National Geographic Agrees: The Human Alpha Male Is Real

National Geographic has an illuminating series on alpha males in the human wilds, documenting a slew of experiments which demonstrate that the term ‘alpha’ has validity as a descriptor of the top dog in emergent human male hierarchies. The bitter sperg denialists of the CH worldview are gonna have to retire their empty-headed argument that alpha is a taxonomic term that only applies to wolves. 🙄

There’s a lot to chew on in this video, so take some time to watch the whole thing. Right in line with Heartiste game techniques, the experiments vindicate the idea that adopting “power poses” and other mannerisms of the alpha male pack leader can actually make a man feel more alpha, and more importantly will make him be perceived as more alpha by other men and by women. This is nothing less than total validation of the game concept of “fake it till you make it”.

Video highlights:

– Being a big man automatically confers alpha status, but the effect is contextual. A small man with the right attitude, as you will see later in the video, can out-alpha a big man.

– Conversely, being a little man automatically confers beta status, unless the little man acts in a way to dispel the assumption. So, yeah, you shorter men have an extra hurdle to clear that taller men don’t have. But it is surmountable.

– There really are body language and voice “tells” that reveal whether a man is alpha or beta. These subtle mate value cues have been discussed numerous times before on CH. Check the archives. A man with tight game knows that body language and tonality — how to stand, sit, make eye contact, speak with authority — are crucial components of seduction.

– Don’t ever put your palm facing up when challenged by anyone. It’s a classic submissive gesture.

– Remember, when shaking hands, try to position your hand so that it lays slightly atop the hand of the person you’re greeting. Most people will acquiesce quietly to this dominance move. (Knowledgable CH readers will notice it right away and attempt a counter-maneuver, resulting in a hilarious hand-twisting spectacle resembling a game of thumb wrestling.)

– It’s better to hold eye contact to the point of discomfort than to avert your gaze prematurely.

– Men with salt and pepper hair shouldn’t bother getting it dyed. The touch of gray is a high status cue. (Note: Does not work the same for women, who will just look old and unsexy with gray hair.)

– When you hug, make sure your arms are on the outside of the hugbox.

– Take up space, own the space, claim other people’s space. Any vagina within that space will then assume it is subject to your jurisdiction, and behave accordingly.

– A smaller, less stereotypically masculine man, can out-alpha bigger and harder-looking men by using simple mannerism tricks. Proof that alpha is more about attitude than appearance.

– Don’t sit at the corners of a rectangular table.

– You might think that being the Number 2 Alpha would be enough to get plenty of girls, but female hypergamy is insatiable. Number 1 gets exponentially more attention than Number 2 gets from women.

– Alpha males PROJECT their voices. I have yet to meet a successful salesman who didn’t have a booming voice that commanded attention. You may think an obnoxiously loud voice is the Call of the Douchebag but, you know, chicks dig douchebags. Are you gonna bitch about it or are you gonna play to win?

– There’s a reason a seductive male voice is a register lower in tone: It sounds dominant. For those men who don’t have naturally deep voices, it is possible to practice speaking in a lower tone, and to avoid reverting to a higher-pitched beta singsong. See the “get out of my box” experiment in the video. Really outstanding demonstration of how a stronger vocal tone can immediately command respect and obeisance from others.

– Having a woman around you, silently and subconsciously judging your male qualities, can boost your alphaness. This may explain the phenomenon of beta male orbiters; perhaps they realize on some deep level that they act stronger in the company of a woman than they do alone, or with other men. This doesn’t compensate for their wretched beta supplication and willingness to be used as emotional tampons, but you can’t fault them for trying to find and exploit any edge, no matter how trivial.

– The “sneaky fucker” strategy really does work.

– Direct game (like the kind Naftalie uses on the girl at around the 28:30 minute mark) has its place in any man’s arsenal of allure, but it’s clear that bold direct game is a high risk, high reward proposition. If the girl doesn’t take your direct game bait, you can quickly be out-alphaed by *her*. Indirect game is lower risk, lower reward but, like the parable of the tortoise and the hare, it’s my observation that, over the long run, the ingenuity of indirect game will result in more successful pickups.

– For those interested in the racial angle, it appears black men have more “up front” alpha body language — that is, black men engage in more conspicuous alpha displays such as strutting, bellowing, and space monopolizing. But white men (and in particular nerdy ectomorphs) have a compensating version of alpha game that can neutralize heavy-handed posturing by more physically aggressive adversaries: They lean on their smarts. (See the tech-savvy display at the 27:30 mark.) There are, indeed, plenty of exceptions to this rule. See, for example, the total lack of strutting by another black guy in the group, Isem.

– Open body language beats closed body language, nearly every time. Exception: Any time a beatdown that you want to avoid is imminent. #LiveToSeduceAnotherDay

– If you posture or behave like a beta male, you will FEEL like a beta male, and women will practically SMELL the beta stink on you. So make it a habit to posture like an alpha male as often as possible. That alpha male posturing will transform you into a real life, breathing alpha male, even down to your hormones.

– WE ARE HARD-WIRED, BIOMECHANICAL AUTOMATONS carrying out the directives of ancient genetic algorithms. We are also expert at deluding ourselves otherwise.

– Acting like an alpha isn’t all poon-chasing fun and games. It also lowers cortisol levels. Low stress is a formula for a long, healthy life.

– Alpha humans, like alpha apes, react to the world with amused mastery. Grace under pressure is chicknip. Sometimes it’s to your benefit to sit back and let the beta males and the women squabble amongst themselves.

– At around 36:00 minutes in, we see what happens when the putative alpha male of the group, Naftalie, is challenged by an interloper alpha male (the AMOG). This scene is great as a teaching aid for how to handle AMOGs cramping your style. Commenter YaReally will be very pleased with this scene, because it affirms a lot of his anti-AMOG tactical knowledge; namely, stay calm, stay positive, groom the group, and don’t let the challenger get under your skin.

A few final thoughts:

Some men, like Naftalie, are great alpha males of MEN, but not so great alpha males of WOMEN. This is a not so uncommon disjunct that one finds in some leaders of men who are not very good at being seducers of women. We all know that captain of industry (in whatever flavor) who nonetheless acts like a dullard or an oaf in the company of women. Generally, alpha males of men are also alpha males of women, as the dominance required for the former is also attractive to the latter. But disjuncts do occur, and this opens windows of opportunity for men who may not be leaders of other men, but who are leaders of their own emotions and experts at speaking the female language of love.

Under extreme duress or threat, white knighting as a strategy to bang women may actually work, (see the last experiment in the video). But you have to be prepared to back up your white knight posturing with real intention.

Ever notice how most primatologists in the field are women? It’s almost as if… chicks dig dangerous apes!

Chateau Heartiste is proud to see the concepts of this community, and the wider game community, spreading into the mainstream. I expect the whining and shrieking denials of haters to reach a very beta-ish fever pitch in the coming years.

***

One more final thought: For those of you men still doubting the seductive power of alphatude, think on how you feel when you see a gorgeous woman with an hourglass figure, bodacious titties, and a firm round ass pass by you. Now remind yourself that the immediate thermonuclear blast of lust which you feel then is the SAME feeling that women have when they are in the company of a dominant alpha male. They, like you, can’t help themselves. It’s just the way they were drawn.





Comments


  1. LOL

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/photo-public-sex-act-rape-woman-article-1.1487092

    Female gets busted getting Michael Douglas’d in public, shamed on Internet for her slutiness, cries rape as a defense, The Cathedral abides.

    Like


    • i saw that headline earlier and skipped the read assuming the ‘rape’ wasn’t ‘goldberg rape-rape’ level. which is amusing and sad at the same time. ten years ago i’d be appalled at myself

      Like


      • Good job CH !
        glad to see you’re back from your string of geo-politico ramblings.
        Hormesis, then this.

        Back in your regular readership.
        THanks

        Like


    • slut w buyers remorse. who knew.

      Like


    • Now we can look forward to colored ribbons and candlelight vigils to raise awareness of the growing menace of sidewalk cunnilingual rape.

      Like


    • It is truly terrifying how much power for life destruction is wielded by Womyn. Like you said, had some regret for being a whore in public and now it is rape. The dude even if found innocent is now in a high profile case and will wear it the rest of his life like a scarlet letter. And you wonder why it is important to strike terror into these skanks? Hit me with a rape charge bitch, and they can then tack murder onto it too when I lullaby your ass. And as a side note HE was giving her oral sex. Very rapey…

      Like


      • Most sluts crying rape are irrational. They can’t take responsibility for getting themselves into these situations, which most of the time aren’t rape but buyer’s remorse.

        How come liberals never shame debouched activity like sidewalk oral sex?

        Like


      • Because that would be putting bounds on their depravity. They only desire others to be limited in what they are allowed to do.

        Like


      • 100% true. They don’t like shaming immorality, because labeling something or someone good/bad right/wrong puts limitation on their unbridled activity. They took all shaming out of the conversation. Everything goes, so long as it makes you feel good. No other consideration need apply.

        However, they are so hypocritical that they put limits on our shaming them, but not on them shaming us when we don’t like their depravity.

        That women is a ho plain and simple. She felt good doing this at the time; she had no interest in controlling her slut impulse. Then she turns around and blames the guy for forcing her. Call a spade a spade. They call it hate speech.

        Like


  2. I watched this on TV back in late winter/early spring. Very interesting. The scene where they all pose for a picture was quite illuminating. The alpha spreads out, puts his arms on the arms of two other men, who instinctively lean in and cover their genitals with their hands. After, the alpha quickly approaches the attractive photographer as the betas converse amongst each other. He’s shot down and seems a bit taken aback, but quickly recovers.

    This was cool. Thanks for posting CH.

    Like


    • it was a really good post, yes.

      and ladies do not forget his one big takeaway for you. gray hairs can easily arrive in your thirties. if we see them we assume the carpet matches the drapes and our hearts quail. so please.

      Like


    • Hold the phone …

      What ever happened to alpha male status being defined by female conquest? This excellent report is all about how dudes dominate other dudes, and female attraction as an unmentioned, non-germane, secondary effect.

      Glad to see you coming around. Now are you ready to talk about the alpha dynamic’s applicability beyond obvious ploys to land easy drunken pussy at midnight of the sexual revolution?

      See, these kind of nostalgic loyalties to What Brung You (the art of pick up) is why I’d prefer to thank the kindly old pioneers and start fresh with a new generation who will not center their lives around the almighty Pussilaya.

      Matt

      Like


    • Nat Geo prog: I ain’t so sure. You can hardly believe a single damn thing you see on TV these days, and those supposed grease monkeys (Naftalie and the rest) look to me like actors.

      It’s all just too neat. The textbook examples of alpha and beta behavior come thick and fast, which is convenient for the narrators, but which makes me think it was all scripted. Real life is far untidier than that.

      Watch it a second time and see if you don’t agree with me.

      Like


  3. on October 16, 2013 at 12:39 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

    hey hearteietstzz!!!! someone shot a video of da ALPHA MALE GBFM on vaavctionsz!!!


    zlzoozzozzozoz

    Like


  4. “There’s a reason a seductive male voice is a register lower in tone: It sounds dominant. ”

    I love a deep voice. Could be because I am especially attuned to voices as a singing person. Coincidentally or not, my father has a particularly low and resonant voice (as I have inherited it seems).

    And y’all can expose one thousand and one ways that Obama’s mannerisms are beta. But then that man says one word and redeems himself instantaneously. You can hate, but the dude’s speaking voice is perfection.

    [CH: His beta body language belies his alpha voice. So close your eyes and dream of Kenya.]

    Like


    • Funny, back in 2008 the first time I heard Obama’s voice, I said a lot of women would like him simply because of his voice…and then a woman in the comment section of a political blog said ( in response to my comment ) that his voice was like molasses; no matter what he was saying it sounded good with his “molasses” voice.

      Like


    • Obama is a mix of alpha and beta characteristics. I don’t get the impression he’s faced much adversity in his life, which is why he might be a little soft.

      Like


      • I don’t get the impression he’s faced much adversity in his life, which is why he might be a little soft.

        No sheeit. He got a free escalator ride to the top courtesy of The Cathedral.

        [CH: a very simple question for the obamanauts who think their savior deserves the presidency: if he had been white, how far do you think he would have gotten? reaction time in your answer will go toward your final score.]

        Like


      • And you got a free spot at the bottom courtesy of ….your lack of talent!!!

        Like


      • Had Obama never campaigned he would still have gotten elected because the left controlled media – what most people know as the main stream media – was in love with him in ways that have never been seen before ( in ways that make me want to vomit) and they brainwashed the ignorant gullible masses into voting for him.

        He was presented as a savior of the same caliber as Jesus.

        The left was so much in love with him that the leftists at the Nobel Prize gave Obama a Nobel Prize for having accomplished ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

        And the 95% of blacks who voted for him for no other reason than because he was black would have voted for him no matter what.

        The election of Obama was the largest case of mass insanity the USA has ever suffered. ( his re-election was a bad case of relapse)

        With Obama in charge the USA is falling apart, it has for the first time in history lost its perfect credit rating, there are more conflicts in the Middle East than when Bush was President, the IRS – under Obama’s watch – spying on right wing groups is a scandal about ten thousand times bigger than what Nixon did ( yet the media swept it under the carpet ), the debt has reached insane levels never seen in the history of the WHOLE PLANET, and I could go on all night with examples of the growing mess the USA is and that Obama seems happy to be creating

        The man is a disaster

        Don’t forget it was under his watch women got the pill for free so they could fuck around like little whores at your expense

        Had the media done its job and informed the people about Obama’s past ( he was friends with anti-USA terrorist Bill Ayers to name one thing ) and lack of accomplishments and competence he would have never gotten elected.

        The way they got Obama to the top so fast with the free ride on the escalator ( as Corvinus said) the Cathedral must have been on crack, on steroids and must have had a turbo up their asses.

        Never has an incompetent man been hoisted so high so fast.

        Like


      • The election of Obama was the largest case of mass insanity the USA has ever suffered. ( his re-election was a bad case of relapse)

        It was also solid proof that democracy is a complete f*cking joke.

        Like


      • It gets worse with every election cycle, regardless of which party or president is in office. Or haven’t you noticed?

        Like


      • “He was presented as a savior of the same caliber as Jesus.”

        Exactly. He was called the savior or the anointed one. Liberal idiots thought he would save them from all their troubles because the media painted him that way. It’s easy to dupe stupid people.
        .

        The Nobel Prize is proof you don’t have to accomplish anything meaningful for lefties to worship you. Just as long as you’re a sworn lefty, that is, you could do no wrong. I often say that lefties would vote for an axe murder, so long as he’s a lefty. They would vote for Charles Manson if he espoused their liberal/communist agenda. They have no scruples.

        If Obama truly respected himself, he would have declined the Nobel Prize on grounds he hasn’t accomplished anything yet as president, and if they want to evaluate him after a few years on the job and still give it to him he’d accept. Of course, that means he’d have to display humbleness, and Obama doesn’t know the concept of humbleness. Anyone who accepts praise or prize void of accomplishment is a weasel. No honor = no alpha.
        .

        “And the 95% of blacks who voted for him for no other reason than because he was black would have voted for him no matter what.”

        Yeah. The dumbest reason to vote for someone is their race or religion. In addition, many stupid self-hating whites voted for him because of the so-called white guilt. Guilt over what exactly? Some vague historical bullshit, and he’s not even American black – he’s American white, and African black. His ancestors weren’t even slaves. And besides, even though slavery was wrong, the descendants of slaves did very well in the US compared to their African brethren. Yet, blacks keep playing the race card over everything.
        .
        “The election of Obama was the largest case of mass insanity the USA has ever suffered. ( his re-election was a bad case of relapse)”

        Bingo! Think about it – it was only 7 years out from 9/11/2001 the American people relapsed and voted for a Muslim, or at least a man with a Muslim upbringing of low or dubious birth, no less. A people who forget their own history are bound to repeat it. Except, they forgot it early – after 7 measly years. Pathetic.

        And, to add more insult to injury, who is the largest group who voted for him? College kids and stupid chicks. The usual suspects.

        Like


      • ” … Anyone who accepts praise or prize void of accomplishment is a weasel. No honor = no alpha…. ”

        You’ve got that right Lily.

        and if anyone should get a prize it is the media, a Pullitzer prize for writing best fiction about Obama.

        Like


      • “If Obama truly respected himself, he would have declined the Nobel Prize on grounds he hasn’t accomplished anything yet as president, and if they want to evaluate him after a few years on the job and still give it to him he’d accept. Of course, that means he’d have to display humbleness, and Obama doesn’t know the concept of humbleness.”

        I’m no Obama supporter but the facts don’t back you up there. Watch his acceptance speech:

        Within the first minute of speaking he declares: “My accomplishments are slight.” The thesis of his speech is basically, “I don’t deserve this based on what I’ve accomplished so far, but you’ve chosen to give it to me anyways so I’m going to accept it as an inspiration to accomplish things in the future.”

        And then watch this, upon first learning of the award:
        “Let me be clear, I do not view it as a recognition of my own accomplishments but rather an affirmation of American leadership…”
        “To be honest i do not feel I deserve to be in the company of so many [people] who’ve [received the award]…

        The facts don’t back up what you just said, mate. I don’t know or care if he was acting. I don’t care if the award is BS. Fact is, that was a display of humility right there, something which you claimed he could not to.

        I have zero allegiance to Obama; my allegiance is only to the facts.

        THEY chose to give him the award. If you want to blame anyone, blame them, rather than him. It would have been an insult for him to turn it down and surely he didn’t want to begin his presidency by insulting a prestigious, world-reknowned institution? Once again, if there’s a fuck-up, it’s on them, not him.

        Like


      • on October 17, 2013 at 1:27 am Carlos Danger

        The media did its job. You’re mistaking it for the job they tell you it is.

        Like


      • on October 17, 2013 at 2:17 am Hilary Clinton

        Top comment Canadian Friend. A small majority of whites vote GOP and MSM YKWs scream waaaycisum. Almost ALL blacks vote Obama and not a sound.

        Like


      • Canadian Friend
        The election of Obama was the largest case of mass insanity the USA has ever suffered.
        ———————————————————————————————

        Alright, but lets not go crazy CF; as big as it was, it was not larger than the fake Apollo 11 moon landing?

        And don’t forget Lance Armstrong; if he was not busted, I fully expected him to get into politics and eventually assume high public office.

        Like


      • If you believe the moon landing was fake, you are not sane enough to have an opinion about what is sane or not.

        Like


      • “If you believe the moon landing was fake, you are not sane enough to have an opinion about what is sane or not.”

        Conspiracy theory abound in these here parts.

        Like


      • Canadian Friend,

        Its quite possible the moon landings were a test to determine what is necessary to get people to accept something that seems difficult or impossible.

        If you told someone in 1969 that a black man with no experience, who never held a real job… would become president of the United States in 2008; what do you think they would have said?

        They would say the same thing you said to me.

        The Apollo moon landings were sold to you the same way Obama was sold to you:

        You saw it on tee-vee

        Like


      • >And the 95% of blacks who voted for him for no other reason than because he was black would have voted for him no matter what.

        You mean that thing that every white person does for white people? Derpa herp herp derp.

        Like


      • Obama got what? about 69 million votes? did you know that about 42 MILLION of that 69 million were WHITE people?

        You are an imbecile

        Like


      • on October 16, 2013 at 2:56 pm North Vinlander

        But he’s black, yo. Muh oppression! 😦

        Like


      • actually Obama is half white.

        but his black half is oppressed by his privileged white half

        Like


      • look at his wife. he’s pure beta.

        there is one (maybe) alpha characteristic but even that is tissue thin other than to incurious people. listen to two or three speeches and he’s got the same lame and slimy argument structure to everything he claims: ‘we all agree with X’ -> ‘but some straw men claim Y’ -> ‘my claim is Z, framed as anti-Y but similar to X’

        i truly can’t believe people like to listen to him.

        Like


      • burke

        look at his wife. he’s pure beta.
        —————————————————————————————

        That may not be his wife?

        The larger, more established black churches such as Obamas have a long history of matching up and coming “cake boys” with the “unattractive or difficult” daughters of the congregation.

        Its very utilitarian for all parties involved.

        Im not saying this is the case with Obama, but it could be?

        A black man with a law degree is the ni66er wet dream; he could have scored a much hotter black wife. The fact he got one darker than himself is interesting.

        Like Bill and Hillary, I suspect theirs is a political marriage:

        LOLZLOLZZZZZ

        Like


      • Mother fucker is Steve Erkel 2.0, and not the Stephan version.

        Like


      • Look for photos in the near future of Apron Obama next to a shirtless Putin brandishing a dead lion and clutching his nutsack.

        Obama’s recent appearance in a kitchen wearing an apron, though wrong on many levels, may have been an orchestrated public relations display intended to appeal to the women in the senate who were somehow pivotal in ending the govt shutdown. And, it demonstrated a total detachment from process telegraphing no intent to negotiate.

        Like


    • on October 16, 2013 at 1:45 pm The Burninator

      He’s beta, despite being The Prez. Having just one trait of many required does not an alpha make. That said, lots of gullible people who do not realize this and just assume alpha. That pastel wearing pansy may sound nice, but his every action, motion, posture and pettiness/snarkiness belies a true beta.

      Like


      • The Burninator

        He’s beta, despite being The Prez.
        ———————————————————————————————–

        You got that backwards. His is president BECAUSE he’s beta. White people will not elect a black alpha. The white women will fuck one, but white people won’t elect one.

        Its part of the tacky arrangement white people have with black people in a white supremacy system. Raise your hands black guys; over the phone or in person, how many of you have taken bass out of your voice when talking to white people?

        *don’t answer that*

        Just think about why you did it?

        Like


      • Normally I roll my eyes and snort derisively when black people make generalizations about how white people think . . . but in this case Thwack’s dead on. Obama’s a “safe” black guy. The perfect SWPL Black Friend — a white beta male who happens to have dark skin.

        Like


      • i think swpl dem types voted for him because of him appearing inoffensive, but i don’t think that means white people in general. i think conservatives would vote like hell for a full on alpha black man. allen west is an example of an outspoked man that’s black and gets support from conservatives. david palmer in 24, given decent views, would sell with that deep voice.

        i don’t think there’s much of a way for a welfare-peddling sad sack to be alpha though, and democrats do not want independent individual black people, so no it wouldn’t happen there.

        Like


      • You tell it, Thwack. I welcome something besides the the monotonous echo chamber here.

        Like


      • Thwack,

        Some of your comments are so bad, they help us -white people- look good.

        Like


      • Thats ya’ll problem, you worried about “lookin good”.

        The truth is black and ugly, thats why nobody wants it except me.

        Like


      • Actually the one who is worried about something too much is you; everything to you is evidence of white supremacy.

        that is obsessive.
        that’s no way to live.

        (I can make it rhyme…hehehe…)

        Like


      • We are not obsessed with “looking good”, we are fighting those who are obsessed with tarnishing our reputation.

        It is you blacks, feminists, gays, other various leftists and your controlled media who are working 24/7 at making white man look bad.

        Creating and building the most advanced civilization in the history of the whole damn planet tends to make us look good.

        Being the only race who provides colored people with affirmative action also tends to make us look good.

        Being the only race who gave tens of Billions of dollars to Africa tends to make us look good ( by the way they finally recognize Bush’s contribution and gave him some kind of prize for having done so much for Africa while he was President)

        Being the only race who welcomes millions of refugees from third world countries and provide them with generous wellfare, free healthcare and many more free stuff also tends to make us look good.

        Being the race with one of the lowest crime rate also tends to make us look good.

        Shall I go on?

        Like


      • Thwack tells it like it is.
        But hey, Democrats wouldn’t elect an alpha, period.
        Specimen A: Al Gore;Specimen B: Joe Biden.
        I rest my case.

        Like


      • Hrmm… I am as qualified as any white boy to talk about black interaction across the entire spectrum from high functioning Allen West types down to the most simian ‘eek ook’ murderous thug. So with that little disclaimer out of the way I don’t know about changing tone as much as changing language.

        I’ve seen plenty of brothas whiten up a bit with language / dialect and then get mad niggerish again when the crackas have left the conversation. But I’m 100% in agreement with the spirit of your comment as I’ve witnessed this countless times.

        Like


      • Funny lil incident: A black lady bus driver,who was flirtin a bit wiff me,asked me “Where do you stay?” and then quickly changed it to”Where do you LIVE?” I wanted to answer ,”Hey momma,my momma din raise no fool! Like I dont know enuf Ebonics to know blacks say”stay” as opposed to live? ” (BTW,get the Barbara Billingsley reference there?Good!)THis black girl who-again-liked me,I once saw her laughing very black,you know,laughing loudly and getting her body into it and sort of bending over,and she suddenly saw me approach and she starightened up and got a bit “white”. It weirded me out a bit.

        Like


    • on October 16, 2013 at 1:48 pm North Vinlander

      Obama seems like a fruit, deep voice or not. http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/obama-judo-2.jpg

      Like


    • yeah, I have a deep voiced large friend who thinks he’s alpha as hell. in reality he only gets with fat broads with kids.

      Like


    • @CH I don’t support Obama’s social views, but I’ve noticed that you seem to have a voice quivering, almost female-like disdain for the man

      [CH: hi sidewinder. still projecting?]

      which betrays the rational male in you and leads you make less than objective observations about him.

      [just answer the question, concern troll.]

      Unfortunately, it comes off as a slight jealousy.

      [dat right, dem white boyz jelly of muhfuggin white house gig.]

      Obama has a bit of a swagger when he walks, good posture and a strong smirk.

      [remember that pic of him riding a bike like a dainty schoolgirl? always good for a laugh.]

      That pic you posted in a previous post of him with Putin to demonstrate his betaness was a microsecond in time.

      [it doesn’t take long for a betaboy tell to fully express.]

      I’d like to see the video on that…though I’m not a fan of his social views, let’s not let it cloud our judgments about him as a male.

      [you write like a faggot.]

      Like


      • “[you write like a faggot.]”

        God, I’d hate to get on your bad side.

        …Oh wait. Damn it!

        Like


      • on October 16, 2013 at 6:23 pm Modern Primitive

        Are you turned on?

        Like


      • Thankfully you get a pass because CH is still holding out for some naked selfies to his email.

        Like


      • He may “Write like a faggot” , but Barry doesn’t write about you at alll poor Heartisty de la Grandioski….

        YOu think much more of him than he does of you.

        Like


      • Like all leftoids, Sub Bator equates Obama’s fame/power with virtue. Becoming president is not alpha, least not nowadays. What it shows about the man is his ready enthusiasm to fellate the occupants of the Cathedral.

        Like


      • Obama,like all black males–or most anyway–benefits fron black blood as blacks are alpha by nature. They have thicker bones than us,get muscled more easily,and are naturally dominant,selfish and mean. Barry is a fag,but by no doing of his own,he is blessed with a deep voice, fairly masculine features,and prob a big shlong. Blacks have bigger shlongs than whites –CH excepted of course!!

        Like


    • [CH: His beta body language belies his alpha voice.
      ————————————————————————————-

      Obamas voice is neither alpha nor low. The quality the Fex is describing is timbre. Its not pitch or tone; it is often described as “color” or texture. Its the quality that allows a person to tell the difference between a sax and a trumpet when they play the same note, at the same pitch at the same loudness…

      Obama has an almost perfect “industry voice”. This is the one perfected in focus groups and studies sponsored by advertising agencies as they perfected mass communication theory.

      In the United States, the best all around voice to sell something must be masculine enough to attract females, but not so deep it intimidates other males; with a slight midwest lilt thrown in for honesty.

      This is Obama.

      Patrick Stewart (capt Picard) has a similar capability.

      There is an industry standard timbre for females that incorporates a similar set of metrics but I think it is more complex?

      All I remember is that female newsreaders cannot have too high a pitched voice because it sounds child like which is not good for credibility in the news room.

      If I had to guess I would say the industry standard is something like Connie Chung, Leslie Stahl…Gwen Eifle

      I have no idea how Barbara Walters ever got hired for anything with her voice?

      Like


      • on October 17, 2013 at 1:34 am Carlos Danger

        Ethnic networking?

        Like


      • She got grandfathered in.

        Like


      • “I have no idea how Barbara Walters ever got hired for anything with her voice?”

        Neither does the ADL.

        Like


      • “All I remember is that female newsreaders cannot have too high a pitched voice because it sounds child like which is not good for credibility in the news room.”

        =====================================

        I can’t stand shrill women.

        Neither could King Lear:

        “Her voice was ever soft, gentle and low
        An excellent thing in woman.”

        (speaking of his dead daughter, Cordelia)

        Shakespeare nailing it as usual, circa 1605.

        — jez

        Like


      • Was Connie Chungs voice box affected at all by her lovinglye swallowing the 10 incher Maury would shove down her throat on a daily basis??

        Like


    • ” . . .the dude’s speaking voice is perfection.”





      Obama doesn’t even rate.

      Like


      • An A+ is a perfect grade. Obama is perfect. But a work of art is valued off the scale. A mere 100 points does not suffice to describe it. James Earl Jones has a voice that is a work of art.

        He’s not even good looking, but I am really really attracted to him.

        Like


      • My God! They need to take you out to a forest preserve and let you go…

        Like


    • on October 16, 2013 at 8:52 pm alexandrahamilton87

      Really? His voice screams “hesitant loser” to me. All those uhhs…

      Like


      • and all those : ” let me be clear”…he says that a thousand times a day

        Like


      • and all those : ” let me be clear”
        ———————————————————————————————-

        Dude, calm down, he’s a friggin lawyer; they are taught to speak that way because thats what works in court.

        The other one lawyers use is the word “indeed”. Its an article of agreement designed to disarm you by making you think the user is accepting a point or position you have taken.

        But its true purpose is to “tee you up” for the massive smack they are about to lay upon you.

        Every time my niece (bless her heart) tries to use that lawyer talk on me I gotta spank her as a reminder that “game recognize game”

        Like


      • ” … designed to disarm you by making you think the user is accepting a point or position you have taken…”

        Then you agree that he is a manipulative dishonest son of a bitch.

        Like


      • INDEED, Obama may be a snake oil salesman, but if he was you, not only would he but stupid, but he would be ugly too.

        See what I did there?

        Like


      • “Let me be clear…” is your cue that he is fiddin’ to obfuscate.

        Like


      • on October 17, 2013 at 8:10 am alexandrahamilton87

        Apparently, forcefulness is also like being a lady: if you have to tell people you are…

        Like


    • Of course u an ur dad would have deep voices. Youre indians. All that body hair is just a sign of your manly testosterone. Im guess ur attracted to hyper masculine men

      Like


  5. Fake it till you make it is the prerogative of all PUAs ain’t it?

    Like


    • i not all of them, but for a lot it’s necessary in order to get any grasp of what happens when you adopt those behaviors. it’s just not innate if you grow up with a single mom for example. so yeah, at first it’s fake.

      Like


  6. men who may not be leaders of other men, but who are leaders of their own emotions and experts at speaking the female language of love

    This touches on a theme in the dogma of this blog that I’ve always mildly disagreed with. If chicks dig jerks, assholes, killers, dark triad, etc etc etc, whether or not they are leaders of men (usually they’re not, because people can’t stand them and don’t look up to them), how does that square with the seduction wisdom of centuries that the best Casanovas (including Casanova himself) have the ability to think like women, empathize, flip the script by using female tricks, etc etc. Numerous blog posts here have outlined this phenomenon as well.

    Those trait clusters would seem to be mostly opposed to each other. An empathetic sociopath is a contradition in terms. (Of course the retort is that the dark-triad seducer masterfully feigns feminine empathy to cynically bag his quarry. But still- rare and unlikely combination.)

    My experience is that the latter have much better long term success- jerks and assholes can generate attraction and tingles, and short-term flings or ONSes, because of the elemental masculine behaviors showcased above, but lots of women are also repelled by jerk behavior. Whereas the seducer with a bit of softness and empathy to leaven an otherwise dominant personality will do much better. Again CH would agree (as far as I can tell), so maybe that’s something to bake into the “chicks dig jerks” dogma. the jerkiest behaviors (usually, not always) get the poorest quality women, with poor impulse control.

    Like


    • “Of course the retort is that the dark-triad seducer masterfully feigns feminine empathy to cynically bag his quarry. But still- rare and unlikely combination”

      A person who lacks empathy and is a charmer is pretty much the definition of a sociopath. A person who lacks empathy and never learned to fake it is autistic.

      Like


    • “If chicks dig jerks, assholes, killers, dark triad… how does that square with the seduction wisdom of centuries that the best Casanovas have the ability to think like women, empathize, flip the script by using female tricks, etc etc.”

      i think you’re mixing up the fact that yeah, maybe you can’t stand them, or men can’t stand them in general. has no bearing on women. women do love even what men think is 100% douche material. and empathy is really easily faked by anyone, but done better by sociopaths. mirroring, for example, is simple to do.

      [CH: More pertinently, empathizing with women necessarily means being more sociopathic.]

      Like


      • More pertinently, empathizing with women necessarily means being more sociopathic

        Disagree- it can mean that, as in the charming sociopath, but it can also mean just understanding the way women think and feel, being able to connect. This need not mean sliding into beta-dom (though it can, and often does) or sacrificing a sexual.dominant frame (sliding into LJBF). it’s a hard tone to strike, a narrow needle to thread, but the point I was making was that being dominant with flashes of vulnerablity generally leads to more success with women than being a straight-up asshole. This blog has stressed the latter quite a bit, while acknowledging the former a number of times along the way.

        Like


      • “it’s a hard tone to strike, a narrow needle to thread, but the point I was making was that being dominant with flashes of vulnerablity generally leads to more success with women than being a straight-up asshole.”

        Definitely. I’ve made this point before, but many here don’t agree. For every ten times you act aloof or like a jerk, you really need to give her a little vulnerability/reassurance. YMMV on the exact ratio, but you have to give her SOMETHING or, if she’s attractive and reasonably sane, she’ll leave you for a guy who occasionally makes her feel cared for. Who wants to be in a relationship that hurts all the time? Even I am not that much of a masochist.

        But that’s more relationship advice, not PUA advice. Not much empathy required when you’re picking up girls in clubs.

        Like


      • on October 17, 2013 at 4:40 am Eliezer Ben-Yehuda

        relationships are for girls.

        for us, a stand might be good enough to keep in inventory (rather than throw it away after one night)…. but it’s still just an inventory item. To be disposed of when the carrying costs outweigh the marginal utility.

        Like


      • [CH: More pertinently, empathizing with women necessarily means being more sociopathic.]

        I’m trying to understand this. Sociopaths don’t feel empathy; they fake it.

        [CH: you’re thinking of psychopaths.]

        Are you saying it’s impossible for men to actually empathize with women?

        [no, i’m saying that one must be sociopathic to empathize with a sociopath. the cruel judgment that women mercilessly mete out to filter the few alphas from the masses of betas, and the psychological tricks they employ to aid them in this effort, are a simulacrum of sociopathic behavior.]

        Like


      • the cruel judgment that women mercilessly mete out to filter the few alphas from the masses of betas, and the psychological tricks they employ to aid them in this effort, are a simulacrum of sociopathic behavior

        Yeesh. it’s really not that complicated.

        Like


      • Sociopath has no conscience, Psychopath does not experience emotions. The case studies in the The Mask of Sanity are a good starting point.

        Like


      • Psychopath engages and disengages emotions at will.

        a real life superhero

        Like


      • Arguing over definitions makes for great conversation. Keep up the good work.

        Like


      • What are we talking about?

        Like


      • Definitions are boring, said Popper. We’re negotiating concepts and what verbal handles we may use to swing them around.

        Like


      • Yeah, I always figured that women are sociopaths.

        Like


      • At least two thirds of the women I have dated meet the criteria for “sociopath”.

        Underneath a very charming exterior ( not only in looks but in behavior, seducing everyone with irresistible but faked niceness ) was a very manipulative, lying, cheating, remorseless, cold hearted, cruel beast in at least two thirds of them.

        Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde is pretty much what they are.

        I am not kidding or saying this because I am “butthurt”.

        This is an honest comment on what I have observed in 40 years of dating ( yeah I’m that old )

        Like


      • Agreement, and CH’s comment above is quite accurate. In my first year of college I had my emotional guts eviscerated by one ‘girlfriend’ who was all that you described above. From that point forward I saw the world with a uniquely different set of eyes and have never looked back.

        The unfortunate side effect is that once you start down this road you cannot easily “turn it off”. So this means I’ve burned down some ‘good ones’, quite badly, in some cases along the way too which I freely acknowledge. I have some regret about it now but not enough that I’m up nights over it. The overall net effect / gain was a landslide of positive for the bit of negative.

        Like


      • on October 17, 2013 at 7:00 pm hatefulheretic

        BPD is little more than “being a woman” turned up to 11. No wonder that women exhibit it far more often than men.

        Like


    • on October 17, 2013 at 1:40 am Carlos Danger

      Cassanova had a lot of women- chick crack right there and its self reinforcing. He understood women and that also means not being available for them but rather giving them incentive to chase you. Cassanova was also handy with a sword, no doubt from dealing with angry husbands.sending out men to kill him.

      Like


  7. This is so gold.

    Also, unrelated, curious what the chateau has to say about this article:
    http://www.aeonmagazine.com/living-together/why-young-women-in-rural-china-become-the-mistresses-of-wealthy-older-men/

    Like


  8. Being a shorter dude myself I’ve noticed that larger alphas will show you respect if when they try to muscle you or punk you, you acknowledge and calmly challenge it instead of hiding or running from it. Dudes are like, “Short dude’s got balls. I can respect that.” Besides they have nothing to win by trying to escalate with the smaller guy.

    If smaller guys want to earn some serious respect, learn how to brawl and beat down a bigger alpha that disrespected you and totally deserved it. Do that enough times, and they can see it in your eyes, and so can you.

    Like


    • It’s my experience that alphas do primarily two things when in the immediate presence of one another – 1) respect the other to the point they actually bro it out and have many laughs, 2) physically fight for dominance (especially if there’s a female in the group or their personalities greatly contrast).

      Like


      • I should note that the “respect” is earned and built, not given. An alpha male quickly knows when he’s in the presence of another alpha.

        Like


      • on October 16, 2013 at 1:43 pm The Burninator

        Correct, though number 1 may take more than one gathering to establish. Eventually though, if you get along, you basically form the royalty and nobility of your realm fairly quickly, and jokes ensure shortly after.

        Like


      • on October 16, 2013 at 1:46 pm The Burninator

        ensure = ensue

        Like


    • on October 16, 2013 at 1:41 pm The Burninator

      Well, “brawl and beat down” may be a bit much, and you’ll get your ass handed to you more times than not if you’re around one of us monster ape natural alphas, especially the combat vet types who don’t take kindly young’uns trying to prove that they’re “all that”. However…you’re correct that standing your ground, not flinching, not being a coward, does get you marks of respect. If not immediately then shortly thereafter. The challenge at that point is to not blow it by getting all clownish and supplicating by being allowed into their company, as those are instant demerits until you are more familiar.

      The gunfighter scenario is one bigger alphas live with nearly daily. If you’re the acknowledged king of the hill there are no shortages (no pun) of guys always approaching and trying to challenge you. Not necessarily fist fights, but always trying to one up you to prove to the assembled crowd, whose opinion they value so much, that they “took it to you”. You learn to see the posers pretty quickly and either ignore them or shoot them down with practiced ease. As to violence, in my crowd you don’t bring it up unless you can back it up, and really, nobody wants that to happen. It’s bad juju and the law is usually compelled to step in and act.

      Like


      • Flinches can be a bad tell, though. I’ve got a MONSTER flinch from being beaten as a kid that no amount of sitting in a chair and letting folks wail on me with gloves would get rid of — it’s just too far back in muscle memory.
        If we throw down, though… yeah, sure, “you” (whoever that is) will probably beat me. I’m old and fat and have lots of injuries. But I’ll make you feel it. I’m not alpha but I won’t let anybody walk on me, either.

        Deference you get for free, respect you earn. There’s a big difference between that and somebody who’s always getting their back up because they can’t stand the thought that yes, no matter who you are or how good you are, there’s some sixty-year-old fat jewish dude with bad teeth you wouldn’t look at twice who can break you like a pretzel without stopping to think about it, or who just gotta always show their tiny teeth at the big monkey because the sight of all his silver hair makes their little balls twitch with anger and resentment.

        Like


      • (not that I disagree with the main point – one of the charms of being high beta or microalpha or whatever you call it is I get to watch the little monkeys always harassing some OTHER guy, and guys like me never have to put up with it — that shit gets OLD, even to watch).

        Like


      • Correct.

        “Heavy is the head that wears the crown” and all that jazz.

        Aside from agree and amplify, my favorite responses are:

        – a low, throaty grumble (kinda like “hmm” but keep your mouth closed) that includes a deadpan expression (with dominant eye contact) until the other person looks away, bares their teeth like a submission primate or supplicates with “I’m just kidding” or something *note: this response sends my g/f and most women into tingle seizures*

        – no response/ignore *note: literally, just keep watching TV, eating, reading or whatever and act like their words/action literally never happened*

        Both show you’re completely unamused.

        Swat them away like Godzilla does helicopters then continue destroying metro Tokyo.

        Liked by 1 person


      • on October 16, 2013 at 2:19 pm The Burninator

        Silence works great, or laughing at them in an easy, relaxed manner then turning to talk to somebody else as if they never existed.

        Violence generally doesn’t occur where I hang out, it’s far too risky. If somebody wishes to press it, I point out the venue and various features of it that make them see the light (“See those guys standing over there, and there, and there, who are not drinking, who are standing silently with sun glasses on and who are surveying the entire bar, and whose leather vests are open and quickly accessible…yeah….”). If they wish to confront me solo, that means I’m outside of my kingdom, which means that I’m armed (I open carry a Ruger Blackhawk six shooter chambered in .45 Long Colt, loaded with Critical Defense rounds). That’s a bit of a persuader in and of itself, people tend to forget bothering you if they were so inclined to begin with. Generally though, violence is rare these days except for a bit of chest pushing high school stuff some guys pull to try and start shit to look good for “one upping the silverback”.

        The low voice rumble, absolutely, though I again prefer the soft, easy laugh or clearly dangerous soft, low, slow voice speaking very clearly and distinctly. Works wonders on bad attitudes.

        Like


      • LOL. Where do you hang out to experience such mischief?

        I know you said biker barns, but still how do these fights ever start to begin with? From a look? Or, from something someone said? Or is it over a chick 2 or 3 opposing guys fancy?

        Like


      • “how do these fights ever start to begin with?”

        http://chirontraining.blogspot.ca/2013/03/cofv8-monkey-dance.html

        http://ymaa.com/articles/violence-dynamics

        A lot of big scary looking biker dudes are the nicest guys in the world who will have the fuck out of your back in a sticky situ, as long as you respect them and they respect you back (often the act OF respecting them MAKES them respect you back) and you bring value and good emotions to the table, viewing them as a friend/ally rather than an enemy/challenge.

        And, like the Nat Geo vid above shows, there are always alpha dynamics in every group of men. So even in that biker social circle there are guys who are more alpha than other guys. When you go out a lot, you learn to quickly sniff out and assess who’s who and you can tell who you can fuck with and who you should befriend and what social power befriending the different guys will give you.

        Like


      • on October 17, 2013 at 1:47 am Carlos Danger

        Check out Bocephus and there you will find your answer.

        Like


      • Are you funny? Do you joke around?

        Like


      • 2 Things —

        1) The quality of women in the sort of places you are describing has generally, in my experience, been very low. Maybe you know a secret spot? So for that reason you get into the whole cost/benefit analysis and it always comes up more effort than it’s worth.

        2) re: firearm. In a bar you are fucking insane if you carry even in a nice CC friendly state. Virtually nothing good can come out of this scenario. And I’m a ‘gun nut’ (at least from a blue state POV) but this is just bad mojo. Alcohol and firearms haven’t mixed for obvious reasons since the days of the Old West. Hell man, I have friends in an “ABC” agency I shall not name here FED COPS and even they with police powers in 50 states generally don’t carry in bars lots of the time for this same reason unless they are going to be stone cold sober / DD that night. And the unwritten but oft spoken memo is “if you are drinking, leave your piece at home”. I’m pretty sure this has been circulating said agency for a long time and with good reason.

        Like


      • haha…..…you’re not as reckless as you come off, eh?
        Who would have thought!

        Like


      • Lily I never, ever, said a shot a bitch or made her give head to a firearm. There is a WORLD of difference between sadist sex and straight up low IQ pathology. Firearm in a bar while drinking is the 2nd sort. Maybe in red state bars way the fuck off the beaten path you have all these pistol packin papas. But read what I said above. If you are out getting fucked up even Federal Agents are discouraged from escalating drunkeness into stupidity.

        Like


      • on October 18, 2013 at 6:05 am The Burninator

        Jay, do you really think that anybody cares about the law if they carry in a bar illegally? Besides, if they are not drinking and the bar is not posted, and they have a CHL (concealed handgun license) they can in fact carry in bars, at least here in Ohio (and many other states actually). You may want to notice that I’ve already stated “not drinking” earlier in the thread. I’ve carried in bars on occasion (while not drinking). Attention to details.

        There are plenty of low quality chicks, no doubt, but lots of high quality “shoppers” as I’ve pointed out on other threads. This is a white collar town, by and large, so the corporate chicks like to hit the nearby biker places to shop for their alpha fix.

        @YaReally – yeah, they are good people by and large. Just don’t fuck with them, as you’ve noted, they’re rather bound to stick together with each other.

        Like


      • Agreed. And the bigger alphas I’m referring to are usually the dipshite versions who shouldn’t be punkin smaller dudes and concentrating on getting ass anyway. True alphas don’t need to prove anything, especially to a smaller dude just minding his own business. And, yeah, actually being able to rumble is a prerequisite to challenging anybody, especially a bigger alpha where the consequences of not winning are more extreme due to their size.

        Like


      • on October 16, 2013 at 2:21 pm The Burninator

        Exactly. An established alpha in his kingdom usually is not the guy running around taking offense, blowing up in anger at everybody, or giving folks trouble. You don’t cross him, but you generally don’t have to worry otherwise as long as you aren’t acting like an asshole.

        Like


      • And it’s a trip when a bigger alpha dude gains respect for a smaller dude and takes him under his wing. All of a sudden, little dude is “my boy” and nobody should fuck what him. Love when that happens.

        Like


      • This is actually where short beta looking guys have an advantage.

        If Burninator walks into a biker bar and his buddies all shake his hand and greet him like he’s cool shit, girls see that but expect that so it’s attractive but normal.

        If some effeminate little dork like the guy in the attacking monkey scene in that video walks into a biker bar and the top group of bikers all shake his hand and greet him like he’s cool shit (as if he was just Burninator who dropped in after a job interview where he had to dress gay lol), girls see that and not only don’t expect it but expect and have SEEN the complete opposite (guys like that getting tooled and beat up and not accepted by the group), their attraction and curiosity blow through the roof because to overcome his gay looks with that group the dude must be alpha as fuuuuck.

        So that guy will end up getting more curiosity than Burninator…which doesn’t necessarily translate to anything. It means girls will be more likely to shit-test him and challenge him to see what his deal is, probably make fun of his clothes and tell him he doesn’t look like he belongs there etc.

        But if that guy also has game and knows that shit-tests are a signal of attraction and how to pass them to build more attraction and escalate/isolate/lead/etc? Game over, man. Game over.

        (this is from experience, not theory lol)

        Like


      • Also the guy I describe has to then be careful because odds are the girl hitting on him will be a girl who’s familiar with that group and there are beta orbiter white knight types in every group, so he has to asses quickly “is flirting with this girl going to cause problems? Is this one of the top alpha’s girls? Do they approve of this? Is there a weasely little beta guy in the back staring daggers at me because he’s been orbiting her for months and he’s going to jump me in an alley later? Or talk smack about me to the group and try to get me ousted? Is this girl and this lay really worth that? Or is everyone laughing and not giving a fuck and I’m free to go stick it in her and tell them the story over beers next time I see them?”

        Often it’s not worth the trouble to mess with those girls. But that doesn’t mean the attraction and groundwork for a successful lay isn’t there.

        Like


      • on October 17, 2013 at 1:49 am Carlos Danger

        I’m a rebel, Dottie.

        Like


      • This is in response to YaReally but I didn’t get a reply for his comment so I put it here, but what he said is 100% spot on accurate. Let my man Dave Chappelle tell the same story but with a racial angle.

        And what Dave said above is 100% true in my experience as well.

        Like


  9. Either National Geographic just suddenly got a LOT less politically correct, or they didn’t realize the implications of their own research. I’d be willing to bet it’s the latter, but still, it’s hard to get more mainstream than NG. The truth is spreading…

    Like


  10. “Ever notice how most primatologists in the field are women? It’s almost as if… chicks dig dangerous apes!”

    Don’t tell me Jane Goodall is getting it on with her gorillas!

    Like


  11. Once I learned the body language, had the attitude, and worked harder in the gym…I started to have a stronger body odor.

    Like


  12. The alpha-among-men vs alpha-among-women is an important distinction. There’s a lot of overlap between the two but they’re not the exact same thing.

    I’d also say voice is more important than size, though I imagine most very large men also have large voices.

    Like


    • on October 16, 2013 at 2:58 pm North Vinlander

      What about Mike Tyson?

      Liked by 1 person


    • 1) alpha with women is separate from alpha in every other part of your life. You can apply the same mentalities etc and they translate, but being an alpha CEO who rock climbs Mt Everest for fun after being a super alpha leader of all his boys, does NOT even remotely guarantee that he will be an alpha when a hot girl is staring him down. I’ve seen it SO many times.

      And at the same time you can be a total loner or beta with other men or unsuccessful in life etc, but understand women and be an alpha with them, and get laid like crazy. The two areas use the same skils but most of the time guys are socially conditioned to treat women different/special and they actively shut off or tone down the alpha traits that would’ve gotten them laid.

      2) vocal projection and breaking rapport tonality is more important than deepness/loudness. Tyler does a great demo in one of his early audio clips where he projects his voice saying “do you guys think this would cut through the noise in a club”. His voice is nasally and high-pitch as fuck, BUT he can project it with a dominant authoritative tone. Similar to the skinny guy in the “get out of my box” experiment where he’s not a big tough guy but he changes his voice tone from “get out of my box?” to “GET OUT OF MY BOX.” and people react.

      So if you have a lame voice don’t worry. Watch some vids and shit on how singers project their voice from their diaphragm and learn to do that. It’s not SHOUTING, it’s projecting, there’s a difference. I can cut through extremely loud enviros or project over long distances across a room etc. but I had to consciously work on that.

      And breaking rapport means making your sentences all trail down. At the end. Like you’re using periods. Even when you ask a question. Do you know what I mean. It’s that downward tone. Where are you from. What’s your name. What are you doing here. It’s the same tonality a cop uses, like he’s accusing you or ordering you.

      British people are natural at this, for whatever reason the speaking style of Brits is built around breaking rapport. It’s always “Wot’s all this then.” in a falling tone rather than “Wot’s all this then??” in a rising tone. Americans are terrible for the rising tone, like a gay guy seeking? Approval? Ending every sentence? Like the band girl from American Pie? Know what I mean?

      Breaking rapport tonality (Old Spice guy) is more important than vocal projection. And you can start doing breaking rapport tonality literally as soon as you finish reading this sentence. Its an instant tweak you can make that will make a big difference when you interact with women. Learn to do it naturally by consciously making an effort to remember to do it…fake it till you make it.

      Liked by 1 person


      • Great points. A lot of what CH advocates is Alpha 101 stuff, but when you actually start moving and shaking in the real world, new layers of subtle social dynamics are unlocked that transcend all of this “speak low and deep and stand tall and proud” frosh.

        Myself, I’m rather unsuccessful career-wise and have a very limited social life. A couple male friends that I barely see and can hardly stand most of the time. I also have a small harem of young chicks that adore me.

        Its all in the attitude. I don’t project an aura of loneliness. I roll with my loner persona and make it work for me. Use your advantages as much as you can. I’m shortish (5’9) and have thin hair, but I’m also handsome and have a solid athletic build. My voice isn’t particularly deep but I know how to speak circles around people.

        And I can’t stress enough YaReally’s point about speaking in a downward tone. He nails it with the comparison to a British cadence: if you can emulate that style of speech without coming off like a tryhard anglophile, you will be rewarded in kind. So many American men talk like straight up faggots (probably why I’m not interested in being friends with them lol).

        Liked by 1 person


      • “He nails it with the comparison to a British cadence: if you can emulate that style of speech without coming off like a tryhard anglophile…”

        Exactly, cryo. And for all the TV shows, I resist becoming a tryhard anglophile. That’s a great term, by the way. If I reuse it, then you get credit.

        Like


      • I laughed. I nodded. I learned. Thanks YaReally. You write thoughtful, helpful comments. Very insightful second-to-last (penultimate) paragraph. I watch a whole hell of a lot of British TV imports and even I didn’t see that.

        Like


  13. wow just wow … Best Post Ever

    lulz

    Like


  14. At 25:50 the narrator says that “low ranking males separate from the group and lure females away from the group,use sneaky tactics in order to reproduce”..

    Makes you think of roosh and a-like .

    Like


  15. on October 16, 2013 at 3:14 pm North Vinlander

    You could probably predict pretty well at 8:25 who’d be the alpha in the group. At first it was the guy with the beard and the guy with the salt and pepper hair who were most dominant, then the big guy with the huge jaw too over.

    So gentlemen, if you can’t look like an ape, at least try to look like a man (I’m half joking, of course).

    Those guys were definitely, on some level, scared of Naftali.

    Like


  16. on October 16, 2013 at 3:23 pm gunslingergregi

    is it alpha to get raped by chicks the loose version
    it is getting kind of funny scary I don’t know
    bitches ain’t taken no for an answer lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Like


  17. on October 16, 2013 at 3:29 pm Greatest Beta

    Number close on a hot girrrrl crazy today 19 yrs old with sexy time tats.

    This one should be fun fun fun

    Like


  18. Excellent post, and I haven’t even gotten to the video yet.

    These behaviors are something I remind myself of daily, and over time they’ve become more natural. I still mess up from time to time and am working on that.

    Like


  19. “Being a big man automatically confers alpha status, but the effect is contextual. A small man with the right attitude, as you will see later in the video, can out-alpha a big man.

    Yep! I always say this because men’s sexiness is found more in their attitudes than in their looks, so that a good-looking beta male is not as attractive as an alpha-behaving male, good looking or not. As long as he isn’t hideous, of course.

    .

    “Conversely, being a little man automatically confers beta status, unless the little man acts in a way to dispel the assumption. So, yeah, you shorter men have an extra hurdle to clear that taller men don’t have. But it is surmountable.”

    This is 100% true. As a female, automatically I take a shorter man less seriously, unless, he’s very masculine in his behavior.

    I know it’s terrible, but that’s the nature of the beast. Women respond much more sexually to taller bigger males. Opposites attract, guys.

    Like


  20. This episode confused me a bit. Around the middle it shows being “attentive” in the first moments of interaction being better than assuming the sale and balling it up.
    Surely the chimps should have the upper hand here? Perhaps their attitudes were too fake? For instance, in the last scene where they compare the two dating frames, the “chimp” guy was doing a lot of “errr” and “uhm” while talking.

    [CH: try-hard troll.]

    Like


    • The game displayed in this is awful. This is why PUA is light-years ahead of what women and the MSM think game is and why they can’t stop us. They aren’t even looking at the right channels to see us.

      The MSM feminine-imperative etc view of a dominant alpha is a complete asshole who “uhhhhh….”s as he talks and used overly-aggressive cheesy “what time do your legs open” bravado pickup lines (and fall apart as soon as the girl shit-tests them). It’s like they have the basic visual vibe, but none of the internals to back it up. They’re going by a cartoon character stereotype version of what a dominant male is.

      Basically they’re trying to paint the Mona Lisa with melted down crayons and when they can’t make it look as good they declare that the Mona Lisa can’t be painted. They are completely out of their league/paygrade for understanding actual pickup.

      The only decent attraction related example is the guys going up on stage looking insecure VS looking confident and even that has a lot of other dynamics involved.

      This is why waiting for a scientific study to tell you game works is a waste of time. Just go out and fucking test it yourself. It will be another 50+ years before the MSM will accept this stuff and with all the chick “social scientists” out there hamster rationalizing away human behavior, a lot of it will never be accepted or verified.

      …but you can verify it yourself this weekend.

      Like


      • Also the 3rd video in this series, about climbing social ladders and group acceptance, is decent. Understanding group dynamics is key to taking over or being accepted and respected in groups whether its at the bar with strangers or at work with co-workers and your boss, etc. I recommend giving it a watch, but again Mystery Method covers it better in terms of seduction/attraction.

        Like


      • That makes sense, thanks.

        Like


  21. “Men with salt and pepper hair shouldn’t bother getting it dyed. The touch of gray is a high status cue. (Note: Does not work the same for women, who will just look old and unsexy with gray hair.)”

    Very true. Gray hair in men exudes power, and is very sexy in the eyes of girls that like male authority. Think, the older college professor you want to pass you, who always looks at you, and stares in your direction with a mischievous twinkle in his eye. You always want to make sure to sit in the front row for his viewing pleasure. A girl could always tell what a man is thinking by the way he stares.

    In contrast, women with gray hair look old. This is so because women only look sexy when they look girlish. Authoritative women invoke the nun with the stick, not the innocence to be dominated by an alpha male looking to devour her.

    Like


  22. No need to NG to tell me alpha male humans exist; I’m living proof of it.

    Regarding the height angle- when you try to hard to come off as “alpha”, it’s usually perceived as neediness. Confidence and frame control are the best weapons in short guy game.

    I’m 5’4″, have the sex appeal of progeria syndrome, and I’m pale is shit. But I STILL pull.

    Attitude uber alles.

    Like


    • dannyfrom504
      Confidence and frame control are the best weapons in short guy game.
      ——————————————————————————————-

      What role does waving a piece around in peoples faces play?

      Like


    • on October 17, 2013 at 9:59 am Greatest Beta

      Good for you man that’s awesome to hear. I have friends there are 5 9 or 5 10 even and they are insecure about their height! All it takes is some girls and GUYS to amog them and soon they crawl up. Even the sight of taller dudes causes many of my friends to become self conscious. This happens to me as well from time to time working hard at it.

      As someone with moderate self confidence ( working on making it powerful) I can attest to the power of said confidence. Time again I’m the SHORTEST guy my LTRs have ever had lolololol. They make comments about how “little” I am and all that and respond “well aren’t I special then!” basically not giving a fuck.

      Interestingly I’ve seen many guys my height with hot girls over and over again perhaps being shorter has FORCED us to adapt a harder and stronger frame. I AMOGd myself the other day when this girl was looking at me but when I saw the bartender who was 6ft 2 I lost my frame of course the girl went home with her girl not getting picked up. The chick smiled at me too but still lost my frame. This will take work but like everything in life no guts no glory

      Like


      • i was dating a woman that was 5’9″. she had a drunk dude push her while we were out and i picked him up and slammed him to the ground (gotta love adrenalin). she has never seen or known i have that side to me. the relationship took a profound change from that point.

        she was more submissive and down to earth.

        alpha is simply a scientific term for the animal kingdom. within the realm of human society; alpha is confidence and outcome independence.

        women are helpless to the combination.

        Like


  23. I wonder how Naftalie would do in a parenting contest.

    Forgive me for broadstroking, but a lot of PUA game is teaching K-selected guys how to act more r-selected. White guys are more naturally beta because 50,000 years ago in Europe you needed to be good at using critical thinking to solve complex problems to stay alive for the winter and nurture offspring through a tough environment. Dick-waving in every interaction was a waste of energy and didn’t win you much female attention either. So you bashed another guy’s head in, how does that help her eat and stay warm?

    Whereas in an African environment, to be a successful guy you had to be loud and mate with the most fertile looking chick before you get killed by a hippo tomorrow.

    The problem is white guys got too good at that civilization thing. They took the incentive totally off the market. With the modern comforts he invented, there is no longer a real survival threat outside of inner city Detroit. Given an umbrella of civilization free of copulatory charge, and suffrage, women are glad to offer the complex problem solvers shut legs, and invite in the Other en masse, then pick the most tingly of the pack,

    How does the beta take back what is his?

    Learn game.
    Close the borders.
    End the welfare state.
    End the divorce industrial complex.

    And again, learn game. Whiteness still has value. One of those white guys with a dab of charm scores more hot thin white girls than Naftalie on his top shelf game.

    Naftalie may know the right way to pose in a picture, but could he get a steady paycheck in a tough, K-selected economy?
    Would he have been able to build a boat to even get to a white country if his ancestors weren’t shipped here in chains?
    Here’s one, which of those guys do you think has fucked the fattest chick?

    Like


    • Well, if you look at sub-Saharan Africa one can see what kind of culture guys like Naftalie are building. When the girl needed help to fix the camera, he didn’t jump in to help cause white boy built that so he should be able to fix it.

      Like


  24. “Take up space, own the space, claim other people’s space. Any vagina within that space will then assume it is subject to your jurisdiction, and behave accordingly.”

    Hilarious fun misogyny. This quote needs to be posted at Jezebel. Oh, the uproar…….lol

    Like


  25. around black guys I become the bigger alpha just by treating them as if every single stereotype you ever heard about black guys is true. And for some reason just making a joke about purple drank or kfc either makes them beta me or get defensive. And ive done this to college athletes too i don’t know why it works

    Like


    • And ive done this to college athletes too i don’t know why it works
      ———————————————————————————————

      It works because the TRULY confident white guy is never the white guy we have to watch out for. Its the insecure ones that are most dangerous.

      For example, guys who can get what I got never hate on me because of it. This is why, outside of work, I never hang around guys who can’t get what I got.

      Its annoying.

      Like


      • Let me tell you man, that door swings both ways and in a much more dangerous fashion. Brothas who have their shit together don’t have to go mad niggerish because it adds nothing to them. It is the insecure ones that have to act out and are generally just very unpredictable and difficult to interact with other than through “gentle encouragement”.

        Like


      • Brothas who have their shit together don’t have to go mad niggerish
        ———————————————————————————————

        I know; theres only 7 of them not counting me.

        Like


  26. “Under extreme duress or threat, white knighting as a strategy to bang women may actually work, (see the last experiment in the video). But you have to be prepared to back up your white knight posturing with real intention.”

    LOL, what does this mean? You have to be prepared to rape her after you rescue her from harm?

    Like


  27. on October 16, 2013 at 6:26 pm FuriousFerret

    I thought the funniest moment was when all the guys were saying ‘I’m a leader. I have what it takes to be an alpha’.

    They are all standing around sizing each other up and the Naftali walks in and they all go in their collective ‘Oh fuck. Good game.”

    Naftali was basically a real life version of Barbados Slim from Futurama.

    Like


    • “I thought the funniest moment was when all the guys were saying ‘I’m a leader. I have what it takes to be an alpha’.”

      lol ya. My other fav was the other black guy who “doesn’t know how NOT to be the leader” who was scurrying around picking up the real alpha’s papers and giving up his chair etc like the lowest bitch on the pole lol

      This is why, as I’ve said before, I never ever ever listen to guys talk. If we’re pre-drinking before the bar and you’re telling me about all the pussy you smash and how you get laid all the time and how you’re going to pull some poon out of that club, cool bro, I’ll help pump your state up and tell you you’re the man.

      But i’m waiting to see what happens when I see a hot girl in front of you at the bar later that I know is attractive to you. I’m watching to see how alpha with women you REALLY are.

      I’m disappointed probably 95+% of the time. Most guys are full of shit. And they BELIEVE that shit, just like each of those Nat Geo guys believed they were alpha leaders…but the field reveals all.

      Like


  28. Being in the company of women only would make sense if you’re dominating them (e.g. the sheepdog being surrounded by sheep). Being a Beta orbiter getting into the presence of women only evokes the view that you’re simply the eunuch guarding the Sultan’s harem.

    Like


    • Not always… I have male friends who go out with me and are definitely not obiters. Sometimes it’s helpful to have a woman in the group. (For social proofing, looking less “predatory”, getting into clubs, etc.)

      Agree that a single guy in a group of women always looks lame, though.

      Like


    • Yes.

      Like


    • Sounds like a typical Grade A libtard. Nothing to see here, really. There are millions like him, all equally worthless.

      Like


  29. Wondering about the distinction between “leader of men” alphas and seducer alphas … would Hitler have been considered alpha?

    Like


  30. And this is why sexual control is inevitable. Its just one more strategy to get access to the most fertile, or reduce others chances. Ugly feminists hate competition as much as beta boys do. So whats the civilizational answer to the dark enlightenment? An ongoing battle that can never be won by reason alone? This blog is based on reason, reason will get eaten, yes? Its not a big enough dog? Dawkins, Pinker etc are all pussies effectively.

    What if pretty lies died? Would we fight to the death in the ultra-gene wars? Where are your answers oh great master!! Is there an alternative to pool side?

    Like


    • What if pretty lies died?

      I can not speak for CH, but just as with poverty or crime, I think we will never rid the world of pretty lies, but we can reduce their number to something tolerable.

      This is what civilization is all about ; making things more tolerable and/or better.

      Only in a perfect world would all pretty lies vanish, but perfection does not exist.

      Unfortunately we are going trough an age of leftism/liberalism where the number of pretty lies has exploded exponentially…and we are beginning to see the damage caused when the ratio of lies to truths is too high.

      Wasn’t it Reagan who said; ” Liberals know so much that isn’t so” ?

      take for example feminism; the lie that domestic violence is caused almost exclusively by men ( it is a lie; women initiate violence at least 50% of the time ) has helped them build a sort of empire. And from their high position they oppress and tyranize men. Men have to finance this with their hard earned money trough taxation.

      It has reached intolerable levels, we are moving away from what defines civilization.

      What feminists are doing is uncivilized in many ways.

      Rejecting facts and logic is uncivilized, un-evolved and using lies to better oppress a group is very uncivilized, it is barbaric.

      The founding fathers had an astoundingly good understanding of what civilization is. Leftism rejects all of that and is taking us into a dark age even darker than medieval times.

      Today’s leftism could not exist without pretty lies.

      It is noble to fight the darkness of pretty lies and noble to fight the people who use pretty lies to oppress good men.

      It is noble to expose the pretty liars and redirect people towards reason and truth.

      Like


    • “And this is why sexual control is inevitable.”

      What do you mean by sexual control? Over the society, or personally over your GF/wife?

      Like


  31. I have only this to say: to BE the man…you gotta BEAT THE MAN.

    Most people are just trying to avoid as much conflict as they possibly can but if you’re acting like the King when you didn’t earn it, you better be ready for that one person who will make you work for it because he just might be the REAL DEAL. He just might be a

    STYLIN PROFILIN
    LIMOUSINE RIDIN
    JET FLYIN
    KISS STEALIN
    WHEELIN DEALIN
    SONUVAGUN

    WOOOOOOOoo!

    Like


  32. Heh… Funny that this documentary says that alpha males have high testosterone and low cortisol. You know who else has high T and low C? Psychopaths.

    Like


  33. Interesting watch. The bungee jumping segment on body posture affecting behavior makes me wonder if the very act of holding a smart phone for increasing amounts of time, staring at the screen with chin and head tilted down reinforces bad body language habits

    Or consider the average office jockey slumped over at a screen for hours…

    Like


    • Yep.

      One of the hardest parts of game for me right now is that my current job involves working in a quiet office at a computer all day. So when Friday rolls around, I’ve been silent most of the week, hunched over, haven’t used my voice or interacted with people etc. So I can end up spending half my night just getting out of that beta headspace and I’ll force myself to open up my body language in the shower and if I’m pre-drinking I’ll push myself to talk etc to get out of the bad habits I had all week.

      Compare that to a job like bartending, where every night you have to be social and alpha and outgoing and have solid confident body language etc. when your Friday off rolls around its no big deal because you’ve been embracing your alpha mannerisms all week.

      This is why I don’t give “introverts” a free pass. Most guys who identify themselves as introverts (thus giving them an excuse not to go out and socialize and learn game because that’s “just not me”) are full of shit and hiding behind a socially provided/acceptable label and haven’t actually gone out and purposely attempted to BE extroverted consistently every day/night for an extended period of time. They think “oh I went to a party a few months ago and tried to talk to people but didn’t feel comfortable so I’m an introvert”. Go out and approach 10-20 sets a night for a year…if after you’ve done that, you still hate interacting with people, then you can tell me you’re an introvert.

      Like


      • on October 17, 2013 at 3:46 am Cad and Bounder

        Introverts would be better advised doing daygame.

        Like


      • 100% it takes me sick how people tell their kds they’re this way or that way. You’re just not good at math you just can’t spell you’re just shy its BULLSHIT and its debilitating. Their entire lives are ruined before they start.

        Like


      • Also, you can hate interacting with most people and still be extroverted and socially savvy. Just adopt a more confrontational tone and use a caustic, barbed conversational style that is more congruent with your xenophobic persona. It will garner you enemies as much as it will friends, but at least you won’t be an omega loser that nobody respects.

        Like


      • On the money.
        Now, I *am* an introvert. I don’t give a shit about connecting to people unless they’ve actually got something to say — putting up with pointless blather wears me out.

        But becoming a professor and learning to dominate classes full of ignorant little monkeys, half of whom just KNEW they had to be the big-titted ape of the class (your biggest prof-challenging dominance-play monkeys are almost always opposite-sex), meant “Okay, I’m not an extrovert, but I can learn to fake it.”

        Best thing I ever did, professionally speaking. “Know yourself” is a directive, not an excuse – it means “find out what your comfort zone is, and grow that shit.”

        Like


      • Wish more profs were like you. I remember having to endure lots of torturous dialogue from students who love to hear the sound of their own voice in my college days.

        Like


      • Like the “teambuilding alpha,” I don’t wanna destroy the dude/ette, just get them to stop being driven by their nads so they can learn (remember, as a prof, I got a purpose here)

        One example: Wife got me a t-shirt that said “and yet, despite the look on my face, you’re still talking.” I wore it under my blazer teaching, and when a student would bloviate, I’d just spread the jacket wide and put my hands on my hips until the rest of the class noticed and busted up. Problem monkey solved for the rest of the term.

        Like


    • Almost all modern posture problems caused by technology can be undone with weight training: notably, deadlifts, face pulls, heavy rows.

      Like


  34. I wonder what’s your view on the second episode of the series – for me too much of female imperative especially that the only “experts” in the show are women

    Like


  35. This week I’m hosting a huge event. I also broke up with my gf so I’ve been very conscious about how NOT to act. This post and video breaks down what humans process subconsciously and why a conscious effort and focus on learning inner game can positively impact external game.

    Some things I’ve done this week: 1) surround myself with other girls who are helping me. (Pre-selection)

    2) Posting select super cool photos with me and my guests (DHV/Social proof)

    3) Hosting and taking care of my guests. (Protector)

    4) now working on my non-verbal so this video is timely.

    Like


  36. Coming to the Chateau makes me sad, as it reminds me of how much of a fucking failure I am as a person (30+ year old V here). And this video is another touchy reminder of that.

    And like every other beta/omega out there, I despise Naftalie for being a fucking douchebag and felt bad and related to the guys who went up and picked up his trash like two servants.

    I have depression and social anxiety. I never fit in. Ever. And I hate human beings in general. We’re nothing sociopathic chimps trying to fuck each other over for pussy and I hate men because I’ve been bullied all my life and I hate women because they’ve endorsed this pain and suffering.

    I really want to change, but I don’t see the light and I’m full of hate. Game works, but for stubborn, resentful, retards me I’m not so sure.

    And this is not a troll post, it’s the bitter ramblings of a resentful omega prick.

    Like


    • Everybody’s got to start somewhere dude. Just use behavioral shaping to change you actions the tiniest bit at a time.

      Like if you’re trying to go to the back of the grocery store, choose the aisle with the hottest chick. Then walk past her without even looking at her. At least you shaped your behavior so you got closer to a chick.

      And try some self-statements to challenge those bitter guy beliefs. Beliefs are like shirts, you don’t have to wear them forever.

      And if you’ve got the balls to be confronted get a old, male therapist.

      Like


    • You have a shit-ton of issues to work on before you need game. Go see a therapist or watch/listen to a shitload of Tony Robbins, Eckhart Tolle, and other self-hell stuff about overcoming victim mentalities, depression, resentment, negative thought patterns, etc.

      It could take you a few years of that before you’re ready to tear down poon.

      But what’s the alternative? You’re only 30. I just wrote to a dude who’s only found this shit at 45+. You have 15 years up on that guy if you really want to change your life around.

      You’re not a failure, you’re just a late starter. But you could BE a failure, if you don’t work on overcoming your own mindsets bit by bit, piece by piece, day by day. 5 years from now your life could be radically different. But it won’t get that way without you proactively working on achieving it. You can hate a millionaire for being rich and want to be rich yourself but you never will unless you take steps to make that money.

      The world will not hand you anything and no one cares if you make it or not except you, and guys here, who are on the same journey you can start on anytime you’re ready to change.

      Like


    • Subway Masturbator is right. Do it slowly in stages.

      YaReally writes a lot about this, he was a beginner once too. You need to read his archives. Click on his name and it will take you to his site. He has lots of info on how to come out of your shell. If you keep at it for a few months you’ll start to be more social and feel much better about yourself. Eventually you’ll start dating women too. Whatever you do, don’t let depression eat you alive and drive you crazy.

      Immoralgables has lots of material worth reading too.

      Like


      • For as much respect as I have for yareally, or any guy helping here, his game advice fit a specific Game, very feminine. I am not questioning its effectiveness.

        Our Patrice here will NEVER be able to use that and feel confident. He needs masculine Game, he needs ethics, moral, a strong body. Basically Spartan Game. Because let’s be honest: most of Game is total bullshit. It works, but it’s a giant front bullshit going absolutely nowhere. And if you can see through it, you absolutely CANNOT “fake it till you make it”.

        Patrice, there is always two sides to a coin. You’ve got to be the other side to Naftalie’s coin. Take it’s strength, it’s power, it’s alphaness, and use it for a better purpose. The dude in the video is completely self-centred, it’s completely demoralising to watch: not only is this guy wasting a lot of potential, he is also going to hurt a lot of people around him. What if that Naftalie guy was less focused on getting his own tight pussy and focused on the dudes around him, trying to build a giant badass army of good, strong, solid, reliable guys?

        Instead, we have fucking high-bourgeoisie English girls pretending to know shit about human condition masturbating over an intricate prank. She surely has an in-depth understanding of the field, I’ll give her that. This video teaches us nothing we didn’t know already. What we needed to hear is: what do we do with this knowledge? How do we turn it into something useful?

        Like


      • “You’ve got to be the other side to Naftalie’s coin. Take it’s strength, it’s power, it’s alphaness, and use it for a better purpose.”

        Black men are not alpha, and their gestures I find completely cheap and not classy, but totally uncouth and uncivilized. Furthermore, white men borrowing those gestures really look funny, especially short beta male.
        .

        “What if that Naftalie guy was less focused on getting his own tight pussy and focused on the dudes around him, trying to build a giant badass army of good, strong, solid, reliable guys?”

        I think what you mean here by masculine Game is to act like a leader. This is what separates the true alphas from the wannabes. Furthermore, a man who leads other men, attracts women because they view him as someone they can rely upon.
        .

        “For as much respect as I have for yareally, or any guy helping here, his game advice fit a specific Game, very feminine. I am not questioning its effectiveness.”

        What’s good about YaReally is that he’s a social coach. Before a man can be a leader and be a masculine master to a woman, he first needs to learn about people – meet lots of people and interact with them. I think this might be the second step for Patrice, and what you’re proposing the third step. He needs to come out of his shell before he games women. Then, after a year of being out and about and meeting and befriending lots of people, he can start working on getting females intrigued with him.

        I like the Tony Robbins positivity advice. That might help him get out of his depression, which I think he needs to do asap, before any other training. That should be his first step.

        Apropos, what’s good about YaReally is that he likes to help people. He gives his advice as honestly as possible. You might not agree with him, but at least you know it’s what he honestly thinks. Ya told him right, that he needs to get out of his negativity before he can learn game and be with women.

        Suffice to say, Patrice needs lots of training – the YaReally type and the type you’re speaking about. He better get cracking. All this depression he gets when he come to CH is happening because he hates to face the truth. It’s too painful. The truth will empower him to change his life. It’s a long arduous process, but he better start now, or stay like he is forever.

        Like


      • Yes but with inner game issues, you have to hit the CH archives. Just type in a subject and search.

        Like


    • 1) work smart work hard ..find a way to make fuck you money..as soon as possible.. 2) best place to meet receptive women and learn about yourself ..take an acting class – (clubs are poison) 3) confidence can be earned – stop crying ..start now

      watch the film The Count Of Monte Cristo .. -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6AcYr9b3Vk

      Like


    • on October 17, 2013 at 6:04 am fmr_Elkaholic

      Refigure what you want out of life.

      Your hatred is a sign that there is gas left in the tank.

      The self loathing can provide a perspective on things: once you have had a good look and see a miserable prick, stop looking.

      Like


    • “And I hate human beings in general. We’re nothing sociopathic chimps trying to fuck each other over for pussy and I hate men because I’ve been bullied all my life and I hate women because they’ve endorsed this pain and suffering.”

      So channel your hate into being something other than a bitter faggot.

      Look, I agree with you about humans in some ways. If you really take a step back and look at us, we’re just a big joke. So why not start treating life like a joke? Stop taking yourself and those around you seriously. Once you adopt an aloof attitude and train yourself to navigate the bullshit without submitting to it, life will reward you slowly but surely.

      Pull the dick out of your ass, be a man and start making things happen for you.

      Like


      • So many times being a sociopath would have helped me make more money. Too much compassion and being plugged-in is what kills you faster. This guy has a lot of untapped potential, he just doesn’t know it yet.

        Like


    • It is possible to change. Start with the thing you have the most control over: your body. I was a skinny, unathletic kid who pretty much went straight to being an overweight, unathletic adult. I’m well past forty now and I’m in better shape than I’ve ever been in my life: an hour a day and paying attention to what I eat has taken off twenty pounds in four months. And that includes days when I blew off exercise, ate big restaurant meals, etc.

      When your body is in better shape you can move on to other things, and just knowing you’ve changed yourself will give your confidence a boost.

      Also: make use of that anger. Take up something like boxing or martial arts.

      Like


    • You aren’t as much as a failure as you think. You have to learn to take the optimistic road in defining your identity then work off of those building blocks. Take something you are good at no matter how small and work from that.

      You never fit it? Well shit! Use those qualities to get shit-tested and learn how to frame like a champ. Somebody calls you fat or bald or whatever? Then BAM: Yeah I know, I can hardly keep the chicks off me with a body like this. Then let that linger in the air for a while then change the subject.

      Like


    • Patrice,

      Red pill is bitter pill to swallow indeed.
      All is not lost. Work on inner and outer game.
      Build your Self confidence. Take pride in your accomplishments. Work out get in the best physical shape you can be. Mentally don’t let anything get to you. Think to yourself this way: I am a man on a mission and nothing is going to stop me. Do not make excuses for yourself. Do not fear death. The difference between master and a slave is the fear of death. Alpha’s (the master’s) don’t fear death. You have to be willing to take risks. Taking the risk, and not being afraid of failure is a trait of Alpha. Prepare your self for failure by imagining worst case scenario and then just do it. When going to ask women out be ready for the any kind of rejection, what is the worst that can happen to you? She can say NO. Drop dead looser. No Big deal. Tell your self it is her loss move on to the next one. Yes this is hard, very hard especially after you strike out many times. For most of us guys we will strike out more often than we like to admit. But you have to be strong and move on the next babe in your sight. Read CH and other blogs, books on game, improve your game and soldier on. We are pulling for you.

      Remember this ” Tame the cunt and respect the cock”

      Like


    • I’m full of hate, And I hate human beings, and I hate men, and I hate women .

      This is the only thing that can save you. As our buddies Rage against the Machine once told us “anger is a gift”. And it is actually. If properly challenged it will allow you to move ideological mountains and from the rest of your post, you are facing something along those lines.

      It is an all consuming never ending fuel that can be applied like a fusion reactor of transformation. However… I disagree with bob below that you should go for Apex Predator game because with the level of overall instability that utter bile inducing howling unbridled rage of any sort puts on the mind you are likely to do this in a way that will just make things worse. You can take your thermonuclear angst and then apply the YaReally model to remold yourself into a thing of envy. But it will never happen over night and like most things in life that are worth while and matter, it takes effort.

      Like


  37. “Remember, when shaking hands, try to position your hand so that it lays slightly atop the hand of the person you’re greeting. Most people will acquiesce quietly to this dominance move.”

    Doing this really just comes off bad, makes you look like a real dick.
    Best way to shake is to slap your hand in to theirs – kind of a high-five vibe, but in handshake position and you grasp and shake. Guys can’t “overhand” you when you do this.

    I have a bodybuilder friend who actually does both of these, only guy who pulls it off. He actually raises his hand and slaps it down in to yours, sometimes it hurts.

    Like


    • You mean like this?:

      Like


    • I completely agree with this.

      In a controlled experimental setting maybe the guy trying to get the “upper hand” (literally speaking) may “win” handshakes and outalpha others, but out in real life the men who try to out-dominate you in a handshake are the same men who fade into irrelevancy 20 minutes later into the night.

      Same with the dudes who squeeze your hand too hard. I don’t care about your grip strength, bro, and after I shake that next persons hand, yours will be completely forgotten.

      Dominance truly comes out later on, through your body language and how you hold yourself up.

      I always thought a handshake was meant to establish a “liking” or build trust…..the guys who try to “dominate” others through handshakes come off as trying too hard

      Like


  38. What’s going on here?? How come these guys didn’t instantly explode Vitaly’s face with their thunder-fists like guys who don’t to out told me they would???? How did he upload this video from the hospital, I mean, he must be in traction, everyone knows that if you say or do anything big muscled guys don’t approve of, they’ll instantly punch your face in and try to kill you.

    Like


  39. Looking forward to the screeching about how this destroys jobs and objectifies women.

    http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.dk/2013/10/replaced-by-mannequin.html

    Like


  40. “Alpha males PROJECT their voices. I have yet to meet a successful salesman who didn’t have a booming voice that commanded attention. You may think an obnoxiously loud voice is the Call of the Douchebag but, you know, chicks dig douchebags. Are you gonna bitch about it or are you gonna play to win?”

    I don’t know about chicks liking douches. Probably the classless chick. But sophisticated chicks in metro areas will see such a man as uncouth.

    I think women like the rugged cowboy or Rhett Butler scoundrel types, but not the obnoxious used car salesmen.

    Like


  41. ya .. alot of insightful stuff..many times ..but ..you have a job..what? .. you spend your time being a fucking drone.. and all this time on this blog..wtf ..you have a job..? .. just dont get it .. for a man to be a man ..has to own his life..sooner the better

    Like


  42. Too much of a rigid thing is never good.

    For one example, an ALPHA MAN is ALSO that overly testosteronized tough dude in prison that for primal gratification LITERALLY FUCKS OTHER lesser MAN IN THE ASSHOLE. You score brownie points if you can think: ewwww..

    Like


  43. “it’s my observation that, over the long run, the ingenuity of indirect game will result in more successful pickups.”

    Not if you have a well honed knack for picking out horny women it isn’t. Good target selection is even more critical for direct game.

    Like


  44. Mansophere voices should be careful what concept they unquestionably prop up. Too much of a rigid anything is always negative (evolutionary bad.)

    For one exampple, ALPHA MEN are ALSO the same overly testosterone-ized macho tough guys that for primal reasons in the prison environment FUCK OTHER lesser MEN right IN THEIR ASSHOLES.

    You get brownie points if you think that’s gross.

    Alpha men are also the same steroid-built rednecks and ghetto thugs in gangbang porn that take sloppy-seconds and thirds turns at the same hole without wearing a rubber; who cross-tangle balls while double penetrating; and who “accidentally” spill some “renegade” cum on each other while cross-blasting the face of a coked out whore of du jour.

    So don’t be a rigid alpha especially if you are raised in the U.S. culture because you are far too dumb to understand proper nuances.

    Be water instead.

    Like


    • I don’t recall ever seeing a post here that say you should exclusively run Apex Predator / Caveman game. And in point of fact, usually quite the opposite. The recent flurry of posts about this all seem to be saying the same thing which is if you do take this approach you better be really good at “threading the needle” because if you aren’t you just end up looking like a fucking idiot. So you seem to be railing against something never spoken.

      Like


  45. thwack
    and all those : ” let me be clear”
    ———————————————————————————————-
    Dude, calm down, he’s a friggin lawyer; they are taught to speak that way because thats what works in court.

    Um, no. All you know about lawyers you learned on da TV eh? No law school “teaches” students how to speak, dolt.

    Like


  46. a video that explains how beta males become alphas

    Like


  47. OT: Does anybody have any field experience or advice to share regarding day game in Los Angeles?

    I plan on moving there soon (I have a couple friends and some family that live in the area) and was wondering what I can expect as far as general female attitude and disposition.

    LA is hell on Earth in a lot of ways but goddamn if the bitches aren’t fine.

    Like


    • and was wondering what I can expect as far as general female attitude and disposition.

      Take the bitchiest chick you ever met and that is the average in LA. It is truly an alpha of the highest order than can routinely swoop hotties in LA. My cousin use to live in Hollywood and I remember being in shell shock at parties. The difference between LA and DC is, LA chicks LOOK how they act. DC bitches are dialed up to 8+ only in their hamsterized mind where your degrees and career matter fuck all to anyone but you. There is a reason that the phrase “LA 6” is widely used to describe an average 8-9.

      Like


  48. Off topic but here’s an example of where the left got away with establishing the meme that Ted Cruz was “crazy” because no bloggers on the right have really been organized enough to “freep” things

    The word freep comes from when forum members at http://www.freerepublic.com were numerous enough and organized enough to go to articles on the web and upvote or downvote in large numbers as well as comment, in order to sway the statistics to show how popular or unpopular the article or video was. Freerepublic, by the way, was once the home of the manosphere. Up until 2006 it was the home of anti-feminism. That’s when the blog owner got married to an american woman and she put a stop to that.

    In the video I linked to, this left wing Young Turk is too feverish in his hate for a small government conservative like Ted Cruz to let that go uncommented on especially when just 14 people could change the whole nature of the comment section. Is he deleting comments he doesn’t like? Can he delete downvotes to others comments?

    Maybe it is just that conservatives tend to be less and less anonymous as they surf and, therefore, shy away from commenting where they formerly would have.

    There is an issue that anonymity is disappearing on the interwebs. So many responsible people now have their youtube accounts connected with their full profiles, leaving only young leftists to anonymously promote socialism.

    Like


  49. it is obvious that the so called Negro -i.e. true Homo Sapiens Sapiens is alpha – God is the ultimate alpha and made man -i.e. Homo Sapiens Sapiens – in his own image.(see Genesis)

    The genetic recessive Neanderthal hybrid counterpart is not/less so – kind of like making copies on a copy machine – the original is the real deal – while the subsequent copies are … well…. weaker – i.e. degraded.

    No wonder the genetic recessive Neanderthal hybrids used to round up in groups to murder just one real Homo Sapiens Sapiens – usually accompanied by mutilation of the genitals of the real Homo Sapiens. Sexual fear and Genetic fear. Fear of the Alpha.

    Like


  50. Of course the Human Alpha Male is Real

    Does any other though enter your mind when you look at:

    1. Lebron James
    2. Michael Jordan
    3.Jim Brown
    4. Usain Bolt
    5.Barry Bonds
    6.Jack Johnson
    7. Mike Tyson

    [CH: good sir, you wouldn’t happen to be a race huckster troll, would you?]

    Like


  51. “Some men, like Naftalie, are great alpha males of MEN, but not so great alpha males of WOMEN. This is a not so uncommon disjunct that one finds in some leaders of men who are not very good at being seducers of women. We all know that captain of industry (in whatever flavor) who nonetheless acts like a dullard or an oaf in the company of women. Generally, alpha males of men are also alpha males of women, as the dominance required for the former is also attractive to the latter. But disjuncts do occur, and this opens windows of opportunity for men who may not be leaders of other men, but who are leaders of their own emotions and experts at speaking the female language of love.”

    Interesting, and true. But this separates the true alphas from the wannabes I always point out.

    [CH: a man getting the pussy he wants is not a “wannabe”. he’s a “gotwhathewants”.]

    Men who are leaders of men are usually (although not always) leaders of women. Men who are only leaders of women I find to too caddish, ungallant, and rakish.

    [their hearts will go on.]

    They don’t have that “lean on me” or “hold on to me and I will protect you” demeanor that women love.

    [actually, being a protector of loved ones and being a leader of women are practically synonymous.]

    A Man who leads other men implies that if men can rely on him, surely women could too.

    [sergey brin’s ex-wife wept.]

    There is something sexy about a man commanding or leading other men.

    [the good news for men interested in becoming more alluring is that what women find sexy in men is a lot more contextual than what men find sexy in women.]

    Like


    • “[CH: a man getting the pussy he wants is not a “wannabe”. he’s a “gotwhathewants”.]”

      Well, he is a man who got his pussy. Are all men who get the pussy they want alpha?

      [CH: that’d be the way to bet.]

      In other words, is getting the pussy you want automatically make you an alpha?

      [no, but it’s a leading indicator of alphaness.]

      Doesn’t it also depend on other (external) factors, such as the women he’s hitting on at the moment – how receptive she is to him, where another woman might not be?

      [chaos is self-evident.]

      Like


  52. “Ever notice how most primatologists in the field are women? It’s almost as if… chicks dig dangerous apes!”

    This line is pure gold. Uncontestable.

    Like


  53. Obama is the most alpha president we have had since Clinton (incidentally known as the first black president for his alphaness)

    because Obama is in fact 1/2 real Homo sapiens sapiens – his father being full blooded African from Kenya i.e. the Rift Valley – birth place of the species –

    his other 1/2 is genetic recessive Neanderthal hybrid.

    The result: the ´cool´, ´swag´, i.e. ´alphaness´ he emits is from the African half though diluted by at least 50%.

    This is too be expected though as the one thing genetic recessive neanderthal hybrid Americans fear is the alpha of the full blooded Negro – its a little too strong so to speak – coffee without the sugar and milk

    Like


    • Despite being half white, Obango remains true to the homicidal half of his gene pool. It’s just that his white inhibitions limit him to murder by proxy (drones and bombs), rather than direct assault.

      Like


  54. Nat Geo is wrong, at least as applies to wolves and dogs. There is no such thing as “alpha male” in wolf and dog packs since most wolf social groups are related family members. There is no “dominance” but loyalty and respect for one’s role. The error in making the. Alpha wolf theory is based on experiments involving throwing unrelated males into a single cage; one will of course come out on top when they engage in fear-based combat for survival.
    Unless comprised of unrelated animals, which is rare, there is no dominance fighting in a wolf social group, that would be like trying to kill your dad to lead the family.

    Like


    • There is no such thing as “alpha male” in wolf and dog packs since most wolf social groups are related family members.
      —————————————————————————————————

      What about the groups where all the young males are driven off; and they form their own groups of all young males?

      Like


  55. Always old news on the CH. We’ve all knew this…at least guys in the pickup community. This is so old news that it’s not even funny.

    Now I like the way how this pua tries to pick pocket a girl’s handbag at the park in order to fuck with her and then have a nice chat afterwards. Now that’s Alpha.

    Like


  56. That dude also acted alpha to the big dude only cuz the state will protect him. In a 3rd world nation the big dude would rape him in front of his girl

    Like


    • Actually, he may simply know something the big guy does not. Such as a snubnose .357 in his pocket, or longtime training in a serious contact martial art. Any 140-lb pro MMA fighter would destroy Mr Big in a fight. Helio Gracie, co-founder of Brazilian jiu-jitsu, famously said that knowing jiu-jitsu feels like “carrying a gun in his pocket”.

      Like


  57. I thought the alpha wolf had been given up as a useful concept a while back? It would make more sense in humans or other primates since we are so chaotic compared to the disciplined, tightly knit wolf packs.

    Like


  58. I never read a post regarding why you even bother playing this life game, CH. What’s so great about it anyway? You talk about alpha this and alpha that. Well guess what? Playing this damn game is idiotic and very beta. Any man who’s ever put a bullet in his own head is the real alpha. He realizes this is a futile fight that can’t be won, and so he cuts his losses. That’s the real alpha male. Anyone running around on planet earth trying to win is a pathetic beta loser, no matter how many bitches he pounds.

    Like


  59. I fucking love science.

    Like


  60. that gorilla experiment, Isnt consoling a woman that “everything will be alright” a beta move?

    Like


  61. […] [National Geographic Agrees: The Human Alpha Male Is Real] […]

    Like


  62. the black guy , naftali actually studied PU. Check out the comment section in the youtube vid , where he comments with >shoutout to Tyler and Julien form RSD.shows segment of ape throwing rocks>conlusion: he regained alpha status..
    saw this as an desperate call for attention and insecure way to get noticed.
    The guys picking up the paper , though ,were clearly submissive , weak charactered , beta males.

    Then , on the photo shoot , he poses with his nacked body exposed.
    As a way to outperfom the other dudes.
    Again attention seeking teenager behaviour.
    Yeah back to the playground.

    Next moment. Chick rejected him.
    Well , that pseudoalphastuff didn´t seem to work , huh?

    Also they said that the ex-spesOpsinterrogator/alphaexpert was alpha . No way ,just an old dude creating drama.

    Last moment , the guy comforting the chick. And even risking his life to close door (oblivously fake , no sane man would stand there and watch a gorilla , with 2 doors behind them that could have been kicked open )-white knight , no alpha.

    Basically the attention seeking behaviour that in social enviroments is clearly commanding attention , no doubt , is regarded as alpha in this show.
    False conlcusion.

    We can mentally masturbate over alpha this and tht by overanalyzing social interactions ,but only a primitive enviroment , a state of of nature , like in great crisis or world war , sorts the wheat from the chaff:

    I recently read about a guy in Irak that formed his own a militia group and took over his town , making it one of most safe places. Keeps away both the americans and taliban. Pack leader , protector , stress resistant , REAL dominance , you name it. Real alpha. Unreachable for your average , keyboardjockeing wannabe-alpha-mental masturbator , that in fact is beta trying to imitate.

    Like


  63. […] National Geographic Agrees: The Human Alpha Male Is Real – from heartiste. see also “Manosphere” Community Beliefs: Truths and Nonsense from jayman. […]

    Like


  64. In the video, Naftalie (one of the strongest Alphas) is noted by the secret observer to “have an oversized smile” while greeting the others. I thought CH had mentioned a while back that smiling is a gesture of submission.

    Like


  65. I don’t know about you guys, but I want to step in that guy’s box. I get pissed off just watching that scene. Is everybody a pussy on planet earth? Were Stanly Milgram’s experiments for nothing?

    Then again, that was the UK– fucking nancy boys. Try pulling that shit in some non-urban country environment and he might have gotten a little non-respect to his authoritah…

    Like


  66. […] National Geographic Agrees: The Human Alpha Male Is Real (heartiste.wordpress.com) […]

    Like