The Seductiveness Of Teasing

Check out this short video of a Turkish ice cream vendor teasing a cute girl’s panties into a Bartholin’s steambath.

Can’t shirk the Turk!

Things to note:

This is obviously a routine that the guy has mastered over the years plying his trade in creamy goodness. I bet the ratio of female to male customers who are the lucky recipients of his schtick is 10:1. Lesson: Practiced Game routines work.

She is squealing with delight. In women, delightful squeals are prelude to dirty arousal. The Frozen Turk’s act is the physical manifestation of the push-pull game tactic. Lesson: Teasing girls works.

Ice cream Ishtar here is performing for this girl. He is a DANCING MONKEY for a cute girl. That’s right, a DANCING MONKEY. And guess what, beta nerdos who pretend to be too good to work for a girl’s romantic affection? The dancing monkey has a much better chance to get the girl than the bitter loser standing against the wall sneering at the high-flying flirty action passing over his one man island. Lesson: If you want the cute babes, you have to put in the effort, one way or another.





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  1. on October 12, 2015 at 2:26 pm elmer t. jones

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  2. One of Roosh’s more depressing posts was the one he did about six months back about how he is a clown, and a very good one. Because that is what women want.

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    • I am a travesty sometimes and wanna transition more properly to girl, i am really taking notes on here about that chicks want : )

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    • women don’t want to be bored. they don’t care if you are a clown (unless that’s all you got and you are upset)

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    • Women are children, like you guys didn’t know that. I say the most stupid, outlandish shit and these broads giggle and kino to their vagina’s beat.

      For my own amusement sometimes I’ll break the hilarity with a serious question like, “What’s your opinion on the nature of boredom?”.

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      • I was seeing this girl who was apparently going to school for IT shit and claimed to be “fascinated by how humans interact with computers and technology.” I asked her opinion on technological singularity in the near future. Blank stare. Coupla blinks. “I.. Don’t know.” was the (slightly annoyed) reply. Yeah, you’re real fascinated, bitch.

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  3. Yes: as a PUA blogger said, the Unemotional James Bond style is one of those things that work well on paper, but not in real life. Every guy I have seen who has been good at pickup has been warm, smiling, showing that he is part of the group and liked by all.

    Good video. This ice cream vendor demonstrates something I often say, that joining something where you are the center of attention is good practice for game. I am an organizer in a hobby activity where we have a lot of people coming and going, to a large degree because of the nearby university, so I constantly have to explain things to new people in a limited period of time before we begin. And there are always things to deal with, big and small. You learn to think on your feet, to adapt to people, to lead, to be the one people watch and listen to. Being the “situational alpha” is great practice.

    I have used that venue for dating, but only to a limited degree. If people notice that you are using your position in order to hit on young girls the word could spread fast. You want to test the waters in a way that gives you plausible deniability; suggesting that you meet privately should be something that is sneaked into the conversation as a natural part of it.

    Just one example, I once steered the conversation toward fashion and asked a girl there if she’d want to go with me to pick out a new tie, and she said yes right away. An unusual activity for her, it’s easy fashion advice to give, and you are done quickly so you can have coffee in the same mall afterward. Of course she knew I could pick out a tie by myself. But being alone together in a changing room on the first date, with her adjusting your tie – yes, that works. (In this place they had some ties for you to try on, which is why I went there.)

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    • on October 12, 2015 at 2:50 pm elmer t. jones

      Decades ago there was a book advertised in the back of men’s skin magazines titled “How to Pick Up Chicks”. My brother had a copy so I read it. The main point was “smile” and “talk to her”. Made sense as most men scowl or adopt tough-guy posturing yet are terrified of actually approaching a woman.

      [CH: talking is a must. smiling is negotiable. too much smiling will look appeasing and supplicating to women, so split the difference and opt for a smirk.]

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      • on October 12, 2015 at 2:51 pm elmer t. jones

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      • on October 12, 2015 at 3:14 pm mendozatorres

        I love the cover to that book.

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      • on October 12, 2015 at 3:14 pm mendozatorres

        I do talk, but I wonder if I’m too talkative. I do enjoy the sound of my voice. Also, I like having an audience. See what jokes play well. If my thoughts match reality.

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      • tough guys “posture” and scowl when they aren’t tough.

        tough guys who are….smile……(rarely).

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      • on October 12, 2015 at 7:37 pm Captain Obvious

        > “too talkative” ——— This can be a huge problem, especially if your IQ dwarfs hers. Chicks love to talk about chick shiznat [like your observations of Group Dynamics and EvoPsych within her social circle], but if you start getting talkative about the 1960s Ford Mustang that you’re restoring, or your past mathematical investing insights which helped you to navigate your way through a particularly crazy period in the stock market, or why the .308 is a better round than the .30-06 [or vice versa] and especially the latest totally awesome Hickok45 video about it on j00tube, then you’ll lose her attention in just a few words.

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      • That book cover doesn’t look like America….anymore.

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    • Once again, you are correct….from a beta mindset.

      Remember young one, people act how they can. This is a post for other betas, like yourself, you should preface that

      Gonna see Mitchum do this shit on Underbiter Island?

      come on man.

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      • Otherkin… Orca.

        I respect your inner and outer body shapes through the lens of my cis-gendered heteronormative privileged occidental worldview.

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      • Aww, the tilicum troll shows up again. Note how the omega incel never has anything to contribute, no experience, no knowledge. You see how he says zero about my post? Because he just copies and pastes the SAME THING over and over again. LOL He is too dumb to write anything other than that. Poor old loner.

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      • Lol, your post is infected by your limited worldview. It’s not that you are wrong you just aren’t learning very quickly so its smarter to help unfuck that than try and argue your 50% logic.

        I get that you are a really angry dude, but is my explanation helpful for you?

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    • “… asked a girl there if she’d want to go with me to pick out a new tie, and she said yes right away.”

      This only works if the man is attractive.

      [CH: if by attractive you mean charming, charismatic, overconfident, and suave, then yes you are correct.]

      It’d never work with a toothy nerd or sweaty fat kid.

      [never say never. a nerd with game >>> gameless nerd.]

      It’s like compliments. Women LOVE compliments if they come from attractive guys.

      [not really. obsequious flattery is off-putting to women from any man, unless the woman in question is already fucking the man within a relationship.]

      They’re repulsed by getting a compliment from an unattractive man. If he’s hot, a “you’re pretty” gets her juices flowing. If it’s an ugly or fat guy, “you’re pretty” makes her think “ewww, stalker”.

      It’s a hard truth that the number one rule in attracting a good looking female, no matter your so-called “game” is don’t be fat or ugly.

      [jack nicholson is now fat and ugly but still has harems of young cuties in his company.]

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      • Another game denialist troll… not even good work. Tedious.

        Women love compliments if they come from guys they are attracted to and are repulsed by getting compliments if they come from guys they are not attracted to.

        There you go, that reads better. You could also reverse women and guys and it would be correct. No one likes compliments from someone they are not attracted to.

        Do try to get out of the basement once in a while Kevin / Doug / whatever your name is now.

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  4. on October 12, 2015 at 2:43 pm Laguna Beach Fogey

    I suppose this works better for swarthy mystery meat than for cool, dignified Nordics.

    [CH: the dignified nordic version of teasing would be less reliant on props.]

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    • The Vikings were swarthy mystery meat.

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    • @Laguna
      I wanted to tell you before that i was in your neck of the woods recently..stayed in that hotel across from the Montage (very good place to stay..prob good place to pick up women too from what i saw). I was with a gf..was a good time…beautiful state park/ beach below.
      Anyways, one night we are driving south back to the hotel along the pac hwy right alongside some 50-something dude in a lamborgini. We kept side by side for 5 or 6 blocks then we came to a crosswalk. 12 or so people of different groups were crossing and one late 20s attractive chick was crossing with i guess her date..average guy, AFC looking. So she’s crossing and sees the car and freaks out. Her overreaction/excitement was kind of surprising..this is California afterall. I swear to God if the driver had opened the door for her she would have jumped in. I studied her date.. he was trying to keep a smile on his face under the circumstances. Poor bastard. The guy in the lamborgini was just laughing. My gf hardly noticied anything.
      Well judging by the real estate prices, the hot women in the grocery stores etc., and her reaction, hypergamy is still alive and well there.

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    • Turks are mystery meat?

      [CH: the term mystery meat should be reserved for the spawn of interracial couplings. i suppose one could call turks mystery meats if the long sweep of history is the relevant context, but as the term is used today in modern parlance turks would be just another caucasian-ish ethnicity.]

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      • I work at an international College and whilst most Turks are brunette with olive skin there are some Turks with red hair and freckles. Then again this Turkish girl at my school looked almost Asiatic- yet they say Turks are a race. Bloody confusing. Some Turkish birds are hot though

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      • on October 12, 2015 at 9:31 pm Sean Fielding

        Asia minor may well be the poster child for an area that has seen a huge variety of races come and go over the years. There are major elements of ancient Mediterranean farmers, Aryans like the Hittites, ancient Greeks and Persians, and even Celts in Anatolian Galicia, Semitic Phoenicians and Assyrians, and of course the relatively recent Turkics themselves. And many more.

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      • Not mystery meat, but definitely swarthy.

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  5. People don’t realize how important this is especially when you are still in a relationship. The art of teasing, takes a certain confidence and cleverness as well as wit to achieve properly but when done right can be seductive.

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  6. A little bit of kino and that deal would be sealed.

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    • on October 12, 2015 at 3:05 pm mendozatorres

      I wonder how kino came to be used in the way it is used. Did someone think of this during a 3am revelation in Vegas passing by a kino bar, then saw some smokin’ hot gal, grabbed her hand out of reaction/instinct and when he tried to remember a name for the act, kino was all that came to mind?

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  7. He’s not a dancing monkey for the girl; she is the monkey for him.

    Girls liked to be dominated and made a fool of.

    If some vendor tried this on a man, a lot of men would get pissed off at being demeaned and yanked around.

    [CH: good point. still, he is working for her tingles. men work for the attention of women, women work for the attention of men. it is the way of the universe.]

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    • agree.

      deep down they know they are pretty dumb and are happy to have the right guy show it.

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      • Note how the tilicum troll never has anything to say. All the old incel does is spew hatred over women because he hasn’t talked to one in decades. You can imagine what he looks like, sitting there fat and lonely in front of his computer, shivering with hatred as he reads about people who have actual social lives.

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    • Agree… he’s not a dancing monkey… he’s an entertainer with a very specific skill related to his livelihood…

      Not some wannabe PUA dork peacocking and wiggling… than is, showing his ass in public, merely to get attention from some cooze.

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      • Our Ice Cream Man learned his craft the same way any natural or PUA did… he tried it, got a response and then honed his actions over many repetitions. It’s a feedback loop Greg. You of all people should appreciate the spirit. What with thinking it up and doing it and all…

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      • Well, yeah, I’m guessing he probably dropped a few scoops, first time out.

        /chateau already gots a Cap’n Obvious 😉

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    • He’s treating her the way her father did, showing her the toy, hiding it, handing it to her, yanking it back, peekaboo, peekaboo..

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  8. […] The Seductiveness Of Teasing […]

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  9. on October 12, 2015 at 2:57 pm Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

    I cream, you scream, we all cream for ice cream.

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  10. “Can’t shirk the Turk!”

    Right on, bro.

    Fun fact: this particular type of ice cream and the whole routine was invented in the place where my family hails from. It’s one of the main things we’re known for. True story.

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  11. on October 12, 2015 at 3:03 pm mendozatorres

    I remember watching it the first time around. The guy’s having fun with her and seems to never stop, all the while she’s loving it. Good stuff all around.

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  12. on October 12, 2015 at 3:07 pm Captain Tautological

    Donald Trump: Merkel Insane, Predicts German Riots Over Migrant Invasion http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/10/donald-trump-merkel-insane-predicts-german-riots-over-migrant-invasion/

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    • on October 12, 2015 at 3:09 pm Captain Tautological

      VLADIMIR PUTIN: TELL YOUR DICTATOR PRESIDENT HE CAN GO TO HELL ALONG WITH HIS ISIS TERRORISTS AND I SHALL MAKE SYRIA INTO NOTHING BUT A ‘BIG STALINGRAD’, FOR ERDOĞAN AND HIS SAUDI ALLIES http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3347554/posts

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      • on October 12, 2015 at 3:15 pm Captain Tautological

        Dudes on Uber-Trad-Conn Free Republic are now screaming for “Trump/Putin 2016!!!” Events are moving extraordinarily rapidly now, very similar to July of 1914 or August of 1939. I just hope and pray that the Eskimos don’t maneuver events so that the USA shoots down a Russian plane, or vice-versa. We don’t want to be getting into WWIII with Putin, we want to be exiting [or severely punishing] “NATO” and creating a “NPTO” with us and Russia and Japan.

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      • on October 12, 2015 at 3:17 pm mendozatorres

        Instead of Archduke Ferdinand, it’ll be Franz Ferdinand.

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      • on October 12, 2015 at 3:18 pm Captain Tautological

        If it’s actually true that Vlad the Bad invoked the memory of Stalingrad regarding what he intends to do to Turkey and Saudi Arabia and ISIS, then sh!t just got real. “Stalingrad” has a very special meaning to the Russians.

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      • Captain, do you trust Putin completely though?

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      • on October 12, 2015 at 3:22 pm Laguna Beach Fogey

        Cool. I can’t see Putin talking in all caps, though.

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      • on October 12, 2015 at 3:31 pm Captain Tautological

        Vicky, Putin came out of the KGB, so he knows PsyOps like the back of his hand, and he is more than smart enough to Game us Trad-Cons with fake stories planted to appeal to our sympathies. But Putin is also maneuvering himself to be the worldwide Defender of the Faith – the title which e.g. the English King once took seriously. I wasn’t around for August of 1938 [much less July of 1914] so I have never seen events move so rapidly in my lifetime. And you just know that the Eskimos will move aggressively to milk every last drop of iniquity out of this budding teat of uncertainty.

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      • Well you do make some good points. Very difficult to get the full, real story of what’s going on, or what to believe, but I suppose that’s how they want it.

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      • “If it’s actually true that Vlad the Bad invoked the memory of Stalingrad regarding what he intends to do to Turkey and Saudi Arabia and ISIS, then sh!t just got real.”

        Bullshit. Stalingrad was a real war. This is just Erdogan surreptitiously sending help to those people. A Stalingrad is impossible because there isn’t enough going on.

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      • on October 12, 2015 at 4:37 pm Captain Tautological

        It’s precisely how they want it – we’re all in the dark while e.g. Eskimo Sidney Blumenthal is maneuvering H!tlery Rotten Cl!tless into rubbing out Moammar Qaddaffi for the Eskimos and then running Qaddaffi’s guns out of Benghazi and through Turkey so as to create ISIS and wipe out Aramaic Christianity once and for all? Those are Jesus’s people whom the Eskimos are trying to eradicate. And today the news is that Barry Soebarkah Odumbo is gonna confront the Chinese vessels in the Mediterranean? This could result in WWIII, or at a bare minimum, it could result in rapid re-alignments of huge blocks of nations.

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      • << and wipe out Aramaic Christianity once and for all

        Aramaic Christians of the Galilee have a VERY high rate of voluntary enlistment in the IDF. Aramaic-Christian high-school grads have ==the highest== percentage (of all population sectors in Israel) of entering Hebrew-language universities.

        Aramaic & Hebrew share the same alphabet.

        The distance between Aramaic and Hebrew, is (linguistically) smaller than the distance from Chicago English to New Zealand English.

        A Justice of the Israel Supreme Court, is an Aramaic Christian.

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      • We can safely call bullshit on the Vlad/Stalingrad threats. If there is one thing about the Russians (and especially Vlad), they speak diplomatically and with quiet logic. Look at his recent speeches/statements, and he is very presidential.

        When they have to TAKE ACTION it can be very brutal. But there is no threat posturing that ends up being an embarrassment. That’s more what weak arabs and jews do.

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      • Captain: “I just hope and pray that the Eskimos don’t maneuver events so that the USA shoots down a Russian plane”
        Unconfirmed Reports…

        “TURN SYRIA INTO A BIG STALINGRAD” – At first, I took this as a “threat” to clean up grafitti and street crime.

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      • on October 13, 2015 at 1:15 pm Mandy been here a while

        I love Putin but I just know he is going to break my heart

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    • One of you talented photoshoppers should redo this video with Trump as the Ice Cream Man and Hillary as his customer.

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    • And when the Muslims wipe out you crackers, black man gonna be ridin’ high in the saddle!

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      • Lol, more like the black man will clean camel dung for the rest of history. If you didn’t realize, white people are the only one who have been magnanimous towards your silly kind.

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      • t-h-w-a-c-k thinks the US’s “Black Muslims” and their veneration of Elijah Muhammed (sp?) is going to cut ice with the Real McCoy Islam of the Arabs.

        File THAT one under “It Seemed Like A Good Idea At The Time”. lzlzozlozlo

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      • Consider the simple fact that as many black slaves went to the Ottoman Empire as went to the Western hemisphere. Yet there is no genetic trace in Turkey of them today while there are hundreds of millions in the Western hemisphere. You do the math. Blacks are as well off with Muslims (who are still running a slave trade in East Africa) as YKW with NSDAP.

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      • Heh. Eunuch’s gonna eunuch.

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  13. This is awesome. But what would your step by step be for the Turk closing the deal? How does he (in this case) get from the goofy schtick to the seduction?

    “Hey baby, that was fun! Let’s go for a drink some time!”

    That would fall flat, it seems to me. He’s already gotten from A to B. How do you get from B to F?

    (Ps – I know that wasn’t your point of this post. Your last paragraph is spot on and instructive. I’m just trying to see how the Dancing Monkey pivots to the seducer. I admit, I can’t see it without him coming off as begging for it since “I made you laugh, etc.”)

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    • Easy… Hand her your phone. “Put your # in here.” Even better. Hand her your phone in the ice cream tongs.

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  14. As a half Turk and have travelled to Turkey I can honestly say that Turkish guys are the masters at picking up chicks. Because Turkish women are very frigid and want to marry before sex, these guys fully had to master the act of pick up just to get laid in their younger years.

    As I don’t live in Turkey and don’t have any access to their social circles, it’s incredibly hard to get into bars etc in tourist destinations in Turkey otherwise I’d be swimming in punani while out there. I need to make some better friends when I’m out there next time.

    I’m going to solo next year for a weak, break into one of their social circles and bang away with British Swedish sluts.

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  15. This is less clown and more magic. He’s in control, he decides when she gets the ice cream, and she’s interacting and not merely sitting back judging the way most men’s clown routines go. As an old girlfriend of mine put it, “Bitches love magic.”

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  16. The dancing monkey argument is used by people that don’t know the female version of it. Once you’ve charmed that girl with your mating monkey dance she then is susceptible to her side of the male/female relationship. Being a slave to your will. Having her cook, clean and shine knobs is the female version of being a “dancing monkey”. I’ll gladly crack a few jokes if it means I can get a nicely seasoned steak and a blow job.

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  17. I like to tease girls by slapping them in the face with my dick.

    Foreplay rape!

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  18. Only a total sperg idiot who has NEVER interacted with a real live woman believes in the “aloof stand offish asshole” approach. Any dude who has spent 10 fucking seconds or more trying to pick up knows…BUSTAMOVE is the essential element. I don’t care what you do, get them laughing, get them engaged, tell dumb jokes, wink, be egregiousiously inappropriate… Something… Just fucking do SOMETHING!!! Point to your crotch and follow it with a few eywbrow wiggles…anything.. Wallflowers get ass chafe… That is IT… Christ just be different from the average pants pissing scardy cat..

    [CH: 100% truth.
    fyi, for the trolls about to emerge from their hovels: BUSTAMOVE doesn’t mean you should never be aloof and indifferent. A&I is more of an attitude that is reflected in your style, your teasing, and your lack of concern for offending girls. there is a time to be aloof, and there’s a time to bring some energy to the table. all aloof all the time makes jack a spectator to the pickup action happening all around him.]

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    • It would seem that if a guy is talkative, playful etc, that when he withholds that and goes aloof, the girl figures out quick she’s done something wrong. My natural demeanor is teasing, sarcastic, fun loving etc. One time at work, I just brought a book in and read it, ignoring by female coworker. She wanted to know what was wrong and why I was “being different”.

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  19. A virginal gamma who criticizes a sexually successful beta for gaming is ridiculous as a cuckold who sneers disdainfully at his wife’s paramour for being try-hard.

    For most of these men, I believe it is a pre-emptive sour grapes protest. If these guys thought that aping a sexually successful man’s actions would lead to their own success, they would certainly attempt it.

    What the naive cargo cultist hopes to achieve, the cynical gamma fears failing at, hence the embargo cult.

    Gameless dudes might be shocked to find out that they are not part of the demographic discussed in hand-wringing articles about marriage strikes.

    But maybe it does ease the sting a little bit to reframe the game as “marry, fuck, picket.

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    • “Gameless dudes might be shocked to find out that they are not part of the demographic discussed in hand-wringing articles about marriage strikes.”

      Brilliant.

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  20. I’ve never understood the idea that entertaining a girl is lowering yourself, though. If I want positive energy from her, I have to be willing to put some positive energy in. Only the most alpha of alphas can thrill a girl by their mere presence – such as celebrities or rock stars. The rest of us have to bring something.

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    • The expression “entertaining a lady” is time-honored… and it NEVER connoted acting like a dork just to get a laugh or attention.

      This guy has a unique skill, a bit of a magician with his legerdemain…

      … unlike the orchestrated wannabe PUA videos that are usually touted.

      It’s an important point… and NOT a matter of opinion.

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      • on October 12, 2015 at 7:26 pm mendozatorres

        Well said, GE.

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      • So you are saying this guy was born with this skill? Like he never saw anyone else do it, then tried it out, practiced it, got reactions from the crowd and then used that feedback to further develop his timing and routine? Wow that is rare… who knew?

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      • on October 13, 2015 at 2:52 pm mendozatorres

        I think what GE’s comparing the man’s natural act, granted, one honed over time, versus some guy try-harding the same and falling flat on his face.

        This vendor found something he enjoyed doing and has fun entertaining women as opposed to other guys orchestrating this solely as pick-up act.

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      • Thanks, mend-man… I thought my point was obvious.

        Sentient, you have a bad habit of seeing shadows where none exist. I have no idea how you got “born with this skill” (as in never practiced) from the comparison I made to this guy and some of the douche-chill PUA videos that have littered the chateau.

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      • Yes sir. It means having conversation, it means taking them places, feeding them, showing them new things or otherwise partaking in some activity, or having them observe you partaking (ideally in a competent fashion) in some activity. Don’t be boring. Girls just wanna have fun. And you’re not “putting on a show” or acting in any way. You’re enjoying yourself along with the company of a female who is along for the ride with you.

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    • I’ve never understood the idea that entertaining a girl is lowering yourself, though.

      It is to loners like the tilicum troll, who hate women for not going anywhere near them. They hate hearing of normal people who know how to communicate with women. The social circle they could never be a part of. In their minds they turn ordinary life into a twisted thing. Note how they have tons of time to be online because they have nothing else to do in their lives.

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  21. Having fun with a girl is a bad thing! Who knew?

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  22. I’ve seen this type of ice cream guy and had the same sense…brilliant game. Spiking attraction….then pulling away. But what’s interesting is she only starts chasing AFTER she has an attraction for the cone…but there is a limit to all this before she’ll give up on the ice cream and go for a hot dog instead. Important point about over-gaming.

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    • “but there is a limit to all this before she’ll give up on the ice cream and go for a hot dog instead. Important point about over-gaming.”

      exactly what i was thinking. you can easily go overboard with this stuff so you really have to have a good sense of how a person is feeling about the interaction.

      same with the gag where the girl tries to get into the car and you keep pulling ahead so she can’t get it. a couple of times is funny, more than that and she’s ends up pissed and not talking to you for the rest of the night.

      girls like to chase but only when they think the prize is still within reach.

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    • >> she only starts chasing AFTER she has an attraction for the cone

      She chased it because she had already paid for it.

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  23. it’s a great opener, but you can’t play the kids bday party clown forever. (though i suppose you could tie balloons into dildo shapes)

    [CH: no of course not. no one said otherwise. but as far as openers and attraction building go, this is pretty good teasing game.]

    girls panties come off when she feels the c-o-n-n-e-c-t-i-o-n tingle. maybe this guy can seamlessly transition to that, but he looks like one trick pony. it’s extreme opposite of Bond game.

    tight game is feeling/assessing your target, then dialing in the right moves. you have to drop the gimmicks and get real close to do that, regardless of your preferred style some schtick is good but it’s only the start

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  24. The Seductiveness Of Tazing

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  25. Trump swats away a shit test from a semi-cute redhead (video in link):

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3269718/Trump-gives-young-feminist-brush-equal-pay-abortion-going-make-good-job-happen-pro-life.html

    I wonder if these types of attacks will fade when they realize he never gives an inch, or if they’ll just keep shit testing him.

    Her phrasing on abortion is funny “do I get to choose what I do with my body?”. Of course sweetie, you get to choose who nuts in you raw. On that decision, I am firmly pro-choice. But we can’t talk about that part, because clearly you just wake up pregnant after a night with Chad, there is no cause and effect, right?

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  26. Report all anti-Columbus day posts on fagbook as racist.

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  27. Hell just froze over:
    http://www.businessinsider.com/playboy-magazine-will-no-longer-feature-nude-women-in-its-print-edition-2015-10

    [CH: rebranding move in a post-internet porn world. it’s just the last wheeze of print nudes before final expiration. (still gonna miss it. playboy at least made an attempt to photograph the female nude with an eye to traditional aesthetics.)]

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    • so it gets to come down from the cellophane top shelf and rebrand as a carbon copy of Esquire or Rolling Stone. Retarded. They’ll take a revenue hit and be back peddling flesh within a year.

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  28. Dancing Monkey Boy is venue dependent. The venue is the missing link to this issue.
    DMB is not a prerequisite for day game at a Starbucks given that most gals do not have their guard up. A bold confident conversation may be all that is needed. You can over-game here as I have done.
    Night game, clubs/bars is very different. Women expect a show and are ready to shit test. You have to bring your best CH game.
    Different game for different venues.

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  29. For a long time I have been confused about this “Dancing Monkey” idea. And the angst the idea of being a “dancing monkey” causes some men. I mean I get what a beta would say, “you are performing for a woman so she is in control”.

    But now I understand – an alpha or a man in demand is NOT dancing for THIS woman. He is dancing for ALL women. An alpha does his routine, dance, approach not for a particular woman. He hones his act for ALL possible women. And thus reaps the rewards of being interesting and having abundant options.

    All these MGTOW guys don’t get it. We don’t practice dancing to perform for ONE woman. We practice our dance for ALL the possible women we will meet.

    It’s like a peacock. He spreads his feathers for ALL possible mates not just the one or two that may be close. Peacocking or any male display is not about performing for a particular woman. It’s about performing for MANY woman and picking the best option.

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  30. A couple of thoughts: On the Dancing Monkey thing – I think we’ve got a consensus here, but I’d add that the way I look at it is “Are you having fun?” If you are, and if you’re generating fascination, frustration, and maybe just a little bit of obsession and impatience in the object of your torment performance, then who cares if anyone thinks you’re a dancing monkey? You’re still further along than the person who asks “Do these jeans make me look fat?” or “Do these card tricks make me look insincere?”

    Secondly, on this idea of avoiding “James Bond Game” – sure, Bond as a brooding, stoic loner is no good at all as an example for how to attract women. But there are several facets to Bond’s character. Remember that scene in Casino Royale where Bond strolls into the game room of the Ocean Club and joins the poker game? He radiates friendliness and warmth. That opens the group at the table, which leads to him winning the table (literally). If you’re going to be Bond, be that Bond. Not the Bond crawling around on a rooftop somewhere with a silenced pistol and an enemy dossier.

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  31. Did anyone notice that the ice cream is halal. Halal ice cream is where it’s at

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  32. Golden article.

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  33. […] The Seductiveness Of Teasing | Chateau Heartiste […]

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  34. @Corsair
    “but I’d add that the way I look at it is “Are you having fun?””

    Therrrrre you go. Was scrolling through the comments looking for this. This is the key: self-amusement.

    The Turkish guy isn’t entertaining her, he’s entertaining himself. Look at his face. The fact that she’s jizzing her short-shorts is just a bonus. That’s the difference between a dancing monkey and a self-amusing. Self-amusement is attractive, dancing monkeys are not.

    A lot of the guys who spout the “PUAs are dancing monkeys” are guys who don’t know HOW to amuse themselves around women, often because they are socially conditioned into thinking they should take themselves seriously like James Bond (when really most of James Bond’s clever lines around women are him making himself mentally chuckle), or are guys who don’t feel they have permission to amuse themselves around women (ie – they think to get women they have to focus their energy on her and what she wants, not just fuck around making themselves laugh), or are guys who are outcome dependent and think “but if you don’t focus on what SHE’LL be entertained by, you might not GET her!!!! THEN WHAT LIFE IS OVER!!” or are guys who simply don’t like themselves and don’t know HOW to make themselves laugh because they’re, overall, not really enjoying life.

    It all comes back to “I don’t do it because it’s cool, it’s cool because I do it.”

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    • @YaReally this is where enjoying the banter is vital so when a girl does get a good line in you don’t view it as the defining shit test…you can say “oh…you are competitive…that did make me laugh…keep trying”… or some such.

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      • If you’re doing it right you don’t see shit tests. What is a shit test to one guy is a possible point at which she decides to bang another man. If you know what you’re doing, they are just laughing and smiling the whole time. And you are too, in a self satisfied way, partially laughing at your own caddishness and partially at her, and she digs its. The ability to enjoy oneself authentically is essential to gaming a girl. Most of them can see right through a fake or charlatan act who doesn’t even enjoy it much less believe it himself.

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  35. That teasing is a skill the vendor developed for customers in general, not just to pick up girls. Nonetheless, chicks dig wizards, and knowing magic will get you laid faster than just about anything.

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  36. Dirty secret: old women like this, too. Always use these tactics with gatekeepers such as rich widows.

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  37. I’seen this guy in myself. The video was shot in the touristy Clark Quay district in Singapore. It’s near a good tapas place called Octapas. He does do it with some men, but not for very long like this chick. Children love it, of course.

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  38. at first glance i thought that was mattress [email protected] girl in the video.

    turkish ice cream cone [email protected]!

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  39. Roosh recommends clown game and then we read stories about how girls love dangerous, bad boys types like the Joker theater shooter. Is there any way to merge the two or is it one or the other?

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    • GREAT QUESTION!!!

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    • Listen up. Maybe some of them like the bad boy type as you described it, if you are actually are that. Bad boy just means a guy that does what he wants, when he wants and has complete confidence in himself. It doesn’t have to mean a macho, tough, badass, brooding, dangerous. That is but one, very cliche, manifestation. Bad boys have power over women because they have abilities, size, strength, talent, status and power over other men, which in turn enables you to be confident in yourself and your place in the world. Your behavior and demeanor reflect that confidence unconsciously. Women (and men) pick up on that confident behavior innately as it signals the presence of those abilities, talents, power, status etc. (Size and strength signal themselves). Bottomline is that people unconsciously seek and filter for quality in all its forms. Bad boys have it, which enables them to be “bad”, i.e. to do what they want relative to other people or get benefits others don’t. It doesn’t have to mean literally a bad person or “badass” or dangerous or brooding in the traditional sense. You can be a bad boy of chess, a bad boy of the local kite flying club, or whatever universe you want (though some universes are more attractive to girls than others). Clown game doesn’t mean actually be a clown and certainly don’t make a fool of yourself just to appease or entertain someone else. It just means be funny and/or interesting, have a reason for a girl to pay attention to you (as opposed to another guy or their phone) whether it’s your gf right in front of you or a group of giggling college girls. It’s ground in the very true premise that girls hate being bored.

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  40. People that think having Game means “never trying to impress a woman ever” are only tangentially correct. It actually means “impressing a woman while giving the impression of calmly not trying.”

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  42. YaReally, Sentient, HABD, Wala, et al

    New double FR from yesterday – a date and speed dating (Part 1 here and Part 2 in next post)

    1. Drinks with a 28 year old HB7.5. I’m no longer messaging girls on sugar daddy sites, but this one actively messaged me and suggested a drink (set off a gold digger red flag but her profile was okay) so I said yes because I was free earlier in the evening before speed dating anyway. Turns out she wasn’t an explicit gold digger (ie for cash/gifts), but a good time girl looking for a Provider to show her around town.

    So in that light not much I could have done anyway with that handicap, but I figured I may as well as try to turn it around for practice. Similar issues to before – the sexual attraction/chemistry was never there. I did some laser eyes and slow speech but not much and I did quite a lot of talking about sex but in the absence of the other two it didn’t achieve much. She LITERALLY put a cushion between us on the couch so it was quite hard to cut distance and get in her space as YaReally said a few days ago – I can see the importance though – once or twice I got a bit closer to her face and the vibe was VERY different for a few seconds.

    I didn’t even try to kiss her in the bar – the vibe totally wasn’t there and she was too far although there were a few minor IOIs (she touched my arm and legs once or twice). Conversation was okay. She drank quite a bit and ordered bar food (another gold digger tell).

    Anyway, towards the end when I was fully locked into Provider mode (I can break out of this on most of my sugar dates, but I fail about 25-30% of the time – typically with the HOTTER girls because I’ve not yet built up my entitlement and Frame enough to take on theirs and be more dominant with them) and she started talking about how I was good company and “nerdy” but fun etc and we should go out for dinner (Beta orbiter/Provider alert!).

    What I found fascinating was that even the hot 19 year old 7.5 I banged a couple months ago (and posted here) ALSO called me a nerd. Similar reasons – I wear glasses and some of my interests are a bit geeky (comic books etc) that I am passionate about. But even though the WORDS were near identical, the 19 year old was already massively attracted, snuggled up to me on the couch, stroking my leg, and calling me a nerd as a shit test which she WANTED me to pass. Yesterday’s girl was the opposite – she was condescendingly patting her beta orbiter on the head when she said it..

    I did grab her and try to kiss her when we walked out on the street afterwards but it was a lost cause – too incongruent and she pulled away hard and said she doesn’t kiss on the street or something. And just before I tried that she asked me for the cab fare home. I know I shouldn’t have given in but my frame crumbled a bit in that moment as I was *just* about to try kissing her. Atleast I didn’t give her as much as she wanted..

    Nothing major here – partly my frame and dominance wasn’t strong enough and I never put her in the defensive crouch, and partly she had pre-categorized me as a Provide ranyway. but still interesting.

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  43. YaReally, Sentient, HABD, Wala et al

    FR Part 2 – Speed Dating

    Another speed dating event – my first in about 6 months.

    Had some good advice last time from Sentient and HABD and my goal was mainly to focus on lasering, slowing my speech down and maintaining EC. And sexualizing if possible but not worrying too much about results. Also, HABD’s tip from last time to sit down and wait for the woman to speak first – I managed that on most of my 12 “dates”.

    It was pretty good actually. No idea how many matches I’ll get on the online system when it opens on their website, but it probably won’t be reflective of real attraction because they might change their minds even if they liked me on the spot.

    The quality was relatively average (one or two women who literally couldn’t hold a conversation for 3 mins too) but a few decent ones. One who really liked me and was desperate for me to ask for her number but I didn’t like her.

    Overall I hit my goals I think. I refused to get drawn into boring chat and with most of them I sexualized by telling them a guy had been thrown out of a previous event for talking dirty or saying I was a gigolo or something and they loved it. And I did okay at lasering and slow speech but need more practice – quite hard across a table when I can’t cut distance. Didn’t try holding anyone’s hand – it’s very quick to do that in 3 mins. There were one or two women with whom I felt enough of a vibe to do it but the “date” ended just as I was about to and I didn’t get a chance to.

    We’ll see how the results come out, but overall I’m fairly happy with the practice I got. I’m happy with the conversation topics too – I think a similar conversational script is fine (in fact, I could convert it to a good script for sexualzing pretty much any bar/singles scene scnario). I just need to practice more with the lasers/EC/slow speech/cutting distance. And then escalate.

    Given the dire wingman situation I have, I think I’m going to be speed dating more.

    Oh and walking out of the speed dating venue, I had a good open with a cute early 20s 7 by teasing her about wearing gloves in October. Then the light changed, but it was a nice feeling..

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    • Culum –

      Why force yourself into sub-optimal situations? I get you saying well this is just practice (with the GD and speed dating) but you are still practicing on a tilted field.

      That feeling you had with the girl on the street – you could be doing that for two hours instead… and building real attraction you can work off of. Just try to do cold approach whenever you are out.

      You in NYC?

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      • Thanks Wala/Sentient.

        Speed Dating update: 5 women out of 12 have entered their prefs on the online system so far. *Three* have said yes to me, including the one who obviously wanted me to ask for her number at the event (plus one more for “friendship” who may be convertible into a bang..). That’s one of my best results ever in Speed Dating and when the rest of the women enter their prefs, it will only get better.

        So I think I’ve made quite a lot of progress compared to the last speed dating event back in February or so when all you guys gave me advice. This is what Game is supposed to be like – do FR, get advice, apply advice, and results improve, so thank you.

        In this case, I basically did what Wala suggested here – I sexualized harder and earlier (even in the 3-4 min “date”) and focussed on body language/EC/laser. It’s new to me. I know I’m good company generally and good socially but it’s only now that I’m starting to get a feel for sexualizing an interaction so I don’t get friendzoned.

        Wala – that lion tail bite pic was great, plus I’m gonna try the 50 Shades question thing too..again, it’s one of those lines that works well not just on an actual date, but even in a bar/singles meet situation..

        Sentient: I take your point. As of today, my paid sugar daddy membership has lapsed, so I can’t even reply to GDs who message me first. That crutch is gone. The speed dating’s not really a tilted field though. The quality isn’t that great, but it’s a great way to practice opening and building attraction with 10-20 women in 60-90 mins..really racks up the volume and numbers. Sure it’s less spontaneous than a street or club open but it’s genuine enough.

        I am also slowly starting to do daygame solo…largely with situational openers (Ie, i don’t stop a girl and tell her I think she’s hot) .I’ve done it by fluke a few times but never really gone out on the streets looking to approach, so starting up now. Today I walked round for a bit..thought about opening an early 40s MILF standing next to me, got distracted for 20 secs by my phone, then looked up and locked hard EC with her – she was pretty much giving me the “slut eye” EC from last week’s CH post. By then the light changed and she rushed off and I was kicking myself.

        OTOH, I struck up a conversation with two cute early 20s girls..one a HB7, another HB8. They were waiting for their Uber and both of them responded with very well and engaged..then I was teasing the HB7 about being in a fight (she was on crutches) and she was laughing and the vibe was great when their Uber arrived..

        And from a couple weeks ago, the very first day I went out daygaming (from my notes – not sure if I posted it here):

        “First time today..walked round busy downtown office area – stepped into shops etc. Quite hard to get into state and do anything, but I hit my target of two openers (one was literally an old lady, but hey – when the AA is kicking in). The other was a pretty mid-twenties HB7 looking at a shelf for ages in a bookshop and I made her laugh by saying “So much choice..so little time” and got in some solid EC too. Didn’t continue the conversation..

        Two other women – both HB7s – one walks past me with solid EC and a big smile – to the point where I was wondering if there was something on my face. Another HB7 stops me as I was literally walking into a store in the mall and asks me for directions to some place she could have found herself if she’d just looked at the map on the wall behind her. Didn’t do anything with them (the reflexes are not there and need to be learned) but clearly the IOIs are there..”

        It’s early days yet but I’m slowly training myself that there are IOIs and windows everywhere and I need to take them. And they are EVERYWHERE. Last week I was in a hotel, just unlocking my door (the key card was temperamental) when a cute late 20s HB7 literally runs down the corridor past me to her room in heels (she looked a bit flustered like she’d forgotten something and come back for it even though she was late)..and despite that, she actually saw me looking at her, slowed down her trot as she passed me, smiled, waved and said “Hi” and then rushed past me..I’m just not used to such strong IOIs (and I’m really not that good looking or anything..a 7 max), and I was so surprised I couldn’t even get a response out, except to smile at her (was just a fraction of a second too late to comment on how fast she could run in her heels..thought of it just as she got into her room, a few doors down).

        (I’m not based in NYC, but I do quite a bit of my gaming there, yes, depending on my travel schedule. Was also in San Fran a couple months ago but that wasn’t as good – girls not as attractive for a start. Not been to LA for years..need to find some work reasons to go there..and have never been to Vegas which I really need to get round to doing..I wanted to try and make it for Rollo’s Rational Male conference thing but couldn’t manage with work.)

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    • Culum. I think you’ve got to get into the mindset of escalating. When I started getting bolder with girls my success with women improved. I still do get nervous but that’s because I realize I haven’t sparked enough attraction and I’m already getting over-invested.

      When you get that feeling, slow down. It sounds to me like you’re game is good but won’t improve until you start adoping a bolder mindset. Don’t worry about being rejected. It will help you get better at identifying IOI’s.

      The routines: three questions, three smiles, the Cube are all great for starting conversations. But they only work if you can start sexualizing.

      “What was your favorite part of 50 Shades of Grey?” is one of my questions. It sexualizes, its bold but there is also plausible deniability when the girl starts shit-testing…you can then start with the “do movies make you uncomfortable?” “Shall we talk about Frozen instead?”

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  44. Yeah but he still doesn’t bang her and probably few other girls (if any), especially cute young ones like her. At the end of the day he’s still a 35 year old ice cream vendor. Even if he owns the cart it ain’t happening.

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