All The Inner Game You’ll Ever Need

Put down the Anthony Robbins and save yourself hours of reading seduction website forums, the only inner game you’ll ever need is perfectly encapsulated in this one line:

That woman was sexy…Out of your league? Son. Let women figure out why they won’t screw you, don’t do it for them.

This is a quote from the Twitter user “shit my dad says“. I don’t know if Justin’s 73 year old father actually says the stuff Justin claims, or if the site is a put-on by a comedian with good marketing skills, but right now “shit my dad says” is the funniest thing on all the internet. Examples:

I wanted to see Detroit win. I’ve been there. It’s like God took a shit on a parking lot. They deserve some good news.

Don’t listen to the pussy side of you when you make a decision. People gravitate towards being a pussy. Remove the pussy, son.

Clearly, Justin’s dad has a handle on inner game and the bane of betatude. I wish my dad gave me this kind of advice growing up, but I had to learn the hard way, through experience and suburban street smarts.

Maxim #68: The definition of Inner Game: Hit on every woman who stimulates your crotch. Make life uncomfortable for them, not yourself.

Thanks to reader Antonio for sending me the Twitter quote.





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  1. sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

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  2. oh wait that was supposed to be

    shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

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  3. Hit on every woman who stimulates your crotch.

    Like this guy:

    http://www.ajc.com/news/man-gropes-nurse-who-160590.html?cxntlid=thbz_hm&imw=Y
    Man gropes nurse who was helping deliver his baby

    Associated Press
    5:49 a.m. Monday, October 12, 2009

    Ogden, Utah — Ogden police have arrested a Bountiful man for allegedly groping a nurse who was helping the woman who was in labor with his child.

    Ogden police Lt. Loring Draper says 30-year-old Adam Jay Manning brought a pregnant woman to a hospital early Friday.

    The Salt Lake Tribune reported on its Web site that Manning allegedly made a comment about how cute the nurse was who came to help the couple. Draper says he then allegedly told the nurse something looked wrong with her neck and attempted to massage it before grabbing her breast.

    The nurse pushed Manning away and reported the incident to police. He was arrested on suspicion of felony forcible sexual abuse and missed the birth of the child.

    Draper says it’s unclear whether the woman who gave birth is married to Manning or is a girlfriend.

    No phone listing for Manning could be found.

    Wouldn’t want to have to ‘splain that one to the wife, myself.

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  4. Yep. Same advice one girl gave to me back in my ultra-beta days, when I made some self-depreciating joke:

    “Don’t tell a girl how to think about you, because she’ll listen. Let her figure it out.”

    It was half-true. Tell her to think about you as a stud.

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  5. Roissy —

    Interesting that his dad is 73, making him technically not a Baby Boomer. I’ve always suspected that something happened to the Baby Boomer generation to herbify a startling portion of the men, and it simply can’t be explained by feminism alone.

    The whole ethos of the generation is selfishness and excess but without passion. They eat til they explode but its always shit they’re shoveling into their mouths. They have six hundred channels, but its always some bullshit celebrity/reality garbage.

    I think a good deal of the herbification of so many of these men (and the attendant fattening of their women) is due to an opting out of a game they felt they couldn’t compete in. They didn’t have the ballsy individualism or free spirit to pursue the hippie lifestyle, and all of their criticism of it is tinged with deep envy. They also didn’t have the wherewithal to live in the high-flying modern urban career hedonist aesthetic that was available to them in the 1980s, either.

    They got their degrees, got married as they were expected to, and became the mediocre parents they always knew they would be. Maybe it was a golden age for Betas, as they knew they could rely on the still-strong social pressures compelling women to marry to ensure that at least they wouldn’t die virgins. Their susceptibility to organized religion is notably strong.

    The Boomer Betas by and large chose the middle road between bohemianism and ambition — avoiding the risks and rewards of both (i.e. lots of hot ass) — and today stand as the prime example of who not to emulate.

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  6. Lurker, false advertising is a short term strategy.

    As all internet marketters know, content is king.

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  7. Pupu’s favorites

    1.”You’re gonna run into jerk offs. But remember, it’s not the size of the asshole you worry about, it’s how much shit comes out of it.”

    2. “The dog don’t like you planting stuff there. It’s his backyard. If you’re the only one who shits in something, you own it. Remember that.”

    3. “Your brother brought his baby over this morning. He told me it could stand. It couldn’t stand for shit. Just sat there. Big let down.”

    4. “Your mother made a batch of meatballs last night. Some are for you, some are for me, but more are for me. Remember that. More. Me.”

    5. “Love this Mrs. Dash. The bitch can make spices… Jesus, Joni (my mom) it’s a joke. I was making a joke! Mrs. Dash isn’t even real dammit!”

    A great remark on hairstyle:

    “Does anyone your age know how to comb their fucking hair? It looks like two squirrels crawled on their head and started fucking.”

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  8. Other good sayings for boys:

    “If you look hungry, you won’t get fed.”

    “If you like a girl, tease her.”

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  9. Folksy sayings I picked up (not relating to Game)

    “It’s raining like cowpiss on a flat rock”

    “Her ass is like two puppies fighting under a blanket”

    “I’m sweating like a whore in church”

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  10. Indeed. I was thinking about it for a while. If you’re not a complete nerd, just social but rather beta, all that “inner game” shit can make you worse. Thinking about confidence destroys confidence, etc.

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  11. [email protected] “suburban street smarts”

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  12. I feel bad for today’s Brandons: My dad was a good-looking dude and catnip to women. I’m proud to be a chip off the old block.

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  13. I’m currently a graduate student at a Big Ten university and will be moving to the Detroit area next summer to start working full time.

    I hope that place has hit rock bottom economically, because it’s not a pretty sight there. The roads are especially bad, christ. The black leadership has rotted the core too. Shameful.

    Luckily, it’s one of the most segregated metropolitan areas in America and I should only have to deal with coloreds when I head downtown. Most of the suburbs are relatively well off (i.e. Oakland County).

    Oh, and yeah, the ‘shitmydadsays’ account is hilarious.

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  14. I always let the woman rationalize why she fucked a loser like me.

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  15. This dude and his persona, aged and cranky but virile, remind me of the Alan Arkin character in “Little Miss Sunshine”: a fresh breath of testosterone in an otherwise hellish indie SWPL-scape. Lines to remember and live by – one of the funniest monologues I can remember :

    “Can I give you some advice? I don’t want you making the same mistakes I did when I was young. This is the voice of experience talking. Are you listening? Kid: FUCK A LOT OF WOMEN. Not just one woman. A LOT OF WOMEN. You’re young … you gettin’ any right now? … Jesus! you’re what, fifteen? You should be gettin’ that young stuff. There’s nothing in the world better than the young stuff! … Look: right now you’re jailbait, they’re jailbait. So it’s fine. The minute you turn eighteen — Bam! you’re lookin’ at three to five…”

    He then talked about how he started snorting heroin in his nursing home.

    And he taught his 10-year-old grandaughter to do a stripper routine for her dance at a beauty pageant.

    And no, I didn’t memorize that monologue – I remembered how hilarious it was and found a copy of the script online. It sticks out because he’s a totally unapologetica alpha character in a film full of quirky weird betas. And he actually won the Oscar for that part…

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  16. If you’re not a complete nerd, just social but rather beta, all that “inner game” shit can make you worse. Thinking about confidence destroys confidence, etc.

    Do shit that makes you feel manly. Do shit that your ideal man would do, and you become your ideal.

    New Agey ‘inner game’ doesn’t help. It doesn’t make you any more of a closer.

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  17. “suburban street smarts” I will have to remember that one. Its very funny.

    “Her ass is like two puppies fighting under a blanket”…….also funny.

    “My dick got harder than Chinese arithmetic”

    “Id sooner hump a sticker-bush” (or cactus, whatever)

    “I’d rather jack-off a bobcat with a handful of tacks”

    REALLY DIRTY ONE:

    “It would take three men and a can-opener to get his toungue out of her ass”

    “If a woman makes a statement, and she is out in the woods where no man can hear it, is she still wrong?” (could be used as a kind of neg)

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  18. Another old one, slightly different from one of PA’s, was this:

    I was sweatin’ like a queer at a weenie-roast

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  19. It’s all “self-esteem”, to use the modern term for this mysterious thing. Most self-help and psychotherapy doesn’t go deep enough though and is thus useless. Hint- it really does all go back to your mother.

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  20. Maybe the herbification of modern men is the rough equivalent of the slobification of modern women.

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  21. Wow, I can’t wait to incorporate these sayings into my everyday speech.

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  22. I love the quote. But that’s not all there is to inner game.

    Outer game is all the skills. It’s HOW you do things. For example, knowing what to say to a woman is outer game.

    Inner game is your ability to actually take initiative. It can be independent of your actual skills.

    You may or may not know WHAT to say to a woman, but your inner game is whether you have the ability to actually go up to her and talk to her. Your inner game is dependent on you getting past your inhibitions.

    No matter how much you think and learn and read and memorize, it won’t change the way you FEEL on the inside. The way you feel on the inside is inner game.

    I love the quote because it tells you to silence all the reasons that your brain creates for why you can’t approach her.

    But it’s not so easy as just not listening to those negative voices. It’s about practicing and getting YOUR BODY comfortable with the process.

    Eric

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  23. And after enough inner-game, you’ll need the “Amp up before you score” app:

    http://www.contentinople.com/author.asp?section_id=655&doc_id=183006&f_src=contentinople_twitterfeed

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  24. on October 13, 2009 at 1:49 pm ironrailsironweights

    “A shaved woman is like a porcupine with feathers. Just ain’t the way Nature intended it.”

    Justin’s Dad.

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  25. Make life uncomfortable for them? You’re kidding right? Like that’s difficult!

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  26. “An unshaved woman is like a smeared roadkill beaver. Just ain’t the way Nature intended it.”

    Justin’s Dad.

    i lurv that codger

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  27. Further confirms my theory that alpha-ism is simply traditional male behavior.

    Also while theoretically I agree with Roissy’s Maxim #68, in practice this is incredibly time consuming.

    I spent most of my college years doing this, never actually hit on even a solid fraction and still wound up doing almost nothing else.

    Unlike Roissy I was more interested in sifting through to find quality chicks. My upbringing and possibly genetics made it difficult to run multiple relationships or have one night stands. I am not morally opposed to them, but I am made personally uncomfortable.

    In any case, however, you are not going to know if a chick is quality until after you go out with her. Which means you must go out with lots of chicks.

    The key is to eliminate as many possible candidates as fast as possible.

    If you are serious about this you may have to have some “datish” interaction with over a thousand women to find the right one. Everything has to be optimized for speed.

    Also for guys who are interested in this approach: NEVER go to where the pretty girls are and find the cool. Go to where the cool girls are and find the pretty one. Obviously you can tell attractiveness thousands of times faster than coolness.

    I have met so many guys who make this mistake. They seem drawn like magnets to places where there are a lot of hot girls. Unless hotness is your only criteria there is absolutely no point to this. There is simply no factor that is easier to determine than hotness. You should apply absolutely no effort whatsoever to find it. It will find you.

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  28. I wish my dad gave me this kind of advice growing up ….

    Man I feel yah. My dad was( and is still) a natural growning up. I’ve seen pictures of him and his girlfriends.I once recall he had two at the same time in the same pic.To this day he still strikes up conversation with young women like nothing. He has that kind of rapport thats so natural it seems effortless.

    but even with all that he never taught me anything about women.

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  29. Looks like Peter finally found some credible outside validation for his monomaniacal fetish…

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  30. “If you look hungry, you won’t get fed.”

    This really depends on how big you are

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  31. “inner game is whether you have the ability to actually go up to her and talk to her.”

    Inner game is not defined entirely or even mostly by your confidence in approaching. Some successful men do not approach – maybe they don’t have to, maybe they’re just not accustomed to it. But the other aspects of their game are solid.

    In fact, in my experience with community guys, their primary virtue was constant approaching. But they weren’t closers at all.

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  32. You may think that Peter’s a dreamer
    But he’s not the only one.
    This day Firepower has joined him
    And before that Roissy and PA*

    * Peter’s taste covers the range; from a nicely maintained front lawn, to a full-out Guyana jungle. Our host at one point suggested he prefers the nice suburban lawn to a no-grass front yard. And I detest the no-grass-all-dirt apperance as well. While I am not an enthusiast of Amazonian rainforests — who knows what manner of parrots and anacondas there dwell — I like a nice, lush, albeit upkept growth down there.

    But if it comes to a choice between a wild thatch and a paved lot, call me Francisco Pizarro.

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  33. It’s interesting, isn’t it, that most of Justin’s father’s witty comments are inspired by what a sad beta loser his son is? They’re a great straight man – funny man team…but the straight man always feels unappreciated.

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  34. ODB, I followed the link to Jezebel. The comments there are hilarious. Some lame dude laments how chicks eat up ‘bro’ behavior, and how he lost his girlfriend to an abusive neglectful asshole. The beta rightly fingers women as the source of bro culture – they keep it alive by rewarding its practitioners.

    No one pays attention to his valid point, except one chick to accuse him of being bitter. Yet another example of how women
    1) Do not take responsibility for their actions
    2) Do not think logically
    3) Eviscerate betas regardless of the merits of their argument.

    Women cannot evaluate something without considering the status of the person who said it. Ie, they are status whores.

    Personally, it’s hard to feel anything but contempt for women who reward you for disrespecting them.

    Reading the comments, I realize why women dumb themselves down, generally. They don’t want to risk alienating that alpha cock, and alternately, show any sign of welcome to the smart geeky types. If alphas only pursued girls who seem smart, girls would try their hardest to seem smart.

    Link: http://jezebel.com/5379070/pepsi-releases-iphone-app-to-help-men-score-with-women-and-brag-about-it-on-twitter

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  35. I hear yuh College Boy.

    We all should have had Dad’s like Alec Baldwins character in the movie “My Best Friends Girl”.

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  36. Justin´s father is the kind of self-help book author the West had before it betayzed into today´s dystopia

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  37. One I heard from my dad, describing a man who was a failure with women: “He couldn’t make out in a cathouse with a fistful of fifties.”

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  38. Pupu wonders what kind of email address Ardesio’s is to yield an avatar shape like that.

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  39. @Karl Smith

    Also for guys who are interested in this approach: NEVER go to where the pretty girls are and find the cool. Go to where the cool girls are and find the pretty one. Obviously you can tell attractiveness thousands of times faster than coolness.

    I have met so many guys who make this mistake. They seem drawn like magnets to places where there are a lot of hot girls. Unless hotness is your only criteria there is absolutely no point to this. There is simply no factor that is easier to determine than hotness. You should apply absolutely no effort whatsoever to find it. It will find you.

    Excellent advice. Hot girls are actually a dime-a-dozen compared to potential lovers and wives, who are very rare and hard to find. It’s much better to filter on personality and compatibility first. After this, average-plus women become gorgeous (as you begin to fall for them) and the “hot” women become less intimidating (as they begin to fall for you).

    @Roissy/OP: Great post. “Leagues” are, of course, one of the most self-defeating and stupid ideas out there. It leads people to overemphasize the attractiveness of the other person and underplay what they can do.

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  40. ODB,

    Never post a link to Jezebel again.

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  41. New Zealand guys, however, can’t take this advice, being born sheepfuckers.

    Kiwis love it the baaad way.

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  42. @Basil,
    repeating your comments above,

    No one pays attention to his her valid point, except one chick man to accuse him her of being bitter. Yet another example of how women men
    1) Do not take responsibility for their actions
    2) Do not think logically
    3) Eviscerate betas ugly women regardless of the merits of theirher argument.

    Women Men cannot evaluate something without considering the status beauty of the person girl who said it. Ie, they are status whores retarded by beauty.

    Personally, it’s hard to feel anything but contempt for women men who reward you for disrespecting them. are duped by beauty.

    You might agree that men have their own set of logic failures.

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  43. hum, I guess I need more practice with that.

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  44. anony,

    We understand that you are an ugly woman that is bitter over your lack of male attention.

    Can you take your campaign to make every male you meet a full-blown misogynist somewhere else?

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  45. on October 13, 2009 at 5:05 pm sadaboutgirls

    I don’t understand game or inner game. I think I have inner game…I don’t care what girls think, but it doesn’t work. I’m not bragging when I say I’m a very good-looking guy…girls have even screamed at me from cars, I get hit on all the time, etc.; but when I start talking to them, they usually lose interest within 5 minutes, unless it’s like artsy girls, who I’m tired of (I only like very hot girls, this limits my options a lot too). I have a guess about why…it’s not that I’m nervous, although I’ve been treated badly so many times I get tired of it and sometimes stop trying to approach girls at all. The reason is I talk about the things that interest me, and I also end up saying stuff that sounds racist or unsavory, etc. I know you’re not supposed to talk about politics with girls but I can’t help myself and I can’t bring myself to do smalltalk. The result is I usually talk about either my opinions or my travels and the stuff I’ve been doing. They usually end up thinking I’m insane.

    Yes, I have no idea how to seduce a woman verbally, and feel lame even trying. Most people who know me think I’m mentally ill, and this doesn’t help with girls. I can pretend to act normal, etc., and it works for a few minutes but then I get so impatient with the stupidity of it that I start to say things that other people find very strange. You’d think women are into interesting or unusual stuff, but they’re not. Does anyone else have this problem? It’s probably made me miss tons of pussy…even girls who approach and hit on me end up not wanting to talk to me after a few minutes, it’s happened so many times. It’s gotten so bad I’ve even stopped trying and whenever women try to catch my glance now, I avoid it, because the same thing always happens.

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  46. sadaboutgirls – if you’re good looking and getting hit on, but blowing it within minutes, then you clearly haven’t got game – inner, outer, under, over or in-between.

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  47. National pick up # for males
    ———————————-

    95% of males are married by 40

    So if you are 25, go out twice a week and ask out one girl/day you have:

    15 x 2 x 52 = 1,560 at bats left

    OR, If you marry like most by 32, you have:

    780 at bats left

    AND, if you wimp out a lot (ie, hard week, rainy out, <$) and go out once a week you have 390 at bats left.

    If one has 390 at bats left….one might think thats a shit load…..well given most get shot down 90% of time…

    that leaves 39 women you will ever have a shot at….which explains why most men report <10 lifetime partners!

    Fuck these numbers….and hit 24/7….every single day for 3-15 years with 1000-5000+ at bats !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  48. on October 13, 2009 at 5:25 pm sadaboutgirls

    km,
    It depends what you mean. Game defined as the art of charming banter, I don’t think I have it, at least not with women. Game as picking up girls–nope, I don’t have it. But look at this “inner game” post. It’s all about confidence or how you think other people see you. I don’t have any problems with that. Game defined as not being nervous or afraid to talk to girls, etc. …I have no problems there. A lot of the advice here seems to encourage confidence, and being good with girls is seen as being dominant. Well I just don’t think that’s what works with women…it’s something else, I wish I knew what it was. I’m not nervous at all, and if anything people say I’m too aggressive or come on too strong (in general, not just with women).

    In fact women seem to be really turned off by guys who live in their own worlds and have their own interests and are not willing to “play along” with some retarded version of smalltalk.

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  49. to: Sadaboutgirls

    You need to make drastic change just to change your outlook.

    -Print up some business cards with a Modeling agency at hand them out to babes or outside a local acting/film class…all colleges offer them esp. night sessions

    -Go to a bank and take out $1000 in $100 bills and send over free drinks to min. 50 women in 10 days…flash the cash

    -Post an help-wanted for a model casting -call for this saturday; screen with age/weight/height limits and headshots prior.
    Have them show up to your apt.

    Your state of mind can happen…however, the above stunts will instantly re-calibrate you if you happen to be in a locale where female beauty is over-valued (ie, not eastern europe, lat-am, asia, college)

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  50. @Patrick-
    “The Boomer Betas by and large chose the middle road between bohemianism and ambition — avoiding the risks and rewards of both (i.e. lots of hot ass) — and today stand as the prime example of who not to emulate.”

    Wise words. This has been my biggest gripe since coming back home. I am living in a suburb with my parents, after graduating from college, and the middle-ground boomer lifestyle surrounds me. There is not one thing that is not deplorable about this group. They elevate children above adults, idealize immaturity, lack balls, and furthermore, make a mockery of adulthood.

    The middle ground boomers are a group of self-indulgent miscreants who cause the booms and the busts, because they’re too concerned with going with the flow rather than realizing the flow is against what is actually good for them and everything around them.

    My grandparents generation on the other hand– they have rules and rationality. They understand life, while their dumb and spoiled children do nothing but try to live out an extended childhood.

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  51. sadaboutgirls,

    You’re in a lucky position — guys have a lot more trouble fixing bad inner game than learning outer game. If you’re good-looking and truly have great inner game, you’re set. Outer game is straightforward and literally anyone can do it with some dedication and practice.

    But you must get over this selfish obsession of yours with talking about what you want to talk about. Learn to have fun doing things that girls find fun. Learn to be interested in the things that females are interested in.

    Or just stay away from them. Your choice. But insisting that women should find your sober, serious conversation compelling when they’re out to have a good time is a dead end. In fact, insisting that women in general should be different in any way to accommodate you is an…inner-game issue.

    Accept the things you cannot change. Women are how they are. Learn what that is. Adapt.

    Complaining will get you nowhere.

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  52. on October 13, 2009 at 6:21 pm Fijian in Portland

    anony

    Personally, it’s hard to feel anything but contempt for men

    Outed yourself as a man hating misandry-ist did ya?

    Still not over the rape huh?

    You should get over it, I don’t really mean to be
    cliche, and blame the victim… If you had been fat enough before hand, you wouldn’t have been raped.

    I, Bau saying the things no one else will.

    “A pessimist is a man who thinks all women are bad. An optimist is a man who hopes they are.”

    ~Chauncey Mitchell Depew

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  53. sadaboutgirls: it sounds like you haven’t developed a great deal of social savvy as far as girls. If you just run your mouth without a brain check and say stupid shit, that’s self-sabotage. You must stop treating women as potential friends whose ear you chew off — they are a target to be gamed.

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  54. on October 13, 2009 at 7:14 pm Gunslingergregi

    Sadaboutgirls,
    God did you a favor and is keeping you safe. I wouldn’t worry about it lol

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  55. on October 13, 2009 at 7:28 pm sadaboutgirls

    Fred and JB, OK I agree but I still don’t know what you’re supposed to do for game. Obviously being confident isn’t enough. “Nice tits, let’s fuck,” doesn’t tend to work in our culture. Am I supposed to talk to them about what…sitcoms, going to the mall. I don’t understand.

    Silver are you serious?

    Gunslinger…sorry I don’t get it. Too witty for me. What am I not supposed to worry about. I’d like to get more girls. I just don’t think that being confident or dominant is enough and that’s about the only advice given here. You can be both those things and girls will still not want to talk to you or think you’re nuts.

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  56. on October 13, 2009 at 7:37 pm Gunslingergregi

    Have you tried the nice tits lets fuck when girls come up to you?

    It does work.

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  57. on October 13, 2009 at 7:37 pm Gunslingergregi

    If they are coming up to you they want to fuck no smalltalk required.

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  58. Gunny,

    Are you “me” in the other thread? You are funnier and more interesting than “me”, but both of your posting styles are similar. So are you “me” or not “me”?

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  59. on October 13, 2009 at 7:42 pm Gunslingergregi

    Like I am in a club and a woman comes up and grabs my ass.

    A. She wants to about the mall or sitcoms.

    B. She wants me to grab her and grind.

    C. She wants me to take her home and fuck.

    D. She wants to chat about the weather.

    Answer:

    B and C

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  60. on October 13, 2009 at 7:43 pm Gunslingergregi

    me was me just at someone elses comp so was debating whether or not to have name autoload then said f it.

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  61. on October 13, 2009 at 7:56 pm Gunslingergregi

    Or another scenario.

    At the chicks house. A week before her friend was holding a kitty and I made a sexual inuendo.

    She makes a comment about my flip flops I wear and that it is cold. I say I don’t give a fuck because I was iraq 5 years and am tired of wearing boots.

    See her again she is acting funny keeps giving me the eye and keeps saying she has to leave to her friend but stays and is dancing provocatively to the music.

    The chick whose house it is calls over another chick and they whispering and shit about how this chick acting wierd and how she about to get ass beat that she better get her own man or some shit.

    Anyway conclusion:

    A. She wants to about the mall or sitcoms.

    B. She wants me to slip her my number in secret

    C. She wants me to take her home and fuck.

    D. She wants to chat about the weather.

    Answer:

    B and C

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  62. on October 13, 2009 at 8:08 pm Fijian in Portland

    Guns..Gregi:

    “…woman comes up and grabs my ass.

    See her again she is acting funny keeps giving me the eye…
    {and} this chick acting wierd and how she… better get her own man…”

    By no means in anyway shape or form, is either of these girls a victim of rape.

    I, Bau said that.

    “They call it PMS because Mad Cow Disease was already taken.”

    ~Author Unknown

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  63. on October 13, 2009 at 8:11 pm HUNGRY HUNGRY HIPPOS YO

    “anony
    @Basil,
    repeating your comments above,

    No one pays attention to his her valid point, except one chick man to accuse him her of being bitter. Yet another example of how women men
    1) Do not take responsibility for their actions
    2) Do not think logically
    3) Eviscerate betas ugly women regardless of the merits of theirher argument.

    Women Men cannot evaluate something without considering the status beauty of the person girl who said it. Ie, they are status whores retarded by beauty.

    Personally, it’s hard to feel anything but contempt for women men who reward you for disrespecting them. are duped by beauty.

    You might agree that men have their own set of logic failures.”

    That’s straight up fuckin retarded and you know it. Stupid shit is way more likely to spew forth from the mouth of a particularly hot woman because she doesn’t need to develop any real substance or intelligence to be socially accepted and even worshipped. MRAs don’t around saying Andrea Dworkin only thought they way she did and said horrible things about men because she was ugly, or at least I hope not. Women constantly respond to exposition of the injustices of the mating market with circumstantial ad-hominem like it’s their fucking job.

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  64. on October 13, 2009 at 8:19 pm Fijian in Portland

    HUNGRY HUNGRY HIPPOS YO:

    Women constantly respond to exposition of the injustices of the mating market with circumstantial ad-hominem like it’s their fucking job.

    True Word.

    I, Bau have spoken.

    “It is only rarely that one can see in a little boy the promise of a man, but one can almost always see in a little girl the threat of a woman.”

    ~Alexandre Dumas, fils

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  65. Women constantly respond to exposition of the injustices of the mating market with circumstantial ad-hominem like it’s their fucking job.

    Actually, it is their job. It’s the job of women to try to define the social space. To shame sluts. To gain as much power for their sex as they can. To gain as much personal prestige as possible.

    It is the prime job of women to socially jockey, and they do this socially – in teams. The sisterhood is a vague idea that disappears under close scrutiny into a sea of backstabbing bitches, but when you back up, it pops into focus again.

    It isn’t the job of women to think clearly. That’s obvious. They care nothing about that. It’s their job to get as much power and prestige individually and as a group as possible.

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  66. Fijian, are you a troll? What’s with this “I, Bau” schtick. Are you deliberately being irritating? Or do you just not realize how irritating that phrase is?

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  67. sad,

    Are you seriously asking for Game to be handed to you on a silver platter in a comments section?

    Roissy once posted his recommendations for books/DVDs on Game. Find that post and you’ll be set for 3-4 months of study, easy.

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  68. on October 13, 2009 at 9:03 pm sadaboutgirls

    Well here’s the thing I’m not willing to do stupid routines and rules and this kind of thing…I like gunslinger’s stories better, unfortunately after they approach me they want to talk and that’s where it goes wrong…sometimes they even make out with me, but I don’t take them home.

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  69. “My grandparents generation on the other hand– they have rules and rationality. They understand life, while their dumb and spoiled children do nothing but try to live out an extended childhood.”

    interesting to hear from a guy named “Kerouac”.

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  70. Well here’s the thing I’m not willing to do stupid routines and rules and this kind of thing…I like gunslinger’s stories better, unfortunately after they approach me they want to talk and that’s where it goes wrong…sometimes they even make out with me, but I don’t take them home.

    You have no inner game despite your claim to the contrary. You are just egotistical. That is in reality the opposite of inner game, since this built up persona you have of yourself as this ultra desirable male isn’t congruent with what you feel subconsciously (and women are smelling that whiff of non-congruent beta) and it isn’t matching up with what you are actually experiencing. Your self-image has no basis in reality.

    If you aren’t getting women doing what you are doing, then you are probably going to continue not getting women. It’s really that simple.

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  71. @sadaboutgirls you should probably just try not talking at all and running gunwitch game. It’s probably easier for you to talk less and just run physical game.

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  72. As an actual piece of advice ‘sadaboutgirls’, if you are really attractive, you are going to need to be aggressive. A guy who doesn’t have instant attraction on his side can schmooze like Style and build attraction with charm. For you it is apparently not necessary.

    Trying to be too ‘charming’ as hot guy is itself a sign that you have little confidence or you are simply not attracted to the woman you are talking to. For you the ‘Nice tits, lets fuck’ line might be your best bet.

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  73. Also @sadaboutgirls if you are good looking, there is an expectation that your ‘game is at least on par’ with your looks. I forget who it was (roissy?) but someone stated that you are better off being average looking and having great game, than being good looking and having terrible game… the bar is alot higher if you are good looking.

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  74. It happens often in social circles, there’ll be a guy who’s good looking but has little game. And some girl, usually a cute but not hot one, will pursue him and make him her boyfriend.

    Guys without game have trouble expressing their personality around strangers (aka being the fun person they are around their friends), but they get around that by being in a social circle with a girl.

    But at a bar, good-looking guys don’t have this luxury.

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  75. Well K, like I said it’s happened so many times I’ve become very disappointed and hardly try to approach girls anymore, even avoid them in crowded situations, and I’m not ashamed to admit that; I know that in that sense I’m not desirable for some reason. However, I honestly don’t think I give off a “beta” vibe. That’s what my post is about. I’m not nervous around people, I don’t put girls on a pedestal, and if anything people say I come on too strong (I don’t mean in a sexual way). Obviously that’s not enough, and I’m writing because a lot of these posts imply being confident or believing yourself desirable is “game,” when it obviously isn’t. I know as a matter of fact, from numerous experiences that people find me physically desirable, and inwardly I think I’m quite confident, no one would think to call me “beta”-type; but girls still avoid me after I begin to talk to them. It’s clear that you need more than to believe or know yourself desirable and to be confident; you also need some way to relate to women and talk to them and I can’t do that. I feel lame trying to chat them up on their own terms, and won’t do it; and if I talk about the things that I’m interested in they start to think I’m crazy. I also can’t stand to listen to their stupid stories.

    My point is this, “game” is something more than just confidence, but what is it?

    epiclolz I’m afraid you’re right, some of the times I have success are when I pretend I’m foreign and say very little. However I have very little patience in general and I just can’t stand to hear these harpies yapping and just standing there and humoring them.

    I’m tired of laying “artsy” girls, I only want very hot ones now.

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  76. off topic…alpha of the month nom, Pedro Cuperman:

    A 40-year-old woman who calls herself an “abortion addict,” claims she terminated 15 pregnancies in 17 years, The Los Angeles Times reported….

    When she was 16, Vilar met a man 34 years her senior, whom she would eventually marry. ….

    Vilar describes her first husband, Pedro Cuperman, as “a disturbingly handsome man,” who believed “families are a nest of suffering” – and having children was off the table.

    She said he chose her to be his wife because he thought of younger women as “unformed . . . unfinished, with not too many wounds.”…..

    Vilar rebelled during her relationship with Cuperman by “forgetting” to take her birth control pills. When she would find out she was pregnant, she would feel joy at first, then panic – because she didn’t want to lose her husband. [note: true alpha doesn’t even have to act to keep his woman in line]

    http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-abortion-memoir13-2009oct13,0,7832320.story

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  77. Sad, I’m not sure if you are communicating that girls quickly get disappointed when talking to you, or the converse. It would stand to reason that if you are bored, the other person will feel no electric spark.

    What is it that you want out of the conversations with girls? Is that something that men could just as well provide? Perhaps you could focus on what is females uniquely provide. If it’s sex you want, why not give up on trying to have manly conversations, and just flirt, sexually?

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  78. on October 13, 2009 at 11:41 pm unlearning genius

    ME: old badger, how do i get good at golf?
    OLD BADGER: oh son, go to the golf club every saturday son, pay attention to that mother fucking ball ..
    ME: wow, thanks old man, my inner game is now solid.

    Where i ask is the mother-fucking gem of an insight that will short circuit my learning curve or take me to my next level.. thats what the junta asks for .. not some impressive sounding hollow drumbeat from an old badger who has probably back-rationalized his life .. duh, everybody knows the basics .. to get laid ..you need to physically approach a woman .. yes you also need to probably say something coherent .. yes you probably need to take your clothes off at some point and yes you do need to use your pelvic muscles too. True wisdom is so rare in the world indeed.

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  79. on October 14, 2009 at 1:02 am Fijian in Portland

    xsplat:

    Fijian, are you a troll? What’s with this “I, Bau” schtick. Are you deliberately being irritating? Or do you just not realize how irritating that phrase is?

    Answer 1. No, no more then anyone else who comes here for socialization, debate and conversation.

    Trolls are peeps like Sara I, Dizzy, Anony. DA. GNPeter isn’t a troll technically. There is some debate that this very blog is a sophisticated troll.

    Answer 2 Whats with my name? Its a Signature. I hadn’t intended my sig to irritate, and ya now in a way, I am thankful that it does.

    Bau is my first name, Mom named me after the island I was born on. My email address is Bau.Hamilton (at) yahoo (.) com. Its an ancient latin Sig.

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    I, Claudius.

    “Physically, a man is a man for a much longer time than a woman is a woman.”

    -Honoré de Balzac, The Physiology of Marriage

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  80. on October 14, 2009 at 1:50 am Comment Ninja

    “Girls still avoid me after I begin to talk to them.”

    Without having a face-to-face conversation with you, it’s almost impossible to know what the problem could be.

    For example, most people are unaware of awkward mannerisms they may have when interacting with others in social situations. If you don’t film yourself or have an honest person critique you on what you’re doing wrong you may never know what they are.

    It’s possible to have a high opinion of yourself and also have bad body language.

    If women are physically attracted to you but leave almost immediately you also might have bad breath or body odor.

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  81. on October 14, 2009 at 1:58 am Gunslingergregi

    ”””””sadaboutgirls
    Well here’s the thing I’m not willing to do stupid routines and rules and this kind of thing…I like gunslinger’s stories better, unfortunately after they approach me they want to talk and that’s where it goes wrong…sometimes they even make out with me, but I don’t take them home.
    ””””””’

    Make up some business cards then hand them out to every chick you see in your life that you find attractive. At some point you will score.

    Start with:

    Do you have a boyfriend?

    She says no.

    You hand her card and then say:

    Cool we should go out then.

    Then walk off.

    So yea getting away with 11 words here.
    Now when they call invite for weekend at a hotel.
    They either say yes or no.
    Maybe another 11 or so words.
    Then hang the fuck up.
    Then go for weekend and just fuck.
    Then maybe develop into more if she is your type.

    But if your kissing chicks and not taking them home why is that?
    Are you not asking?
    How much talking could possibly go on once you already got to kissing. You should already be playing her body like a violin at that point and words are but a few.
    So your their kissing and then stop to talk about weather.
    Not quit understanding problem.

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  82. Yet another thread devolves into helping a man who refuses to help himself. And David Alexander isn’t even here…

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  83. on October 14, 2009 at 2:42 am Gunslingergregi

    ””’Where i ask is the mother-fucking gem of an insight that will short circuit my learning curve or take me to my next level.. ””””’

    Become a freeman and nothing else matters. You will be able to maximize the potential in any situation. You can have your own contest where woman line up and make fools of themselves and do whatever you want just for a chance to date you. All the woman you can handle at your fingertips. Go forth and take it to the next level.

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  84. on October 14, 2009 at 2:43 am Gunslingergregi

    How are you doing in the game jackson?
    Having luck?

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  85. Ovid

    Maybe the herbification of modern men is the rough equivalent of the slobification of modern women.

    I’ll bet a ton of thought went into that comment.

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  86. Roissy,
    “Suburban street smarts”? Isn’t that an oxymoron?

    Please explain?

    The Obsidian

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  87. A lip gloss that comes with a date rape drug testing kit has been launched in the UK with plans to make it available in vending machines in bar and club toilets. The five 2LoveMyLips gloss products contain a drug testing kit in the form of a pink taper that can detect GHB and Ketamine.

    Say, is this a Max Factor product?

    If it isn’t, it ought to be!

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  88. sad: It’s clear that you need more than to believe or know yourself desirable and to be confident; you also need some way to relate to women and talk to them and I can’t do that. I feel lame trying to chat them up on their own terms, and won’t do it; and if I talk about the things that I’m interested in they start to think I’m crazy. I also can’t stand to listen to their stupid stories.

    My point is this, “game” is something more than just confidence, but what is it?

    Sad, exactly. With just inner game, if you go out long enough, you will of course score, but it’s still game of luck. So I don’t think it’s “lack of inner game” in your (or to less extent mine) case, this is precisely what I was writing about in earlier comment. There definitely are other elements. Basically to answer “what do you talk about”, first you *tease*, which is as someone put it, verbal foreplay. You learn how to do it by practicing it and that’s the part that I think some people can do easier than other. Then you pay attention not to what is said but to dynamics of what’s going on – is she testing you, is she bored, etc. Then once/if she’s attracted you go by your standard gameplan – qualify why you like her (nice tits), comfort (not needed with nice tits type pickup), escalate (let’s fuck).
    As far as whether there’s anything else besides teasing to create attraction, maybe some more systematic approach, that’s what I’d like to know myself.

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  89. sad,

    I feel lame trying to chat them up on their own terms, and won’t do it; and if I talk about the things that I’m interested in they start to think I’m crazy. I also can’t stand to listen to their stupid stories.

    My point is this, “game” is something more than just confidence, but what is it?

    It’s the shit you won’t do.

    You have serious inner-game issues. You keep asking, “What is Game?”

    When told, you say, “I refuse to do that.”

    Just reread this crap you wrote to see how far you are internally from being ready to execute good Game:

    I feel lame trying to chat them up on their own terms, and won’t do it; and if I talk about the things that I’m interested in they start to think I’m crazy. I also can’t stand to listen to their stupid stories.

    It’s all in there. You “feel lame.” Nobody with good inner game feels lame. When do you feel lame? When you’re trying to talk to another person “on their own terms.” How could you possibly connect with another person while harboring this kind of contempt for who she is? What do you think Game is except talking to women on their terms? Do you even understand that women are human beings?

    You don’t deserve to be successful with women. And that’s why you’re not.

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  90. on October 14, 2009 at 10:54 am Fijian in Portland

    Biting Beaver:

    “LIP GLOSS that prevents DATE RAPE.”

    Dumb cunt, you got it wrong again…

    and this is why…

    Thanks for playing… and for assuring us that reality is constant.

    I, Bau have spoken.

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  91. goes back to being mysterious. the less she knows about you, the more she will fill in the details with what she wants, if your core confidence is solid/sound.

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  92. Obsidian

    Roissy,
    “Suburban street smarts”? Isn’t that an oxymoron?

    Please explain?

    The Obsidian

    Even though I have a sense of humor, I am compelled to agree with Obsid.

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  93. jackson,

    Yet another thread devolves into helping a man who refuses to help himself.

    Yeah, there’s no helping sadaboutgirls at this point. But ridicule and abuse of him could be instructive to eavesdroppers who may be slipping into the same stupid mindset.

    I think men who worry about Game knowledge getting too widespread don’t factor in scared losers like sadaboutgirls. For some AFCs, Game really is a revelation — all they needed was to get some insight into how things really work, and they take it from there.

    But some AFCs are like sadaboutgirls — once they know what to do, they still won’t do it. They want to be sad about girls.

    Any average-looking guy working through confidence issues should take heart from sadaboutgirls’ example. Here’s a good-looking guy who is so confident that he thinks he’s God’s gift to women — but he’s got no game and refuses to get any. That’s the playing field — often the apparent competition isn’t competitive at all.

    So if you see a good-looking, self-satisfied guy chatting up a hot girl, pay close attention to the girl’s facial expression. Does she look bored and a little creeped out? If so, the dude is probably sadaboutgirls. Go right in and blow him out. It’ll be easy, and she’ll be grateful to you.

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  94. I figured that it would have been stupefyingly obvious to anyone who isn’t a log that “suburban street smarts” was a joke and a figure of speech.

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  95. Gun,

    I do okay. About 1 new girl every 2 months. Which is six times better than last year.

    My secret? Getting off my ass and doing something about it, not filling pages with excuses as to why I can’t.

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  96. on October 14, 2009 at 11:33 am Gunslingergregi

    Good to hear dude.

    Just be carefull out there. The boogieman is real his name is “I’m Late” he he he

    Unless of course it is someone you want to be late.

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  97. I have to say that sadaboutgirls really is a great big loser. All he’s doing is whining but he refuses to take any action beyond commenting on a blog about what a loser he is. I have all the sympathy in the world for guys trying to improve their situation, but you have to put in some kind of effort. There’s no magic pill dumbass.

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  98. sadaboutgirls:

    As far as Mystery Method — forget about routines for now and familiarize yourself with the phases of Game – approach, getting her attracted, getting her to invest, comfort, etc.

    Understand how it breaks down structurally and you may recognize what mistakes you’re making.

    If you can approach and get indicators of interest from a girl, are you getting her to invest? Are you applying progressive kino? Getting to comfort, etc.?

    First step is understanding your sticking points, where in the process are you going off the rails?

    Game is like practicing a jumpshot in basketball, you want to square up, eye the rim, adjust elbow position, etc.

    Anyone of those off can screw you up.

    So at least understand the basics of Game.

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  99. Obsidian´s last attempt to start a race thread was so lame that even I, as race-thread-groupie as one can get, refuse to repply

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  100. Are you implying
    Obsidian requires
    Affirmative Action
    to ignite a race thread

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  101. Obsidian is, however, making heroic efforts to turn the excellent new Girl Game blog into a race-o-rama.

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  102. on October 14, 2009 at 1:49 pm sadaboutgirls

    Well thanks JB and other people for some advice. As to everyone else chimping out over my replies, my point is really very simple, and Stud Dynamite got it. This blog and similar ones encourage you to be confident and dominant…this is identified as being alpha and “game” and it tells you women will like it. Well that’s just not true. You may need to do that, but you also need to do a lot more, and I’m not sure about what that is. JB gave me some hint words to look up so I’ll do that.

    But again I’m very skeptical of this idea that being confident, etc. is enough. I’m quite confident and I’m also very attractive and fit and I totally suck at getting girls. Almost any girls I’ve gotten were by luck, who pursued me despite whatever it is I’m doing wrong, which I’m sure is a lot.

    What annoys me and what’s related to my point is I see a lot of indy-type hipster dorks who I think are totally unmanly, but they’re successful with girls…sorry…I just don’t buy this line you guys have developed here that all you need to do is be confident or dominant or look manly. Otherwise you wouldn’t get all these indy dork types being so successful. Also, just about the most dominant/alpha kind of guy is a Putin or Soviet type. You think they’d do well in a bar in a US city?

    I would like some people to post actual game advice instead of “just be confident/dominant body language/etc.” that on its own doesn’t necessarily work. Or recommend some online resource. Sorry Rake, I’m a loser and don’t have $3000 to blow on a seminar in San Francisco.

    And yes, girls’ conversation does bore me to no end…if you really find what girls have to say interesting you’re a big fag.

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  103. @ sadaboutgirls-

    Ted Bundy was a good looking guy. He was also a creepy fuck who like to chop people up. As much as guys on here like to talk about “serial killer game”, there’s a fine line between intriguing women with intimations of a dark past, and straight up alienating/creeping them out. It sounds like that’s your real hurdle to overcome, more so than lack of confidence or beta behavior.

    Why do most people think you’re mentally ill? At what point in the conversation do you usually find women backing away slowly? What specific topics do you tend to bring up while talking to them?

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  104. PA

    Obsidian is, however, making heroic efforts to turn the excellent new Girl Game blog into a race-o-rama.

    And now, my beloved PA implies Obsid (for some odd reason) can’t resist sniffing around an exclusionist, white-only poon fest.

    Are you an assassin?
    The Horror

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  105. sadaboutgirls revealed:

    This blog and similar ones encourage you to be confident and dominant…this is identified as being alpha and “game” and it tells you women will like it. Well that’s just not true.

    Dood – you are so right!

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  106. on October 14, 2009 at 2:27 pm sadaboutgirls

    Firepower…no, I think it’s right, it’s just not enough. I’m also confused about all these indy hipster fucktards and why girls like them.

    Anonymous, I know I say some strange stuff, but I’d expect girls to find that interesting. Apparently they don’t and you’re supposed to discuss what their friends had for lunch yesterday. I can’t bring myself to do that.

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  107. (I’m not anonymous, just can’t log in here!)

    @ sadaboutgirls –

    Be more specific about this “strange stuff”. What do you talk about SPECIFICALLY that causes women to avoid you?

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  108. @sad you might be a good candidate for just going apocalypse or (again)gunwitch – http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=46286

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  109. sad sounds like he Asperger’s.

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  110. on October 14, 2009 at 7:26 pm Gunslingergregi

    Sad is just playing can ya tell

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  111. sadaboutgirls said:

    Well here’s the thing I’m not willing to do stupid routines and rules and this kind of thing…I like gunslinger’s stories better

    out of everything you read on this blog you like human spambot gunslinger’s contributions the best? well there’s your problem then, you’re obviously brain damaged.

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  112. The dude reminds me of Clint Eastwood’s character in “Gran Torino.”

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  113. @epiclolz
    thanks 😛

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  114. He reminds me of the Marlboro Man’s dad… Anyone remember the Mickey Rourke movie – “my old man used to say, before he left this shitty world…” – same kind of useful shit.

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  115. sadaboutgirls:
    I’m thinking you might come across as a nonconformist, which doesn’t work for everyone. If you hate small talk, that’s probably perceived by other people as lacking social skills; your conversations might sound abrupt or bizarre. In my experience, girls like confidence, but not non-participation.

    I’m not entirely sure how to express this, but you sound like you come off as unhappy — likable people are happy to meet you, happy to be at this party, happy to be dancing, not trying to resist the situation they’re in at that moment. If you never find yourself saying, “Isn’t this _____ great?” something’s probably wrong with your conversational style.

    I’m a shy person myself, naturally. The easiest way round it, I found, was simply to be honestly positive. I do like meeting people, and I do like most people I meet, and warm enthusiasm goes a long way. In my experience, as well, the happiest guy in the room attracts the most girls.

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  116. […] was first introduced to shit my dad says on Citizen Renegade’s blog post All The Inner Game You’ll Ever Need, which has some quotes from the twitter page that Justin Halpern put that his dad said. It is funny […]

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