Spot The Super Alpha

An interesting (because of its rarity) social hierarchy dynamic sets up when two or more established, socially proofed alpha males break bread. In this older photo, all three of the men engaged in conversation at the table are alphas. In fact, all three are super alphas when they are separated and holding court in their respective milieus.

But by the nature of male hierarchies (and the zero-sum sexual market in which such hierarchies operate), only one man in this photo can be the super alpha. The King of Kings.

Jack Nicholson. Warren Beatty. And of course The Trumpening. Two notorious womanizers, one serial monogamist with superb taste in wives. All three have been featured as topics at Le Chateau (as real life exemplars of alpha maleness, and as movie characters illustrating the behaviors of alpha males).

When one gains a view to the very highest reaches of the alpha male secret society, the distinctions that mark one alpha male as less or more alpha than another alpha male are subtle ones, indeed, but nonetheless most people will be able to perceive them, because displaying male status, and possessing the means to judge it, are universally hard-wired into humans, (the former obviously in men, the latter in both men and women).

To be sure, this photo is just a snapshot in time, but working with what we have one can make a preliminary assessment of the three men’s relative alphaness. Nicholson, cig insouciantly dangling, drink in hand, slightly disheveled, listening with a neutral expression. Beatty, speaking, pointing, head cocked jauntily, wearing sunglasses indoors, possibly looking in Jack’s direction or downwardly (hard to tell). Trump, the best-dressed of the three, turned towards Beatty and leaning into him a little, perhaps trying to hear him better, somewhat hunched posture, attentive expression, but not too emotionally invested (no smiling or raised eyebrows, etc).

VERDICT

Trump is not the super alpha. Not at this table, during this particular interaction. Now, today, if the three of them got back together, and given the change in their statuses from then to now, Trump would no doubt be the Kingliest of these three Kings. But not in this photo. Here he is try-hard in his efforts to not miss a word that falls from Beatty’s lips, and his body language betrays an eager earnestness to fully engage the two celebrities.

Nicholson is not the super alpha. Not during this precise moment captured in time. There’s really too little to go on to accurately assess Nicholson’s place at the table, given that he’s in a receptive pose (hearing Beatty speak) and has a mostly neutral body language and facial expression. He is leaning back in his chair, and that is usually an Indicator of Supreme Alphaness (ISA) when in the company of mere mortals, but this scenario is not a gathering of mere mortals.

Beatty, at this table at this moment, is the super alpha. Pointing while speaking is a classic alpha male tell, and doing it to two other alpha males makes it a super alpha tell. Beatty also appears not to look Nicholson or Trump in the eyes while he speaks, preferring the air in front of his face as an audience. But he points at Nicholson and sits straight in his chair, so his lack of eye contact is incongruous with his body language, which suggests an invulnerable lack of concern with either of his guests’ opinions of him.

I open the floor to competing interpretations. Spotting regular alpha males or beta males in the wild is easy; picking out the super alpha from among a crowd of alphas requires a better grasp of the contextual currents that envelop and carry along the scene.

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Reader RIP Lemmy comments,

I’ll bet who was The Super Alpha went back and forth between the 3 of them.

He’s right. Check out this photo taken maybe 30 seconds before or after the photo posted above (and likely by the same photographer).

Here the reporter with the yellow legal pad is not part of the scene. None of the reporters are. The Three Alpha Men are talking among themselves. Now Trump is doing the finger pointing, while exhibiting a body language that is more self-possessed (facing forward rather than leaning in, open and dominant instead of closed and unsure). Beatty slouches a bit while watching Nicholson attentively. Jackflash flashes that panty-dropping grin he’s famous for while being obviously entertained by something Trump is saying to him.

REVISED VERDICT

Beatty is not the super alpha in this snapshot. Jack might be since both men are looking to him, but dat sweet sweet finger jab is the unmistakable air punctuation of the super alpha. WINNER: TRUMP.

Which is to say, when you have a Brass Supper of three apex alpha males, no one man will occupy the Lord’s lectern for long.





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  1. I picked Trump. He appears to be ignoring Beatty and Nicholson and checking out the chick with the yellow legal pad leaning in.

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    • I think legal-pad lady asked, or is asking, a question (as a reporter), and Warren is handling the response like a conductor in front of the orchestra.

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      • on December 29, 2015 at 5:29 pm Cap't Tautological

        Per Wikipedia: Warren Beatty, born March 30, 1937; Jack Nicholson, born April 22, 1937; The Donald, born June 14, 1946. So it could be that The Donald has excellent manners and is simply being courteous to the old men at the table, and trying to show them some respect. Also, never misunderestimate the near-omnipotent power of LISTENING.

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    • I think of it this way. Any woman who would approach the table from the other end (if she had the guts to do it) would surely notice stylishly-dressed, calmly-poised Warren Beatty first since he is in the center and then she would see Jack looking disheveled but very self-amused and then “tryhard” Donald leaning in to keep himself relevant in the conversation.
      She would see it in that order so I can only conclude that Warren Beatty would get the most tingles out of her.
      Kind of like approaching the king’s throne.

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  2. I like your analysis except I believe that Beatty is actually speaking to the reporter (?) in white, leaning over him from behind. That would better explain the speaking to air, etc.

    [CH: yeah, it was kind of hard to tell from the angle of the photo, but it looks like beatty could be speaking to either the reporter or to nicholson. probably the reporter now that i look at it again, and trump may not be leaning in to hear beatty but rather to better hear the reporter (or to better check out her rack).]

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    • This (and CH’s comment about preferring to speak to the air in front of his face) reminds me of one of the great Super Alpha Contests of All-Time, that between Diogenes and Alexander the Great. From Plutach:

      Thereupon many statesmen and philosophers came to Alexander with their congratulations, and he expected that Diogenes of Sinope also, who was tarrying in Corinth, would do likewise. But since that philosopher took not the slightest notice of Alexander, and continued to enjoy his leisure in the suburb Craneion, Alexander went in person to see him; and he found him lying in the sun. Diogenes raised himself up a little when he saw so many people coming towards him, and fixed his eyes upon Alexander. And when that monarch addressed him with greetings, and asked if he wanted anything, “Yes,” said Diogenes, “stand a little out of my sun.” It is said that Alexander was so struck by this, and admired so much the haughtiness and grandeur of the man who had nothing but scorn for him, that he said to his followers, who were laughing and jesting about the philosopher as they went away, “But truly, if I were not Alexander, I would be Diogenes.”

      😆 Yes, stand a little out of my sun. That’s a ZFG Alpha play right there.

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    • Actually, I think Beatty and Nicholson are plastered, or getting there, and Trump is sober. Not sure if that make them more or less alpha, but it may explain their postures. I also think Trump may be leaning in towards Beatty because, if Beatty is drunk, he may be mumbling, speaking too low, or even be incoherent.

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  3. The biggest tell? Sitting between them, as though at the head of the table.

    [CH: good catch.]

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    • That is what I picked up on. My guts wanted to say it was Trump then Jack, but my judgment said Beatty, a man I don’t really like. BTW, Beatty is from Arlington and went to Washington-Lee High School. So did his sister, Shirley MacLain, so no family money either.

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    • Depends. If Trump and Nicholson don’t get along, then Beatty is merely a buffer.

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    • Sitting at the head of the table is established status-recognition protocol. In practical terms, that’s the worst place to sit because it effective isolates you. The best seat is along the middle of the table.

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      • Think of the head of the table as this: sure, it’s harder to hear others speak and for then to listen to you without distraction, but it’s like a peacock tail – if you’re cool enough, people will want your attention and thoughts anyway.

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  4. My immediate impression was also the Beatty is the Super Alpha. I was caught a little off guard at Trump’s leaning in. It really does not suit him at all. Any disagreement I have is strictly through experience.

    Nicholson will always ooze Alpha like the sweat out of his pores.

    Men that act as though they are on top of the world with two other men who are on top of the world are usually simply caught up in the motions of the evening and making the illusion of being the most interesting man in the world. It makes me look for the Dos Equis bottle. Even though I am more inclined to see Beatty as obnoxious, I can’t deny that his attitude is in the negatives past zero fucks given. I can see him downing his drink, spouting platitudinal bullshit after orating to the air and pointing at random people, then getting up to shag a waitress or someone else’s wife in the coat room.

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    • I must admit, of the three, Jack is owning the ZFG look; whereas, Warren and Donald are still in performance mode.

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      • Yeah… my impression was, whatever the fuck “super alpha” means, Nicholson is the Emperor of “who gives a shit?”

        Of the three, he’s the only one who looks like he didn’t agonize over his wardrobe… and the white ties on light shirts of the other two come a bit close to try-hard, in my book.

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  5. Just based on the photo, I went with Beatty as well. He’s commanding the scene, with the other two listening in. Of the three, Trump’s posture makes him come in third, but not enough context to know what the event is or what’s taking place.

    Today, Trump gets my vote simply because of his smoking hot wife. That women is so beautiful.

    Speaking of Beatty, the film Bugsy is a lesson in oneitis if ever I’ve seen one.

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  6. Agree it’s just a snapshot in a video sequence and Trump may be leaning in to hear because of the din from the crush of onlookers before launching into his own performance. Nicholson looks befuddled. Taken solely on this frame Beatty wins out.

    In related psychology, the new years internet has sparse pickings for the masses crying out for free content. Many are agitated and rudderless without their customary opinion feed. So to plug the content gap I penned a “game” essay He Who Reveals the Most About Himself Loses :

    http://wp.me/p6QFjS-5V

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    • on December 29, 2015 at 5:32 pm Cap't Tautological

      > “He Who Reveals the Most About Himself Loses” ——— That’s essentially what I’m saying above, in re The Donald and the near omnipotent power of LISTENING.

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    • “He who reveals…” , then you go on to reveal to us a blog post you wrote… Interesting irony.

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  7. They are all pussies.

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  8. That’s the waitress and Beatty is placing their dinner order. “He [Jack] is going to have the prime rib medium rare. I’m having the petrale sole. And my new friend Donald here is having the herb roasted chicken”

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    • The Donald is going to be eating some rotten tasting Tuna in 2016, and vomiting it (her) back at the libtards when he is done.

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  9. When I looked at the picture, I saw Beatty talking to a reporter. In such a group, the super-alpha designation is entirely situational. It belongs to whichever man is the center of attention at the time. Nicholson looks disengaged, moreover. Can you really judge when the three are not socially engaged on the same topic?

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  10. and 5 seconds later Beatty was probably spouting some faggy political opinions.

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    • on December 29, 2015 at 5:34 pm Cap't Tautological

      Matt Drudge insists that Warren Beatty once said that he [Beatty] was Pro-Life.

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      • I can imagine it might have been for personal reasons considering how many babies he may have scattered throughout the wombs of various petuties.

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  11. The super alpha is me; I was doing Beatty’s girlfriend in the Limo.

    (I am kidding of course!!)

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  12. Where’s Doby Gillis in all this?

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  13. My take is that Trump is talking to Nicholson and they are both ignoring that dried-up old windbag Beatty…

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  14. on December 29, 2015 at 3:02 pm having a bad day

    at the Trump Plaza for the tyson v. spinks fight in 1988…

    about 30 seconds before or after the op photo…

    http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/jack-nicholson-warren-beatty-and-donald-trump-during-mike-tyson-vs-picture-id117929856

    shows the shifting nature of super alphas interacting with each other…

    the REAL question is…who would get the girl?…lol…

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    • Agree w/ CH re: Beatty in initial photo, but also with others that with these three, it’s likely that super alpha is quite fluid.

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    • I’d say that the game was on. None had finally asserted dominance at this point. I would note that high alphas don’t always choose to do battle with other high alphas unless there is something worth winning at stake.

      The actors could not compete with Trump in the big bucks games he plays. And in competing for women, the actors would have the edge although there was plenty of pussy to go around so why bother when 10s abound?

      You will also see status competition between alphas in out-aristocrizing each other – “putting on airs.” But not with this bunch. A head-to-head match between Trump and John Kerry would see that tactic from Kerry – he would try to “out-snotty” Trump.

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    • on December 29, 2015 at 4:40 pm Lost in Moderation

      Crazy hot eyes on the grinning chick behind Beatty’s right shoulder, but the one in right behind Nicholson is the one who will shit test to choose her bed partner for the night.

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    • Nice follow-up photo! I change my vote to Jack! As I noted elsewhere in one of my responses, he (in the first photo) has a total ZFG look, even in the presence of two other very popular Alphas. He’s like, “Give me another goddamn drink!” In the second photo (cannot see Donald’s face), Donald is pointing hard at him. What is Jack doing in response? He is leaning in with a shit-eating IDGAF grin! Come on…Jack for the win, when combining both photos.

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      • on December 29, 2015 at 5:37 pm Cap't Tautological

        In that photo you can really see the point which I was trying to make way above here – that The Donald is so much younger that he literally looks like a teenaged boy sitting there with two Grandpas.

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      • on December 29, 2015 at 6:27 pm Cap't Tautological

        Dudes like The Donald, who have boyish good looks well into their 40s, have to wait forever until they get some “gravitas” to their features. Even today, The Donald looks more physically fit than any of the other candidates in the GOP primary. If The Donald had tried a presidential run 25 years ago, people wouldn’t have taken him seriously, simply because he was still so preternaturally youthful that he didn’t look the part.

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      • on December 29, 2015 at 6:32 pm Cap't Tautological

        The Gipper was like that – when he played opposite e.g. Errol Flynn, he looked like a little boy [compared to Flynn]. Which is another little data point in my theory that The Donald might have met with The Gipper back in the 1980s, and that The Gipper might have offered The Donald some tips, such as 1) Get plenty of practice in front of a microphone & camera [== “The Apprentice”], and 2) Wait until you get a few wrinkles in your boyish face. Of course The Gipper was about the oldest man to ever serve as President – The Gipper just had to wait all those years until he finally grew into the role.

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      • on December 29, 2015 at 8:26 pm Cap't Tautological

        In 1947, when filming “That Hagan Girl”, Ronald Reagan was 36 and Shirley Temple was 19, and yet Reagan still had such a boyish face that the pairing actually worked on screen:

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      • on December 29, 2015 at 8:28 pm Cap't Tautological

        In 1988, The Donald, aged 42, still with the boyish face like a teenager:
        http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/jack-nicholson-warren-beatty-and-donald-trump-news-photo/80667331

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      • on December 29, 2015 at 8:31 pm Cap't Tautological

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      • on December 29, 2015 at 8:33 pm Cap't Tautological

        The Donald was still way too pretty at age 42 to have been taken seriously as a Presidential Candidate. Just like the Gipper. Had to wait. Grow some wrinkles.

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      • Boyish face and $1B net worth in 1988 (in 1988 dollars)… at 42… and what is the criticism? that he had a mere $1M head start lulzlulzlulz….

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      • on December 30, 2015 at 7:19 am Cap't Tautological

        One other huge [“yyuuuuggge”] tell about that photo is that Nicholson & Beatty are hiding behind J00llyweird sunglasses, whereas The Donald is looking at people WITH HIS OWN EYES.

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      • on December 30, 2015 at 7:30 am Cap't Tautological

        Actually, if I were an agent sent over here from The Poz [be sure to say hello to Director Tamir Pardo for us!], with an assignment to study this thread for any insight into how to beat The Donald, then that fact alone [The Donald eschewing the sunglasses] would send a chill down my spine: Nicholson & Beatty are legitimate Super-Alpha f*ck-ups, but The Donald only fakes the f*cked-up-ed-ness: He’s gonna stare you down, eye to eye.

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      • Great point about the sunglasses.

        A thought just occurred to me that there are two metaphysical kinds of alpha: the Faustian Bargain alpha and the Inner Light alpha.

        Hollywood alphas are the former, getting fame and women while descending into a drug-addled hell of personal disintegration, all connected to the black tube sustenance of their sponsor institution.

        The Inner Light alpha is independent of earthly (or Subterranean) sponsorship, which is why he does not hide behind sunglasses.

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      • Good analysis, PA. Covers much ground. Food for though.

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    • One more try…. Trump is the alpha… All the rest. Everyone in the room is his guest in his emblazoned casino… All the rest were on his guest list… He went table to table to sprinkle his magic dust on them.. 5 minutes later he was up and off to even higjer value men in politics and business, to sprinlle his magic and ask if they were ok… Lol.

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  15. As CH said the pic was only a moment in time. Two of them are actors and the other was/is a businessman making real impact in society (especially now). I know who my pick as alpha male is.

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  16. i thought the guy in the middle, and initially thought it might be al pacino, and read the whole article to see why i was wrong and the trump was king. which just proves i’m sort of a pussy with bad eyesight and i don’t trust my gut. shoot

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  17. Trump may be deferring to the other two due to the fact he is possibly the youngest man at the table…. – out of respect, that is….

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  18. Agree with CH’s analysis on the photo.

    I think Trump is a perfect alpha storm, a natural from the start of life, who then honed his alphaness through self-analysis of his own social interactions with women and in the boardroom, the same way one might hone skill in marketing and sales. Then to top it off, internet savvy Donald probably spent a modest amount of time reading red pill stuff, whether it be books, or even getting as deep as our very own Chateau (always just one click away from the shit people tweet to him).

    His charisma is too seamless not to be natural, but also too perfect not to be steeped in knowledge, studied in some way. Even naturals have some beta blind spots when you talk to them and watch them, often recovering with good looks or banked alpha cred. But we haven’t seen a chink in the Donald’s alpha armor on the campaign trail. It’s almost too perfect to believe, like looking at a Caravaggio painting.

    As always, you can’t stump the Trump.

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  19. I’ve seen something similar among natural alphas I know. One guy speaks so softly in group conversation so as to force people to shut up and lean in an listen. Fucking annoying but you do it.

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  20. I would have picked Nicholson.

    His slightly disheveled look says, “I don’t give a fuck. I’m 100 gradations beyond having to give giving a fuck. I’m here to enjoy myself and I don’t need a fucking tie because I’m Jack Fucking Nicholson.”

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    • Pretty much.

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    • If this is 1988, Jack’s also coming off critical acclaim for the recent Witches Of Eastwick and Ironweed. I remember the latter specifically because I always thought he should have won the Oscar for that one.

      I don’t think Beatty’s career was on a high note right then… he didn’t start making waves again until the nineties, if memory serves.

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  21. Reporter is Cindy Adams (pushing 60 in that photo), gossip columnist for the NY Post.

    Goddam I’m old. Hahaha

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  22. Since @Having_a_Bad_Day was able to pinpoint the year, 1988, that gives us a little more information to speculate on. I eliminate Nicholson because he probably felt inferior to the far more accomplished Beatty and Trump. In 2015 there is no question it would be Trump, but in 1988 it could very well have been Beatty.

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    • Beatty more accomplished than Nicholson… are you fucking mad?

      Jack’s the perennial Oscar nominee (holds the male record) with about 17 nominations and three statues.

      Beatty got his libtard nod for directing/writing Reds, but that was back in 1982, and the movie didn’t make a dime.

      And I’m not sure Beatty was ever even nominated for his acting.

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      • Bonnie and Clyde is the only film of his that is worth a damn because it’s a Sam Peckinpah film.

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      • In all fairness, I think B & C were overrated, and marked one of the seminal “bad guys cool, establishment sucks” antihero type films turning points in pop culture. Sure, there were like films before that, but none that got Academy-level respect touted to the skies.

        And his acting job in that one, with the put-on Southern drawl, was laughable.

        I’d say his best work was in Heaven Can Wait, an enjoyable “fluff” film to tickle the funny bone and romantic heart-strings, if’n ya got any. 😉

        A lot of people liked Shampoo, but that was just porn for polite folks.

        Reds, meh… who the fuck makes a hero out of John Reed? You-know-who… and a Jew gangster like Bugsy Siegel?

        He and Nicholson were in a bomb of a movie in the mid-seventies called The Fortune. The jury’s still out on who got the leg up on who in that stinker.

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  23. Beatty clearly but the why is more interesting to my way of reckoning. Is it because Beatty is more stylish for the time period and the better looking vs Trump being rather young, not yet full on business dude alpha prime and Nicholson looks like a burnt out party boy?

    Also Beatty looks like he is holding court, the center of attention such as social alphas always are and vaguely dangerous looking in the close business ties with some Mafi Don sort of way; not a trigger puller himself but can fuck you up with a phone call

    How would they stack up if you threw in an NFL level middle linebacker who was decent in the face ad fairly well dressed, or one of the better looking dudes from the UFC?

    Interesting social dynamic but I also agree with the all three are pussies comment. Two of the three get to be alphas because they live in a soft womanish environment

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    • on December 29, 2015 at 4:53 pm Lost in Moderation

      Isn’t that the underlying problem with alphas? Men among men types may be leaders and alpha in that context, but sometimes they’re pure beta when it comes to women, and sometimes so they’re so manly they don’t give a damn about pussy.

      However, to take your scenario, shove someone in this scenario whose fame revolves around physical risk, like Tom Brady. Nicholson and Beatty would shrink next to him. Manliness in the face of danger and the ability to lure in easy pussy are two different things entirely. Concur that we shouldn’t confuse them.

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      • that is a huge issue among my peer group; most of whom still get laid like tile because of an interesting lifestyle and a high level of physical conditioning but they don’t mange their bitches so always have lady drama

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      • posts is all messed up

        I dated a model in Hawaii who did a lot of arm candy/ meet and greet jobs. By and large her and her friends were not impressed with actors, while most were impressed with the athletes…. ok most were impressed with actors at 1st but they got over it. Actors were mostly an act, the athletes were “alive”, fun etc

        physicality matters

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      • I have about heard more cheap melodrama in SF Units than anywhere else.

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      • I can see that. It can be a really weird life.

        I wasn’t SF, but knew several with shitty wives stateside wives who were fucking around on them and a stateside wife. A lot of it too was the time and the age of the men. american women still enjoyed a halo effect from pre feminism days( maybe?) and the guys had not see so much divorce etc growing up

        I was a little less special and then a little more special. My early days were like a redneck frat house with guns, ammo and demo. Most of us were new and in love with the life. We got paid to work out 3 times a day, shot machine guys, blow shit up and jump out of planes. Pretty fucking cool when you are 20. Even the beta dudes didn’t really give a fuck because work was fucking fun. Mostly high tess, high energy young White guys from rural America. Naturally betas but like I said more focused on tearing shit up at work, or getting off work, getting shit faced and brawling in bars. ZFG would get them laid, then they’d try to lock some bitch down and shit would fall apart. Rinse repeat, rinse repeat

        The other unit I was in isn’t worth discussing. Not many of us and all of us pretty unusual in the head. Most of us were married, most had amazing wives. For a lot of us work and the unit was almost a region, like the world deadliest altar boys and I remember a large number of wives who literally considered their marriage to and raising their operator’s children their mission from God.

        again not really like what everyone else deals with. A lot more positives and a lot more negatives all at the same time

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      • on January 2, 2016 at 6:10 pm The Philosopher

        Lots of comments here about “physical risk” yet hardly anybody got famous for that. Fame is pussy magnet on its own, merited or not. Many athletes aren’t charismatic, lets be frank. Most actors have to be. But if you can join physicality and charisma its a winning ticket for sure. From what I can tell of top athletes pull standards, they pull way worse than top level actors in terms of quality. Theres just no comparison between Brady and Beattys records. Beatty wipes the floor. I think the guy above can’t stand that charismatic guys like Trump/Nicholson/Beatty pull more than he can ever get roiding or trudging through a desert in Iraq. This is magnified if they go abroad as well by the way. I’d take being a jerkboy party animal anyday over a “tough guy”.

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    • I disagree. If you look at the second photo (provided above), Jack is leaning in, in front of Warren, crossing his air space and really close. You do not do that to the Silver-backed Gorilla and survive! Jack took over his space, and any other space he wanted. Grinning about it, too. Warren has is arms in close, in the second photo, like he is being squeezed in by Jack and Donald. I stay with Jack. Can’t hack the Jack, just like now you can’t stump the Trump.

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      • LOL I think your man crush is showing. Jack looks like a dork. A fat, sloppy drunk dork.

        The topic is the photo posted in the OP, that moment in time and not the next. Jack very well may have AMOG’ed them the rest of the night.

        All three are pussies so invading Beatty’s air space is low risk as low risk gets. However often enough betas want to squeeze in with low risk alphas, or squeeze in on alphas in a low risk way hoping the alpha’s halo effect will elevate said beta ( not that trump or jack are betas mind you). We see this with all sorts of alpha leadership beta followers dynamics

        Also I reckon it really doesn’t matter who is king alpha so much. Each one will trigger different bitches based on their version of alpha. Professionally the actors are not a threat to Trumps standing, Trump is not a threat to them so if who is king alpha does matter, it would only matter between the actors

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    • Trump was worth over 1 billion in 1988. In 1988 dollars. He was one of the richest men in america then. At that young age. He owned numerous casinos, real estate and an airline all with hsi name on it.

      Think about that. He has been a billionaire for over 30 years…

      Beatty and Nicholson would suck his dong for film financing… Lol

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      • LOL funny as hell and sobering too

        though I figure Beatty and Nicholson would suck off Trump just because its what they do on weekends and it would remind them of how they got started in Hollywood

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      • He’s doing the schlonging.

        Solid point, though. A billionaire for over 30 years is hard to fathom. You figure that by trying to secure your wealth, there’s a risk you take a hit, then if you double down, you could lose it all. And, if you don’t invest or make your money work for you and grow it, then bye bye just the same.

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      • – “Beatty and Nicholson would suck off Trump just because … it would remind them of how they got started in Hollywood”

        This reminds me of the older Putin vs DiCaprio “spot the alpha” post. Putin made his career by throwing lizard oligarchs in prison. DiCaprio made his by sucking them off.

        You think he did those male-on-male french kiss scenes early in his career for art?

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      • PA, I’m also positive Putin also killed a few people himself, not simply ordering others to do it.

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  24. Warren has what I would call “creating gravity”. He is centered in the photos between Jack and Donald, and has no fewer than four people near or directly behind him (not counting Jack or Donald). Like a sun, or large dense planet, he has a powerful gravitational pull on all others around him. The mass of a Super Alpha atom is much denser and heavier than that of a Beta or Gamma atom of the same size, or even that of standard Alpha atom. Only another super Alpha can break away from that pull, and steal some of the orbiters with an equal, or greater, gravitational pull.

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  25. I give it to Jack in the photo… First, of all, he just doesn’t care. He’s not impolite, he’s just doesn’t care. Trump is curious, and remember he is the younger of the 3. So would it not be smart to be curious about older accomplished men. Curiosity in and of itself is not beta. Also, Trumps venues cover much more than the either 2, he wants to stay on top of information. From the camera angle he looks slightly lower than the other 2, but he is the taller man (much taller than Jack), he just doesn’t need to display. Trump reads to me that he is deciding if he should care. Listen to these 2 actors for a funny anecdote, they are here at my hotel to entertain me afterall. I guarantee Jack and Beatty were comped by Trump. The least alpha here is Beatty. Because he does care, he cares to talk to a reporter. I am biased in my assessment because I think the least of Beatty.

    Continuing… Jack is a great actor, an actual artist. He’s made immeasurable contributions to cinema as an art form. Beatty has never been more than a mediocre actor, a renown lothario, however, he has chosen some good scripts to make. I give him credit for being an interesting entertainer. Side note: Jerry Hall in her prime chose Jagger over Beatty, saw her admit this in an interview. Jagger was the true artist. Beatty’s lack of alphaness to me has always been his glibness, you see it in his acting, thus in his soul. He’s a mimbo that skates on his looks. He’s more famous for fucking women than anything else. In a soft society, well-fed, easy life, Beatty can be successful. But in a hard society, he hides with the women and children. In this hard society, Jack bravely leads a charge, and its not about him being the toughest, the baddest, no, he’s the most charismatic.

    Trump is the ruler. Born to it. Grown into it. In the more barbaric society he is Donald the Great.

    P.S. Of the 3 which is more likely to get raped in prison? Obviously, it would be Beatty. In fact, I think he would live as a cell house bitch, even though he was supposedly a college athlete. Between Jack and Trump it would be a toss up. And I think you’d have to kill either of them to rape them.

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  26. I also picked Beatty initially. Because of his body language.

    Has anybody noticed that the audience appears to be congregating around/towards Trump?

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  27. Beatty looks like he’s ordering for the other guys 🙂

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  28. They used to say that Carly Simon’s ‘You’re So Vain’ was about Beatty. Regarding Donald leaning in to listen, I noticed he does that quite a bit in the debates. It’s one thing that impresses me about him, he actually listens very acutely to people’s position. For all the talk of his arrogance, he’s open to hearing the person’s position and disregarding what he disagrees with, while gathering information. You have to be that way to accomplish what he has.

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    • on December 29, 2015 at 7:11 pm Cap't Tautological

      Yeah, I’ve tried to make that point in this thread – if you wanna get ahead in life, then shut your frigging mouth and LISTEN [and then remember what you heard]. Nicholson & Beatty are getting drunk and planning their carnal conquests for the evening, whereas The Donald is listening and making mental notes and learning and delaying gratification [per his now-deceased alcoholic brother’s advice, The Donald is a teetotaler] and sharpening his sense of the big picture.

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      • If you are speaking you are putting out information you already know and learning nothing and taking it in and only learning when you listen. It is obvious which builds you up more.

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      • Wise old owl, perched on an oak…
        The more he saw, the less he spoke…
        The less he’d speak, the more he’d see…
        Wise old owl, sitting in that tree.

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  29. Note Beatty is in white while the other two are in darker colours, Beatty stands out in this context. He’s in a double-breasted jacket buttoned up so he’s commanding more higher value while the others in this context are more informal. He’s wearing glasses so appears more mysterious and alluring while.

    But it’s the posture….he sits straight while the other two are drawn to him.

    On a side note, this is why instagram game can be effective. If you post photos doing cool stuff or in the company of cool people and place yourself in a situation where you are at the centre of that activity it’s a DHV. Girls live on instagram so go where the fish are. Use social networks and technology to your game advantage. No mugging photos….

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  30. Nicholson’s nose is the highest. He is looking down at the other two. Both of the other two have their noses down and heads below Nicholson’s. Classic primate signaling.

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  31. It seems like all super alphas have to be rich & famous. Perhaps 5 minutes after this photo was taken, body language would be different and a different super alpha may shine.

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  32. Again I wonder how much of this photo comes down to randomness. Perhaps the seating was arranged that way or perhaps the Donald or Jack N. made the others wait for him to arrive (an alpha sign).

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  33. I’ll bet who was The Super Alpha went back and forth between the 3 of them.

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  34. Life is a movie, not a snapshot. Since there were so many takes of this apparently famous table conversation, I’m curious if there is a 30 second clip of it floating in the Borg somewhere. THAT would be the teller of the tale.

    And yes, RIP Lemmy! A man as tough as nails to the end, dying of cancer three days after being diagnosed with it, probably only going to the hospital figuring it was his last day to live so an MD can give the public the true cause of death and not have tongue waggers speculate all sorts of wrong guesses. I have seen that scourge break strong men, war vets who island hopped the Pacific, and wonder how he put up with it. Then again, he thrived on what killed millions who tried to life half as hard as he.

    I bow in respect to the last Viking berserker. If his funeral does not involve a burning boat pushed out to the middle of a lake I’ll be greatly saddened.

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    • I like Lemmy, I loved Hawkwind. Lemmy is the only show I have ever left early. It was deafening in the Bayou. I honestly thought I would suffer hearing damage.

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  35. Nicholson looks like he’s having fun.

    Beatty is doing the talking so he appears more forceful.

    Trump is inquisitive. If he’s deferring to the other two, it’s only because he feels comfortable enough in his own skin not feeling the need to impose his own personality in this context.

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  36. Trump undoubtedly paid Nicholson and Beatty to be there, to add glamour to the occasion. Then mixed with them to bask in their reflected glory. They have to be polite to him because he signs the checks.

    Although Trump was wealthy, he was comparatively unknown, and his SMV would have been way below the other two’s.

    But I think it is clear that all three respect each other. An alpha recognizes a fellow alpha. FWIW, my rating: Nicholson A++, Beatty A+, Trump A.

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  37. If you notice the people in the audience, they are listening more than looking. Their heads are cocked like spaniels to hear what is being said. That means that the one talking in the dominant manner is probably the alpha. Another thing is that Trump seems to be making eye contact with Nicholson and Beatty is either looking ahead or away from Trump. Lack of eye contact can mean beta. The crowd seems to be looking at Beatty who is the most physically attractive but possibly the least powerful among the three. Perhaps they are talking about money.

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  38. readers, what’s your take on serial monogamy vs womanizing? There seems to be something highly appealing about having multiple children with many beautiful women.

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  39. Y’all need to stop jacking off over a picture of three old men and fantasizing which one has the biggest nuts.

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  40. So what if an actor is perceived as alpha? He’s still just a fag prancing across the stage in tights. How alpha do you think these two would be if they hadn’t won the Hollywood lottery? You didn’t see the third pic, where they take it in turns to lick Trump’s balls.

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  41. Everyone is aiming towards Beatty like he’s Christ at the Last Supper.

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  42. The reaction of the reporterettes tell the tale, look at the eye flair when Trump is speaking and pointing, compared to the other photo where they were more or less background furniture

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  43. There was an article in the Daily Mail about David Soade admitting how Jack asked his girl out in front of him. She was caught in a car wreck with Jack and begged David to forgive her. Spade admitted in the interview to Jack’s status. He submitted like a bitch. It’s an article worth googling.

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  44. […] and English literature.  Without the former, the latter is just pissing in the wind. Spot the super alpha. Is the left saying that Muslims are easily radicalized? The modern world is a game of, […]

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  45. I read a story once in which Jack Nicholson, Warren Beatty, Robert Redford, and Clint Eastwood were all at a party. The producer Robert Evans reported that ALL of the women there gravitated to just one of the four. I have quizzed women on which of the four they think it was, and most of them get the answer right: Nicholson.

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