Another Feminist Myth Debunked: Women’s Sex Drive Is Not As Strong As Men’s

Feminists love to claim that women’s sex drive is as strong as any man’s. They assert this because it would be a blow against their crippled, withered ideology to accept that there is a sex-based difference in libido. Acceptance of this reality would also undermine a key tenet of left wing women’s studies programs that the crazy things men do for access to hot, young, slender women are motivated not by sexual urge but by “social conditioning” or power dynamics. And, in what is probably the most galling humiliation should the truth supplant establishment lies, it would silence the tankgrrl and slutwalker battle cry that they love to slut it up just as much as men, and can do so without suffering any of the trite emotional consequences which they have convinced themselves are nothing but a manufactured burden foisted on them by the patriarchy.

Too bad for feminists the science totally refutes their core beliefs. Across a slew of studies, the conclusion is unavoidable: men have stronger sex drives. Via Randall Parker over at Parapundit, the following study:

The sex drive refers to the strength of sexual motivation. Across many different studies and measures, men have been shown to have more frequent and more intense sexual desires than women, as reflected in spontaneous thoughts about sex, frequency and variety of sexual fantasies, desired frequency of intercourse, desired number of partners, masturbation, liking for various sexual practices, willingness to forego sex, initiating versus refusing sex, making sacrifices for sex, and other measures. No contrary findings (indicating stronger sexual motivation among women) were found. Hence we conclude that the male sex drive is stronger than the female sex drive. The gender difference in sex drive should not be generalized to other constructs such as sexual or orgasmic capacity, enjoyment of sex, or extrinsically motivated sex.

It’s been written on this blog before that a woman can be just as voracious in the sack as a man, as long as she is in bed with a man she desires. But discrete sexual voracity is not the same as generalized sexual appetite. Wise women know better than to confuse their unleashed libido in bed with a man they love for a lusty exuberance to do every inspiring member of the opposite sex within their visual field. The latter is the domain of men, and men alone.

Women have some preternatural sexual abilities and reservoirs in bed that many men would envy, like multiple orgasms and erogenous zones, but no woman, except the rarest outlier, experiences the clawing, wall-climbing, unrelenting horniness to mass pound brigades of complementary genitalia like men experience every moment of every day.

If you like your smartphones and Netflix and just about anything that is a grade above grass huts, it’s a good thing they don’t, either.





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  1. on August 4, 2011 at 3:20 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    the only timee ee my girlfireend evber had as storng a as sex dirve as me was when i was dta8ing this chcikc with a moustache and the funny thing about this chcick was her infatuation with my butt as she was always tryijgng to stick her cock into my butt lzozolozozlz she was nice and hot and had like no boobies but lzoozlz who am i 2 judge
    ? lzozolzlzloz

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  2. Gay men and lesbians demonstrate, I think, how sex drives are different, particularly how women are simply not as driven to want sex.

    That is, the frequency and variety that gay men have in their sex lives demonstrates what the world would look like if women really had something akin to male sex drives. Every night a bachanalia.

    The counterpoint to that is that women are just different, but that difference makes the drive no less powerful. The response is “lesbians”. Or rather the occurrence of what they call “Lesbian Bed Death” in lesbian relationships, where fairly quickly after moving in together (like, the second date…), lesbians stop having much sex at all, and don’t miss it.

    Put simply, a world where female sex drives were as powerful as men’s would look like a gay nighclub on saturday night. A world where male sex drives were like women’s in terms of ferocity would look like Tuesday book club at the local Womyn’s Book Collective.

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    • Very good point. I had a friend who was a cop in Provincetown, Mass.. gay vacation capital. One night they had to call ER because some guy’s hand got stuck up some guy’s ass while fisting him. AIDS rates are 25%++ in most cities among gay men, throat cancer, etc.. 500+ partners is the norm.

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  3. on August 4, 2011 at 3:35 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    ^^^^^
    “A world where male sex drives were like women’s in terms of ferocity would look like Tuesday book club at the local Womyn’s Book Collective.”‘

    OMG were u there last turesday>>>>??

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    to da local Womyn’s Book Collective

    lotsa ocockas 4 da alaidies! !:!O)ZLzlllzz

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  4. on August 4, 2011 at 3:45 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

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    oh wiat i know whwyw …

    it is shutting down she is slamming her legs shutt t savivng them for the losta gbfm cockas!! lzozozl

    2da mon da rise fo da cockas!!!

    that would be a good movie tietels!!! tititlwee!!!!

    whjihc would you see?

    tye polanet of the apper planet of teh apes or 2da mon da rise fo da cockas!!!

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  5. I have some of the signs of being a high T woman, so I told my husband I’m supposed to have a high sex drive. He found that amusing.

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  6. High T women may be the exception. They are the ones more likely to cheat, even on an alpha.

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  7. I believe one of the times a woman may even come close to feeling the kind of sexual intensity/desire a man typically feels on-going is before, during and/or shortly after menstruation. I don’t like porn. But I discovered certain times of the month (around my cycle) I want to (and sometimes do) view it, and then after my cycle passes, I have no desire whatsoever to look at it – that is until the next month. Light bulb moment! Women are horniest around their cycles.
    Women in LTR’s will and can enjoy sex out of those time frames b/c when you are in love you want to please your partner sexually and want to have a deeper emotional connection.

    I also believe women can go for very long periods of time without sex and still keep her sanity. A man? I am convinced if men don’t get laid regularly on average we’d be living in a war zone full of serial killers. LOL

    “but no woman, except the rarest outlier, experiences the clawing, wall-climbing, unrelenting horniness to mass pound brigades of complimentary genitalia like men experience every moment of every day.”

    LOL. Sometimes I just want to get inside a man’s body to see or feel that intensity they get to get laid b/c it must be a mofo based on some of the things men do to get laid.

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    • on August 4, 2011 at 4:05 pm Peregrine John

      I am convinced if men don’t get laid regularly on average we’d be living in a war zone full of serial killers.

      Demonstrable and demonstrated, both scientifically and historically.

      Sometimes I just want to get inside a man’s body to see or feel that intensity they get to get laid b/c it must be a mofo based on some of the things men do to get laid.

      Pretty much, yeah. The closest any normal woman can come to comprehending it is a regimen of testosterone injections (sometimes needed on a temporary basis, for whatever reason). The resulting roaring hunger should suffice to demonstrate what astounding self-control almost all men demonstrate on a daily basis.

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      • LOL So what is it – do you get a throbbing sensation all day or I mean is it a physical something that happens throughout the day? I am just trying to find something identifiable that i can relate it to. I know its intense but i often wonder what kind of intensity is comparable to it or what it feels like…

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      • It’s like you are with food.

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      • More like you obsessed with me? get a life you fucking prick. Every fucking thread on this site where I make a comment your tired stray dog ass is running behind me to make a post. FUCK YOU LOSER and stop following behind every fucking post i make you piece of shit, SHITHEAD.

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      • STFU, Neecy. Your shit is tired.

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      • I like you

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      • Well if you can like me when I am angry and in kill-a-mofo-mode, then you’ll love me when i’m happy! 🙂

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      • fuck this beast

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      • Hmm… I know a quick fix to that – stop posting so fucking much. Everything I read has two of your smart-assed misinformed posts.

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      • And for the record, this is my third post on this thread, a little above average for me. You have 26. How am I posting behind every comment of yours, again?

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      • This is the last time you will be acknowledged. Go back and read the last 10 topics made on this blog. Every topic you (among some other trollops) are running behind me making smart assed comments when i have not even addressed or acknowledged you.

        if you or anyone else here has a FUCKING problem with any FUCKING thing i say then FUCK YOU b/c I don’t give a FUCK.

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      • I think you have the dynamic wrong here, Neecy. You are the stray dog, following people for scraps of validation.

        I imagine this angry black woman bit you are doing here, profanity, implied shouting, would be pretty effective in real life. At least in the right context. But here, you have no sway. Nut up and deal.

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      • Bullshit. I can troll you all day, bitch, because you can’t shut the fuck up.

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      • Oh i am sure you will [email protected]! Keep following me loser – maybe you’ll learn something…

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      • Lol

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      • on August 4, 2011 at 6:00 pm Peregrine John

        For the feeling, the closest approximation is the nearly buzzing sensation you feel when you’re in the prime spot of your cycle and simply need cock now!! For the intensity, ingest very little for a couple of days (so your blood sugar’s nice and low) and then wander through your favorite restaurant.

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      • THANK YOU Pere. I don’t know where these other cockroaches felt the need to respond to a question I asked YOU. But thanks I think i get it now. LOL. And all I can say is DAMN I am glad i am not a man! You poor things LOL

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      • LOL Id rather be a man any day of the fucking week.

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      • on August 4, 2011 at 6:34 pm Peregrine John

        Yeah, I love my Y-chromasome, but some days it’s a bit much. After 25 or so the hormones stabilize enough and the self-discipline has bee trained enough that it’s not too bad.

        Oh – ignore the pests. There are men here, and there are boys.

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      • Pere,
        I think most women understand male sex drive on a basic level (that you need and want that release all the time) but not a microscopic level (what it feels like). I can’t imagine having such strong sexual urges all day long and not being able to release. But as you said I guess males adjust at some point and learn to control the urge.
        It would be dannnnnngerous if women in general had the same sexual drives as men. God knew what he was doing – there is a reason.
        The better men and women understand AND ACCEPT each other’s differences and drivers the better we can bridge the divide. Until then, love will be lost.

        RE: the Omega male losers here. Its unfortunate that they seem to be the most vocal. But an Omega/Gamma is what an Omega/Gamma does…..I suspect some of the anons are also ugly bitches who would *never* post a photo of themselves as well.

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      • “There are men here, and there are boys.”

        And there are those who enjoy getting their nuts stroked by attention craving, 30+ yo internet vixens with 10 year old pictures. You should have some self respect.

        Testosterone a bit too much for you? Maybe you should try some estrogen therapy.

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      • Is it that bad? OMG. What will happen when we’ll go back to conservative morals and forget about Feminism and when women won’t be willing to have casual sex anymore? What will happen to men, will they kill each other?
        Btw. Why do most men in my life look normal despite this mental illness?

        “when you’re in the prime spot of your cycle and simply need cock now!!”

        You can’t say for a woman that she needs a cock, because it could mean that just any cock would be okay, which can’t be further away from truth.

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      • Maya that’s why men married so much back in the day. So that they can have consistent sex on the regular without having to hunt for it. This is one of the driving factors of male willingess to marry in a society where sex from women is not easy to get. In socities where men can get thier sexual needs met pretty frequently without committment, you will see less marriages.

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      • Yes. And they married so young. But we should let them wait till 25-30 – only at that age they become alpha enough. I can’t believe that my friends had sex with teenage boys in high school. SMV disparity is just too high at that age. No wonder they were all complaining about how boring sex is.

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      • “What will happen to men, will they kill each other?”

        Why do you think there were so many wars?
        (Honest question)

        Old saying:
        “If you can’t eat it, piss on it, or fuck it, kill it”.

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      • Maya,

        It’s not mental illness. It’s a natural part of being a man. Saying that us being constantly horny is wrong or an illness would be akin to me telling you that your body is odd for having a monthly cycle. It’s bizarre to us because we don’t have to deal with it on a monthly basis, but it’s perfectly normal to you because you’ve lived with it for almost your entire life.

        Like peregrine said, it is like a buzzing sensation. If ignored to long, it becomes difficult to think straight. As to how men look normal, it’s simple. The vast majority of men have learned to discipline themselves on controlling it. The ones that don’t learn that are the assholes that commit rape (the real kind, not the “He made me uncomfortable in an elevator” kind).

        What you need to understand is that most of what men accomplish in life is directly tied to what they believe will get them laid. Before this time, getting married was the only surefire way to get laid. So, men did what they had to do to get married (read: work to earn enough to support a family, study, excel, etc.) and thus, ensure they got laid consistently. Now that sex is plentiful and can be found easily without marriage, marriage is getting rarer and men don’t work anywhere near as hard as we used to.

        If (when) we return to the age of no Feminist bullshit and conservative morality, then men will start marrying and working again because that’ll be the only way we’ll get consistently laid.

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      • @rick,

        “Why do you think there were so many wars?”

        I don’t know. I thought that racism is what causes wars, not some sexual motivations. Women don’t like killing in general. Knowing the fact that a man killed someone would lower his SMV to zero in my eyes no matter how powerful he would be otherwise. Winning wars does not make a man look sexy.

        @Matt,

        Sorry. I didn’t mean it seriously (mental illness).

        “Now that sex is plentiful and can be found easily without marriage, marriage is getting rarer and men don’t work anywhere near as hard as we used to.”

        So that’s why there are so many lazy men? Women have to do everything. Full time job, kids, cooking, cleaning, ironing, …

        “If (when) we return to the age of no Feminist bullshit and conservative morality, then men will start marrying and working again because that’ll be the only way we’ll get consistently laid.”

        And women will lose weight and be beautiful again because this will be the only way to convince a man to marry them.

        These days you can’t expect commitment from men … So why should we bother being slim and beautiful – to be used like FWB before we are too old even for that?

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      • @ Maya,

        I don’t know. I thought that racism is what causes wars, not some sexual motivations. Women don’t like killing in general. Knowing the fact that a man killed someone would lower his SMV to zero in my eyes no matter how powerful he would be otherwise. Winning wars does not make a man look sexy.

        Racism caused wars? Really? What race were the French, Germans, & British? The Romans? Possibly Caucasian? The majority of war is for economic reasons.
        Not talking WWI or WWII. Go back 400 – 500 years, 1,000 years, 2,500 years.
        .
        “Back in the day” it didn’t matter what women liked or what you thought looked sexy. The winners took what they wanted and killed what they didn’t.

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      • “Yes. And they married so young. But we should let them wait till 25-30 – only at that age they become alpha enough. ”

        Well I just know that there is a correlation between male commitment and easy to get sex (w/o commitment) and hard to get sex (with commitment). IOW’s I believe the men married so young for many reasons, but one is they knew they would not get sex from random women they were not in a relationship with. Nowadays a guy doesn’t need even a g/f he wants consistent sex from a girl or girls in general.

        Back in the day women taught their daughters that having sex out of wedlock etc., reduced her chances to find a husband and start a family. Therefore women used their sexuality to gain male commitment. I don’t so much see a problem with that b/c both parties benefited as well as the communities and children.
        One group of men that seem to marry young consistently and more frequently are military guys.

        Either way I don’t think women have to make men wait for sex till their 25-30, but women should definitely not be so willing to sleep around so much with so many different men they are not in relationships with. If more women today started demanding more commitment/relationships from men through holding off on sex, then men will go with the flow. As long as men can get it freely and whenever they want, they have no incentives to do anything more.

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      • Neecy,

        “… women should definitely not be so willing to sleep around so much with so many different men they are not in relationships with. If more women today started demanding more commitment/relationships from men through holding off on sex …”

        Yes, but some women benefit from having sex on the first date, because they don’t really have anything to offer and than they offer their bodies hoping that a man will fall in love with them because of that. These women can’t demand commitment from men by any other means because they are bitchy and annoying (or maybe not cute enough) and men would run away from them in case they waited for the second date …

        I was wondering about this when I recently decided not to have sex before marriage. No only that it devalues a man in some way (so I’m afraid he will resent me – which is much worse than sex before marriage) it also probably makes today’s men run away – they can get sex somewhere else. (I don’t know for sure because I only told that to one guy and he thought I’m crazy).

        I guess all women should decide not to have sex before marriage. But it won’t happen. Those who have nothing else to offer will always try to get a man by offering their bodies …

        “I don’t so much see a problem with that b/c both parties benefited as well as the communities and children.”

        Exactly. But who cares about children today? We don’t need them, apparently.

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      • “These women can’t demand commitment from men by any other means because they are bitchy and annoying (or maybe not cute enough) and men would run away from them in case they waited for the second date …”

        YES. But instead of wokring on those flaws, they worsen the situation by sleeping around making themselves more crazy after realizing men don’t stick around.

        “I was wondering about this when I recently decided not to have sex before marriage. No only that it devalues a man in some way (so I’m afraid he will resent me – which is much worse than sex before marriage) it also probably makes today’s men run away – they can get sex somewhere else. (I don’t know for sure because I only told that to one guy and he thought I’m crazy).”

        You mean your virginity devalues a man? I am not sure what you meant. I don’t think your virginity devalues a man or yourself at all. In fact, I think it shows some character (especially for a young woman) considering most young women today have used sex as barter for male attention/affection. The fact you have chosen the path of least resistance would actually make most men with decency proud to be your b/f or husband.

        “I guess all women should decide not to have sex before marriage. But it won’t happen. Those who have nothing else to offer will always try to get a man by offering their bodies …”

        Exactly….

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      • @rick,

        “Racism caused wars? Really? ”

        Or xenophobia. I don’t know.

        ““Back in the day” it didn’t matter what women liked or what you thought looked sexy. The winners took what they wanted and killed what they didn’t.”

        Ew. But we’re not like that anymore, hopefully.

        @Neecy

        Well, I thought a guy could resent me if I make him wait. He could think I’m not worth waiting. I don’t know. I’m not a virgin because of my amazing character but because of the problems I had in my head.
        However, I could have sex now, but knowing many sad stories about broken hearts of my friends, I don’t want to do it before being 95% sure that the guy will want to marry me. I don’t want anyone to break my heart after a year of having sex with him …

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      • Peregrine John, you must be a noob around here.

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      • on August 4, 2011 at 6:59 pm Peregrine John

        Been here since long before some pathetic cretins drove Kassy away, and I don’t know how many here ever saw her.. I just usually absorb the wisdom, ignore the trolls and apply the Way of the Chateau in real life. Not much to say, usually.

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      • Pere,

        Please don’t allow yourself to be tainted or made to feel guilty b/c you act like a real man is supposed to act by some of the Omega losers here. its soo refreshing to see a REAL MAN speak and interact on these boards. It doesn’t happen quite often.

        Not even the esteemed host (Heartiste) acts like a scumbag. Not sure why so many of them are drawn here.

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      • Neecy’s “Real Men” transl. = as SHE likes them in some kind of adopted narrative. Whether it has any bearing on reality or not, is in her mind (<=allow me the metaphor here) utterly irrelevant. She'd still rect to men according to her hamster programming, whether she'd be aware of the discrepancy or not. That is what hamster is for.

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      • All hes doing is feeding her insatiable hunger.

        Neecy is here to play “lets you and him fight”. Shes “coyly” batting her eyelashes at posters who don’t find her walls of gibberish immediately repulsive, who let the glaring obviousness of her character slide.

        Not to mention all of the fresh female voices here that encourage bean flicking group hug sessions in every post.

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      • OMG – really, it’s that intense?!? It’s a good thing women aren’t the ones with testosterone, because there is no way I could control myself the way *most* of you guys do. I would be raping every man I see!! For me, being horny for 5 days is too much!

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      • “Demonstrable and demonstrated, both scientifically and historically.” Absolute bullshit, Only if you are already a psycopath. However I do agree that in today’s constantly stimulated society, many men would feel inadequate and violent for a lack of sex, but in previous times it was more manageable (women were forbidden to go in the exhibitionist instincts unlike today).

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    • Honey, your incessant spam and insight-free commentary only detract from the blog.

      Perhaps you should move on to a site focused on some of your other interests, like stuffing your face with Ho Hos and chocolate ice cream.

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      • FUCK YOU – go choke on a d!ck and die please. Thank you…

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      • And she knows about choking on dicks. For real.

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      • Neecy, please limit yourself to one comment per blog post. Thank you.

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      • Neecy – you are ruining this blog. Please leave and never return. Truly awful.

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      • Ummm, there are plenty of insight-free commentary here. I don’t see why her comments any different.

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      • Oh Neecy, not saying that there’s anything wrong with your comments or anything lol! In fact, you’ve had some great ones on here. Just pointing out that your comments are any worse than the others on here (“others” being your average response on a post or another comment)

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      • No worries babe 😉 i am not paying the losers any mind. they have been trying to run me out of here for 3 weeks unsuccessfully.

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      • You’ve now been told to limit your comments to one per post thankfully. Sure there are arseholes here but that’s not the point. Point is you are being overbearing and aggressive and it’s not desired here. Go elsewhere to be a pain in the arse please.

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      • First off if you actually believe that was Heartiste then you’re the idiot. I am sure he would have posted in his usual format of commenting within a person’s comment post.

        Secondly, i have ALREADY emailed him early last week (when he changed the site) asking him if he felt I was being disruptive to his blog or if I was unwanted here, to please let me know and I would leave gracefully. I have yet since heard back from him and my comments are still being published. So what does that mean for you? UNTIL the owner of this blog asks me to leave or stops allowing me to post, the rest of you who have a prob with me can go to hell.

        It is NOT YOUR BLOG to call shots on who can and should not post. If you think i will leave simply b/c of the few omega losers who can’t ignore my comments then alli can say is too bad. The only person who will make me leave is the owner of the blog. And if he does, I will do so gracefully with no hard feelings b/c its his space and HIS BLOG – NOT YOU or anyone elses!

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      • How is she being overbearing and aggressive of all things???

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    • Heh, this is nothing. Try being pregnant. It may not be the same as the continual horniness a man faces, but holy crap. After experiencing that, I wonder how they can make it through the day and get anything done.

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      • Really Sting?! yeah i can’t imagine having such horniness throughout the day everyday. i mean how do they accomplish half the shit they do in a day with this lingering over their heads (or rather in their pants) LOL

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      • Absolutely. Not so for all women but a great many. By my third, I couldn’t wait to put the first two to bed. After 7:00 it was game on.

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      • LOL You poor thing – how hard it must have been to try to manuever into different positions. I’m sure your hubby had better appreciate you. Its takes one hell of a woman to get her freak on while preggers. I just keep imagining the scene from knocked up when Kathryn heigle and Seth Rogen were trying to have sex. LOL

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      • Huge boobs, Neecy. He loved it.

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      • And yeah, maneuvering was interesting, to say the least. ; )

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      • Huge and firm to the touch? Yep! That’s why you were on baby number 3 😉

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    • You really want to know what it’s like?
      Take this:
      “I believe one of the times a woman may even come close to feeling the kind of sexual intensity/desire a man typically feels on-going is before, during and/or shortly after menstruation”

      multiply it by a factor of ten, then do it every seven seconds that you are awake every day for 50 years.

      You might come close.

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      • Oh. damn. Then I am really sorry. i am. Now I am just *that* much more sensitive to what you men go through. Eeeks. Next time I see some random guy on the street, i’m just going to him a hug and tell him its gonna be OKAY.

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      • “i’m just going to him a hug and tell him its gonna be OKAY.”

        Don’t tell him. MAKE it ok. Take him home and fuck him.
        Take one for the team.

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      • Yeah, Neecy. You’re just going to make it worse. ; )

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      • I’ll never look at men the same again. I feel like I have been let in on a dirty little secret of theirs. LOL In the grocery store, cell phone store, computer store, restaurant. All i’m going to be thinking is – i wonder if he is horny right now? LOL

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      • “All i’m going to be thinking is – i wonder if he is horny right now?”

        Try to pick out who he wants to bend over a counter and fuck.

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      • I don’t think i want to know. But the point is I will look at every man now with pity and sorrow. LOL

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      • Hahahahaha

        And they say you have no sense of humor!

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    • You get horny *before* your period? That’s odd – considering that your body is in PMS-mode. I get a little bit horny during my period but it’s nothing compared to what I feel when I’m ovulating. I get super super out-of-this-world horny 7 days *after* my period because I’m then ovulating.

      I wish I could switch bodies with a man for one day, just to experience that constant need to release that they have. I wonder…hmmm?

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      • Yeah get horny during my period and a bit before (i can tell when its coming b/c i start getting urges) and also during ovulation (which is usually afterwards). Its actually normal if you think about it since that is the peak reproductive time for a woman. But like you said, can’t imagine feeling that way for days on end 24/7 lol.

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      • “Yeah get horny during my period and a bit before (i can tell when its coming b/c i start getting urges) and also during ovulation (which is usually afterwards).”

        And what happens when you have a hysterectomy and no longer have a period/ovulate?
        Do you think those urges will still be there since the biological reasons for them isn’t?

        I was snipped in ’95 & it only slowed me down long enough to heal.

        Ex had a hysterectomy in ’98 & it slowed her way down. And as has been said before on this blog, “when the sex goes, so goes the marriage”.

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      • Who says i would get a hysterectomy? According to my 81 year old grandmother, she says you still get urges. PLus my grandfather is 88 and she told me he still tries to get it. LOL

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    • some women are very horny when they are pregnant, i couldn’t kept it out of her mouth.

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  8. The biggest difference I remember when I was younger is how much more willing guys were to go out of their way for sex than I was. If I had to go over to their place I often had an excuse: I was too tired, it was too late, it was too cold. They never made excuses.

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  9. Unless they were out with another girl.

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  10. Men can impregnate multiple women each day. Women can only be impregnated once every 9 months. Did anyone actually think mother evolution would just ignore this fact and give both sexes an equal sex drive?

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    • on August 4, 2011 at 4:12 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

      lzozolzzo why yes i did actually think mother evolution would just ignore this fact and give both sexes an equal sex drive. sorry! wowont hppen again! lzozllzz this is my mulliaganne laozlzlzlzz

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    • You know when you put it like that, it makes leftist, feminist, gender equalists seem kind of stupid. Carry on….

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  11. If the average woman had to live as a man for a week, she would have a nervous breakdown.

    It’s sad that blank slaters need a study to show them what is obvious to everyone else. They still won’t believe it.

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    • yeah i saw some research like that where women dressed as men for like a week, the prettier the woman, the more suicidal she felt as a man.

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  12. Interview with Jenny McCarthy about her raging sex drive. She does admit progesterone use created some of the issue. (thinking I need me some progesterone cream!)

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  13. “It’s sad that blank slaters need a study to show them what is obvious to everyone else.”

    We are living in an era of such absolute intellectual corruption that we need scientific studies to prove things that every living, adult human being knows for a fact from obvious, daily experience — and that everyone took as common knowledge and taught their sons and daughters as recently as 50 years ago.

    We are finally exiting a cave of maliciously inflicted ignorance. The truth will always emerge, eventually.

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  14. In any sentence about gender dynamics, substitute ‘women’ and ‘power’ where the sentence says ‘men’ and ‘sex’.

    E.g.

    “Did you know that women fantasize about power once every seven minutes?”

    Women think about power a lot. Who has it, who does not have it, who exercises it over whom, and how to get more of it. And, of course, how they sometimes desire to have a man who is orders of magnitude more powerful than she is.

    Chick TV and chick lit is basically ‘power porn’.

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  15. Apply it to the title of this post:

    Another Feminist Myth Debunked: Men’s Sex Drive Is Not As Strong As Women’s

    It is not really a dig on women, just acknowledging that male and female motivations are opposite sides of the same coin.

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  16. Correction to above post:

    “Men’s desire for power is not as strong as women’s”

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    • Having a dick (usually) makes them more secure and think about having something do with it instead.

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  17. on August 4, 2011 at 4:42 pm Good Luck Chuck

    Aaaaand in other news- Women reach their sexual peak at age 35.

    Details at 11.

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  18. “The sex drive refers to the strength of sexual motivation. Across many different studies and measures, men have been shown to have more frequent and more intense sexual desires than women, as reflected in spontaneous thoughts about sex, frequency and variety of sexual fantasies, desired frequency of intercourse, desired number of partners, masturbation, liking for various sexual practices, willingness to forego sex, initiating versus refusing sex, making sacrifices for sex, and other measures. ”

    Sorry brother, but this is just flat-out WRONG. Women have a HIGHER sex drive than men based on almost all of the criteria noted above. It’s ALSO a known fact that women (subconsciously) lie on these tests. It’s called the Anti Slut Defense and it is very real.

    The most common fantasy in Nancy Friday is MULTIPLE partners.

    Whereas a man having a traditional ejaculatory orgasm must rest for a while, women face no such limitations to multiple orgasms. A woman once aroused is essentially insatiable. This isn’t the case for men.

    You need to brush up on your “Sperm Wars” my brother. This post is way off the mark. Further it isn’t helpful because it implies that men need an overabundance of game to “win her over” or “convince” her to have sex. There are at least several women in any room who are horny all the time. A man who knows how to attract and escalate, and work that pussy once she’s in agreement, is going to have a hard time keeping up with female demands, even if he dates just one average-drive woman.

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    • It seems you must not have had sex with many women. Some women get exhausted after one brief orgasm, and can barely get aroused after that. They have a long refractory period. Others can come within 30 seconds of entry and keep coming regularly for about as long as you can fuck em.

      Women, as well as men, have widely varying libidos, and sexual responses.

      A lot of guys prefer to date a sweetheart low risk for infidelity girl for long term romance, but if you are a high libido man, pairing with a low infidelity risk girl might not be a good sexual match for you. Some guys barely have a refractory period, and are basically constantly aroused. You can imagine that a satisfactory sexual match is not going to be naturally tame.

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      • See any of the many amateur interracial porn to see how different some people are. The black guys in most of those videos go and go and the 40 something white women seem to cum nonstop.

        And it is possible for a man to have multiple orgasms, or to orgasm without ejaculating.

        Whether it’s healthy or not, whatever..I’m just saying it’s possible.

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    • “The most common fantasy in Nancy Friday is MULTIPLE partners.”

      ?

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    • Joseph, you have nailed it. This business about women being less sexual than men undermines the whole Game philosophy. It’s quite remarkable that few here see this. Great site by the way. Practical Female Psychology is a little remarked upon masterpiece.

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  19. Bravo! This is a brilliant post. The feminist assertion is just so obviously ridiculous.

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  20. I think sex drive for women can be much higher at certain times of the month, Sperm wars is a good scientifically backed book that supports this claim.

    It’s interesting how much PUA material pushes that “women want sex as badly as men” – think this is because many men need to positively reframe thier internal belief (often religously based) that sex is bad…

    On another note…

    I’d be interested to see how Women’s sexual drive varies across race and social borders. Is a Black chick from the Bronx, New York more driven to chase dick than an Asian Girl from Hanoi, Vietnam?

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    • Why would race have anything to do with it unless there are cultural reasons? Gender is gender

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      • Compare the average black dude in America to the average Vietnamese dude. You will find differences in height, weight, muscle strength, speed, etc.

        Same gender. Physical differences. Race has everything to do with that.

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      • First off I my personal views on race are its a social construct more than it is a valid biological difference. The diff between a Black and Vietnamese man has more to do with environment and diet among other things. Put a vietnamese population in an environemtn where their diets have changed dramatically you would start seeing a difference in their physical (body) make up. Not simply race. But that’s a whole other topic in and of itself. But gender is gender. A slutty woman is a slutty woman regardless of her race. The only difference would be cultural norms and values within her community that would either cause more chasteness or looseness.

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      • “Put a vietnamese population in an environemtn where their diets have changed dramatically you would start seeing a difference in their physical (body) make up.”

        /eyeroll.

        Fine. Go look at the research comparing Asian-Americans generally, or even Vietnamese-Americans, to African-Americans populations. Their diets should be, for our purposes, equivalent enough for purposes of ethnic group comparison. Although the research on such physical performance metrics is often kept quiet, you will typically find it says that African-Americans are taller, stronger, faster, etc. on average tha Asian-Americans. You will still find bell curve distributions within populations, of course, and the resulting overlaps are there. (I.e., there are plenty of fast, tall, strong Asian-Americans who fall to the right of many African-Americans.) But the curve for African-Americans in those areas of physical traits will be shifted rightward, relative to Asian-Americans.

        Researchers in the area of physical performance don’t really argue much about that, they just don’t tell folks about it, because it makes people get all nuts about alleging racism. It is not racism to note those differences exist in populations, but the researchers really don’t want to deal with loons who don’t understand bell curve distributions and relatively benign inquiries into ethnic group physical traits relative to other groups.

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      • Actually, its been reported that White males and Black males have same physical structures than any other groups. I simply believe that its environmental / dietary factors that cause physical make up.

        many people also forget to take into account when addressing physical strength, speed of AA males – SLAVERY. AA’s were BRED to create physical strength for the sole purpose of slavery. This means they were fed certain diets and the environmental factors of working out in fields and lifting and building eventually developed speed and strength for AA males. This also plays a big factor on why AA men in general have different physical traits on average compared to Asian males. If Asian males were also enslaved here in America, they too would have the same physical make p as AA males.

        IMO in America the gap is leveling out between all races of men. You see White, Black, Asian males who can physically build the same kind of muscle, who physically can be of higher average heights etc. If you look at American sports that require speed and strength, you mainly see White & Black males. That is b/c for the longest Whites and Blacks made up the majority in this country (although Indians were not integrated at the same level as Blacks). Now that America has integrated many other groups, I have no doubts eventually these groups will also develop the same physical strength & body types that we see on average with both Black and White males. Its happening already. I am noticing more taller Asian males and more Asian males with bigger genetalia ( the American born and bred ones that is)

        Also, as Asians generally are small, the more Americanized ones are looking fatter on average than their Asian counterparts overseas. So yes I believe diet and environment play a bigger role in physical differences amongst the human species. I am not saying I’m right I am just saying its my view.

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      • neecy please read fredrick douglass’s autobiography, the children slaves were fed very poorly.

        Also alot of the slaves were bred with their owners, which may be why they have similar physical structures with whites.

        do African men have similar structures to European men? i doubt it!

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      • “I am not saying I’m right I am just saying its my view.”

        i.e., faith.

        I am not dressed for church.

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      • PB,

        Uhm ok.

        NOT SURE,

        Yes I believe that is why WHites and Blacks today may have similar structres. But I do remember reading soemthing a while back that said this was the case since beginning of time. Not sure.. i guess it doesn’t matter now.

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  21. Why is it necessary to cite scientific “tests” that confirm the obvious? It’s as if you think science were a factor in feminist thinking that could dissuade them from their ideology by an article or eight in Scientific American.

    Take a look at Aristotle’s physics. They’re laughably speculative and almost mystical compared to modern physics. But, while they are inadequate in getting a man to the moon, they are perfectly functional in 95% of all human affairs. Aristotle didn’t have microscopes or lasers, but he had a keen observation of cause and effect that everyone could relate to.

    Once science was divided by specialization it became detached from everyday experience and acquired a reliance on faith: the speed of light is thus and so because, we’ve been told, a scientist measured it in 1676. The same with the study you cite above: men have greater sex drives because Kathleen R. Catanese of Case Western tells us so. That’s not adequate to the task.

    Because what passes for “science” is actually false induction, it is much more powerful to ground your conclusions in the deduction of observed experience: we can have confidence that men have greater sex drives because the vast experience of the vast majority of observers in history has organized itself into cultural conventions that latter-day ideologues seek to overturn by declaration. It was modern science itself that empowered the feminist ideologues to start saying black is white with a straight face, and then visit violence on those who laughed at their audacious gimmick. “The truth is the truth because I posit it so.” We remain anonymous for a reason.

    All behavioral studies are non-falsifiable deductions masquerading as inarguable induction. When another selective and ideologically driven “experiment” comes out with different conclusions, the legs will be cut out from under your thesis. Your declarations are grounded in the speculation of others (with credentials taken on faith) rather than the firmer ground of common wisdom, which is all you need.

    It may sound suspiciously simple to say men like breasts because breasts are beautiful, rather than investigating the “scientific” foundations of our attraction to beauty. But sometimes simplicity is the stronger refuge, like a squat concrete bunker in a hurricane rather than the precarious heights of a crystal cathedral. It’s especially stronger because what you call “science” is actually behavioral speculation rooted in the still deeper speculations of mid-20th century Marxist analytic philosophers like Merleau-Ponty and positivists like Auguste Comte.

    Your revolutionary energies are wasted on unnecessary battles already fought and won by others before you. The authority of your advice should rely on your obvious experience in the arena — and the poetically rendered experience of others who in history who have been where you have been. Not only are such sources truer (if less quantitatively precise), but your audience will relate more readily to them.

    You and your idolaters should know you are building your project on a fatal flaw that apparently you have little interest in exploring or correcting. I’m telling you, the bridge is out ahead, so slow this locomotive down for a second. You’re carrying precious cargo — something most of the world has given up as impossible to attain: the truth.

    /dick joke

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    • “saying black is white with a straight face”

      Very nice metaphor. I’ll use it next time when talking to feminists, because that’s exactly what they are doing. Lying to themselves.

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    • *applause*

      Tremendous.

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    • I didn’t understand like half the words, awesomeface.jpg

      Still the general point is correct, especially when the “science” we’re dealing with here is nothing but GSS and other statistical experiments. I believe I’ve commented before asking the author to share his own experiences when making such statements.

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  22. “… and can do so without suffering any of the trite emotional consequences which they have convinced themselves are nothing but a manufactured burden foisted on them by the patriarchy.”

    Yes, (feminist) girls really say such things. I’m wondering what to say back when I’ll have to listen to this next time.

    Good post, btw. I’m glued to this blog.

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    • Maya,

      There’s not much you can say back. Feminists believe their garbage with the same zeal as fundamentalist Christians/Muslims and are just as likely to engage in actual debate. You can show them crystal clear proof and they will still deny it.

      Don’t say anything. In the words of the WOPR (War Games, ca. 1983), “The only winning move is not to play”. Remove yourself from that circle of people and start interacting with some intelligent women instead.

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      • It’s funny because it was me who believed in Feminism as strong as I believe in ultra-conservative morals now. From one extreme to another.
        A few months ago I had a strong feeling how narrow-minded everyone is and how I can’t stand everyone being so dirty, old-fashioned and against basic human rights.
        Now it’s just the opposite – I read what the Norwegian mass-killer believes and frightened I realize that I agree with him … Not to mention about my lectures everyone has to listen to, accusing my friends and family members that they are sluts etc. I think I’ve lost two friends already. They can show me proofs crystal clear and all I can conclude from what they say is that they are deluded, childish and naive. Strange. I can’t even open a newspaper because it’s all leftist here and it only makes me feel how uninformed the journalists are.
        It’s funny how I always used to be so into gay marriage and adoptions that I’d get a heart attack if anyone said anything against gay people. Now I rather shut up with what I really think about that.
        Hope it’s possible to have more ‘normal’ political views and that it won’t take me too long to come to that point.

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      • “I can’t even open a newspaper because it’s all leftist here and it only makes me feel how uninformed the journalists are.”

        They are not uninformed. They simply have an agenda.

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      • Maya,

        Those aren’t questions that can be answered by other people, especially not on a blog about picking up women.

        What I’d suggest to you would be to throw out most of what you believe right now (if you were a Feminist until a few months ago, I’m inclined to think that the “ultra-conservative morals” are simply over-correction) and start from scratch. Read everything you can, think about what you actually believe and go from there.

        Most people don’t think about what they believe. Most people blindly follow whatever ideology they learned when they were younger and seldom question it. If you’re starting to question what you believe to be correct, then take it to its conclusion. It is not a bad thing to clearly define what you stand by. I have more respect for people that arrive at a conclusion I disagree with that they thought about and considered than for people that just accept whatever they are given as truth.

        Basic human rights for everyone is a good thing. Gays having equal rights is a good thing. The danger comes when certain groups of people are “more equal” than others, which is where we are now.

        Adoption is a wonderful kindness, as long as it’s voluntary and I’m not forced to do it rather than have my own children. This issue is one of the first that made me start questioning the left. The left says the planet is over-crowded and so we should start having abortions and not having children. The traditional ways say that we can have children and that they are welcome here.

        I don’t know where you live. (I’m going to guess somewhere in Europe?) But if you’ve found this blog, then you can find other sources of news that aren’t so biased. I read my local paper for local news and the Internet for everything else. Bear in mind that biased news isn’t just a problem of the left though. See Fox News in the US for an example of the right’s contribution to that.

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      • A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices. —
        William James

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      • Go ahead and speak your mind. Eventually you’ll find there are a lot of people who agree with you. They’re just too chicken shit to say it first.

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  23. I think even grass huts come from male ingenuity. Female grade ingenuity is more at the grass skirt level – and they were probably taught how to weave from discoveries made by male builders (as a ruse to get women making clothes and leave the construction business to the men – at least there’s no danger if anything falling on your head then).

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    • nah….women invented weaving. they were responsible for making clothes. what man would lower himself to perform such an nonprestigious smv-detracting task? same for the development and discovering of horticulture/agriculture. they were the gatherers in the hunter/gatherer division of labor.

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      • The species evolves through the males. Even if women were traditionally gatherers that does not equal agriculture. The first human to bury a seed/bulb knowing it was going to grow and having a developed enough memory to remember the location was almost certainly a male.

        Picking berries off a bush-women

        Agricultural revolution-men

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      • even if your premise of evolution being driven thru males is correct, it doesn’t change the fact that at any one time, say at the beginning of the neolithic revolution (agriculture, animal husbandry) men and women were more or less equally intelligent. women gatherers would certainly observe the cause/effect and come to a few conclusions to benefit the group as a whole.

        even now in some primitive societies the women are responsible for farming and any improvements in carrying out their task likely originates with them. men disdain such ‘woman’s work’ and so won’t gain enough familiarity to come up with better techniques.

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      • I moved to a remote coastal area 10 years ago – the nearest store is 30 minutes drive away. The soil is poor, never been used for cropping before, and the land is steep. No-one here kept a garden or grew their own fruit and vegetables. I terraced my ground, trucked in soil, made my own compost, established which breeds would thrive and which to not bother with, and planted fruit trees. I got a lot of comments and bad advice – which I ignored – from passers-by out walking. Now that I’ve shown it can be done, a way of doing it that works and that looks originally attractive in its maturity, many of the local women are doing exactly the same. Not the men, the women.

        Not only are the other gardeners here all women, they are all doing their gardens much like each other, with a few minor variations – just like mine, in other words.

        Dollars to doughnuts that if a women’s studies thesis on home gardening was carried out in my district, it would be remarked that it is a women’s initiative, that my influence (as a man) would be read as an insignificant aberration, and that once again women show men up with their industry.

        That’s the heart of the feminist technique – hijack the narrative. Not buying it this time either.

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      • in your own words, PRIMITIVE societies. societies where men advanced the agriculture are more developed, naturally. Just because it’s probably a higher status or caste to be a warrior or priest/politician class it doesn’t mean anything, if anything it shows what they value and that they clearly believe they are advanced enough agriculturally, because the women haven’t led them out of the jungle. A better question would be how would they expand their population 5 fold, feed all of them, develop science and education, technology etc? Well that would take a lot of their males and their sons getting involved in agriculture.

        If anything thats evidence that women are incapable of developing or discovering anything.

        If the men in those tribes turn their nose up at farming it’s kind of indicative of why they are still primative tribes. Farmer is basically occupation number 1, for a lot of human history you weren’t anything if you weren’t a farmer/land owner/livestock owner. Then when a stable efficient food base is developed, labour can be diverted to advancement in other areas. thats the begginings of an economy right there.

        Agriculture is masculine to the extreme. And what seems like second nature now was not at one time. And would have taken quite some initiative.

        live and die discoveries like agriculture and fire will have shaped our genetics a lot.

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  24. By a number of obvious measures, for example jumping into the sack, women’s sex drive is lower.

    On the other hand, if it is lower than men’s, how did the species continue back in days when pregancy was probable, childbirth dangerous and extremly painful?

    Back in those days patriarchs had no problem getting their women to bear children, their problem was the propensity of their daughters to jump into the sack with wildly unsuitable men at the age of fourteen.

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    • On the other hand, if it is lower than men’s, how did the species continue back in days when pregancy was probable, childbirth dangerous and extremly painful?

      a receptacle is still a receptacle even when it is not receptive.

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    • “their problem was the propensity of their daughters to jump into the sack with wildly unsuitable men at the age of fourteen”

      This was non-consensual sex. These girls were raped. Nobody asked them whether they like a man or not.

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      • may i please borrow your time machine?

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      • Okay, I made it up. But that’s what’s most likely. Do you really think 14 y.o. girls want to have sex?!

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      • Humans had shorter lifespans back in the day, also, we were more susceptible to more diseases. Hence, early wedlock and childbearing. When a female starts to menstruate, she is ready to breed from a purely biological standpoint. Children were also labor on the farm. As far as men not making clothes, tell that to the guy who skinned his kill to keep his balls from freezing off. Most likely he also skinned one for the girl in the cave next door so he could get laid. These traits are ingrained in us so deep that we don’t think about them regularly. You can’t legislate away hundreds of thousands of years of evolution. people like to eat and fuck, most activities are centered around achieving these ends.

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  25. Even if women had the same sex drive, its still relationship sex. The viscosity of relationship creation and maintenance cannot multiply at the geometric expansion rate of what ever a man can shake his stick at. The light and the mood is always right. The actual intensity of the pleasure is not the issue, but rather the limits on its opportunity. Its sort of like 10 hamburger patties against a single steak. Truth be told, I am relatively certain that at the time of sex, it is frequently the woman that enjoys it more. They are far more out of their minds leading up to and during orgasm in my experience. I have also noted they forget this. I have heard the same thing from other men that they will say in the after glow they forgot that its this good.

    Either way a man will always want to have sex more often because the circumstances are always right.

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    • “They are far more out of their minds leading up to and during orgasm in my experience.”

      LOL

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      • Got those too but a little after…kind of like sobering up with a lamp shade still on the head.

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      • haha! I can only imagine what you poor fellows must be thinking when watching a woman with an orgasm have an out of body experience. The best thing for you to do at that juncture is just step.away.from.the.body. Expeditiously please….

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      • The best thing to do is to stop just short and tell her you’d like to catch up on a little sleep. Then when she does not express that this is a good idea while she is writhing around in desperation, you “try” to remember where you were and that you may need to start from the beginning.

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      • See that’s just *asking* to be murdered. That’s okay when you put it back in she’ll be sure to clench her vaginal muscles very hard so you can’t get away till she’s done.

        *This has been a pulic service announcement by Neecy. Consider yourself warned….*

        lol

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    • There have been studies done that show women have far stronger and longer orgasms than men. Must be mother natures way of balancing things out a bit. We get the steak and you all get the patties. Woman may or may not forget, not sure. What I do know is that it can be a lot more work for a woman to reach that orgasm. Sometimes she just may figure that it is not worth it (especially when the drive is low).

      Also, I thought this whole sex drive thing was common knowledge? Just the fact that men have something like ten times the T as the average woman should be enough evidence.

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      • Why do women even bother reaching orgasm? Chasing an orgasm sounds like masturbation to me. My friends say they need half an hour for the orgasm, but with masturbation you have it in one minute. I’m wondering sometimes if it’s worth to have sex with a guy who’s not alpha enough to make me reach orgasm in one minute? I don’t want to have a guy who will be worse than masturbation …

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      • Because having an orgasm by the man you love is about 20 more powerful than one with masturbation. Also, the foreplay is wonderful. None of that with masturbation. Sometimes the difficulty comes from worrying about my husband and wanting him to have a good time, as well. It breaks concentration. But when I can forget all of that (mostly because I know he is enjoying himself)? Utterly amazing and not even close to masturbation.

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      • Oh, it sounds logical. Hope I’ll find a husband, too.

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      • Don’t give up, Maya. Find a good man and take care of him and let him take care of you. It’s a great life when we aren’t afraid to do what we are meant to.

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      • Sting – my wife’s experiences are the same as yours. She likens masturbation to “an unsatisfying lightning bolt, there and gone”, where the real thing provokes an all-body experience for minutes. (If I overlap them, indefinitely…) I have to agree with her. Masturbation can “take the edge off” but that’s all it’s really good for.

        Maya – 30 minutes minimum? Your friends either don’t know their own bodies very well, have bad lovers, or not enough trust. Or all three. Two-minute quickies are definitely possible.

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      • If it takes the girl 30 to come, I am liable to get bored much before that. Good indicator that she’s doing fuck all (pun intended)

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      • I don’t know exactly, but they are always complaining about it. I think the real reason is that they are under 26 so they don’t have their biological clocks forcing them into sex so much. What I hear, I’d say that two-minute quickies are more something that happens to older women.
        They also don’t have enough trust – you know how it is today – a man can wake up one day and realizes that he doesn’t love you anymore …

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      • “Maya – 30 minutes minimum? Your friends either don’t know their own bodies very well, have bad lovers, or not enough trust. Or all three. Two-minute quickies are definitely possible”

        Hell, I’d get lockjaw if it took 30 minutes.
        Or it’s performance anxiety. They have to learn to relax. Once they relax, they can. And a lot quicker than 30 minutes. Then they can work on learning to squirt.

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      • Rick: relaxation = trust. Working on the squirting, God bless the internet.

        Maya: My wife was hell of a lot younger than 26 when we met, 18. Bio-clock or age has nothing to do with quick O. Like I said, it’s trust + ability. If your friends can’t relax because they think guys are going to bolt, tell them to look in the mirror – they’re 50% of the problem. Trust is a two-way street. Can’t just give it, you also must earn it.

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      • @Maya:
        “– a man can wake up one day and realizes that he doesn’t love you anymore …”

        That’s definitely a two way street.

        And, seeing how women initiate divorce more than men, (covered in previous posts), it would appear that women wake up & realize that they no longer love the guy more frequently.

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      • masturbation=second class fun

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      • I agree Sting. Where the heck is all this confusion about male sex drives vs. women? Its not rocket science that men have ALWAYS had higher libidos than women. I mean its like we’re moving backwards in knowledge.

        Re orgasms. i also agree. I think for women its much stronger b/c they are not easy to come by. males release almost always during sex. For women its not that easy. So when it happens – oh boy watch out! LOL

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    • yeah, i’ve never believed that orgasms are more intense for men than women. women have it best: not driven by desperation to make imprudent choices but free to enjoy as much when they do decide to sleep with a guy.

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  26. A womans desire to be fucked is hugely dependent on the answer to the question, “By whom”?
    For guys…
    When I was a teenager I used to sprout painful, throbbing boners whenever certain cloud formations began to vaguely resemble a womans breasts.

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    • You needed a tits cloud formation? It was entirely spontaneous without any apparent stimulus in my case, half the time. Was driving me bonkers.

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      • Oh lord don’t make me think of my teen years. When the boners first started, for some reason, I only jerked off to unattractive, old, and sometimes fat women, mostly teachers I had.

        I had to work myself up to jerking off to hot girls I went to school with. It was a very strange few months there in the beginning.

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      • I just needed a the wind to blow.

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    • Bwahaha too funny. Dude, remember school? Oh man embarrassing at first. But then when some girls smiled at me and paid more attention to me I didn’t give a fuck who saw me with a hard on. It paid dividends sometimes.

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  27. People just can’t fathom the idea that there are more women desirable in the eyes of most men than men desirable in the eyes of most women, and that all of their misunderstandings about the relationship between men and women are rooted in this inability to see the truth.

    “I do whatever she wants why doesn’t she love me?”

    You love her because of how she makes you feel. Why wouldn’t she want the same thing? She needs to feel it first, idiots.

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    • “She needs to feel it first, idiots.”

      And THAT is why women are not equal to men, ie., then entire point of this
      “Women’s Sex Drive Is Not As Strong As Men’s”.

      Women need a reason.
      Men need a location.

      Write that down & tape it to the refrigerator.

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  28. “it would silence the tankgrrl and slutwalker battle cry that they love to slut it up just as much as men, and can do so without suffering any of the trite emotional consequences which they have convinced themselves are nothing but a manufactured burden foisted on them by the patriarchy.”

    Women need a reason.
    Men just need a location.

    Stereotypes don’t just happen.

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  29. I naturally get super super super horny when I’m ovulating. The rest of the time it takes a super hot guy that ignores the hell outta of me to get me fired up. Those few ovulating days are HELL if I have no hot guy around that can take care of my body’s needs. I couldn’t imagine feeling as horny as I do when I’m ovulating X100 on a 24/7 basis. Wow! You guys have it just as rough as us women.

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    • I just want to be clear- great looking guys who ignore you.. are the number one thing that makes you horny?

      Whatever mechanism this is in women’s minds is poorly understood. By PUAs. By Men. By society.

      Game really is just treating the symptoms.

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    • Is it just me or does anyone else read this with a super thick southern drawl and visualize a woman in overalls with a piece of hay in her mouth.

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  30. on August 4, 2011 at 8:45 pm Rollo Tomassi

    One of the single most annoying tropes I read / hear from men (more so than women) is the “Women are just as / more sexual than men” canard. Nothing stops me in my tracks more abruptly than reading this line parroted back in some form by a self-effacing white knight. This is a VERY effective feminine social convention, even internalized and spouted back by the likes of more than a few infamous PUAs.

    Men produce 17 times the amount of testosterone a woman does. It is a biological impossibility for a woman to want sex as much as, or as often as men. Trust me, when a woman says, “I don’t understand why sex is so important to guys” she’s speaking the literal truth. No woman will ever experience 17 times the amount of her own testosterone levels (barring steroid use). Women’s sexual desire is cyclical. Even at the peak of her menstrual cycle, when she’s at her horniest, she’ll never experience what men do 24 hours a day.

    No self-interested Man is ever going to be encouraged to refute the idea that women are equally preoccupied with, equally aroused as, or equally desirous of sex as men are. We love the fantasy that women are secretly yearning for sex with us, if only society were more open and accepting of the secretly voracious feminine sexuality. Yet in the same breath we’ll hear about how slutty and aggressive women have become in western society by the same guys. It’s ironic, but it gives guys hope that if they can find the secret formula to unleashing the sexual beast within every woman he’ll find this insatiable she-devil to pair off with monogamously. If women were men’s sexual equals, why would they not be given to the same drives that conflict with monogamy?

    And women of course love to encourage and reinforce this social convention because it sounds like empowerment in the face of patriarchal sexual oppression (yes, we’d be more sexual if you’d only allow us to you evil men), while at the same time tacitly acknowledging that turns men into white knight sympathizers of the cause (i.e. feminine entitlement and primacy).

    [Heartiste: That video is hilarious. Warning: the scene at 3:55 will scorch your retinas with nightmare material for months.]

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    • God damn you Heartiste

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    • “It’s ironic, but it gives guys hope that if they can find the secret formula to unleashing the sexual beast within every woman he’ll find this insatiable she-devil to pair off with monogamously.”

      Kind of sounds like Game.

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    • Men produce 17 times the amount of testosterone a woman does. It is a biological impossibility for a woman to want sex as much as, or as often as men.”

      You’re assuming that testosterone is the only source of sexual arousal.

      “If women were men’s sexual equals, why would they not be given to the same drives that conflict with monogamy?”

      Are you kidding me?

      “We love the fantasy that women are secretly yearning for sex with
      us, if only society were more open and accepting of the secretly voracious feminine sexuality.”

      The truth is often stranger than fiction (or fantasy).

      “And women of course love to encourage and reinforce this social convention because it sounds like empowerment in the face of patriarchal sexual oppression (yes, we’d be more sexual if you’d only allow us to you evil men), while at the same time tacitly acknowledging that turns men into white knight sympathizers of the cause (i.e. feminine entitlement and primacy).”

      So untrue. Women prefer the “I’m a pure innocent little angel” social convention hands down. What do you think sexual harassment and date rape hysteria are all about? Women wanting to shag like the lads? It is matriarchy that is responsible for sexual repression. (Why would evil men who sexually objectify women stupidly turn around and discourage sexual activity from these same women thereby cutting-off their own supply of pussy?) Ask yourself; who has the most to gain from limiting the supply of sex? Contrary to your statement, white knights like to pose as defenders of female virtue against fiendish male satyrs. All of this error is truly amazing coming from a seasoned expert like yourself, Rollo.

      The problem I see with your analysis is that you take feminist rhetoric about free love all too seriously. (When will we ever learn to diregard what women say and pay attention to what they do?) Early fems may have talked about free love and the mean patriarchy that wouldn’t allow them pleasure, but they quickly resettled into the old game of feigning disinterest (Rape!) while snatching whatever opportunity for sex they could (ever hear of something called the cock carousel?) so long as appearances could be maintaned.

      “Feminine virtue is nothing but a convenient masculine invention.”
      -Ninon de Lenclos (It is a convenient feminine invention as well.)

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    • How many men got hard watching that video? The wet spots in the jeans? Come on you know you did. 😉

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    • :DDD

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    • I’ve known several women with enormous and insatiable sex drives. One girl would OFTEN have spontaneous orgasms. Nearly always in the checkout line of the grocery.

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    • That video is brilliant

      Gavin McInnes, who made it, writes for Taki’s magazine, of all things. Co founded Vice magazine. Wouldnt agree with 90% of what he says, especially about religion, (he’s against it) but a funny bastard
      nonetheless.

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  31. Right. Women get horny for a specific man at a specific time. That’s it. Women, at least me, aren’t generally horny.

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    • Seems even the Kinsey Institute knows that.

      http://channels.isp.netscape.com/men/package.jsp?name=fte/thinkaboutsex/thinkaboutsex&floc=wn-nx

      HOW Often Do Men Think About Sex?

      Men are “always” thinking about sex, according to researchers at the Kinsey Institute for Research in Sex, Gender and Reproduction at Indiana University.

      Think that’s a lot? It’s nothing if neuropsychiatrist Dr. Louann Brizendine, author of “The Female Brain,” is correct. She writes in her book that men think about sex every 52 seconds, while women tend to think of it just once a day.

      “There is no unisex brain,” Brizendine told Post reporter William Booth. “It follows these two brain models can produce quite different behaviors.” Blame it all on hormones. A man’s body is bathed in testosterone, which accounts for those sexy thoughts once every 52 seconds. A woman? “The female brain is so affected by hormones, they control her very perception
      of reality,” she explained. “Her values, her desires, what’s important to
      her, even whom she loves.”

      (But not about fucking)

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    • I agree Lara. But i do wonder if its mental or physical for women who sleep around a lot with random men. Are they much hornier than the average woman or do they have to psyche themselves up to sleep with a bunch of men.

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  32. “… and just about anything that is a grade above grass huts”

    Good to see a nod to Camille Paglia’s immortal bon mot.

    She had gotten death threats over it in the early 1990s. Her university office phone had an automated greeting which explained that packages addressed to her are opened by other staff members.

    The notion that men are the builders of civilization is uncontroversial now; at worst impolite to utter plainly. You can see how mere twenty years later feminism is a dead-man-walking ideology. Maybe other lie-based official narratives will soon follow suit.

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  33. No doubt that is another feminist hoax but really, why having to combat such an useful lie? It would be terrible if women suddenly realized how situational their horniness is and start clamping their knees shut in masse claiming sex to be a once in a lifetime event. As the myth remains uncontested it will be a nice ally in game: “oh, you’re not feeling like putting out? Not a problem, it’s an issue some women have but well, guess I’ll call you some day to have a coffee talk. Meanwhile, I’ll hang around with someone feeling like a normal girl”.

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    • Because the men in the republic of Gina think the women will chase them.

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      • Trust me, that can happen in PRC – I’ve had chicks randomly starting conversations with me and proceeding to invite me to their place in the course of 5 minutes. Can’t say they were hot, though, sadly. Maybe I should go there for more than 5 days, lol.

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      • Yes, unless you are really on the very bottom of the heap, you will be getting female attention by just existing, but its rarely the best you can do.

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  34. NPR Interview with a dyke that takes steroids. 2 minutes on is interesting.

    Previous was wrong link.

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  36. Girls horniness comes from a passive state, whereas a man’s is from an aggressive state… Natural biology 101. Game exists because you have to turn women on, get them horny, men are horny at the onset of a hot babe on his eye range. I don’t personally walk around like a teenager trying to conseal my in tillable hard on, but I will get horny more often than a woman from visual stimulation.
    Girls will be horny less frequently due to the fact that she usually needs some stimuli to awaken the kraken. Men are hunters, and sexually it’s the same.
    women who crave sex all the time love to be plundered and fantasize about it often. She’s comfortable knowing she wants to be taken. The feminist lie lays under the false assumption that this is the lie of the patriarchy and that women crave sex as much as men in the same way. They dont. Romance novels being porn is always portraying a girl relinquishing herself to an alpha male. Understand the difference and you will see that girls think of sex a lot. Just it’s not necessarily hormonal testosterone driven. It’s not the same, it’s not overwhelming until her buttons are pushed, but many girls fantasize about it often. Again it’s in a passive state. Thus you have game.
    They still don’t think of sex as often as us though, but they do think of it a lot, on average.

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  37. Horny? Is not only men specific. Music, nature, art, movies, lingerie anything that I can imagine and use my creativity can turn me [email protected][email protected]@[email protected]@@ It’s how you use your mind and whether you are creative. I am blessed with a flexible, creative, imaginative mind!!hahhaha!! It’s a curse and a blessing.

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  38. Of course, if you measure “sex drive” by male standards, you will always find that men “want sex more than women.”

    But, actual “sex drive” differs in men and women – they are complementary, but different. Sex is, first and foremost, about reproduction, and thus all of the things that women do in order to get babies is also “sex drive.”

    If we measured “sex drive” by the desire to have babies, then we could easily show that women have a much stronger sex drive than men. Hence the term “baby rabies” for women, but not for men. And, women will lie, cheat, and betray their own mother when they have the baby rabies, just like a man will when he wants to fornicate.

    Also, as per guys like Weininger, one has to keep in mind that while women are “the sex,” men are also sexual.

    Women’s sex drive is always on while men’s sex drive is either on 100% or not on at all. Women’s only game is sex and childrearing. They truly are not good at much else. But for a man, he can have many other endeavors or ideas going through his head, but when he thinks about sex, he thinks about it intensely.

    Most differences between males and females are like this.

    Men “spike” while women “rythym.”

    Just like how men are far better represented at both high and low IQ while women tend to cluster towards the mean. The same goes for good and evil. When a boy is bad, he is really bad and it is hard not to notice it – but when he is done being bad, he goes through long periods of not being “bad” at all, he just “is.” When a girl is bad, she is not as noticeably bad, she reigns it in a bit compared to the boy – but her “badness” generally lasts over a much longer period of time, however, it is on a lower frequency.

    Erogenous zones work in the same manner. Women have erogenous zones all over their bodies, and it is fair to say that a woman’s entire body is one large erogenous zone (thus, why kino works so well too!), but a man has fewer erogenous zones, but the ones that he does have are waaaayyyyy more intense.

    The amount of differences between males and females that work on this principle are astounding.

    But, to say that women have a lesser sex drive than men is a bit facetious.

    That women want to physically have the sex act less than men may be true, but conversely, if men think about the sex act “every fifteen seconds”, then it also relates that women spending hours putting on make-up and thinking about “acting sexy” every 15 seconds is also just as motivated by sex drive. They come to the “x” seconds thing, btw, by simply measuring that men think about sex for say, one hour total of every day, then dividing it by the awake hours of the day, and try to make it sound like men are out of control sex maniacs – but men are either fully thinking of sex, or they are not thinking of sex at all. Conversely, even if you take out how much time a woman spends each day to present herself as sexy (ie, dressing/make-up/hair), a woman is almost always thinking of being sexy.

    Male and Female: Equal but Different

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    • So as long as you define a non sexual thought by women as sex, then women think about sex more than men? Thinking about babies is not for most people a sexual thought.

      Placement of erogenous zones and putting on makeup are also not sexual thoughts. Thinking about being attractive mostly to other females and to gain status is not sex drive.

      Women have less sexual minds in general.

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      • So long as you define “sex drive” by male standards, yes, you will always find that men are more sex driven than females. Why wouldn’t you? Think about it for a second.

        It’s the same as Domestic Violence. If all you are going to do is measure domestic violence by when a man raises his voice and swears, or gasp, actually strikes a woman, then you will constantly find that men are the major perpetrators of domestic violence.

        However, if you measured Domestic Violence via “Social Aggression” or “relational aggression”, which is stereotypically a female form of aggression… whereby she, for months on end, will nag, bitch, and humiliate while trying to ostracize a man from family and friends… until he explodes (which is what she wanted all along)… well… if we measured domestic violence by the aggression that is stereotypical of females, then we might find that domestic violence rates between men and women are not as far different as we once thought, eh?

        For someone reading up on game, I thought you guys would have realized by now that men and women not only think differently, but also act differently because of those thoughts.

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      • Fedrz,

        The arguments made here by Rollo, Heartiste and others, can, with some slight caricature for the sake of illumination, be boiled down to this type of reasoning: When men are horny their dicks get hard, women don’t have dicks, therefore women don’t get horny.

        Stupid. Real stupid.

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      • I don’t see what’s so “stupid, real stupid” about it.

        Read from the article which Namae Nanka linked to:

        “‘Really, women’s desire is not relational, it’s narcissistic’ — it is dominated by the yearnings of ‘self-love,’ by the wish to be the object of erotic admiration and sexual need. Still on the subject of narcissism, she talked about research indicating that, in comparison with men, women’s erotic fantasies center less on giving pleasure and more on getting it. ‘When it comes to desire,’ she added, ‘women may be far less relational than men.'”

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      • Fedrz,

        I’m on your side on this one.

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      • Reading comprehension problems?
        No one has said women don’t get horny. Wymen might not.
        Women do.
        But nowhere as often or as intense as men.
        The title of this blog post is:
        “Another Feminist Myth Debunked: Women’s Sex Drive Is Not As Strong As Men’s”

        What part of “Not As Strong As Men’s” is so hard to understand?

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      • Rick,

        I used exaggeration to try and highlight the flaw in the opposing argument. Guess it didn’t work.

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      • Ovid, sorry. Missed it. I apologize for the tone.

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      • Sex drive is the urge to seek out sex. Women report that they seek out sex less. Therefore they have less sex drive. No amount of erogenous zones, use of makeup or anything unrelated to sex drive will make them have a sex drive. They are radically different.

        Domestic abuse is normally only illegal if it involves violence and most people associate the word with violence, if we include emotional abuse sure.

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      • ”Sex drive is the urge to seek out sex.” — thesecond

        Well, there you go again, defining sex drive by male standards and not female standards.

        Sex drive is, more accurately, the drive to reproduce.

        You will always find that the male desire to copulate is stronger than the female’s – it is like this everywhere in nature, because males are the sexual servants of the female. The reason why males have a stronger urge to copulate is because when the female signals she is “ready”, the male must be able to instantly fertilize – so, everywhere in nature, the male is always at the ready to inseminate a receptive female. Where humans are different than most other living organisms, is that women have evolved to ovulate covertly so that males are able to be manipulated 100% of the time, whereas in other species, like moose or dogs or cats, the female signals openly that she is ready for breeding – and thus, the males of those species only go into a sexual frenzy when they smell that she is in heat. Human females keep males “at the ready” all of the time, because they manipulate men sexually to provide a living for them. You can read more about this here.

        But again, back to males “spiking” while females “rhythm,” think about it like this – females only have, say, 25% the intensity of a male’s sex drive, but it is at 25% for 100% of the time. Males, on the other hand, “spike” to 100% sexual intensity, but only for 25% of the time. Women are always sexual – they are always sort of “on.” But males are either on – intensely – or they are completely off.

        Also, as per women not having the same amount of sex drive as men… why then, do women lose their virginity, on average, at younger ages than men do? This has been going on for a loooong time now, as you can see from this piece by Mathieu of Boulogne, which was written over 700 years ago, and illustrates that even back then they knew of the strength of the female sex-drive. This is why young girls were married off at such an early age back then – because if they weren’t, they certainly wouldn’t have lasted too long before getting themselves pregnant and ruining themselves for the marriage market.

        As per the domestic abuse comments – again, all we are doing is defining “abuse” by the metric of males, while ignoring the stereotypical ways that women aggress. It should come as no surprise that when one only uses the metric of the ways that males aggress to measure aggression, that males will appear to be the aggressors. Most of our society does this today – we only tackle the overt things which males do, while completely ignoring the covert ways that females aggress. Society didn’t always used to be this way. The Scold’s Bridle used to be an effective way of dealing with aggressive and troublesome women – also, notice how they used such a thing for public shaming? That is punishment specifically tailored for women because women are so much of herd creatures, that shame is almost worse than any other punishment. A husband could bring his wife to the jailer and have “the brank” installed on her if she was aggressing in her “special female way.” What’s changed today is that we only pay attention to male aggression, and criminalize it, while completely ignoring that females aggress in different ways, but just as effectively.

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      • “Sex drive is, more accurately, the drive to reproduce.”

        I think you’re thinking of the reproductive drive, not the sex drive. You’re culling words and twisting their meaning to form some silly theory. The purpose of a theory is to convince others that your view of the world is correct and if you keep changing the meaning of words we’re going to think less about the theory and more about your use of words.

        But again, back to males “spiking” while females “rhythm,” think about it like this – females only have, say, 25% the intensity of a male’s sex drive, but it is at 25% for 100% of the time. Males, on the other hand, “spike” to 100% sexual intensity, but only for 25% of the time. Women are always sexual – they are always sort of “on.” But males are either on – intensely – or they are completely off.

        Actually it’s the opposite way around. Sorta. Men have a natural rhythm where we go up and down in horniness during the day, and women spike in horniness just before their period. As anyone who’s been with a girl will know. At one specific time of the month they spike. That’s when they’re most likely to have sex and lose their virginity.

        But, our baseline level is higher than their spike.

        “Also, as per women not having the same amount of sex drive as men… why then, do women lose their virginity, on average, at younger ages than men do?”

        Because old pedos with money like to sleep with young nubile women in arranged marriages.

        http://www.newstrategist.com/productdetails/Sex.SamplePgs.pdf

        But in western society men lose their virginity earlier due to freedom.

        “As per the domestic abuse comments – again, all we are doing is defining “abuse” by the metric of males, while ignoring the stereotypical ways that women aggress. “.

        No. If men did what women do to men, it would be defined as abuse. Physical and emotional abuse by women is not defined as spousal abuse because feminists don’t want it to be like that, not because of any difference in behaviour.

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      • on August 9, 2011 at 7:51 pm Anonymus Maximus

        “Sex drive is, more accurately, the drive to reproduce. ”

        This means that gay men, lesbian women, infertile couples, elderly, etc. have zero sex drive.

        You see what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass?

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      • http://www.sott.net/articles/show/175364-Sex-and-Relationships-Bonobo-Sex-and-Ladyboners-Is-Women-s-Desire-Really-that-Confusing-

        “Thinking about babies is not for most people a sexual thought.”

        But those nasty oppressors suck on women’s teats.

        “Women have less sexual minds in general.”

        or maybe it’s their predominant sexual minds that prevent them from attaining the same level that men do. Also, isn’t it kinda funny that once you free and empower women, birth rate goes down and sex for fun goes up. Or maybe it’s the other way round, sex for fun empowers women?
        Regardless, femininity and sexuality seem to go hand in hand.

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      • From Namae Nanka’s linked article:

        “‘Really, women’s desire is not relational, it’s narcissistic.’ — it’s dominated by the yearnings of ‘self-love,’ by the wish to be the object of erotic admiration and sexual need. Still, on the subject of narcissism, she talked about research indicating that, in comparison with men, women’s erotic fantasies center less on giving pleasure and more on getting it. ‘When it comes to desire,’ she added, ‘women may be far less relational than men.'”

        This is what I mean. Women are already “sex.” Everything about them is “sex.” They do not get sexual affirmation by getting boned by yet another thug, (she already has sex in spades) but rather by the amount of attention (desire) she can arouse in the men around her.

        Women get everything from men. Protection, food, baublesx etc. Men get things and give it to women they desire. It’s how women have lived since we first came out of caves. It’s how women survive – bu men’s sexual desire for them. A woman who cannot garner the attention of men is a woman who has limited survival ability.

        This is why chicks get off on going to a bar and dirty dancing with as many guys as they possibly can – but have absolutely no intention on actually going home and having sex with any of them. She gets affirmation of her worth by how many guys are tripping over themselves trying to get into her panties more than actually going home with one and screwing him. It’s why for women, they “notch their bedposts” not with how many men they have fucked, but rather, by how many men have fallen in love with them, and how many marriage proposals they have gotten and rejected.

        Think about how much time and effort women put into “being sexy.” It is positively freakin’ enormous. An hour a day in the bathroom showering, shampooing, shaving, and putting on make-up all to make them look as sexually alluring as possible. Hours a week scouring the mall looking for exactly “that outfit” which illuminates her body in “just that way.” Time at the hair-dressers, hours spent reading Cosmo on just how to attract “his” attention… the walk, the twirl of the hair, the flirtatious talks each day… they may not be directly trying to get themselves physically boned, but they are directly using their sexuality to get as much attention as they possibly can, nearly every waking second of every day. And it is all motivated by their sex drive.

        It’s why women go so freakin nuts when they are so ugly that men ignore them – thus spawning things like the feminist movement, where ugly chicks who have no sexual power over men, are ignored, so they make as much outrageous ruckus as possible to make sure that society is still paying attention to them.

        A woman who cannot capture the attention of men through her sexuality, is a woman who is greatly disadvantaged in survivability.

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    • on August 5, 2011 at 1:29 am the_alpha_male

      What a bunch of BS!!!

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      • Sure, argue with Weininger then.

        “Woman is only sexual, man is also sexual. Alike in time and space this difference may be traced in man, parts of his body susceptible to sexual excitement are small in number and strictly localised. In woman sexuality is diffused over the whole body, every contact on whatever part excites her sexually.”

        “He is conscious of it as of something which he possesses but which is not inseparate from the rest of his nature. He can view it objectively. With woman this is not the case; the sex element is part of her whole nature. Hence, it is not as with man, clearly recog-nisable in local manifestations, but subtly affects the whole life of the organism. For this reason the man is conscious of the sexual element within him as such, whereas the woman is unconscious of it as such. It is not for nothing that in common parlance woman is spoken of as ‘the sex.’ In this sexual differentiation of the whole life-nature of woman from man, deducible as it is from physiological andanatomical distinctions, lies the ground of those differentiations of function which culminate in the fact that while mankind in its intellectual moral and technical development is represented in the main by Man, Woman has continued to find her chief function in the direct procreation of the race.”

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    • Where did you graduate in women studies?

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      • I graduated from the Weininger School of Sexology, in 1903.

        You have heard of Weininger, haven’t you? You big alpha.

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      • And you think Weininger had the last word on sexology? He had a chip on his shoulder–he was a supporter of suffrage for women and felt the need to push the concept of “equality” into notion of sexuality to support the movement he considered “modern”.

        Why you yourself feel the need to defer to authority, rather than use your own cognition? You’d realize that the comparison is dubious.

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      • It’s really not that hard to understand. Men pursue and women attract. Therefore, if all we are going to do is measure “sex drive” by the male standard, we are always going to be able to show that males actively pursue sex more than females do. Duh.

        But, total up all that women do in order to attract the sexual attention of men, and you will see that female sex drive (the desire to be attractive) is just as strong in women as the desire to pursue sexual liasons is in men.

        Although, once again, if all you are going to do is again measure by the male standard and count “how many people you’ve screwed” you will again always be able to show the male sex-drive is stronger than the female’s. Men validate their sexual value by how many girls have permitted them to have sex with them – while a woman’s sexual value is actually lowered by how many guys have fucked her. Men count sexual conquests while women count how many guys want to fuck her – and her status increases by the amount of men, especially high status men, that she declines. Women count on their bedposts not how many guys they screwed (indeed, they try to downplay it) and rather count how many guys that have been smitten with them, how many guys have told her they love her, and how many marriage proposals she has gotten – the more proposals she declines, the higher her status. (And, if you measured male sex drive by these female metrics, you would easily show that women are more sex-minded than men, for what man gives a shit about how “sexy” he is?)

        It’s the same thing as when women go out to clubs to go dancing. She is not there to actually try and bring a man home with her, but rather, she is there to have her ego stroked and receive affirmation of her sexual worth by how many guys ask her to dance, how many free drinks she got, and how many guys tried to take her home. She doesn’t need to screw anyone to affirm her sexual value, because she has already affirmed her sexual value simply by knowing how many men found her attractive – indeed, turning down such men simply raises her status even higher.

        This is why buying women drinks is such a bad idea – you are better off to not buy her drinks and therefore show that she is not higher status than you. It is why “the alpha” remains “aloof”, because if he does so he is indicating that her attraction powers are not great enough to turn him into beta-like mush, and so she notches up her attraction powers by getting more and more sexual with the aloof alpha. It’s why you should follow the 2/3 rule, and only say “I love you” to a woman twice for every three times she says it to you. Once you turn into a mushy beta, she has conquered you with her “sexy powers” and will lose interest… and seek out higher status males to conquer.

        It is really absurd to say that women don’t go to great lengths to “be sexy,” and that this is not directly related to her sex-drive. Look at how much time women spend each day putting on make-up and choosing outfits, all designed to attract male sexual attention.

        Furthermore, “being sexy” is even more important for females than the actual sex act is for men. Throughout most of human history, if a woman couldn’t get male attention, she died. Men’s immediate survivability is not related to his ability to score chicks, but rather, upon his ability to manipulate the environment. Women’s survivability depends on her ability to manipulate males to willingly give her those resources. Her only game is manipulating men – thus, women are “always sexual” and referred to as “the sex.”

        Like I said, if all one is going to do is measure sex drive by the male standard of actively pursuing partners for the act of copulation, then of course you will always find men have a stronger sex-drive than women. But, if you were to measure women’s sex drive by how much time and effort they spend in order to capture male attention (by being “sexy”), then it comes more into focus that female sex drive is just as strong as men, but merely manifests itself in a different manner.

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      • The desire to be attractive isn’t part of the sex drive. As a sex drive is about thinking about having sex. Being attractive has multiple purposes, one of which is sex. Another major one is social status. Regardless of the purpose, it’s not sex drive. Just as doing push ups isn’t sex drive, even if the purpose is to get sex more.

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  39. The neg is now part of mainstream media’s dating advice. In a column written by a woman. Money shot:

    Flattery strategy #6: Playfully tease your date
    … you probably remember the scene when Matt Damon asks his date something like: “What makes you think I want a second date with you?” — then bursts out laughing. It turns out those childhood playground tormentors (“Ewww, you have cooties!”) were onto something. “Thinking someone is attracted to you is great, but our research also suggests that not being sure about it actually heightens the excitement,” … Hearing that kind of rejection can spike feelings of anxiety — then fill you with relief when you realize it was a gag.

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    • By the way, this guy looks exactly how I pictured classic-era commenter Gig, the wry Brazilian bachelor.

      No homo. I was trolling through Youtube for videos on playing this song and came upon this (best, incidentally) cover of the original.

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    • Flattery strategy #6:

      Women have to realize men think differently than they do. We have went over this a couple of posts back. Insincere flattery from a woman is a huge turn off.
      Women live for flattery & compliments. Men, not so much.
      And most of us know when someone is trying to run a line of bs on us.

      IOW, “don’t piss on my shoes & tell me it’s raining”.

      Especially if you want more than a pump & dump.

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  40. “If you like your smartphones and Netflix and just about anything that is a grade above grass huts, it’s a good thing they don’t, either.”

    Feminists don’t realize this? What am I thinking, of course they don’t.

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  41. Heartiste, got a question that I can’t answer very well. I have a choice between two women for LTR, which should I choose?

    Girl A:
    Pros
    * Poor
    * Loves me with all her heart (I make sure I bang her good every time.)
    * Has long hair
    * Wants to bear my kiddies and marry me
    * Pretty much wants me to decide her career path
    * Loves skirts, dresses and shorts (wears pants only to her sales clerk job)

    Cons
    * Tallish
    * Can be bossy
    * Has a well defined jaw
    * Has a belly that could do without

    Oddity
    * When around only me she’s melted butter in my hands, in front of her mom she’s pretty assertive

    Girl B:
    Pros
    * Short (high estrogen)
    * I kinda dissed her, but she still into me
    * Big boobs (high estrogen)
    * Has a sweet little voice
    * Small chin (high estrogen, low T)

    Cons
    * Hair isn’t as long as I’d like to be
    * Is sort of well off, doesn’t want to work for except certain pay ranges
    * Likes to travel and thinks it’s a normal part of life

    Have yet to bang B. Both girls are abroad, so getting to them isn’t easy 🙂 , making time a factor.

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    • Hair length? Seriously?

      Furthermore,
      * Is sort of well off, doesn’t want to work for except certain pay ranges
      * Likes to travel and thinks it’s a normal part of life
      both sound eminently reasonable to me. But I also average well in excess of 50K miles a year.

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    • why choose between them? they both are far away from you and presumably from each other. keep them as fuck buddies for when you travel, and have a proper ltr with someone local you can keep an eye on.

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  42. Women also tend to lose their sex drive much sooner then men. At 51 I am still as horny as when I was 17. My wife is still in her mid-30s and I can out fuck her no problem.

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    • Really? And all I keep hearing is how men’s libido gradually diminishes with age, meaning that a 51-year old with a libido of a 17-year old is pretty rare (unless you had a low one to begin with…)

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      • Ah cynicism, a well know tool of women and beta males.

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      • Aw, I didn’t mean to sound cynical, it really is something I keep hearing. But I’m glad it’s not so.

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      • My 17 year old libido was pretty low around 51 year olds.

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      • on August 5, 2011 at 1:21 pm Zone Defense

        “men’s libido gradually diminishes with age”

        I am 48. I heard this too. I am surprised to find that it is not only wrong but that the reverse is true. While a teenager gets an erection easier, the older guy is more easily distracted by women and has to have more and more self control just to function normally. I had no idea it would be like this. There is absolutely a biological basis to the dirty old man phenomenon.

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      • “There is absolutely a biological basis to the dirty old man phenomenon.”

        No shit.

        Its called, wait for it…

        Testosterone.

        And what the fuck is it about “dirty old men.” Old men like the same things young men like. Beautiful young women. Its not rocket science. Old women get angry about it, and boom feminism.

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      • My libido depends on my health. If I’m feeling fit, I can keep a few late teen early twenties girls satisfied. If I’m seriously chronically ill, the stamina suffers.

        I can’t see how it’s that unusual to be fit in your mid forties or fifties. If you can do weight training and aerobics, what would stop you from other exertions?

        I’ve had some years in my late thirties/early forties that were higher libido than mid twenties. It was fluctuations in general health to blame, plus simple cardiovascual training through regular olympic class fucking.

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  43. I remember the hoopla about how women lost all abandon at those chippendale events, “wow, they’re even hornier than dudes!”…but it was obviously just a group hysteria

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  44. Totally agree with this. It’s why I thank god I’m female.

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  45. Bring the movies,

    Great question. Obviously should make it clear to both that civil marriages is off the table. Both will want you more as a result.

    I would err towards rich girl for LTR. High T can be a real deal breaker.

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  46. on August 5, 2011 at 12:16 pm brightstormyday

    What happened to the comments section of this post? This is a nightmare. People need to stop baiting idiots who have nothing to contribute whatsoever. How on earth do people who incessantly spew drivel over and over and over get attention here? I’m serious, I think I just lost 10 IQ points from reading the comment section.

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  47. This girl told me she is sure sex is more intense & pleasurable for her than for any of the guys she’s been with (she admits to 5)…she says it’s exactly because it’s so intense that she doesn’t want to do it TOO often.

    She’s kind of a redneck chick, in a good way, and here’s her analogy: “For a guy, I think it’s like driving to the corner store, no big deal. For me, it’s like driving in a NASCAR race, and no matter how much you like driving, no one would want to do that every single day.”

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    • It’s like an addiction. The more you get, the more you want.

      “she says it’s exactly because it’s so intense that she doesn’t want to do it TOO often.”

      Then she is lying out of her ass.

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  48. “Sex drive” is a social one, from my observations. When a man “gets horny”, he doesn’t need to fuck a girl, he just needs to ejaculate. The hormonal drive for it makes absolutely no distinction if you’re fucking a girl, a toy or your hand, how the hell could it? You could say that the evolutionary goal of the hormonal drive is to encourage men to “spread” their seed, granted, but the result does not directly promote “sex” because masturbation will completely fulfill the physical need. How many men do you know are still craving for sex immediately after they ejaculate? “Aw damn, i came from jerking but that wasn’t sex, i still want MOAR”. As if.

    The pressure to have actual sex with people is an emotional and social one, for the hormonal drive is easily and reliably suppressed by anything that will cause an ejaculation. Your testosterone doesn’t know if you came in a slut or in a tissue. Every guy i’ve known is quenched after coming. If he wants to continue with a girl afterward, it’s mostly emotional drive, not hormonal.

    Not that this is a rebuttal to the post, because it’s clear that the hormonal drive in women is very much lower. The social and emotional drive is probably quite lower as well for various reasons.

    This is merely in response to certain bigots claiming they pity men for being horny as if sex was a necessary remedy. We’re not such attention whores as to thinking the only way to get rid of sex urges is to fuck somebody, which seems to be the mentality of alot of females. Naturally, we still crave sex for emotional and social reasons.

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    • I think you’re wrong. Nobody goes to a prostitute for social validation. They go because men actually need the physical affection. They need it so badly that they’ll even settle and pay for what amounts to an actress to go through the motions of it.

      In saying that men and women are equal in drive, people trivialize men’s needs to justify cruelty.

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  49. Whenever I peruse the comment section of this blog I always skip over the female comments and go straight to what the men have to say. I always have A-ha moments when I read a man’s comment, but learn absolutely nothing when I read a woman’s comment.

    The comment section of this blog has gone down. Once upon a time many great intelligent insightful men used to post here, but now it’s just Maya and Neecy. and Neecy and Maya.

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  50. xsplat wrote:

    “It seems you must not have had sex with many women. Some women get exhausted after one brief orgasm, and can barely get aroused after that. They have a long refractory period. Others can come within 30 seconds of entry and keep coming regularly for about as long as you can fuck em.

    Women, as well as men, have widely varying libidos, and sexual responses.

    A lot of guys prefer to date a sweetheart low risk for infidelity girl for long term romance, but if you are a high libido man, pairing with a low infidelity risk girl might not be a good sexual match for you. Some guys barely have a refractory period, and are basically constantly aroused. You can imagine that a satisfactory sexual match is not going to be naturally tame.”

    Any guy that has been with different women on a regular basis knows that xsplat called this one exactly right.

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  51. http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2011/08/04/this_is_why_im_fat/index.html

    Fat chick is acknowledging reality…another hamster bites the dust.

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    • Jesus, those comments are almost worse than some of the ones here. “Your body is beautiful, don’t hate yourself, its ok to be fat!”

      Fucking L – O – L

      Disgusting fat fucks.

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    • Except if you are 220 pounds, you are overweight at least 70 pounds in my book (and that is if you are close to 6 feet), not 55

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  52. Your M/w complex is blinding you to reality gentlemen. You’re pointing out lots of good evidence as to why women employ the SURVIVOR strategies that they do and you are missing her REPLICATION strategy 100%.

    Women will play all kinds of games including having you believe that they don’t enjoy sex as much or don’t think about it as often as you do, so you’ll parrot the line that men need to buy shit for women and give them gratuitous attention in vague hopes of women randomly “giving it up”.

    Xsplat, dude, yes some women have a long refractory period and some men have a short one. But the exception proves the rule.

    My own dick never lies. I’ve had it in the internal parts of over 120 women. I couldn’t give a flying fuck about what fat smelly feminists or ivory tower nerd academists want me to believe about the female sex drive.

    Two things can be said about female sex drive:

    1. Its on a very different cycle than a man’s is and revolves around her monthly cycle very much so

    2. It’s hypergamous.

    So while you’re sitting there having an academic debate with the poor wench, she’s constantly checking her phone to see when I am gonna call – or some thug who worked her pussy last time like no one before or since. Yeah yeah that’s right, all men are dogs! Can you help me with my rent? Lol.

    Romance novel (female porn) and vibrator sales outstrip porn sales by a large margin. Fact. And you really believe that men on average have a higher sex drive than women? Really?

    Go fuck 100 women and sustain multiple sexual relationships concurrently then come quote your fag beta scientists to me, mmkay?

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  53. on August 5, 2011 at 6:38 pm the_alpha_male

    Female to Male Transsexuals who take Testosterone say their sex drive increases dramatically.

    Case solved.

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  54. The more I read about female sexuality on this blog, the more I’m thankful that I’m gay — and that I can have all the depraved, consequence-free sex I want without any emotional manipulation whatsoever, merely with an invitation. I’m reminded of Stephen Fry’s recent comment, that he ‘feels sorry’ for straight dudes. Feminists went nuts, but he’s right. Hell, I’ve met straight dudes that were so desperate to get off that they decided to meet another guy rather than coax pleasureless sex out of some soul-sucking harpy.

    [Heartiste: You point up the advantages of being gay, but what about the disadvantages? As far as I can tell from the gay men I know (through girls, wiseguys) and from what I observe, an ugly gay man is going to be locked out of sexual and romantic pleasure. The gay man is as fixated on beauty as is the straight man. And old queens have it really rough, which may explain the high gay suicide rate.]

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  55. There is a first-rate blogger out there called “Maggie Mcneill- The Honest Courtesan”. I will say – on the record – that her whole story and sctitk sound absolutely real and honest to me and so I recommend a visit..
    Her story is that she was a high end escort and Madam until her 40s – when she cashed in her chips and began to take seriously the moral imperative to give useful advice to the young.
    Especially when the young are fucking deep in need of good advice.

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  56. A Psycho-Bitch from Hell— who drank down endless waves of total body orgasms brought on by means of just diddling her ear lobes….righteously
    Before I got away alive from that raging horror,, the police had to be involved, nights were spent in psych-jail. serious guns were deployed. and I had to pay her pysch to help me get away. without mutilation.
    Damn RedHeads.

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  57. For Maya, about 14 year-old girls, I used to teach middle-school. I had a 14 year-old girl come up to my desk, lean over to show her budding cleavage, and whisper, “I bet you wish I was older, don’t you?” I have seen 7th grade girls throw themselves at popular boys. We had kids this age caught in the hallway having oral sex. We were told that the most likely time for a girl to lose her virginity is in the 8th grade. That’s when the sap starts to rise.

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  58. I forgot about the 6th grade girls we caught showing their barely existant breasts to truckers out the back window of a bus during a field trip.

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  59. […] “How to Deal with a Girl Gaming You“, “Beta of the Month“, “Another Feminist Myth Debunked: Women’s Sex Drive is Not as Strong as Men’s“, “The Mainstream Media is Beginning to Accept the Truth of […]

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  60. I can’t find it right now, but some Greek philosopher was asked, when he got older, did he regret the lost of his sex drive. His response:
    “I feel as one who has been freed from a cruel master.”

    I am not Greek, but I am getting old. I can certainly testify that a lessened sex drive is a Godsend. I still have sex, but I don’t miss one bit the obsession with getting laid. Life has other attractions.

    I think the “bizarre” sexual activity among some men who have sex with men (gays come in various types) has more to do with a sociopathic personality disorder. After all, you have to be mentally sick to knowingly give somebody a lethal disease, or to knowingly expose yourself to it.

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  61. Feminists love to claim that women’s sex drive is as strong as any man’s.

    Really?

    Most feminists claim that the sex drives are usually the same or just a bit less. It’s usually guys who claim that a woman’s sex drive is not as strong as a bs way to explain why men can’t be sluts with the whole high sex drive/need to spread seed biology.

    Feminists are constantly pushing that a woman’s sex drive is just as strong & that women should embrace their sexuality which most men take as feminists want women to act sexually like men aka sluts.

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    • Whoa it should be:
      Feminists love to claim that women’s sex drive is not as strong as any man’s.

      See the whiole feminists say not as strong is so unbelievable to their standpoint my fingers couldn’t even type it.

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  62. Check out these low libido gals:

    http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=39783

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  63. This doesn’t sound right. The measures they used to test women’s sexual appetite are misleading, because girls easily lie about that. I believe women have a far more intense sex drive than men do. In many ancient cultures this was assumed to be true. Read any ancient Greek book, the general assumption is that women are sexual crazies like Medea, who would kill their own children for a good fuck.

    I believe that modern women also have more sexual partners on average than men do. The sluttiest women are in New Zealand, with 20 average lifetime sex partners, as opposed to 15 for men.

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    • Unless I am missing something fundamental, average lifetime (hetero) sexual partners must be the same for women as for men

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  64. What does this practically prove? Women, in general, don’t have as high a sex drive as men, in general. What does that mean, practically? What does that mean to the game?

    Does that mean that an individual woman won’t have as high of a sex drive as an individual man? no

    Does that mean that it is more natural for a man to want casual sex than a woman? not really. It just means that a man may be more likely to want lots of casual sex with many more partners.

    If it’s proven that my friend likes 10 apples a day and I like 8 apples a day, is it a shocker and unnatural for me to be seen with an apple?

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  65. Mackinder, ive seen feminists mention that in many prior cultures women were believed to have the higher sex drive.

    And look more closely with whom the women were sleeping with…
    In the stories and mythology that feminists present as evidence. i note that the men that the highly sexed woman was sleeping with – were high status men, not ordinary men in status or bearing.

    Which is in line with the op. That women can be very sexual, IF the man is high status/ ‘rare’ man

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  66. LOL, that’s not rocket science. Women’s sex drive is as high as men’s during fertile days, but lesser for the rest of the month.

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  67. BTW, what feminists? There are many feminists who are very sex-negative (generally second wave), so it doesn’t look like you know too much about that topic, it rather seems like someone has problems…

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