The Plain Girl Test

Whenever you’re stuck with a particular girl you’re trying to bed, and wondering what to do next, a good mental test to give yourself is to swap roles so that you are the one being chased by the girl. Except that in this reformulation, the girl is a plain looking girl for whom you have no strong feelings one way or the other. In other words, imagine a plain girl is gaming you exactly the same way you are gaming the new girl you want. The psychology of this scenario closely mimics what is going on in most girls’ heads when you game them. Does this imaginary plain girl’s game actively repulse you or does it spark an attraction for her? If it repulses you, then you’ll know that the game you are running on the actual girl is probably repulsing her as well.

For example (actual email from a male reader seeking advice):

An acquaintance invites me to meet some girls who are in town for a short while.  It turned out to be a chaperoned “date” with his parents, us two guys and three girls.  We are seated strategically, but I’m not next to the girl I want to know.  After stupid conversation my friend and I take two of the girls to a nearby bar.  I suggest we break into a nearby campus and make other comments.  In the car ride to the next place, the girl says “sketch” and says that the guy in front has better conversations.

I know, half of that paragraph was Beta.  Anyhow, the girl I was furthest from was hanging on my every word and gave me her number.  I barely said “hi” to her, but she saw the attention the other girls received.  I have her b-card and number.  How to proceed?  I was thinking “You didn’t get to talk to me, though you were dying to.   Coffee?”  I hear she has a bf, but that does not concern either of us.

The emailer should imagine he is being chased by a plain girl running the same game that he is thinking about running on this chick he likes. So in this thought experiment the plain girl has his business card (nevermind how she got it, it’s irrelevant), and she has just called or texted and said the following to our emailer:

“You didn’t get to talk to me, though you were dying to. Coffee?”

As a man, would you be more or less interested in a plain chick who texted the above to you? Probably less. It sounds like a girl who is trying vainly to conceal her motives, i.e. try-hard. If you were the man being chased by a plain girl running this game, you would say to yourself “No, I’m not really dying to talk to her.”

Well, that’s close to what the real life hot chick is saying to herself.

Now what if the plain girl called or, preferably, texted you this instead:

“I have your business card for some reason. Did we talk last night?”

More intriguing, eh? A little more aloof, too. You’d wonder if this plain chick was hotter than you thought, and you’d be compelled to follow-up with an offer to meet. Well, if our emailer sends this improved version to the real life hot chick, she will think the same way. This text is tighter game.

The plain girl test won’t apply in every hypothetical situation, but it is a handy guide for deciding whether your next move would be ill-advised or helpful toward getting the close.





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  1. So for most guys you recommend aloof Game rather than asshole/dominance Game?

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  2. “I have your business card for some reason. Did we talk last night?”

    this line would work if she thinks that he never checked her out the entire night, but I am not sure if the narrator was that not obvious. IMHO this line would make him seem try hard.

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  3. A similar “empathy” test I’d run in my head was having an imaginary dude wanting to be buddies with me. If he’s cool and friendly enough, and things click on a small-talk level, I’m inclined to shoot the shit with him.

    But if he hovers a lot and is a needy (“I really wanna be your buddy! please like me! I’m very interesting!”) I either start thinking of him as a nuisance or unfairly feel an uncomfortable homo-alert.

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  4. Agree with O-face above. Both lines seem try hard.

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  5. Whenever a plain woman gets herself into my apartment or into a meeting with me, I always analyze how she did it and admire her for it.

    Most of the time, its because I’m nice, which is not a trait any man should expect too many others to have, but its also because she had the guts to ask in a determined manner.

    For instance, “Hey, can I come over to your place and cook dinner for you” is not only all a plain Jane needs to do to get into my apartment, a variant of that is all that I’ve had to do to get a 9+ into my apartment (“Hey, come on over to my cool air-conditioned apartment and I’ll cook dinner for you”).

    So, yes, look at what the plain janes do or say that you respond well to…and copy that.

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  6. part of being cocky funny or an asshole is learning when to turn it down. my general attitude in life is this: my time and attention are valuable. i do not suffer fools lightly, but i will give you the chance to prove that you are not a fool.

    that mindset will help you from overgaming. don’t forget that once you build interest and attraction, you’ve got to build comfort and rapport.

    keep teasing, however, which is different than being an asshole. you can be nice without being the “nice guy.”

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  7. Both “plain girl” and “dude wanting to be buddies” test cover different areas. The “plain girl” test is good for normal boy-girl progress, where sex is the eventual conclusion. But it doesn’t account for the man’s extreme self-protectiveness contra unwanted advances frm a plain girl. If the girl isn’t repulsive, we won’t recoil as badly from sleeping wiht her.

    The “dude/buddy” test mimics the revulsion you’d feel at homo-vibes directed at you, which are similar to the revulsion a girl feels toward a “plain” guy she is not interested in.

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  8. “I have your business card. We didn’t have a chance to talk on [-day]. Here is my address: xxxxxx xxxx xxxxxxx xx.”

    Oh, yea, and:

    “Bring the movies.”

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  9. on August 23, 2010 at 10:58 am Ari Hinkelberger

    I would do straight direct.

    Not mention that we met or the night we got together.

    I would text straight up.

    “Know this decent bar in (Blah). Lets get a drink Thursday after work.”

    if I was going for the aloof side, I’d probably use situational reference from the night before like:

    “Those beers gave me heartburn.”

    or

    “That food on Thursday night was ehhh. How was the weekend?”

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  10. With all due respect to our host, this is the worst game advice I’ve ever seen on this blog. Neither sex can learn much about what attracts the other by introspection, because the behaviours that attract men and women are so different.

    I – and the vast majority of men – are attracted to girls who are genuine, sincere and earnest in their courtship. Girls who try to pull off sarcastic cocky-funny are a pain in the ass. Obviously, if a girl is hot and I want to sleep with her, some annoyingly caustic text messages will not blow her out of the water, but it will make me cut off contact with a borderline girl. Any girl that I’m dating who displays an attitude that is at all reminiscent of David DeAngelo will almost certainly not earn my consideration for any kind of long-term commitment.

    Any man who interacts with girls under this assumption will turn into a submissive beta chump.

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  11. I agree with Zdeno, oddly poor advice and I don’t think the thought experiement holds up to any scrutiny.

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  12. Ari, the business card is the connection. You need to mention it, that you have it (to identify yourself), but not wonder about it (“…for some reason”).

    I would then use her inner hamster to spin on the “We didn’t have a chance to talk on [-day].” It is a simple statement of fact, but she will bounce it around in all 52 declinations.

    Next is an implied command: “Here is my address: xxxxxx xxxx xxxxxxx xx.”

    She should reply with “Today? What time?”

    The “Bring the movies” is a icing on the cake. 😉

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  13. Zdeno, boy, you are forging wayyy too ahead with that long term commitment. Hold yer horses, will ya? You have to get to know the girl first.

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  14. “plain girl to a man=beta male to a woman” is a perfectly good analogy in terms of ability to spark attraction

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  15. “”Now what if the plain girl called or, preferably, texted you this instead:

    “I have your business card for some reason. Did we talk last night?”””

    This would only work if you had good enough game to follow it up with.

    I was drunk and banged a fat chick. She gave great bj’s, but after thinking about it, it was like eating durian fruit…you try it once, it’s oddly intriguing but afterwards you realize why most hotels and airlines don’t want you walking in with one.

    I digress. She now texts me from time to time: “do you wanna meet up for fun?”

    Great text…but then I remember who it was from.

    In some instances you get one shot at game. If you can make it intriguing you can keep up the momentum and even screw up, but if you blow it on the first go around, it’s done.

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  16. Zdeno, fafaf,

    I agree with CR’s advice. I’ve followed the blog for a while now, and I think he has been evolving his game theory away from classic PUA theory to a more alpha-integrated inner game theory.

    I agree with you that cocky funny negs and other classic PUA banter would be weird coming from a plain chick, but good eye contact, good posture/non-verbal, composed back and forth conversation…these inner game principles would apply to female to male attraction just as it does the opposite. It is not inconsistent with wanting a genuine, honest and natural girl. Inner game and non-verbal game are perfectally consistent with natural game. CR should correct me if I’m off base here, but I have always interpreted his advice as learning to integrate PUA techniques into your personality, as a form of self growth. While it may start out as artificial manipulative social techniques, the goal is to integrate the lessons into natural inner game.

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  17. Wala, why don’t you just tell her you don’t want to see her anymore?

    Why is it so hard for guys to do that?

    If you’re not interested, just tell her to fuck off. I’d rather get that than ambiguity.

    Fuck off means I still get to respect you afterwards. Ambiguity means that eventually I’m going to have that Crying Game moment where I realize I shagged a wuss, and want to shoot myself.

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  18. Any man who interacts with girls under this assumption will turn into a submissive beta chump.

    you’re misunderstanding what he is saying. or at least what i take away from this post. this post applies to what you do when you are not in a girl’s presence.

    guys tend to overthink what happens in between meetings. they try to come up with cute and clever ways of getting girls to want to see them again. what a lot of guys forget is that every time you see a girl again, you need to start from step 1: build attraction. too many guys try to take shortcuts and use texts and emails and facebook messages to flirt. this is where thinking about the plain girl will come in handy.

    we can refer to “text game”, but that’s probably a misleading term, cause the point of text game is to be brief, aloof in your response time and to the point when you do respond. proper “game” should be saved for face-to-face interactions.

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  19. If there were any justice, you’d be typing on a typewriter made of solid gold, Roissy.

    Damn, that was a fine post. Like you say, it’s not meant to be taken beyond its logical conclusion, but it’s going to great rule of thumb that stops me doing stupid shit.

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  20. As for “aloof game”. I’ve been practicing this lately and number-closed 4 7’s. in the last few days.

    In each instance I said something that was an outrageous neg and that sparked her to follow up with the interrogation questions: “Where you from, what do you do?”

    Hot Taiwanese girl, tanned, 8.5, late 20’s thin, gorgeous in my Latin dance night. All the local guys were drooling over themselves begging her to dance.

    I came over, cave-manned her by holding out my hand and turning my back. She hestitated, then got up when I turned around with the look of “what’s taking you so long?”

    She was a beginner. After the first dance. I opened her:

    Me: Dry, low, hushed ironic tone: “Wow, you dance like Brasilena!”

    Her: Bursts out lauging in surprise. “You’re kidding me right?”

    Me: Dryly, “Actually, yes, you dance like you’re from New Jersey.”

    Her: I’m from Taiwan.

    Me: Sorry to hear that. It’s just I don’t like girls from New Jersey.

    Her: laughing still…. “Where are from?”

    Me: New Jersey…

    She was holding my hand, lapping this shit up.

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  21. One way some plain janes have stayed in my life a lot is because I told them to “always bring a friend” to introduce me to. 😉

    The reverse could not really apply. No self-respecting man would say “I’ll bring a cute rich friend of mine if you have dinner with me on Thursday”.

    Plain women, on the other hand, will do this to keep a friendship going, especially if I sometimes promise to bring another male friend along.

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  22. @Nicole

    It’s not like we went out or owe each other anything. She knew what she was in for because I told her from the start.

    Do girls tell guys that? They game them the same way. I owe this chick nothing. In the context of this post, it was a mistake to have banged her.

    Now she’s like this needy gamer trying to intrigue me into more when it’s really all about satisfying her ego of banging a hot guy.

    Funny when the tables are turned how women get so indignant.

    You’re right, it’s not fair, but I used to engage like that, be straight with girls.

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  23. @jr

    Text game, Facebook game is about building intrigue and attraction or maintaining it.

    But it has to have been there in the first meeting and the buying temperature has to be high.

    if you let it lapse, then constant text game becomes annoying if it’s not leading anywhere.

    But in a big city or when people are traveling and busy, it can serve to stoke the flames if it’s brief, appropriate and has some purpose.

    I find late night texts are best.

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  24. Nicole, agreed. Icy cold fuck off is a decent thing to do–it is a release. Ambiguity games are manipulative, passive-aggressive crap.

    There is a place for ambiguity games, but not in this context.

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  25. Nicole, Morsellaux,

    A clean break is best, but in my experience, when you are breaking it off with a plain girl who is batting out of her league with you, she will go mf’ing crazy on you, no matter what you do. Just change your locks in advance, get papers for a restraining order filled out just in case, and try to make a clean break while convincing her that she will do better without you. Actually, forget that last part. It didn’t work for me.

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  26. JR, when I first saw the post title, I thought it would be something along the lines of what you’re saying. Mentally downgrading a 9 to a 6, and letting that shine through in your interactions = solid game. Roissy however is saying that men should use what they are attracted to in girls as a guide for how to behave. This advice is straight out of a MSM relationship advice column, with all the awfulness that entails.

    Girls are most successful at winning male commitment when they are sweet, open and genuine. That is how they win their true prize from men, the “heart tingle.” Do high-T sarcastic riot-grrls earn a cock tingle? Yes they do. But they will earn nothing more, and are thus analogous low-value male beta orbiters. If a man were to copy what he perceives as effective girl-game, he would quickly find himself the celibate attendee of more platonic movie nights than he could count.

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  27. Title of this post should have been “Plain Jane Game”.

    o well

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  28. This is a good conscious jedi-mind-trick, on yourself.

    Point is: every time I’ve approached a very hot girl, I’ve had to be completely uninterested to get a response.

    The situation in the example was good: The guy virtually ignored the girl (inadvertently). CR’s response was also good.

    Put some thought into texts.

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  29. The proprieter of the chateau is well aware of the pitfalls of projection.
    The efforts of a plain girl is a decent proxy for your own efforts, but it’s might mislead some readers.

    Btw, telling a fat chick or a plain jane to fuck off is infinitely better than stringing her along or feeding off her confusion and hopefulness and pain.
    She will find a way to violently cockblock you, and it’ll be hard to get rid of her from your life.

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  30. Wala says, “It’s not like we went out or owe each other anything. She knew what she was in for because I told her from the start.”

    You might have told her the sex was casual, but I don’t think you told her in advance that it was a true hit and forget. If you had, then she wouldn’t be the fat chick you fucked when you were drunk. She’d be the psycho stalker.

    “Do girls tell guys that?”

    It is a bad idea to apply generalities to an individual who you as an individual are dealing with.

    “They game them the same way.”

    Is this chick part of the “they”? If so, why is she still calling you?

    “I owe this chick nothing.”

    She owes you nothing either. That owing thing swings both ways. All’s fair, but I’m just saying…

    I delete a guy’s number if I don’t hear from him for 48 hours. She’s giving you a lot more than I would.

    “In the context of this post, it was a mistake to have banged her.”

    In any context, it was a mistake. You were aiming low, and you’re treating as if she personally wronged you by having that last twinkie or something.

    I suppose some guys among the more rabid fat hating do feel personally wronged by some women being fat, but they’re not shagging Shamu either.

    That’s called consistency: not shagging people who disgust you.

    “Now she’s like this needy gamer trying to intrigue me into more when it’s really all about satisfying her ego of banging a hot guy.”

    Maybe you, the hot guy, actually make her horny. Imagine that…someone looking at someone beautiful and wanting to shag them because they excite them.

    “Funny when the tables are turned how women get so indignant.”

    I’m not indignant about your not wanting to talk to her. I’m indignant about your being too much of a punk to answer her with a simple, “I don’t want to see you again.”

    If you feel you made a mistake then burn the bridge.

    …unless, like one of my Gay boy level demonically hot stealth-ars ex boyfriends, you don’t want to burn the bridge because she does something for you that others don’t. Maybe something important that you’re looking to find in the unicorn, but your instincts are telling you that would be like finding an honest lawyer.

    “You’re right, it’s not fair, but I used to engage like that, be straight with girls.”

    Well, this is one case, you should be direct. Just tell her so she knows.

    If as Sidewinder says, she goes crazy, it’s your own damn fault for not making things clear before her hamster got running.

    Hopefully, she’ll be like me. When I get dumped or even played too aloof, I disappear. I don’t have the patience to talk to walls.

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  31. What if she texted this instead:

    “You forgot your engagement ring inside my vagina. What did we do last night?”

    That would be more intriging.

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  32. on August 23, 2010 at 2:07 pm (R)Evolutionary

    This post is interestingly titled and worded; it seems our host at the Chateau has been reading or channeling an ancient Oriental sage; An ancient text titled “Classic of the Plain Girl,” or Su Nu Ching, advises us as men to think of ourselves as gold and the women we bed as tile or stone, an ancient explication of DHV:

    “In engaging the enemy a man should regard her as so much tiles or stone and himself as gold or jade. When his ching is aroused, he should immediately withdraw from her territory. One should mount a woman as if riding a galloping horse with rotten reins or as if fearful of falling into a deep pit lined with knife blades. If you treasure your ching, your life will have no limit.”

    Roissy, I’m sure, would have been one of the ancient sages who bedded thousands of young women, absorbing their chi, in order to bolster his own. One might say this blog is evidence of this truth.

    Some interesting quotes on Taoist sex practices here:
    http://sacred-sex.org/taoism/su-nu-ching

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  33. The only thing that should be in a text are instructions. IE “come over at 11:00”

    Actual gaming is so much powerful in person.

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  34. Roissy, I’m sure, would have been one of the ancient sages who bedded thousands of young women, absorbing their chi, in order to bolster his own. One might say this blog is evidence of this truth.

    How does this ching thing tie into the fiat butthex matrix? There must be a connection.

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  35. maybe there are multiple writers at the chateau

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  36. “An acquaintance invites me to meet some girls who are in town for a short while. It turned out to be a chaperoned “date” with his parents, us two guys and three girls.”

    What the fuck kind of acquaintance does that?

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  37. Jerry–

    a variant of that is all that I’ve had to do to get a 9+ into my apartment (“Hey, come on over to my cool air-conditioned apartment and I’ll cook dinner for you”).

    A better variant would be “and we’ll cook dinner together”.

    That makes being with you the prize, not your serving her.

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  38. on August 23, 2010 at 2:46 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””””’Nestorius
    What if she texted this instead:

    “You forgot your engagement ring inside my vagina. What did we do last night?”

    That would be more intriging.

    ”””””
    that was funny as fuck.

    We got to hang out in beruit even if the bitches are wacked. Got to be some decent ones.

    ””””on August 23, 2010 at 2:07 pm (R)Evolutionary
    “In engaging the enemy a man should regard her as so much tiles or stone and himself as gold or jade. When his ching is aroused, he should immediately withdraw from her territory. One should mount a woman as if riding a galloping horse with rotten reins or as if fearful of falling into a deep pit lined with knife blades. If you treasure your ching, your life will have no limit.””””””

    Interesting take. There is truth in this. You can enjoy them but at same time do not allow them to control you. They can’t do a good job of it they are not men. he he he
    You must keep yourself hard to their whiles for the benefit of the family.

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  39. Nicole

    Wala, why don’t you just tell her you don’t want to see her anymore?

    Instead of fat and seemingly something like a 4, let’s make her a slightly chubby 6 who sometimes loses her weight and gets up to a 6.5. If she’s also good a good personality and attitude she can make a quite good fuck buddy to have around. If she considers you a male 8 or 9 (less alpha or alpha) and you get along well, though you tease her quite a bit, she’s likely to have that good attitude.

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  40. on August 23, 2010 at 2:55 pm gunslingergregi

    I will never get you guys and the cooking thing.

    You are fucking up. Seriously.

    Like your taking something from your woman that could be her way of being meaningfull. Give her a sense of daily satisfaction in being able to please you. It is actually a selfish thing to do.
    What else is she gonna do to impress you.

    If you cook the best, clean the best, and make more money. lol

    Oh yea plus fuck the best. Plus have more fucking stories.

    So what is left for her to do on a daily basis?

    What are you even looking for a woman for?

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  41. Good points gunslinger. My woman lets me know how happy it makes her to satisfy me- whether it be at the dinner table or in the bedroom.

    This is the happy equilibrium that tight game can engender.

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  42. Guns,
    in Beirut, whenever you can make it.

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  43. on August 23, 2010 at 6:07 pm gunslingergregi

    Appreciate it.

    Either I make it to level where I can travel where I want when I want or I will die trying.

    he he he

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  44. Doug, if that were so, she wouldn’t still be calling him. She’d have better things to do.

    Even I have better things to do than talk to walls, and I’m legitimately fat and old.

    So the girl’s either lacking options, lacking dignity, or infatuated.

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  45. @gunslingergregi

    Like your taking something from your woman that could be her way of being meaningfull. Give her a sense of daily satisfaction in being able to please you. It is actually a selfish thing to do.
    What else is she gonna do to impress you.

    Dunno, but maybe try and reframe that. I cook better than most women I’ve come across, and I truly enjoy eating good food, and trying new dishes. If you look at it that way, you can frame it as “this is what I can do and what I like, can you do better?”

    In a sense, you could be throwing down the gauntlet for her to pick up, if she dares.

    Or maybe that’s too man-thinking?

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  46. Most guys learning game fall flat frequently with their attempts at cockiness. Sometimes skillful arrogance stokes a girl’s embers, but some cocky comments have the same flame-quenching effect they would have on a man, especially if there’s no spark to fan. I think Chateau’s test is good for figuring out which playful teasing will work, and which won’t.

    Sure, Zdeno is right that this test will mislead you if you use it to decide whether girls respond better to sincerity or superiority. But I think he’s misunderstanding how this test should be applied. Imagine how Roissy would use this test; don’t imagine how an average guy with no exposure to game would use it.

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  47. I think guys should be more available for communication. I met this guy who is a super alpha and I’m really into him, but he’s so hard to get a hold of it drives me nuts.

    He’s like twice my age and has really old fashioned ways of communicating. I mean, he doesn’t txt at all. He has a phone thats not even capable of sending or recieving texts, how old fashioned is that? And he keeps his cell phone turned off almost all the time because he doesn’t like being interrupted. He said the only reason he even carries a cell phone is in case his car breaks down and he needs to call a ride.

    I think he grew up before there were such things as txts and cell phones, and he doesn’t think of them as his main communication methods. He mainly uses his home phone. Yeah, an old fashioned land line phone, how quaint is that?
    And he has the phone hooked up to an answering machine which he uses to screen his calls. He never answers directly, Ii just get the machine and have to leave a message. Its so frustrating.

    So lots of times I want to tell him something but I can’t send a text, so I call his cell and get voicemail, so I call his office and get his secretary and he’s in a meeting or whatever, so later I call his house and get the machine, and leave a message. Then he gets back to me … eventually. Usually the next day. Arrghhh!!!!

    And its useless to call him at night. He always turns the phone off before going to sleep because he doesn’t like to be waked up by calls. He thinks its more important to get his sleep than to talk to people. He even said there’s nothing that’s so important it can’t wait until morning.

    So I said what if you were the president and there was a nuclear attack or something? He laughed and said thats why
    he says no to all the people who want him to run for president.

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  48. @Cindi

    Ironically, you have just made an excellent case for the guys to be less available. It’s pretty clear it’s working well for him.

    How interested were you in the guys who called you all the time and were always available?

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  49. Cindi,

    Exactly.

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  50. on August 23, 2010 at 9:38 pm gunslingergregi

    They had cell phones in the 70’s shit ain’t new.

    Why it is cool not to have one.

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  51. @Nicole

    “”Even I have better things to do than talk to walls, and I’m legitimately fat and old.

    So the girl’s either lacking options, lacking dignity, or infatuated.””

    This is a good learning for any guy who does the same things. Elsewhere here, it’s characterized as “overgaming”.

    The “Lacking options” is what gets guys in a state where they’ve got “one-itis” and thinking their game will save them because it’s what got the girl giving IOI’s in the first place.

    Leaving when the attraction is high and calibrating contact is vital.

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  52. on August 23, 2010 at 10:27 pm David Collard

    Cooking is a feminine function. In nearly 25 years of marriage, I have never cooked and served a meal to my wife.

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  53. pupu has trouble playing this game in her head. it gets her very mixed up very soon.

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  54. @pupu

    You are in luck, the Sarlacc is here and can do all the thinking for you thanks to his immense brain capacity.

    The key to the exchange is a reciprocal projection of the situation, where the food thinks about what the other food may be thinking that the original food would do in case the other food would act in one way or another.

    The male should think what the female would think in case it asked the omnipresent question prompted by the universal silent cue: two minutes of the male not saying a word. This question is “what are you thinking?”

    At this point the important thing is NOT to answer “I was thinking of what you would be thinking.” the feedback loop should be that if the male is thinking what the female would think when an hyopthetical male (remember, they are doing a projection exercise) acts in an aloof manner, such as would increase the attraction created by an hypothetical female who was attracted to the original male in the first place. What this also does, in the brain of the male, is create a fork where there is a second possibility, that of the female not being highly interested in the first place, and thus requiring an immediate response, that of a hypothetical male which is capable of re-sparking the attraction of the uninterested female with a well placed intriguing, and perhaps ambiguous statement. The problem in that case is that the first hypothetical female would undoubtedly be even more interested in the second hypothetical male, so they’d likely make out, leave together, and leave two very aloof foods (the second hypothetical female and the first hypothetical male), and a very confused original female who would have a hard time digesting the response of the original male.

    The Sarlacc would eat the rest. :OE

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  55. @Cindi

    “”I think guys should be more available for communication. I met this guy who is a super alpha and I’m really into him, but he’s so hard to get a hold of it drives me nuts.””

    Twice your age, never takes your calls, acts aloof…and you’re chasing after him?

    What is it about this guy that you find so attractive?

    This is interesting.

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  56. Cindi’s parody is so funny it must have been written by a man.

    “He thinks it’s more important to get his sleep than to talk to people.” Hilarious.

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  57. Cindi says, “He’s like twice my age and has really old fashioned ways of communicating. I mean, he doesn’t txt at all. He has a phone thats not even capable of sending or recieving texts, how old fashioned is that? And he keeps his cell phone turned off almost all the time because he doesn’t like being interrupted. He said the only reason he even carries a cell phone is in case his car breaks down and he needs to call a ride.”

    Where can I find one like this?

    Does he have any brothers?

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  58. ““He thinks it’s more important to get his sleep than to talk to people.” Hilarious.”

    Why? I don’t get it.

    That’s pretty much my motto: interrupt my sleep and risk excruciating pain, if not death. The guy sounds like a sensible fucking human being.

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  59. First piece of Chateau advice I really disagree with. Pretending that a plain girl is gaming you is a trap that ends up with you projecting.

    Firstly, girls don’t ‘game’. Secondly, male and female responses are going to be profoundly differently. Therefore don’t do it.

    You could easily reach the same conclusions by imagining that a) she’s not that into you or b) she thinks she’s way hotter than you.

    Projection is the source of lots of evil.

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  60. Speaking of Plain Janes, here’s the latest roundup of men’s news:

    As Tiger signs the official documents paying $100 million to Elin, She Doesn’t Talk to Him at the Official Divorce Proceeding

    http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/23/tiger-woods-elin-nordegren-together-divorce-finalized-florida/

    If I were Tiger I’d have said “Wait…there’s one thing we need to do here and that’s take a zero away from the settlement amount”.

    Notice the misandry in the comments, still coming from clueless betas like “Dude in FL”.

    Meanwhile feminist lawyer Gloria Allred mouths off about Tiger:

    http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/23/gloria-allred-tiger-woods-divorce-elin-nordegren-statement/

    Article says that Polygamy is Feminist

    http://bigthink.com/ideas/22921

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  61. It can save your life to tell your kids to trust adult men. CNN reports that a 3 year old was constantly told by her parents that a firehouse was filled with “people that can help you in an emergency”. She went there when her father collapsed and saved his life by getting help:

    http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/08/22/california.toddler.heroine/#fbid=yC1Ddz5lVIl&wom=false

    Imagine if they’d taught the kid to be afraid of everyone.

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  62. on August 24, 2010 at 9:43 am gunslingergregi

    Beat the shit out of a tiger with a golf club and get a hundred mil lol

    I guess if she would have killed him she would have got it all.

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  63. […] Read the entire thing here. […]

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  64. @gunslingergregi

    Beat the shit out of a tiger with a golf club and get a hundred mil lol

    I suppose that makes him the world’s biggest piñata.

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  65. This a way to prevent sending weird creepy tripped-up telegrams, not a simulator for a relationship.

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  66. on August 24, 2010 at 9:45 pm Gunslingergregi

    If I had a billion dollars I’d let a bitch beat me then take all my money.
    If I had a billion dollars I’d make a prenumpt and write I could take a week vacation from my woman.
    If I had a billion dollars I’d get on the phone with some how I banged and be like yo bitch don’t make me threaten you and shit.
    Then do it multiple times.
    If I had a billion dollars I’d give half to a one legged bitch.
    If I had a billion dollars oh god please if I only had a billion dollars.
    lol wtf is wrong with billionaires. They need somebody to teach them how to have a life.
    Shit.
    Roissy start writing letters maybe you can save the next billion dollar snafu.

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  67. on August 24, 2010 at 9:50 pm Gunslingergregi

    lol RMM

    Oh shit you know what maybe game has been working and the media trying to fight back and get the woman to go out with the rich dudes or some shit.

    I mean my bitch is fine as fuck. Her body is unreal better than the new ms universe I know that.

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  68. Gunslinger:

    lol wtf is wrong with billionaires. They need somebody to teach them how to have a life

    Becoming a billionaire pretty much requires that you not have a life, so that you can be single-minded and obsessed enough to get to that point.
    Think of the personality type you’d have to have, to keep working after you’d already made half a billion dollars. So that you could make the other half of the billion.

    Therefore, the guys who make it to that point are, shocker!, mostly the type with the personality that’s predisposed toward that kind of single-minded obsession. Hence, yeah, most of them aren’t going to “have a life”.
    Or even want to.

    This is also why I have a good chuckle when our host lambastes guys like Mark Zuckerman for not having hotter wives/girlfriends. Again, Mark Zuckerman is where he is, at such a young age, in no small part precisely because he really just doesn’t care all that much about chasing skirt. Our host, on the other hand, is no doubt more accomplished than Zuckerman in the pussy department, but will never (and could never) get nearly as far in the corporate world.
    Priorities.

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  69. SOMEBODY SAID: “The “Lacking options” is what gets guys in a state where they’ve got “one-itis” and thinking their game will save them because it’s what got the girl giving IOI’s in the first place.

    Leaving when the attraction is high and calibrating contact is vital.”

    Right. But when you start taking it too far by cancelling dates, you just shot yourself in the foot

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  70. on August 26, 2010 at 12:15 am Gunslingergregi

    although I guess still better to be the billionaire

    EMINEM LYRICS

    Send “If I Had…” Ringtone to your Cell

    “If I Had…”

    Life.. by Marshall Mathers
    What is life?
    Life is like a big obstacle
    put in front of your optical to slow you down
    And everytime you think you gotten past it
    it’s gonna come back around and tackle you to the damn ground
    What are friends?
    Friends are people that you think are your friends
    But they really your enemies, with secret indentities
    and disguises, to hide they true colors
    So just when you think you close enough to be brothers
    they wanna come back and cut your throat when you ain’t lookin
    What is money?
    Money is what makes a man act funny
    Money is the root of all evil
    Money’ll make them same friends come back around
    swearing that they was always down
    What is life?
    I’m tired of life
    I’m tired of backstabbing ass snakes with friendly grins
    I’m tired of committing so many sins
    Tired of always giving in when this bottle of Henny wins
    Tired of never having any ends
    Tired of having skinny friends hooked on crack and mini-thins
    I’m tired of this DJ playing YOUR shit when he spins
    Tired of not having a deal
    Tired of having to deal with the bullshit without grabbing the steel
    Tired of drowning in my sorrow
    Tired of having to borrow a dollar for gas to start my Monte Carlo
    I’m tired of motherfuckers spraying shit and dartin off
    I’m tired of jobs startin off at five fifty an hour
    then this boss wanders why I’m smartin off
    I’m tired of being fired everytime I fart and cough
    Tired of having to work as a gas station clerk
    for this jerk breathing down my neck driving me bezerk
    I’m tired of using plastic silverware
    Tired of working in Building Square
    Tired of not being a millionaire

    But if I had a million dollars
    I’d buy a damn brewery, and turn the planet into alcoholics
    If I had a magic wand, I’d make the world suck my dick
    without a condom on, while I’m on the john
    If I had a million bucks
    it wouldn’t be enough, because I’d still be out
    robbing armored trucks
    If I had one wish
    I would ask for a big enough ass for the whole world to kiss

    I’m tired of being white trash, broke and always poor
    Tired of taking pop bottles back to the party store
    I’m tired of not having a phone
    Tired of not having a home to have one in if I did have it on
    Tired of not driving a BM
    Tired of not working at GM, tired of wanting to be him
    Tired of not sleeping without a Tylenol PM
    Tired of not performing in a packed coliseum
    Tired of not being on tour
    Tired of fucking the same blonde whore after work
    in the back of a Contour
    I’m tired of faking knots with a stack of ones
    Having a lack of funds and resorting back to guns
    Tired of being stared at
    I’m tired of wearing the same damn Nike Air hat
    Tired of stepping in clubs wearing the same pair of Lugz
    Tired of people saying they’re tired of hearing me rap about drugs
    Tired of other rappers who ain’t bringin half the skill as me
    saying they wasn’t feeling me on “Nobody’s As Ill As Me”
    I’m tired of radio stations telling fibs
    Tired of J-L-B saying “Where Hip-Hop Lives”

    But if I had a million dollars
    I’d buy a damn brewery, and turn the planet into alcoholics
    If I had a magic wand, I’d make the world suck my dick
    without a condom on, while I’m on the john
    If I had a million bucks
    it wouldn’t be enough, because I’d still be out
    robbing armored trucks
    If I had one wish
    I would ask for a big enough ass for the whole world to kiss

    You know what I’m saying?
    I’m tired of all of this bullshit
    Telling me to be positive
    How’m I ‘sposed to be positive when I don’t see shit positive?
    Know what I’m sayin?
    I rap about shit around me, shit I see
    Know what I’m sayin? Right now I’m tired of everything
    Tired of all this player hating that’s going on in my own city
    Can’t get no airplay, you know what I’m sayin?
    But ey, it’s cool though, you know what I’m sayin?
    Just fed up
    That’s my word

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  71. on August 26, 2010 at 12:19 am Gunslingergregi

    Better than this sometimes though I am pretty sure he he he

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