “Where’s the fucking beach in Colorado you god damned whore”

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  23. I wouldn’t ask about a girls eyelashes although that’s a very weak shit test for (assuming the picture is real) a hot girl

    I think a simple, “nah.” is sufficient

    More complex replies

    “With my fashion sense?” when I want to be mock humble/funny

    or Sorry I am boringly unfashionably heterosexual, ” or waggle the eyebrows or use emoticon “but kinky” with some girls

    I could also use “nope, are you looking for someone gay.” for neg, implies she’s a fag hag of course

    or a cheeky “well if I was I’d still switch sides just for you for you.” if the convo has gotten that far

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    • “that’s a very weak shit test for (assuming the picture is real) a hot girl”

      i agree. it is weak but it isn’t uncommon. girls talk like this now. especially the young ones. sarcasm is the wit of fools but we are now living in a fool’s paradise. adapt or perish.

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  24. Also, third pic down in her profile gives a much better view of the falseness; it’s like Reynolds’ rug in “Malone”.

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  25. Or you could reply like this:

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  26. “I’m rubber.. you’re glue. whatever you say bounces off me and sticks *in you”

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  27. “That mannish w/o helper lashes?”

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  28. on August 19, 2014 at 1:11 pm Nods respectfully towards you

    “Suck my cock dude”

    Thats what i say when they drop the AYG bomb on me

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  29. Those aren’t eye lashes, they’re cum visors.

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  30. What app is that, in the original post?

    That doesn’t seem to be Tinder (or is it?).

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  31. I see that my reply was taken..

    Alternate take:

    I got into avant-garde fashion after seeing a miniskirt at a funeral.

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  32. the thing i’ve noticed about online game and girls who immediately turn negative on me is that — it’s over; sure, in real life, these replies work well… too well. online however, i’ve had different experiences. i myself usually can’t turn it back to a positive ever. all of the examples provided as a response are well put when in the right mindset. in this example whatever reply you say, she’s going to re-frame it in her mind “yea this guy’s a fag, lemme talk to all the other 1000 messages of guys offering me food & money & cunnilingus for hours.” if she would of responded something flirty, “haha how u kno dat” ; “u kno i j curl gurl” ; “c curl make ya holla” ; “dat kinda gay but made me laff” you would have just already put the tip in her m-o-i-s-t-n-e-s-s. girls who immediately go negative upon first response, just like girls in real life, have the biggest egos; but online, they’re most likely not to respond back

    the initial eyelash comment was good though for observation and testing the waters. girl is 5/10 would not cum in bellybutton

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    • on August 20, 2014 at 5:24 am grossermanitu

      Made the same experience. At the moment the vibe starts negative, especially at the beginning, the success rate goes down. All the lines work well with the right tone in your voice. Online, there is no tone and the success rate is much lower. You can increase chances with a smily. But, if you want to be congruent you dont use them.

      So best answer in this situation is. Nothing.
      -Go out and play game in real life.

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  33. “are you gay”
    answer: “I was told you could only get j curls at wallmart”

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    • The underbelly of the beast.

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    • 1. Just go to Ferguson with pockets full of cash on the money will find the right place
      2.-4. Meh
      5. I hope the next article is “My rescue pitbull bit my wifes face off, should I divorce her?”

      Fucking pitbulls…

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      • Which reminds me of the old joke:

        Long, long, LONG line at a funeral… a curious passerby sees the crowd and goes up to the man who is the obvious mourner, and asks:

        “Who died? Somebody famous?”

        “No, not really.”

        “Someone well-loved and popular, then?”

        “I wouldn’t say so… she was just my wife.”

        “Well, you look fairly young… how did she die?”

        “I have two rescue pit bulls… they just up and attacked her one day.”

        “Oh, sorry to hear that… (pauses, with a pensive expression for a moment, then continues)… say, (looks around conspiratorially)… you think I could borrow them dogs?”

        “Get in line.”

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  34. So is Tinder a viable option for people out there? I have intentionally avoided smart phones and social networking so I would be very reluctant to try it but it seems like actual reasonably attractive women are on these things. I know a few people who have found each other on some dating site and they are all very fat. Also, why would women even need to go on Tinder, it seems like men more or less find their way to these women anyways, what does an app do for them? Before you say it is to get extra attention, why weren’t attractive women involved with internet dating much before Tinder or say back in the 90’s when e-dating first started?

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    • I messed with it for a while. I bombed 20 girls in one day with nothing but emojis, a dial pad image and a question mark. Got 12 phone numbers without any text at all. One woman said “do you get whatever you want with that smile?” I said “a phone number has numbers, not letters”. She blocked me. Same line worked on 3 other grlz tho.

      I found it super easy to get digits, but I guess you gotta have good photos. Amazed that any of these hos gave me a number at all, nevermind most of them.

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    • click on my name — it’s my tinder adventures in motion from a few months ago

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      • love yer tinder game, same as mine lol

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      • Not sure whether encouraged or disheartened…(disheartisted?)

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      • Are you black?

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      • This is stupid. I’ve read your linked page, and you don’t need any tinder game. The girls had already made a decision based on your appearance/profile. Anything after that is just icing. Half the time you don’t even need to say anything to win them over. If you already realised that, then fair enough. But I think to assume your words are having the majority effect is a bit delusional.

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      • Are you black?

        DUH!

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    • It may have taken women a while to catch on, but now everything from a humpback to a royal knows they can access endless amounts of male servitude via “social networking”
      Game has never been more important.
      Most of these vapid bitches will turn on you in a heartbeat, so hit and run friend.

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      • I can’t agree- if you want to be inauthentic, games are fine. The problem is that men aren’t men anymore. They’re pussies with game who wear fucking feather boas. Can you really imagine a true alpha male prototype like Clint or Bogie used to play NOT tearing a man’s ass who is wearing a feather boa? They would say “fetch me a drink, sally” and the mfer would DO IT.
        All of these problems are because men aren’t being real men. American society is toxic because it’s filled with a bunch of 30-year old children.

        Learn to operate a chainsaw if you want to be attractive to women- men used to attract women by being frickin MEN instead of manicured pussies.

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      • Well-said, trav777… it does my heart good to hear another voice call out these sustained-adolescence metros on occasion.

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  35. lol @ little girl from Littleton, CO calling herself ‘beach_babe.’

    As if.

    [CH: this would’ve been an excellent non sequitur response.

    “are you gay?”
    “beachbabe? in CO? as if”

    now you guys are getting it.]

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    • “now you guys are getting it.”

      yes and no. “nice beaches in littleton?” was the first thing i thought too. riffing on the stupidity of her chosen handle will fly right over her empty head and it won’t get her juices flowing. geography is not the strong suit of any of these twats. once knew a chick from AZ that thought Chicago was on the ocean. NEXT.

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  36. I find it really funny that the OKC chick lives in Littleton CO.
    I’m only a few miles away.
    lol
    I probably chatted with this bich

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  37. Tinder doesn’t let you send pics. Sadly.

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  38. on August 19, 2014 at 1:32 pm The Burninator

    “Are you gay?”
    “No, sometimes I’m pensive.”

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    • This only works above room temp IQs

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      • on August 20, 2014 at 8:51 am The Burninator

        Yeah, I know, it is clearly target dependent. I do not text nor do social media so it was more for my own amusement than an actual suggestion on what line to come back with.

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  39. I am in fact gay, and it works like “game” on girls. I don’t act gay at all, so they don’t believe me when I tell them. They think it’s a game. It also makes me (mostly) uninterested in girls so they interpret that as a challenge. The weird part is I’m actually not running game on them, I’m actually a cocksucking homo of the highest order (I’m not even a top when it comes to that lol) but I guess it works on girls. (disclaimer: not bragging, but besides not having a whiff of de gay manner about me, I’m also handsome and very fit)

    So I guess you can go with it if she challenges you like this.

    [CH: it’s a big tent here at the chateau.]

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    • [CH: it’s a big tent here at the chateau.]

      Yeah, but we prefer the camel toes on the outside looking in.

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  40. Another CH blind spot. There aren’t many granted. The dude’s question was gay. Terrible opener. Rule #1 with women – don’t be a fag.

    [CH: stop sockpuppeting. stop concern trolling. and stop being dense. the point of the post isn’t the opener. the point is how to effectively respond to the girl’s reply.]

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  41. I think everyone is missing the true answer: Seriously, though, your pussy rocks!

    [CH: we laugh, but this reply would’ve been better than 99% of the supplicating shit that comes out of beta males’ mouths.]

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  42. why not mention other women? something like “No I learned it from a couple of my exes.” You could probably then lead it into talking about victoria secret underwear.

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    • something like
      “not gay. my ex wore fake lashes. always hated them. they don’t look as bad on you though.

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      • Or this. A neg/compliment.

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      • You know honestly, he shouldn’t even address the gay part (haha no pun intended)… it sounds better to just start that reply with “my ex wore fake lashes…” Don’t even acknowledge it. Still, some of the other replies would be better.

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      • “it sounds better to just start that reply with “my ex wore fake lashes…”

        good call. i can see how it would come off a lot stronger that way.

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      • That was my first thought as well. Eliminate the “not gay”, and up the ante with “One of my exes….”

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      • “up the ante with “One of my exes….””

        i see where you’re going with that. nicely done.

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  43. on August 19, 2014 at 1:55 pm AryanAbduction

    My suggestion: “Dated a few beards in your life, eh?” “Why, do you hate faggots too?”

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  44. He shouldn’t have asked her whether they were C or J curls. He should’ve just said, “NIce J curl.” You don’t really want to talk about her eyelashes so don’t lead the conversation that way. Open and move on.

    [CH: it’s also time for some of you commenters to move on from the opener to discuss the meat of the post: how to keep the convo going after the opener.]

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    • id have starting busting on her choice of photo angles in a selfie..ask her if she has a droopy left eye or had a stroke or something. probably tell her that i’ll still date a half a hot chick stroke victim but i’m NOT pushing her wheelchair so she better have one of those Hawking mouth thingies.

      then ignoooooooore……

      THEN…..hit her with something cute….like a fake ass ultrasound photo and tell her it’s my sisters latest baby pictures or a puppy.

      push pull works!

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  45. IF A GIRL EVER SAID THAT TO ME I WOULD END HER LIFE BY PUMMELING HER WITH SOME RIGHTEOUS FISTS OF EXTREMELY MASCULINE FURY THEN WHILE SHE WAS LYING ON THE FLOOR IN A PILE OF HER OWN BLOOD I WOULD PUT A BUN IN HER OVEN. FOR CLARITY, I MEAN THAT I WOULD LITERALLY STUFF A BED ROLL UP HER VAGINA. THEN I WOULD WATCH SOME TOM CRUISE MOVIES. BE CAREFUL NOT TO BE CONSUMED BY THE DARKNESS

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  46. Agree and amplify to shit tests. So the correct answer is:

    yes, i’m gay as a fruit bat, now show me your tits.

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    • i hope Burke sees this.

      it made me think of that story he told about his girl telling him to have a nice gay day when he did something with his buddies. this is what he should use next time she pulls that shit. with or without the fruit bat part.

      “yes, i’m gay, now show me your tits” would be just as effective and easier to say for most guys.

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      • i would pay to see the look on her face. if she’s an LTR girl and she’s saying shit like that, she thinks she can get away with anything. she wouldn’t know what hit her. it would be hilarious.

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      • and he might even get a look at the ladies

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    • Yeah, I was going to say roughly the same thing. “Gayer than AIDS, baby. But I am willing to experiment if you have any hot friends.”

      A quick insult to a protected class to show you don’t GAS about post-modern bullshit, and a disqualification of her.

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  47. His mistake was knowing too much about the details of eyelashes. Asking about C or J or whatever is a bad mix of beta tech-think and, well, I don’t know what. It’s like asking her if her car has electronic ignition. Tingle-killer.

    If he wanted to neg her eyelashes, he should have said:

    “Nice eyelashes. Are they from the Bambi or Minnie Mouse collection?”

    [CH: i agree. that would’ve been a better opener. but this post is not about the quality of the opener. it’s about how to handle a sassy girl in the aftermath of your opener.]

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    • on August 19, 2014 at 2:11 pm AryanAbduction

      Would recommend against negging (this is more luke outright insulting) online without emoticons, and even then think it is a horrible idea

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    • beta-tech think is a scourge!

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    • Always remember the fundamental law of interacting with a woman: Betas ax questions, Alphas issue orders.

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      • BETA: Blah blah blah…? J curl or C curl?

        ALPHA: Send me a picture of the real you, without the J-Curls.

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      • BTW, along those lines, the fact that she is axing a question, rather than declaring an observation, is mildly hopeful.

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      • NO HOPE [= “Alpha” witch]: gay

        SOME HOPE [= “Beta” supplicant whore]: Are you gay?

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      • So use the faint sliver of hope to reframe by issuing the Alpha command which you should have issued in the first place.

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      • SHE: Are you gay?

        YOU: No. Send me a picture of the real you, without the J-Curls.

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      • You could tell her that your scheduling secretary always opens for you, and that she doesn’t know how to talk to women.

        Or, better yet: “Sorry, that wasn’t me, that was my girlfriend. I wish she would quit stealing my phone.”

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    • “Have you heard of the butterfly effect? because you batting those eyelashes has caused a storm in my trousers”. On topic agree and amplify. Assless chaps don’t make a man gay.

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      • This is really a response to CH but it should be noted: All chaps are assless. Don’t ask me how I know.

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  48. Used often:

    “Sure, I suck one cock one time…….”

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    • “……it was coo, said nohomo after swallowing and my friend grab me a beer after. friendship initiation he said”

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    • Or with slightly different phrasing “y’know, suck cock just one time and you never live it down”

      the irony would be lost no doubt

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      • “the irony would be lost no doubt”

        yes it would.
        a girl who would respond to anything with “are you gay” or something of that ilk is of low character and probably very low IQ. true wit and humor are wasted on people like this.

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  49. “I like the curls, they make your chin look smaller”

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  50. Are you gay?

    “Yes, I’m a lesbian. In fact, I want to be a total DeGeneris with you.”

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  51. “Are you saying that if I wear a blonde wig and fake eyelashes, you’ll fuck me?”

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  52. Tillikum-

    If “accepting her frame” was automatically a fail, then agree and amplify is automatically a fail, since it accepts the proposed frame and then amplifies it to absurdity.

    You can dispute whether the amplification was sufficient or excessively subtle, of course.

    I’ll chalk up your grade as “aaand another low score from the Russian judge”

    And hunting who? Are you gay? I thought this was a bro forum, mostly.

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  53. Critique my TinderGame.
    HB7.5 :
    M = me
    H = her

    me: Hey tinderella. Any fun weekend plans?
    her: Yeah shopping and spending all my money.
    me: You good at acrobatics?
    her: Why do you ask that

    (couple of days later)
    me: Just getting an idea about your flexibility
    her: How much money is in your bank account
    me: What’s a bank account?
    her: Account where you put all your money
    her: In the bank
    her: Either that or under your mattress
    me: Ya I keep my stacks under the bed and count them every morning
    me: Can’t trust gold diggers. You know how it is.
    her: How much does it come to every morning
    me: about 45 dollars but I also have a jar of pennies. I have to try u out before I can judge you’re worth all that.
    her: Unless those pennies bring you up to fifty I don’t think I see a future between us
    her: sorry
    me: Wait my mom says I can only use 20
    her: I can’t even buy a pair of shoes with a twenty how will you fund my shopping spree.
    me: Stealing. Duh.
    her: Your mom is gonna get mad if she as to use the rest of your 25+ pennies to bail you out of jail
    me: I’ll tell her you did it. I look waaay more innocent than you
    her: You look like a natural born shoplifter
    me: Truly, I am wounded at heart
    her: Cause you got caught
    me: Okay shush and gimme your digits. I’m taking you out
    her: You’re gonna dine and dash but I’ll have to do the dishes. no taaaaaaanks
    me: Mcdonalds doesn’t have dishes. Stupid.
    her: My cholesterol doesn’t need to go any higher.
    her: too young to die

    ========

    I already have a few critiques of my own but I want to hear yours first before you’re (subconsciously) influenced by what I say. Be brutally honest.

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    • Short form: you created no attraction whatsoever. You stayed in her frame (re. money) throughout the entire multi-day chat. Money is, contrary to what is claimed by many, fundamentally unsexy and uninteresting to women. Your jokes about being controlled by your mother fell flat because they are the sort of self-depreciation that seem awfully close to the truth. Also, come on, bro, chicks don’t want to talk about your mother. No problem to claim poverty, however. Again, money = boring. In sum, since you created no attraction there was no way you were getting her number.

      Basically, it all sucks ass, but if you keep trying you’ll get better. Don’t agonize over every word or try to recite lines. Just have as many conversations with everyone as possible (dudes, chicks, kids, street people) and you’ll get more natural with your communication process and speech pattern and you’ll be able to use that to be more attractive to women.

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      • concur, briefly into the how much money interview, just cut it off with “eleventy billion” and then change the subject totally to something more interesting. If it doesn’t work OH WELL. Remember what coaches tell little leaguers, you can fail 2/3 of the time and you’ll be a HOF lock.

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    • on August 20, 2014 at 4:01 am Master Blaster

      Your a dancing Tinder monkey to her organ grinder

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    • All your money? Are you dtf

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    • Thanks for the feedback guys, will keep at it

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  54. “Wait, you’re not a tranny? Oops. Lulz.”

    (yes, butthurt & reactionary, I know)

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  55. Can’t believe you guys missed the obvious retort to “Are you gay?”

    Wanna find out?

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  56. If I knock them off during sex, I’ll be able to buy a replacement set.

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  57. RE your previous post on testosterone in men, I can’t speak to actual test levels scientifically, but the most athletic, muscular and sexy guys I’ve seen have been Brazilian, mostly of south Euro heritage with maybe minute levels of indio and/or black mixed in (at most 12-15% I’d guess, but frequently less than that or zero). Whether this is because of a culture of athletics/beach, widespread steroid use, or has some genetic component, I don’t know, but I guarantee you, as a lover of the male physique, that the place where you most frequently see impressive male physiques is in Brazil. I am talking of seeing one every two or three minutes, as opposed to seeing a great physique once or twice a day in the USA (Blacks btw are prone to obesity even among men, not just women. From my own experiences with blacks and from observing them abroad, I have to conclude that the supposed physical and sexual prowess of black men is mostly a myth made up by Americans for bizarre reasons. I say this without resentment, because in fact if black men were what they are advertised to be, it would make my sexual life much easier.)

    I think American white men could achieve a similar level of beautiful physicality as white and whiteish Brazilians, but in general they don’t because very few in fact work out, test use is still rare, and because they’ve browbeaten themselves into being beta. SWPL males also self-punish with marathons and vegetarianism. Among whites, it seems that Scandinavians and the Iberians have the most impressive men in terms of beauty and physicality. Scandinavians by the way will easily tan to a deep brown if they choose to.

    The problem with Asian men is not just the poor muscle tone and weak attitude, but also the smell. I am convinced there is something about the Asian male smell that is repulsive. To me at least, and maybe to girls as well. I am speaking of northeast Asians, mainly Chinese, as Mongols and southeast Asians are different.

    The most inadequate males sexually and physically are the Indian subcontinentals and the Central American Indians. While I make no rules about who to have sex with based on race, I can’t imagine a circumstance in which I would sexually submit to such a male. And I can’t understand women who do, or how these races manage to propagate themselves.

    I think Polynesian men would rank very high in all ways (physical, sexual, manliness, attitude) but they have been admixed with all kinds of other races and they are prone to obesity and dullness today. The historical description of the pure Polynesian upper classes by European explorers, however, make them out to be beautiful and superhuman, and occasionally you may still see such a specimen (maybe The Rock, although he’s also mixed with mulatto).

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  58. on August 19, 2014 at 2:55 pm travis Bickle

    “Yeah, butt with your deep voice and manly features, I could stand back-dooring you”

    “It’s okay, you’re pre-op. right?

    “If you f_ck him, he ain’t a man”

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  59. “Gay enough to fuck you in the ass”

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  60. Three year old/non sequitur game: “I’m gay and a half!”

    >

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  61. “Big Mike”? More like Big Momma Shaqueesha.

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  62. Her: “R u gay” You: cute. Keep it up I might schedule you for an interview.

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  63. I think I would have responded with “Yes, I’m a lesbian trapped in a man’s body”

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  64. I have bad game, but I thought, “Why are you changing the subject?” would have sufficed.

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    • The problem with that is that both you and her know you didn’t message her to talk about eyelash extensions. That would be weird.

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  65. on August 19, 2014 at 3:39 pm gunslingergregi

    on the gay thing I guess for you guys go from angle of she is anti gay bla bla
    she prob go on defensive

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    • on August 19, 2014 at 4:10 pm midnight toker

      yeah that would be funny.

      her: are you gay?
      me: why? do you have a problem with gay people?

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      • Have friend who does this technique well. He would likely follow with something like “would you like me less if I was?” Continuously putting her on defensive. It does work, and is especially effective with others around.

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  66. on August 19, 2014 at 3:42 pm Master Blaster

    Frankly, in my harem it never occurs to me to ask about types of eye lashes or to receive an are you gay message, she already knows better if she wants to rise in the pecking order.

    If its to possibly add her to the harem, well it would never occur to me to to ask about her eyelash type, but I repeat myself.

    Seeing this particular profile shot, I would say something along the lines of

    ‘Don’t you have a right side profile pic’

    …and go from there.

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    • on August 19, 2014 at 3:45 pm Master Blaster

      Left side

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    • MB:

      ‘Don’t you have a right side profile pic’

      [correction:] ‘left side’

      Your correction is literal and lame; the original is perfect!

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      • on August 19, 2014 at 5:55 pm Master Blaster

        acknowledged

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      • lol.. baller comment

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      • “‘Don’t you have a right side profile pic’”

        awesome. the jab will be lost on her but it’s still funny.

        plowing HBs with no brains and no real sense of humor is a letdown somehow. maybe beacuse if she got knocked up my son would be a moron. and they’re usually pretty boring in bed because the imagination just isn’t there. i would honestly take a well built enthusiastic imaginative 7 over a sarcastic fake eyelash starfish 9 any day.

        someone should make an app where the chicks have to be hot and pass a series of intelligence tests in order to join. sure there’d only be three HBs on there, but they’d be cherry.

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  67. “whoa youre a dude? you totally pass”

    or maybe just “whoa youre a dude?”

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  68. Whorefinder has an all-purpose, SUPER-neg reply to everything a chick says.

    And no, it isn’t “PA is a delusional gamma-commie liar.” But close….

    Guess….

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  69. “The white NPR race cuckolds who desperately want to move the Ferguson Narrative to “institutional racism” are having a very bad week.”

    I hope it leads to an even worse November. I know repukes are hardly better, but at this point our civilization is fighting for oxygen and every atom counts.

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  70. on August 19, 2014 at 3:55 pm midnight toker

    her: are you gay?
    me: oops, i didn’t know they let underage girls on here. never mind.

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  71. “Lol. Give me your number”

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    • As the sound of thunder crackled on the horizon….

      …..AmyButtox swiftly maneuvered to position her nostrils right in front of the blast epicenter of my buttox. Immediately following the blast of gas, she received :

      Epidermal exfoliation, to allow new healthy skin to come to the front.
      Moustache and chin hair removal – the heat searing it off.
      Teeth whitening from the ultrasonic vibrations.
      Deeeeeeeep aromatherapy (and I mean deeeeeeeeeeeeep)
      Hair straightening from the blast force.
      Blackhead purging from the tip of her nose
      Sinus and nasal decongestion
      A durable and exotic perfume fragrance that will last for days, both during the workweek and the weekend.

      She received all this for just $5000. A better deal, there is not.

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    • …then she goes “no”…then you go… but i love you more than anyone else….

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  72. (for women of a certain age):

    I’m fucking Ben Gay. Show me where it hurts

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    • The rescued damsel gazes wistfully at the charioteer as he rides off into the sunset and asks:

      “Who was that man in the pink toga?”

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  73. “lol”

    or if we’re feeling whimsical

    WHY WONT U ANSWER ME???

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  74. That is gayest fucking thing the dude could have written. Asking about beauty products and showing that you know the different between them makes you a king of fags. I can’t even defend him. I think she is genuinely asking if he is gay, not calling him gay as an insult.

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  75. “Not since I was a toddler” is my standard response to that one.

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    • on August 19, 2014 at 4:28 pm midnight toker

      dude. that better have been sarcasm. i get that you had stuff happen when you were a kid but you don’t actually tell girls that shit do you?

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      • on August 19, 2014 at 4:30 pm midnight toker

        victim game doesn’t seem like a big winner to me.

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      • I basically don’t talk to girls at all anymore, so not really, no. If at first you don’t succeed, try, try again. If you still don’t succeed, keep trying. If you still don’t succeed, start a woodworking project.

        I’m building a clock.

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      • Okay, that was moderately droll.

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    • i lol’d

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    • “Not since I was a toddler”

      toddlers make choices. a fetus not so much.

      “not since I was still a girl in my mother’s womb before the waves of testosterone rushed over my brain and i grew this fat cock and big set of balls. number, now”

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  76. “Why, are you a dude?”
    “Hmm, I thought your adams apple looked a touch large”

    Heh, dont know if those would be effective, but i sure amused myself.

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  77. I kinda like “I’m not gay, I just like the taste…”

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  78. I don’t even think that was a shit test. Just a legitimate question she had based on the guy’s question.

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  79. Her: Are you gay?
    Him: No, but if i was i’d definitely suck your d*ck. you’re pretty hot for a tranny

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  80. on August 19, 2014 at 4:52 pm Vice from SoSuave

    Most comments suck and almost immediately defy the frame of responding while a girl is servicing you. CH makes good responses but overlooks the tried and true “mom game”. The best response is “ur mom is gay” and leave it at that.

    You can also use this as an opportunity to show high value: “last gf was a model and i learned a few things from her”

    The best thing would be to show that you know they’re fake, but not to the degree that they’re J or C curls. Had to look that shit up. She might have been asking a legitimate question and not even shit testing, because the that talk about that stuff tend to enjoy the D…

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    • on August 19, 2014 at 4:59 pm Vice from SoSuave

      Also most of these comments come across as being defensive, especially when she could be asking a legitimate question. The responses given by the commenters are going to make her next you because if she was asking a legitimate question, you just indicated that you’re not secure with your sexuality. Which means you probably won’t fuck her good because you’ve got some weird issues.

      You guys need to get some experience picking up girls in gay clubs (as recommended by CH); you’ll get over the weird homophobia quickly. If you’re straight and cool with the gay dudes, they’ll introduce you to their girlfriends.

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    • Your mom jokes are a little dated

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    • agree…”ask your mom”

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    • Ask your mom? Her response: Mom thinks you’re a fag, too.

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  81. reply to r u gay

    you misspelt amazing.

    I’ve had wars with women after offensive openers and still got the date. as long as she’s texting back its all good

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  82. OKCupid & ‘text game’?
    Ouch.
    I know it’s bad out there, but guys…….

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  83. Her: Are you gay?

    Me: Oh…

    This is a total mind-fuck on every girl I’ve tried this on. It usually results in her qualifying herself or backtracking or some type of response.

    It’s ambiguous. It’s a variation of my “ellipsis game” text.

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  84. “Yes. I want to know what sex with a woman feels like”
    If she’s a dumb whore like 99% of the girls on tinder she will jump at the chance to brag about having sex with a gay man to her friends.

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  85. on August 19, 2014 at 5:45 pm gunslingergregi

    im just fucking around now
    told this chick that came by my chick just gives me an allowance now and does whatever she wants
    chick like what are you switching places with her
    im like yea I guess so
    she like she running shit around here now wtf
    I can’t believe I came back here
    I hate it here
    should of never left my boyfriend
    it was kind of fun
    I never told the bitch to leave her boyfriend or come here

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  86. Her: “Are you gay?”

    Me: “Why, does your boyfriend want me?”

    could follow up with “Is he a bottom?”

    If asked her question face to face, I would first just laugh.

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  87. “no, just a man of taste”
    “naw i’m just faaabulous”
    “no but your mom is”
    “why, are you lez? i ❤ threesomes"
    "bring da movies"

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  88. Man sets bride on fire, after he passes out on wedding night from heavy drinking, and she went and slept with her ex as “revenge”.

    http://metro.co.uk/2014/08/19/man-sets-bride-on-fire-after-he-passed-out-drunk-on-wedding-night-and-she-slept-with-her-ex-lover-4838440/

    I wonder how we should look at this from a RP perspective… Is killing a cheating bitch some sort of defense mechanism for not investing in bastards that are not of your own seed? Whatever the theory, it is clear this is NOT a good way to react in the modern world. The repercussions for murder are too severe.

    Interestingly, I know of a law case where a man was sentenced not to life, but to 10 to 15 years, and not for murder, but for wrongful death or some such, because he caught his wife cheating and in a fit of rage killed her (or the lover, I cannot recall). Also this man, according to the press, may serve 15 years. Apparently, even the courts, while in no way absolving the men of the crime, recognize that killing in a fit of rage over cheating (especially when caught redhanded, as in the law case I read about) is a natural (for lack of better term), if somewhat non-proportional (by modern standards), reaction.

    Disclaimer: I am NOT in any way pro-killing. But nature, as we know, is stronger than what we think is moral or not. We can only theorize as to the evolutionary benefit (if any) to such a reaction.

    I’m also thinking why are people stupid. She had nothing to get “revenge” for, and still went and cheated. Useless way to react. He should have just left her, not killed her. VERY useless way to react. Sad. Senseless. Stupid.

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    • voluntary manslaughter, bruh

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    • That used to be known as a crime passionnel.

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    • This just goes to show, and I’ve been learning this lately, that women are very sexual creatures and are hard to satiate. If you want to keep her you better learn to ravish her and avoid the whiskeydick and rope-pushing.

      Slept with a couple girls who have boyfriends recently and they all say the same thing: bf neglects her in the bedroom, he never wants sex, etc. They don’t cheat out of some evil desire to hurt their boyfriends, it’s not personal. They are just intensely sexual (all of them, even the prissy ones, maybe not Jewish women though) and if you aren’t giving it to her she will go get it elsewhere.

      [CH: men get bored with the same woman over time. that, plus the gradual aging and fattening that robs women of their sexual allure, are the biggest reasons why couples’ sex lives deteriorate.]

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      • [CH: men get bored with the same woman over time. that, plus the gradual aging and fattening that robs women of their sexual allure, are the biggest reasons why couples’ sex lives deteriorate.]

        that’s true and then the woman leaves telling everyone it was because her guy had no sex drive or wasn’t any fun anymore. she can’t admit to herself that it wasn’t his sex drive that was the problem. it was that she was an old, fat hag who made his life a living hell and that’s why he didn’t want to touch her anymore.

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  89. Does that still happen? I haven’t had someone throw the “G” word at me since middle school.

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  90. (Spiralina went to a few places I thought of as well, though I’d change the wording slightly)

    Are you gay?

    -yah with your mom
    -yep. bring da movies
    -only in prison, buttercup
    -yah i only came on here cuz my tranny buddy was looking for advice on extensions

    (P.S. I like the “beach girl in CO” neg the best.)

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  91. “Gay? I wish I was. I wouldn’t hang around on tinder.”

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    • In my old man opinion, any gal that dates through tinder isn’t worth any more concern than a f-buddy.

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  92. A wannabe alpha male asks a girl about her lashes. She thinks he’s a homo. There’s no comeback.

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    • it’s important to remember what we’re talking about here: “game.” It describes what it is. People who use game are not alpha- they are beta who are clever enough to pretend to be alpha. There’s definite evolutionary value in that. Some of those ocean-going cephalopods that can change colors and whatnot do this. While the alphas fight, the beta sneaks by camouflaged as a female and he goes and hits the pussy. Intelligence is a selective advantage.

      But if you wanna be alpha, then BE alpha. Get badass and kick people’s asses. You don’t even have to be nice, the herd bull isn’t nice, he just dominates. Instead of spending all of this time on the internet learning to PRETEND to be something else, why not invest time in stopping being a pussy, learn to fight, stop playing video games, stop twittering or facebooking, hell go skydive or learn to fly or acquire high SMV skills. This was what fight club was about, not game. You don’t need game when you are a badass, you ARE game.

      Try this on: go to a foreign country and walk around like a fucking American man, like a fucking CONQUERER. Believe it. Have the haughty air of superiority you DESERVE as a member of the dominant nation on the planet. Bitches will make themselves available to you. It is that laughably simple. And I don’t mean looking like Larry the Cable guy, like that kind of American man; be Neil Amstrong, have some class, get your shit together like that old pic of the unemployed lumber worker.

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    • > “wanna be alpha male ASKS”

      PRECISELY. Issue an order. Issue a hard neg. Issue an ejaculation in her birth canal. See to it that she issues you issue nine months later. But never ASK. Betas ask. Alphas issue. Never ASK.

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  93. i was explaining to a studied game buddy of mine, how i’ve subtly switched to lower energy game ala don draper. i believe this is more congruent to myself. the girl i’m squeezing isn’t so much as used to this – she’s been appeasing my frame at times, as i’ve usually been the one to do that (move the ‘seduction’ along).

    now, i’m not so sure that i care being a poor man’s hank moody. like i told him, i believe i’m congruent to the lower energy rather than high energy please-you! i’m turning 28 in nov with a new career on the way.

    this is what he said in regards to ‘low energy game’:

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  94. “A girl will instantly feel your behaviour change. She was designed to perceive males behaviour in order to survive 1000 years ago. Speaking from an evolutionary psychology point of view. Low energy is not a frequency women want to be around. It shows weakness and poor survival value on a genetic level for her. I don’t care what Hollywood portrays, it’s incorrect.

    You’re speaking to her DNA and she’ll move
    farther away the more you’re “low energy”…”

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  95. An aside.

    I may be late on this, by why hasn’t Heartiste done an article analyzing the perfect NWO white knight supermovie: Super (2010) with Rainn Wilson? This movie is deserving of at least one Chateau article in my opinion.

    Until the very end it’s pretty much a Superbad ripoff. You tend to wonder why they made it. Rainn Wilson is moderately funny, but half of that is his looks. His almost one-dimensional comedic talent certainly isn’t enough to warrant such an obvious re-imagining of Superbad. Therefore, initially, the movie seems a bit pointless.

    And then the glorious (or inglorious depending on your perspective) end comes. The end is what this movie is about. The end is the point, and I’m not entirely clear on what was intended. The way that I perceive it, there are two messages and they conflict. There is an overt message and an arguably covert message. Women will read different things into it, and so will some men. It’s a strange, complex effect in my opinion. Here it is in a nutshell for those who haven’t seen it (spoiler alert):

    Plot and overt message:
    1. Fugly prole beta male (Rainn Wilson) loses slutty, recovering drug addict, impulsive, and hot prole wife (Liv Tyler) to more dickish, interesting, risk-taking , somewhat powerful, and criminal alpha male (Kevin Bacon).

    2. Beta male becomes indignant in his grief, prays to god, and wonders why he can’t have the things that everyone else does. He soon has a literal vision that reveals that he has a destiny to fight evil as a low-rent superhero. It is revealed that his life has been before punctuated by visions, which could be interpreted to be merely the over-active inner daydreams of the beta male.Things are now morally black and white for the beta male, so much so that he cracks a man’s skull open with a wrench just for cutting in line. He also saves people from being raped, children from being molested, and people from being robbed; using clumsy brute force and mostly improvised weaponry.

    3. In an effort to save his wife, Beta male kills an entire gang of criminals through shooting, bashing, igniting, stabbing, and bombing them; kills Kevin Bacon, and in doing so indirectly stops Liv Tyler from being violently and forcibly raped by a criminal mandingo boss. The ape did manage to mangle her face a bit, though. She’s been strung out on what is assumably heroine for a while (injection scenes), and was being whored out by Kevin Bacon (who, remember, was also her alpha boyfriend). Beta male gets shot multiple times in the process. His partner in-crime fighting as half of her face blown away and she instantly dies. This is all to save Liv.

    4. As the beta male reaches Liv, she looks desperately into his eyes and apologizes as she kneels on the floor with her face battered. Curiously, though, she shrieks with terror as beta male stabs the alpha boyfriend to death. Beta male drives them both away from Bacon’s criminal lair.

    5. The final scenes progress quickly. These scenes are the entire point of the movie. Liv is shown stitching up beta male. A montage shows them gardening together, the beta male with his head in her lap on the couch, and the beta-male’s voice-over stating that she stayed with him for a couple (2) of months and then left and that he believes that she stayed with him for that long only out of a sense of debt. A cut scene shows him reading a Dear John letter.

    6. The next montage shows Liv at what seems to be a NarcAnon type meeting and the beta male voice-over rationalizing, with complete sincerity and acceptance, that she needed to leave because she “had unique things to say”. The cut scene audio has Liv saying something stupid about emotions, in the NarcAnon meeting, that only an immature girl would think was poignant. She’s then shown having nightmares in bed, and being comforted by the spooning embrace of a random, handsome alpha male. The next scene shows her posing with her four kids and the alpha male. The beta male voice-over rationalizes (paraphrasing) “if I didn’t save Liv, and if she had never left me for Kevin Bacon, those four kids would not exist”. The movie ends with the beta male holding his pet bunny rabbit (which he bought for company after Liv left him) in a run-down bedroom, with tears streaming down his face, looking at a wall of thank you cards that were sent to him by kids for his crime fighting efforts. His last monologue is nothing but stoic, unemotional acceptance of her place and his place in the world.

    7, The overt message to women, most of whom won’t bother to interpret anything as satire or read other covert messages, is that any type of disloyalty, impulsive prole behavior (drug use, etc), and whoring is acceptable if you are with a beta male. Remember, Liv’s ending is the only happy ending in the movie. Any path is justified as long as you wind up squirting out the kids of an alpha male in the end. The beta male could literally kill dozens of people to save you from being raped by a criminal nignog, and it is even his duty to do so, but that doesn’t matter in the end because, well, he’s still a beta (and he fucking was, goddammit, though I don’t know ho after all of that carnage). Oh, and no matter how much of a drug addled and demonstrably stupid whore you are, you still have “unique things to say”, beta’s should and will acknowledge that fact, and those unique things provide at least partial justification for leaving your husband.

    8. The overt message to beta men is that it is your duty, as a beta male, is to do what is right and dump resources into your woman (especially if she is hot), no matter how much of a classless whore that she is, and that you should nobly aspire to save her from the very hands of rape and probable death itself if necessary, but to not expect your social position to change for the process and to accept that the correct way for the world to run is for the hot woman to end up with the alpha male and for you to accept loneliness with as much dignity as you can muster (even if, privately, you sob like a bitch with your pet bunny rabbit in your lap in your bedroom).

    These messages are mostly directly implied by Wilson’s monologue in it’s endorsement of the ending , which is why I hold that they are the overt messages. The aspersions are my own, but know that Wilson’s monologue was, overtly, a sincere endorsement of his situation and Liv’s behavior.

    The movie ends.

    Covert message

    1. Despite Wilson’s apparent sincerity in his acceptance of his lot in life and Liv’s behavior, and the tacit encouragement of the audience to think the same way, the actual non-beneficial results of Wilson’s quest should be abhorrent to any man with at least one testicle. Wilson’s extreme sacrifice, and that of his partner, only bought him two pity months with Liv. She felt no compunction about soon leaving him and doing it via a Dear John letter. Wilson is sad, pathetic, alone, and an emotional wreck at the end. Tyler’s “unique things to say”, although seemingly sincerely presented, seems too outlandish for grown Hollywood writers to present sincerely. While I think that many people, especially women, would bite despite the triteness of her emotional ‘insight’ in the NarcAnon meeting, the reality is that her words were pablum. I think that the “unique things to say” rationalizing could have been a dig at the modern woman, and the overall ending could be a huge intentional lesson to the would-be modern white knight through imagery, masked for mass-consumption only by inconsistent words..

    Maybe.

    I think that the uncertainty makes the ending a bit brilliant, Although, I concede the possibility that I’m reading too much into it and the overt ending was the only intended ending.

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    • on August 19, 2014 at 8:51 pm gunslingergregi

      nice writeup
      drug addict will fuck over alpha beta omega
      it don’t matter lol
      don’t get a bitch in the states for permanent

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      • on August 19, 2014 at 9:05 pm gunslingergregi

        take that back to not get fucked over by a drug addict you would have to be superman he he he

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    • on August 19, 2014 at 8:56 pm gunslingergregi

      She’s been strung out on what is assumably heroine for a while (injection scenes), and was being whored out by Kevin Bacon (who, remember, was also her alpha boyfriend). ””””””””’

      it ain’t alpha to whore your girlfriend out
      maybe a bitch you don’t care about maybe

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      • on August 19, 2014 at 9:09 pm gunslingergregi

        but yea ya don’t have to whore out an addict and get that involved just drug deal much easier than pimp
        bitch will always bring you money
        I would say that is alpha
        I wouldn’t do either

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      • I said that she was his gf because that’s how Bacon spoke of her at times, but the reality is that she was really just a junkie whore that he kept around for his pleasure and for trade.

        However, let’s assume for a second that this relationship is what Bacon’s character considers a bf/gf relationship. That’s conceivable.

        According to transactional analysis (psychology), there will be at least two types of alphas. In archetypal terms, the first would be the batman / head of the household / hammer of justice type that would never pimp his wife because it would be a bad leadership move and would make him a bad person, even though he is completely in charge and charms her in every alpha way possible. The second would be the lex luther (I know I’m crossing worlds but the joker doesn’t quite cut it for this example) / pimp / bad boy criminal type who has a harem, not a wife (or is an anti-hero and cheats on his wife) type and thinks nothing of pimping his girlfriend (if a bad guy).

        A real world example: arguing about whether the head of a biker gang, who got there through being the baddest ass alpha amongst a lot of men, is alpha is an argument characterized by red pill community ‘ivory tower’ semantics. In the real world he’s an alpha, and he’s the type of guy that might pimp his ‘old lady’. The reality is that he doesn’t have a girlfriend like normal people have girlfriends, and that’s his alpha option.

        So, I agree, for one type of alpha, whoring out your gf would be uncharacteristic. For the another type, it is conceivably characteristic.

        Think of it this way: would a super-alpha caveman, with sexual access to twenty women in his community, think twice about trading one of those women for something else that he needed? If he did that, wold he be less of an alpha or more? One decision implies need of that individual woman despite losing something else that was in need, and the other decision implies abundance (albeit dehumanized abundance).

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    • on August 19, 2014 at 9:18 pm gunslingergregi

      7, The overt message to women, most of whom won’t bother to interpret anything as satire or read other covert messages, is that any type of disloyalty, impulsive prole behavior (drug use, etc), and whoring is acceptable if you are with a beta male.”””””””

      except that she did all that shit while she was with the what you say is the alpha male
      think about that
      when she was with the beta male she didn’t do all that shit right/

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      • She was disloyal to the beta, not the alpha, and stayed loyal to her alpha preference in the end.

        She engaged in the impulsive prole behavior as a way to leave the beta and to be with an impulsive prole alpha. When she later found the alpha family man, there was not indication that she continued with that type of behavior. It was implied that she was now a ‘good girl’.

        The whoring, technically, occurred when she cheated on her beta husband for the alpha, and then, again, at the command of the alpha (and it was forced). Later, when she found the family man alpha, it was implied that her whoring ways ceased.

        In summary, the shitty behavior always only occurred to either get away from the beta or to please the alpha (often both). She never engaged in any behavior that would have gone against or otherwise displeased the alpha.

        I recommend seeing the movie to clear up any subtle plot points.

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    • so, lemme get this straight, after murdering a dozen people, he still didn’t alpha up? it’s just not realistic- if you actually go terminator in real life and just let go of all of your fear that way such that you can clinically massacre in bunches, you will be awash in pussy. The definition of alpha is “I just killed your fucking boyfriend, BOW DOWN”

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    • “Curiously, though, she shrieks with terror as beta male stabs the alpha boyfriend to death. Beta male drives them both away from Bacon’s criminal lair.”

      Not so clear that she wanted to be saved in the first place. Captain Save-a-Ho, yer a chump.

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      • She pretty much didn’t want to be saved until she was beaten and almost raped by the large African. However, it was also clear that she was kept on heroine most of the time while with Kevin Bacon, and so how much of her eventual will was her own was left un-clear. What was clear was that she initiated contact with Kevin Bacon’s crew, while married, and was hanging out with them and doing at least lighter drugs like pot before she left Wilson. The viewer is left with the impression that she initially left to be with Bacon of her own will and, perhaps, promise of drugs, and eventually stayed because she was constantly doped up. I would conclude that she eventually didn’t like the addicted and constantly doped up state that she was at least partially controlled by, but she also saw it as better than being with the beta up until the time she was going to be raped by the African. After the threat of rape was neutralized, she soon again left the beta and found another alpha to be with (albeit an apparent family man type).

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    • “after murdering a dozen people, he still didn’t alpha up? it’s just not realistic”

      Breaking Bad was more realistic. Walt starts out a pushover lesser beta. He starts breaking laws and fucking people over in small ways at first, and his personality changes to eventually become a believable drug lord.

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    • I haven’t seen the movie but the Beta could have alpha’d up after rescuing her by beating the shit out of her for all she’s done, and then taking her back as his bitch. Women won’t forgive you for forgiving them.

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      • @PA “women won’t forgive you for forgiving them.” Yes. This is the message behind that chick who sucked 12 black guys off and her “boyfriend” reconciled with her. We all see this as his ego being too fragile to admit he chose a piece of shit as a girlfriend…

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      • WW: a long time ago a commenter here said that if you have sufficient alpha frame, you can turn even the worst whore into your sweet angel — but you have to be ruthless with her, up to and including whoreing her out.

        Gunslinger is probably right though, in that there is little hope in redeeming a drug addict no matter what you do.

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      • Or he could have just ignored and been a dick to her. That would’ve likely worked, as she was proven to like dicks (heyo!!)

        At one point in the move, Kevin Bacon explains to Wilson why he lost his woman to him by saying: “I’m more interesting than you”.

        So true, Alpha Kevin Bacon.

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  96. After she asked if I was gay, I would have been tempted to spurt outta my mouth something lame as “only for you” which is so lame and supplicant pedestal posturing. I’m learning fellas. So much to learn…

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  97. “Nope, our threesomes gotta be FFM.”

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    • That’s the right idea, but try to frame it to be more of a put-down of her existing boyfriend.

      “Nope, tell your pathetic boyfriend that my presence is not for the viewing pleasure of cuckolds. My threesomes are always FFM.”

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      • Dunno, seems wordy. Also my style is distinctly to not bring up boyfriends….

        Any event dude fucked up by talking about anything cosmetic-related. If I caught myself saying stupid shit like that I’d just pack it in for the night.

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  98. on August 19, 2014 at 9:06 pm Lurking Gorilla

    Very few of you are getting it, too bitter and gremliny, I can hear the nasally rage and see your curdled faces from here. Learn from the tone of Heartiste’s responses and try to bend your mind into that zone – that’s the zone that gets panties moist.

    Light, jokey, entertained, something as simple as “so that’s how it’s gonna be” is on the right track. Try not to focus on the specifics of the example in the post but on the message to be gleaned from it – girls will tease you and be rude to you and this is a shortcut that reveals your nature to them. Are you butthurt and defensive? fail. Tryhard and obnoxious? fail. Imagine someone like Hank Moody, drowing in pussy and how he’d respond. ““assless chaps don’t make a man gay” – watch a chick light up

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  99. You’ll find out after I fuck you

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  100. “What To Say When A Girl Calls You Gay”…

    GB : “Detox my Buttox”.

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  101. on August 19, 2014 at 10:19 pm gunslingergregi

    my bitch made 1200 dollars in two fucking days wtf
    there is a pay gap no question about it

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    • on August 19, 2014 at 10:23 pm gunslingergregi

      there is pay in the gap
      he he he

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      • on August 19, 2014 at 10:33 pm gunslingergregi

        night ain’t even over its fucking ridiculous
        and these bitches don’t have shit
        even more ridiculous
        woman are dumb guess why we have to be not working as team

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      • on August 19, 2014 at 10:41 pm gunslingergregi

        well I guess it don’t matter if they can always make loot
        men are dumb and just getting skullfucked from every angle

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      • on August 20, 2014 at 12:46 am gunslingergregi

        fuck she really is giving me an allowance
        jesus I’ve changed
        she finally broke me and got her wish sick bitch

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      • on August 20, 2014 at 12:48 am gunslingergregi

        when she tries to rape me i’m saying no I got to draw a line

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      • on August 20, 2014 at 12:53 am gunslingergregi

        put the blanket right up over the ass laying on stomach other night pussy looking at me
        I maintained
        I was like what you trying to do
        she covered up lol
        told her I don’t love her no more
        told her I took my love away from her
        she said i’m lieing
        I prob am

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      • on August 20, 2014 at 1:03 am gunslingergregi

        quote from Bronx tale springs to mind
        The saddest thing in life is wasted talent

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      • on August 20, 2014 at 9:02 am gunslingergregi

        its feels gay to be in that position
        got to see it for second not me
        fuck that
        not willin to go how it would work
        fuck a bitch

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      • on August 20, 2014 at 9:04 am gunslingergregi

        dam she mad rejected again
        she regressed two years in two weeks what the fuck am I supposed to do

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      • on August 20, 2014 at 9:08 am gunslingergregi

        ain’t fuckin another bitch in the states waitin till I get home

        I admit defeat in a way
        I could win the game I just don’t want to live that life
        I don’t want to be involved with that much bullshit

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      • on August 20, 2014 at 9:12 am gunslingergregi

        chaulk one up for the nig dealers they won themselves another white ho

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    • did you detox your buttox

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  102. One piece of beta-bait I still occasionally fall for is when a girl, who has a great body, utters empty complaints about her body. “I’ll never be as thin as her/I wish my ass looked like hers/She has really nice boobs…” etc

    If you try and reassure her it always backfires. Every. Single. Time.

    It shits me that I still fall for this one. This is such a hard trap to avoid for the logical male brain, probably one of the most dangerous shit tests of all.

    [CH: yeah, that’s classic beta bait. check the archives. there’s a post on this very subject. don’t reassure. agree & amplify works. so does accusing her of fishing for compliments.]

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    • god this gets me too, especially when i’m feeling nostalgic or sentimental.

      but i gotta say that its a really great reason to spin plates so you can just not act like a 100% asshole all the time. if you get soft and she falls of….it can be seen as a temporary gift, not a permanent curse.

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    • @Mr. Meaner…another piece of beta bait I got recently as a text from a girl was:

      “sorry I was rude (was late to respond or insert excuse here) but I’ve been in a bad mood these last few days”.

      I just ignore or just plough on with whatever I was texting about.

      Asking “Oh why?” I’ve found leads no where…and if they’ve said it…it usually is a way of turning you into an emotional tampon.

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    • agree & amplify does work. i was seeing this girl for awhile who had an amazing body and we both knew it. right after sex she said something about needing to lose some weight. i nodded my head and said yeah, you probably should. she wasn’t even irritated. she got this big grin on her face and then kissed me. i kid you not.

      i think she was actually introspective enough to know she was shit testing me and she was happy i passed. probably wouldn’t work out exactly that way on a girl whose a little insecure but this chick ate it up.

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  103. I prefer “joyful,” bitch

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  104. Babe, I’m the happiest man in the world. 🙂

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  105. “Imagine you got this reply while another girl had her lips wrapped around your cock. Really feel the moment” you are THE GOD. I think this is it. This is the Nirvana attitude or inner peace or whatever the heck you wanna call…

    GOing to try to answer every question with this state of mind.

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  106. Before joining the Chateau I would have took this serious. Now, I just laugh. http://thestir.cafemom.com/love_sex/175995/men_not_attracted_old%22

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  107. I need advice on how to pass a shit test from a beta boyfriend. Here’s the situation : I’m dating a girl who’s got a bf who “somehow” got my number and sends memessages such as “Is XXX with you ?”

    I feel like telling him to piss off but I hope someone here could suggest a subtle reframe. I could be bluntly honest and tell him that she is but I think she wouldn’t look as pretty with a tumefied face.

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    • Dude, you fucked up pretty bad here. This is why YaReally has burn phones and burn credit cards and burn SSNs and burn apartments for afternoon trysts. Welcome to real life – you’re not a keyboard jockey anymore.

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      • Too many variables to give meaningful advice. He could be a nutjob and you would need to immediately up the ante on your 2nd Amendment situation so that you have overwhelmingly more firepower than he. Or he might be into cuckoldry and he wants a threesome. Or he might be a totally righteous dude and the two of you eventually become brothers in arms. Just way too many variables.

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      • The only known quantity here is that she is a worthless good-for-nothing whore. So if you have the 2nd Amendment firepower to prevent any possible VaTech/UCSB meltdown on his part, then you could be totally honest with him: “Dude, all I know is that she ain’t worth the two of us killing each other over her. Wanna get a beer and watch some SEC football this weekend?”

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      • Not what I expected Zombie but thx anyway.

        I don’t live in the US so we don’t carry guns around here and he’s not a gangster AFAIK. I don’t smash people’s faces in often but sometimes I slip and I can also take a good beating so that’s not the point.

        I agree that the girl is not worth fighting over and I’m not planning to. I’d just like to get him to piss off my back without seeming butthurt and without AMOGing or chest-beating either.

        The thing is he’s very controlling or should I say mate-guarding. Calling her every 20 minutes or so when they’re not together and some crazy snooping. He doesn’t know for a fact that she sees me and doesn’t need to. He also doesn’t work which leaves him with plenty of free time to be a pain in the neck.

        I was going to answer with a “I don’t know you, why are you texting me ?”. Not classy but not entirely tactless either.

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    • on August 20, 2014 at 11:26 am AryanAbduction

      Just say no, get your bitch a collar. Yeah, it might cause drama, but whiteknight drama as opposed to Elliot Rogers drama.

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    • Just silence. Any response…ANY…will just open you up to more passive beta messages and threats.

      What’s the response when a girl talks about her boyfriend? That’s right, nothing. Same applies here.

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  108. on August 20, 2014 at 2:00 am pedro secondreceiver

    “busy…”
    “less questions, more tits”
    “see u at the sausage sizzle”

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  109. I probably would’ve gone with: “A little early to be trying to set up a 3 way.” Or perhaps… “oh god… you’re actually a man, aren’t you?”

    I understand dude was trying to set himself up with a challenge here. I personally would’ve mocked her BEACH_BABE screenname since she lives in COLORADO, about as far from a beach as you can get.

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    • > “A little early to be trying to set up a 3 way.”

      You could go with this angle, but you have got to frame it within a hard Alpha stance: “I take it your boyfriend is into the cuckoldry scene. That’s some pathetic shit on his part.”

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      • “Honey, I’ve crossed paths with you chicks who date the losers who are into the cuckoldry scene, and their boyfriends want to sit there and watch me giving it to them on the boyfriend’s very own bed. But that’s some pathetic shit right there. You need to get a higher quality of man in your life. BTW, in case you’re wondering, I’m also not into dating chicks who have a past history of having dated cuckolds.”

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      • on August 20, 2014 at 3:14 pm gunslingergregi

        yea could of made a 100 bucks fucking my bitch with some dude watching but yea that’s pretty gay
        some other dude wanted to pay to eat the cum out her pussy also pretty gay
        overall that lifestyle gay I guess
        if bitches run the world oh what a gay world it will be

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  110. I have a question. A girl I gamed apparently had a bf. I had gamed her and then I made out and finger-banged her. She was into it. We made out after that. I texted her to follow up to make sure she got home ok.

    But I’m getting the impression she’s been feeling guilty. She flaked on me the other week. I teased her saying “Find a way to make it up to me”. But she’s gone quiet. I haven’t followed up but was considering suggesting a meet up for drinks or something—as per normal.

    Thoughts?

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    • MOVE ON. And be a gentleman about it. Don’t ever kiss and tell.If she’s truly happy with her boyfriend, then let her be happy. KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT. Discretion is the better part of valor.

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      • With the added benefit that the radio silence will make you seem all that much more Alpha to her.

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      • > “was considering SUGGESTING a meet up for drinks or something”

        For future purposes [since this chick is already history]: Betas ask questions. Alphas issue orders.

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      • BETA: “Would you consent to allowing me to ask you whether you might be interested in meeting at Renee’s Hipster Cocktail Lounge and Tea Shoppe next Tuesday evening?”

        ALPHA: “I’m headed to Joe’s Biker Bar and Crystal Methamphetamine Shack. Paint your face and get your scrawny ass down there.”

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      • @Zombie chill dude…

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      • @Zombie well…interestingly enough. I texted her in my alpha way: “lets meet up Saturday” she said she would if she wasn’t working. I asked how her play was going. She said fine, then said she just broke up with her bf. It must have been after I finger-banged her.

        I said “Oh…sorry to hear”. She babbled a bit. I said “Ok” and “I know how you feel.” then I moved the conversation away from that nonsense to her upcoming theatre production… we chatted about something else and made plans to meet up when we were both free.

        Interesting to see hypergamy in action like that. Chick meets alpha dude. Alpha dude goes for the k-close and makes her cum. She dumps bf of several years.

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    • @walawala Never escalate hard unless you’re GOING to have sex. Otherwise it’ll be a challenge to get her back out again.

      I think YaReally said that.

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    • Beta’s finger bang, alphas BJ or fuck. male orgasm rules… Once they have gotten off, they retreat.

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      • @Hunter/Sentient— logistics made the full bang impossible. In any case, the girl dumped her long-time bf almost immediately. I just found out when I texted to go for drinks. She was up for it, then mentioned this. My reaction was perfunctory. I wasn’t going to cheer and I wasn’t going to ignore. “Sorry to hear” and reframe. I’ve had previous experience of when you put another guy down it actually has the opposite effect—they feel sorry for him. A neutral “I feel your pain” is enough.

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      • “Beta’s finger bang, alphas BJ or fuck. male orgasm rules… Once they have gotten off, they retreat.”

        no joke.

        i don’t know what it is with all the finger banging and going down on girls. a lot of guys on here have mentioned that and i think it’s an issue that needs to be addressed.

        getting blowjobs or a handjob from a girl used to be the standard if she didn’t want to go all the way.

        a girl would control the flow of events somewhat by refusing sex right away in hopes that she could avoid being a pump and dump or to avoid coming off as slutty but she still wanted to win you over and please you.

        i’m beta in many ways. i wouldn’t be on here if i wasn’t but hell, you can’t be letting the girls run the show like this.

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      • on August 20, 2014 at 11:23 pm midnight toker

        “Beta’s finger bang, alphas BJ or fuck. male orgasm rules”

        no offense walawala but i have to agree.

        logistics or not, you shouldn’t have been finger banging her. she should have been giving you a handjob instead.

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      • I think it is easy to explain. This validates the girl totally, she cums AND by not touching a dick none of this COUNTS… Her number is unchanged…. No slutty behavior from her…

        she tells her GF’s “we just made out”…

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      • and wala, don’t take what I was saying as any kind of criticism. None meant. Just an observation… Naturals will whip out their dick right away and take things from there. They are consumed with their own O’s…

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      • “logistics or not, you shouldn’t have been finger banging her. she should have been giving you a handjob instead.”

        exactly

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  111. Been saying for the past decade that Swedish males have crazy manboob issue. When i’ve raised this issue with Swedes I have got blank expressions. “Ja Sweden’s the greatest place on on earth hej hej hej. ” They also don’t notice ricketty legs.

    Now this…deformed penis epidemic. Who woulda thought it.

    http://www.thelocal.se/20140820/experts-puzzled-by-swedens-deformed-penis-trend

    http://sciencenordic.com/one-two-boys-develops-breasts…just like i’ve been saying. Oh, but its normal hej hej.

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  112. On a lighter note. Some of this may be attributed to the large amounts of candy Swedes eat each weekend. Grown men with a very big bag of candy, eaten on Friday nights. Seen nothing like it. Not very male to crave for so much sugar. Swedes will know what i mean. Godis.

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  113. Fuk what a gay thing to write as an opener

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  114. My answer would be: ur funny
    sans anything else it indicates she’s being lame and weird

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  115. The correct response to “are you gay” is “that’ so racist!”

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  116. In this case he has asked her a question and she hasn’t answered it. The correct response is “answer the question”.

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  117. Just to point out to this study about women now NOT wanting to divorce their loving husbands

    http://phys.org/news/2014-08-middle-aged-women-passion-sex-affairs.html

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    • All it is basically saying is this: women want to get an alpha on the side and keep the beta for provisioning.
      Only thing interesting is that this is getting more and more overt and will maybe cause a few men to wtfu

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  118. Girls don’t really say “are you gay” anymore. Now they say “are you whorefinder”

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  119. “Are your boobs fake too?”

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  120. Off topic, internet famous potato faced nerdette and feminist gets caught with her hand in the penis jar:

    http://kc-vidya-rants.tumblr.com/post/95004433478/zoe-quinns-kotaku-staff-cheating-scandal-and-how-she

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  121. on August 20, 2014 at 8:06 am lifeuniverse42

    “are you gay”
    answer : ” so you want it in your ass. I can do that”

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  122. 1) tl;dr

    2) well, I do like to eat at the Y…

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  123. So gay that even Boy George would yell faggot from a passing vehicle. #?
    I’m so gay they put my profile picture on the wiki page for gay. #?
    My gayness would make Perez blush. #?
    Already asking about sex… Buy me coffee first. #?
    So straightforward. #?
    I prefer j curls when I dress in drag. #?

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    • I like the non sequitur or reckless asshole approaches too, but agree and amplify works better if you want to later tease her about her inexperience and needing a gay guy to give her blowjob tips. Even if she’s a royal slut, she will qualify herself to you.

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  124. I just like eyelash extensions. It gives some women the rare opportunity to make their outer appearance reflect their inner appearance. Fake. So be a nice girl and #.

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  125. on August 20, 2014 at 9:51 am Charles&Friends

    “CH:it’s also time for some of you commenters to move on from the opener to discuss the meat of the post: how to keep the convo going after the opener.]”

    THIS.

    I’ve been on POF about five years now. When I first started.. it was all I could do to get a girl to even LOOK at my profile after I messaged her. Fast forward a few years (yes, years… didn’t know about CH at that point) and I can confidently say that 3 out of every 5 girls I msg actually msg me back!

    The problem I have is I can’t keep the convo going!

    Example–
    Me: You one of those girls that only responds to shit talk or are you gonna convince me you have a good head on your shoulders
    Her: well hey there! didn’t your momma tell you to be nice to strangers?
    Me: my momma told me to watch out for the crazies
    Her: makes sense 🙂 how’re you?
    Me: doin well, what’re you doin in (HER HOMETOWN) today
    -radio silence-

    and thats pretty much how each convo plays out… I know how to hook them, but it seems as soon as I ask a single boring question, they’re gone. Now I know I just solved half my problem right there… no boring questions… but are women really that averse to genuine conversation?

    Anyone with a few tips would be an enormous help.

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    • You gave her nothing to feed on. Instead of “What blah blah blah?” hook her in with a story. Sorta like the following.

      Her: how’re you?

      Me: Oh this is good. I just got back from a trip with my brother and the fridge in the RV caught fire. Not a huge one, just under the bottom of it. He was driving so I had to put it out. I grabbed the first thing at hand.

      Her: Fire extinguisher

      Me: A crowbar. So while he’s trying to get over on a busy highway I’m trying to beat the fire out with a crowbar…

      Now she’s hooked.

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  126. lasher

    help

    make-over

    can train… would swap tit for tat

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  127. Are you Gay? …. for u

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  128. “stop trying to convert me”

    “your flirting needs work”

    “why is your shirt ripped? you poor?”

    ^ These may be too challenging, even if she was vaguely in to you these responses could result in that COMPETITIVE BANTER vibe which ruins SEXY VIBES.

    “no but listening to you might turn me”
    ^ This one is challenge-y but more tease-y so it’s OK.

    “yeah I thought you might have a big honkin cock under that pretty dress”

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  129. I’m not alpha at all, but my real life response to that question has been, “If letting you stick a finger up my ass while you’re blowing me is gay, then, yes, I’m gay.” It’s surprising how many girls actually want to stick their fingers up my ass.

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  130. That aint Tinder

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  131. my Prime Bitch (1yr+ one-way open rel) calls me a faggot all the time. she knows i’ve always got something cooking on the side so she never stops throwing curve balls. its a pretty ace way to stay sharp. some of my choice throwbacks:

    when we’re alone:

    shut up bitch or i’ll slap you (her: is that a promise? 🙂

    its true, you better straighten me out with a killer blowjob

    a faux effeminate ‘oh you’ wrist flap + eyeroll then pay attention to something else

    when in company the domestic abuse line is still pretty good but i prefer to elbow the nearest observer, and say as a loud aside: ‘i’ll sort her out when we get home.’, maybe while giving her a mock sideways look and holding up the back of my hand as if to pimp slap her. she can be expected to pipe up with ‘is that a promise?’ and a really sweet smile.

    this shit shouldn’t work, but it does. just make sure you don’t actually domestically abuse your partners, even if they want it, lol.

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  132. Are you gay?

    There’s only one way for you to find out. Come over. We’ll either be picking out “window treatments” or “f**king like bunnies”.

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  133. Only on weekends and holidays, 9am to 10pm.

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  134. […] Some elements of game are deliberately antagonizing, because pretty women have natural social shields that need to be penetrated before a courtship can have a chance of succeeding.  […]

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  135. Her: Are you gay?
    You: Pansexual. I want them for my dog. Shes a real sexy bitch.

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  136. Go for honesty:

    “I only wish!!!!”

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  137. “Holy eyelashes, Batman! What have you been feeding those things?”

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  138. only online

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  139. “yeah im trying out this new vagina thing. apparently it’s the shizz”

    if convo has aloof alpha quality and she’s even slightly interested, she’ll start qualifying herself

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