Girls Asking Generalissimo Heartiste To Rate Their Looks

This commune of cosseted corporeal delights gets its fair share of female readers emailing the proprietors with requests (nay, more like demands) to rank them on a 1 to 10 beauty scale. Photos are included, along with promises that all info will be kept private (naturally). The proprietors abide the second request, but rarely the first, because it is quite obvious that what these women seek they already know, and are simply fishing for a little of the ol’ ultrastroking of their egos by the lead pack animal with fur of woven gold and claws stained with mortal triumph.

A recent example of the genre appeared in the Inbox of Consummation, and, as is usual in these cases, the woman in the photo is quite fetching, a solid 8. She too, asked for privacy, so I will not reveal any details here, except to say she is younger than lawyercunt age and was eager to leverage her looks for a family and babies before it was too late, evidencing a feeling of deadly urgency not often observed in women so young which she acquired, so she says, through reading this blog. She valued the opinion of the Rectory’s Grandmaster, and wished to know if a “lesser alpha” was within her purview.

Yes, you slinky pantherette, you can get a lesser alpha if you put your heart to it.

The overwhelming majority of these “rank me” emails feature women sitting comfortably above the 7 and above looks rating. I can only remember two who were otherwise; one girl was a 6 and the other was frolicking dangerously close to the soul-burning fires of a 4 or 5 rating. A lopsided number of them are 8s and higher.

Why would only good-looking women email for reassurances of their good looks? If women were really oblivious to their sexual market values, you’d expect to see a more even distribution from women at all points of the looks scale searching for unbiased third party opinions.

The premise is, of course, all wrong. Women are VERY AWARE of their SMVs, both absolute and relative, and that is why ugly women rarely ask for opinions on their looks: even the nicest niceboi would be hard-pressed to sufficiently conceal his discomfort at having to gently fib to a mastodon that she really looks like a Venus. And women are quite skilled at picking up subtexts and subcommunications and subsubmeanings within submeanings telegraphed through body language and quivering supplicating voice.

The same reason fugs avoid tempting the sizzling light of judgment is the reason hot babes welcome it: the latter love reminding themselves how hot they are by provoking reactions from men (betas) eager to feed their womanly need. Unless you are running an online presence and don’t go out of your way to meet such women IRL, you’d best follow the hallowed prescription to avoid giving attractive women the ego boosts they crave if you don’t want to be chucked into the boring manboob discount bin.

The other interesting angle to all this is the question of why, when the world is full of men with nearly universal tastes in women, do some hot women feel compelled to coax unnecessary flattery from an ASCII ghost? The answer to that, I leave as an exercise for the reader.





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  1. Answering the question “Why do women ______?” matters only to the extent that it improves my ability to predict their future behavior … and mold it.

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  2. Pics or GTFO.

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  3. I think they want you to email them back and ask them out. That’s the only reason I can think of for emailing a man my picture.

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  4. Yeah, and don’t forget no matter what these chicks look like, every one of them has photoshopped their pictures.

    Reminds me of that ol’ Hot-or-Not website. Most of the guy’s pictures were untouched, unless the guy were obviously gay or black.

    But every single girl’s photo had photoshop touch ups.

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  5. Beauty is self-conscious — more so than it ever was, these days.
    Female beauty most of all.

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    • Ironically, with modern society and feminism trying to do away with all feminine virtues, now is the time where women are MOST valued for solely their physical attributes.

      Beauty has always been THE virtue, but at least back in the day women could still hold value beyond their looks. As a good housemaker, mother, member of the church and community, or volunteer she was a valued member of society and had a place in the world.

      But now there’s no community, no children to mother, no volk to volunteer for (I’m not having a bake sale for minorities, fuck off) the church is full of beta Zionists, and we’re too busy at work to keep a nice house. Ergo, TITS or GTFO.

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  6. “The other interesting angle to all this is the question of why, when the world is full of men with nearly universal tastes in women, do some hot women feel compelled to coax unnecessary flattery from an ASCII ghost?”

    Same reason for attention-whoring from near-faceless ASCII ghosts via twitter, facefuck, okcupid, etc. etc. The only thing better than validation is MOAR validation.

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  7. “The other interesting angle to all this is the question of why, when the world is full of men with nearly universal tastes in women, do some hot women feel compelled to coax unnecessary flattery from an ASCII ghost? The answer to that, I leave as an exercise for the reader.”

    This one is easy.

    When the ASCII ghost is the the avatar of a true alpha, she is displaying herself to the alpha.

    She isn’t actually asking the alpha to judge her looks on 1-10 to validate that she’s hot. She knows she’s hot. What she is doing is displaying ‘hey mr.alpha, i’m available to you, want to somehow take this further? Balls in your court now. Tehe.”

    It’s basically her approach. Even in cyberspace, she might be doing this with her frontal cortex but the primal monkey brain is putting herself out there.

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    • WRONG. She asked, so she wants reassurance. She has the same problem as the 4 who knows she’s ugly….outside judgment defines her self worth.

      Sad story, for real though. Women know they are subject to the looks scale and it’s the only thing that ultimately matters. In time, all 10’s will drop off the radar.

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  8. … The other interesting angle to all this is the question of why, when the world is full of men with nearly universal tastes in women, do some hot women feel compelled to coax unnecessary flattery from an ASCII ghost? The answer to that, I leave as an exercise for the reader….

    because CH is the leader of the pack of alpha males that gather at this water hole, he is a sort of supreme alpha male ( at least in writing if not in person )

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    • H has said in the past that 60% of readers of this site are beta males, reflecting the general population.

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      • Even if 60% of men here are betas, on this blog CH is still the leader of the pack and can be perceived as the supreme alpha which could explain why women want his opinion

        they don’t want the opinion of ” lesser” men or “lesser” alphas ( real or perceived ), they want the opinion of the top dog

        I could be wrong…

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      • And the other 80% are liars.

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    • Sort of. It’s got nothing to do with the “pack” here, though. CH is supremely alpha in the sense that he is supremely unattainable – can you ever imagine a woman convincing him to put a $10K diamond on her finger? The hypothetical main attraction would be the challenge of bagging him.

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      • I am relatively new here so I am wondering if CH has ever published any photos of himself?

        Does anybody know if he is good looking ? Tall?

        Are those women trying to make him reply with a photo of himself out of curiosity?

        I have absolutely no idea what he looks like

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      • He appears to leave himself safely anonymous in the looks department.

        I don’t think any woman is trying to solicit a photo of him by sending him one of her. But honestly, average men, or average-but-overweight men, can do just fine with women if they have the right attitude. His would be like catnip. I can’t imagine what he’s like in bars.

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      • We are not even sure if he is one person or more … He probably is only one guy but must be somewhat hyperactive (how could anyone normal write a new, interesting blog post every day?). I’m sure he’s good looking because he said in some of the older posts that women were complimenting on his looks. Women only compliment guys who are very pretty … Like you, I also can’t imagine how does it look like when he is hitting on women in real life. It has to be fantastic. I’d LOVE to go out with him and see that because I’m sure he’s really good. Not like other PUAs. He could probably make any girl fall in love with him (in case he’s still young enough but from his posts I concluded that he’s still relatively young) and I’m quite disappointed that he’s still single.

        “I don’t think any woman is trying to solicit a photo of him by sending him one of her.”

        Yeah, I didn’t expect that he’ll send me a photo (although I secretly hoped that he will). I sent him mine just to ask him if I’m still pretty enough for love. What a stupid question …

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      • A tall looker needs ‘game’ about as much as a shark needs onion dip.

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  9. What an interesting observation. As a female who has considered sending a picture for a SMV rating myself, I would like to defend that not every submission is a fishing hook for compliments.
    Women tend to be very detail oriented in how we assess our own and other women’s appearances, while men take a more holistic approach to judging attractiveness. Women aren’t very adept at assigning a scaled 1-10 number to attractiveness because we pick apart every aspect of a person from hair, to teeth, to outfit, to posture, lip color, nail color, cuticle condition, etc, the list goes on.
    I think a lot of women, including myself, would just like to confirm that their attractiveness assessment of themselves is congruent with how men judge them. It also a way to see how deleterious our visible flaws are to our overall appearance from an outside perspective.
    Why wouldn’t the most attractive women be the ones sending in the most pics…they obviously care enough about their appearance to inquire about it, right?

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    • I would like to defend that not every submission is a fishing hook for compliments

      Spin, hamster. Spin.

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    • “I think a lot of women, including myself, would just like to confirm that their attractiveness assessment of themselves is congruent with how men judge them.”

      In layman’s terms…a fishing hook for compliments.

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      • Myeh, I’m not so sure. If you were a woman just fishing for compliments, would you send your photo to heartiste? Honestly? I can think of easier ways to get one’s ego massaged.

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      • These women just want a larger fish.

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      • These women just want a larger fish.

        The catch of the day is trouser trout.

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      • Yeah, but it wouldn’t have the same meaning; it would be the cheaper discount version.

        The Chateau is like the full metal jacket of game blogs, that thin part of the hourglass… Lots of girls will kiss a frog; very few will kiss a snake.

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      • Few will kiss a snake? You’ve been hanging out with the wrong girls.

        Bwhahaha! Sorry (slapping fingers)…it was right there….

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      • I bet you made that sign of Zorro with your hand while you were snapping.

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    • “I would like to defend that not every submission is a fishing hook for compliments”

      NAWALT. First time I’ve seen that.

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    • This is simply a neocortex rationalization of a hindbrain desire. I might as well ask you why you hide your ovulation from men (human females are the only sexually reproducing species IIRC that hides ovulation [i.e. has sex when not ovulating] from the males).

      In the common jargon: spin, little hamster, spin.

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      • Unless you’re applying for a modeling or TV job, sending your picture to anyone online to be ‘judged’ is like watering the sidewalk hoping it’ll grow.

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    • Attention whores gotta attention whore….

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  10. why is my ordinary comment awaiting moderation?………..

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    • Import restrictions on Canadia, NAFTA be damned. Quebecois women are always welcome though

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      • Montreal has taken many an American boy
        And made him a man.
        A drunk, stuttering, high-as-a-kite, fucked-a-hooker-in-the-back-room man.

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      • My girlfriend says I can be a genius at times and at times quite dumb,

        because I am not sure if it is coincidence you mention Montreal ( and ArtyB above mentions Quebec, ) or if I mentioned I live a few minutes from Montreal and don’t remember it?

        or maybe you people know how to figure out where a comment is from with something like IP addresses or something?

        so am I having a dumb moment here?

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      • Your name is Canadian Friend.

        Then ArtyB mentioned Quebec.

        I was raised in New England. A popular way for young men to grow up was to drive up to Montreal and go crazy with strippers, cuban cigars, underage drinking, and gambling.

        So Canada + Quebec=Montreal, in my mind.

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      • I personally find French Canadian women to be very sexy in general.

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      • You worship at Club Super Sexe?

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      • I have been to Vermont, Washington DC, New York, Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio and Florida
        and it seems we have a higher rate of pretty women here

        it must be something in the water… or something in the poutine
        ( this one may require some explaining for those who have never been to Quebec )

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  11. Tell them to pick up some rudimentary cooking skills, as shown in “A Man Wants a Wife, Not a Co-Worker”.

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  12. A feminine 6 or 7 >>> an 8 or 9 woman that has the attitude of a tank

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  13. So, a girl at work left her number for me, and we had an amazing first date. We had major chemistry and I left her speechless with our 5 minute goodnight kiss. We were supposed to go out again this past Monday. She had a work thing so we rescheduled for tonight. I got a text this morning saying:

    “over the last day I’ve been thinking we should be friends. you’re amazing in so many ways, I’m just not getting the right vibe anymore to continue dating. Keep at your dreams and keep doing what you do. I’m sure u understand or may even feel the same way :)”

    lol wat All we’ve done is sent a few teasing texts back and forth in the past few days. This is out of fuckin’ no where. I haven’t replied. I’m thinking of saying something like “Nah, that won’t work.” Or maybe just “Nah.”

    My reaction was to be AFC for 1 minute. I got the butthurt out, worked out and continued writing my paper. At least I don’t have to shell out 40 bucks on wine tonight now.

    So I guess my question is what are the kinds of counters to use against LJBF that leave the door open for future sexy time? I’ve heard about the whole “men and women can’t be friends” but I really don’t feel like going back and forth with this girl who clearly isn’t really worth my time anymore (text break-ups = you lose my respect).

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    • I had always wanted to reply with a “Nah” since Heartiste posted that “Hetexted” snippet. I finally got my chance! Some LJBF-ed co-worker resumed his moves of chatting me up (stopped after the LJBF conversation). I knew he still had a crush but hey I see the guy every dayand I thought giving him the silent treatment might come across as being a bitch. I thought he finally “got” it ya know. We have random conversations about work related events etc. So early this week he sent me a text saying “I have been thinking about you, I know you are in a relationship and I won’t be pushy, I was just hoping we can go out for a simple coffee outside the work environment”. All I replied was “Nah”. lol I felt like a bitch but had to use it.

      Will not go as far as to send a pic to heartiste like the lady in para 2 but I echo her sentiments that this site is corrupting me….just not sure if its for good or bad.

      Le Sigh, I would reply with a simple “Nah” and end it there. I am not sure why she would send you tha text after you had what seemed to be a great night and first kiss. Maybe it was your one sided perception of how things went, maybe she was just trying to be nice as you both work together, maybe she is no longer sure about pursuing the relationship….so many reasons man, just don’t come across as a “caring asshole” and you should be fine. A simple “Nah” is sufficient. It might lead her to reply and ask more questions, who knows. In any event you will come across as aloof and detached.

      Good Luck!

      P.s. I hope this comment posts….my comments rarely get posted but too lazy to retype…so *fingerscrossed*

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    • Don’t even bother with a response. If she texts again, ignore it.

      Go meet other girls. Seriously.

      When you become proficient with approaches and pick-ups the flakes become irrelevant.

      When I first started gaming I would approach 10 hotties a week, minimum. Within a couple months I was the one doing all the flaking and LJBFing.

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    • Say nothing. That’s my response everytime. Don’t dignify that babble with an answer. There’s 3 billion more women out there to go after.

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      • Gay… is a great response.

        One i recently used was “What makes you think i was that interested?”

        Oh. is another

        or just ‘Hey, good luck’

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    • you need to man up and send her a penis pic.

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    • She has a boyfriend and feels guilty is my guess. I say just ignore her. Send her a text in a few months if you feel like it, but make it short and indifferent.

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    • She texted you that because she is dating someone she likes more than you. That’s my guess.
      Nah isn’t too bad.

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    • Gahhhhh! When you guys (including me) STOP BELIEVING EXCUSES.

      She didn’t “HAVE A WORK THING” she TOLD you she had a work thing. And WHY ON EARTH DID YOU BELIEVE HER?

      Repeat after me 300 times: “Anything but yes is no.”

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      • They believe excuses for the same reason they believe that ‘game’ can change everything: because they have no other shot.

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    • a gbfm style reply seems most appropriate

      her: we should just be friends, you’re so amazing, not getting the right vibe blah blah blah
      you: lolzlozlzolzolz

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  14. Masked in an alpha woman exterior, she has the heart of a beta female. Bitch lookin’ for validation from an anonymous internet source? Her wall hittin’ time is gonna be more like a SPLAT…

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  15. Hmm you could always say “I’d fuck you”, deadpan, as a way of saying what you think, without the supplication.

    Of course, it’s the subcomms that count but that depends on your own mindset and perception of your own worth, etc.

    ps Love the way you write

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  16. “Why, when the world is full of men with nearly universal tastes in women, do some hot women feel compelled to coax unnecessary flattery from an ASCII ghost? The answer to that, I leave as an exercise for the reader.”

    Because soliciting the attention of a phantom Internet non-person costs them NOTHING. It’s all upside (ego-stroking) for them.

    In Girl-world, such an overt sexual display of attention-getting usually comes with strings attached. But not online. On the Internet, the girl retains the privileged status of sexual selection, since she won’t be expected to put out just to get some much-wanted male attention.

    It’s the same reason that hot girls, even the ones in college who don’t need to get jobs as strippers, like to occasionally flaunt their tits. See the Girls Gone Wild video phenomenon, or how sexually brave they get when assembled in large groups — they KNOW they don’t have to give up any sexual favors in order to get the attention.

    They get to look and feel desirable, without having to actually get fucked to prove it.

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  17. I always thought that one of the biggest upsides of having a blog like this would be the pictures girls would inevitably send

    Obviously, there should be a huge proportion of nud.e pictures among those.

    [heartiste: a few nudes. not a whole lot. it will surprise and irritate the haters to learn that most girls messaging the Demon Overlord are actually quite modest in their displays and not the raging skanks the haters imagine they must be.]

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    • You’re thinking of Hunter Moore and applying it to this blog which attracts a different breed of women seeking attention.

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    • So I really got that one wrong….

      In the age of jailbait, i thought that a common concern here would br underage chicks sending nudes

      But the part about pictures I got right. A blog like this is status

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    • a few nudes. not a whole lot

      not at first, anyway.

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    • Speaking for all the male non-lefty readers: I’m jealous.

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    • Probably because any woman that even knows about this place is conservative. We tend to be less willing to flash our tits for no reason in public.

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  18. Vaginal tone is probably a better metric for discussion, and should be included with the submitted photograph.

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  19. There is also much cognitive dissonance in the girl who proclaims “Oh, I just love sex, I’m like a nympho!”

    I’d like them to talk to dudes (gay dudes) with 1000+ partner counts, who frequent chat roulette unironically, who fly to beautiful exotic destinations…just to get their fuck on. That is what happens when you take the female out of the equation. Look at lesbians and look at gays. Women, trust me, as much as you think you love sex, the dude loves it more.

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    • Oh shit! I replied to the wrong thread I’m sorry. This was meant for “Feminist Fallacy” my bad : /

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    • How much is just right? Sex 2-3 times a day should drain most straight men, even highly sexed young men. Good observations about gay men though. I don’t think most straight men are that sex obsessed.

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      • Dunno. A healthy, horny teenager could go 5-6 times on a good day.

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      • Yes, a younger guy could (and I have), but it’s exhausting and hurts. 1-2 times a day is optimal for most men — but very few of us are getting even that. National average is between 2 to 3 times a week.

        Most interestingly, married people have sex twice as much as single people (not controlling for other factors such as age).

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      • on November 29, 2012 at 5:36 am Hugh G. Rection

        With the definition of single being “not married”?

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      • because most single men are beta and get nothing.

        “single” guys with girlfriends get more than married guys.

        alphas get the most no matter what

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      • on November 29, 2012 at 10:43 am Holden Caulfield

        MLTRs are the way to go if you want regular sex with a variety of attractive women.

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    • Dead on. Look at the gay community in NYC before AIDS became the devastating epidemic that it did (in part, ironically, because of that culture). It was downright disgusting, the things that went on back then.

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    • What I just read is “It’s completely okay to pester your fiance for sex ALL THE TIME.” =D

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  20. I think you’re missing out on a key aspect of relations between women. Pretty women ESPECIALLY get ripped to fucking shreds by other women. It’s very plausible that they DON’T know if they really are pretty or not. Their “friends” will feed them on a steady diet of self-esteem shredding abuse and criticism. The only way to know for certain whether you are pretty or not is to ask a man.

    The problem with that is that most men will be really nice. They tend not to like to hurt women for no discernible reason. Which leaves women still wondering “am I or am I not?”

    And hey, Heartiste, feel free to rate my looks. I have a profile pic up at my blog.

    Heh.

    Just kidding. My husband likes how I look and that’s good enough for me.

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    • “The problem with that is that most men will be really nice. They tend not to like to hurt women for no discernible reason.”

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      • I disagree, taterearl. Not wanting to hurt people as a default setting is not beta. If you hold that stance AFTER people have proven themselves unworthy, then yes. Total Beta.

        I find most men’s default setting is kindness. That hasn’t been destroyed. Yet. And that’s lovely. Could just be my own experience though. Men are generally very nice to me.

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      • Ok…what number would it take to not hurt you? Because that’s being nice.

        Or would you want the truth?

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      • Oh never mind, I get it now.

        What number would I want? Well, what’s fuckable? A five? I’m not particularly familiar with the this scale.

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      • @itsme

        You “might” be a seven is a compliment?

        I thought it was honest. Nothing wrong with that. Although the fact that men like a firm ass and nice breasts is not exactly breaking news.

        I asked Mr. JB if he thought it was inappropriate for me to ask Heartiste to rate me on his scale, and he said the only thing inappropriate about it was that the scale only goes to ten.

        Aww. Isn’t that sweet?

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      • You “might” be a seven is a compliment?

        some people take what they can get. i don’t judge.

        I asked Mr. JB if he thought it was inappropriate for me to ask Heartiste to rate me on his scale, and he said the only thing inappropriate about it was that the scale only goes to ten.

        Aww. Isn’t that beta?

        yes.

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      • I have a profile pic up at my blog. It’s black and white but not photoshopped in any way. I have no idea what number I am.

        If my number is really low, then yeah. Lie to me. If it’s not THAT low, then tell me the truth. That’s the difference between being kind to the unfortunate and blowing sunshine up someone’s ass. Kindness, yes. Sunshine, no.

        Does that make sense?

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      • Yup…you are a 20!!!!!

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      • Fucker! That’s so mean!

        Point taken.

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      • Oh, she also doesn’t give a fuck what you think about her.

        Proverbs 11:22

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      • The Virtuous Woman. She tends her flocks, collects her grapes, trades in the market, clothes her maids and does not give a fuck.

        Jesus said it was okay.

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      • Woman, you talk like a longshoreman… now go help hubby with the dishes… I’m sure he’s thrilled being married to a woman who proudly calls herself judgybitch.

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      • Pardon me, sir, but are you impugning my femininity? You’re certainly impugning my husband’s masculinity by implying that he does dishes.

        To me, this felt like a light hearted exchange. Hope it feels that way to you, too.

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      • Well, you’re a sport, I’ll give you that.

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      • I did not see any photo ( of you ) at your blog

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      • About Us Bitches

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      • Eyes count for a lot and we can not see them, too bad…

        but you seem pretty and I think you definitely have a kissable mouth

        Hard to give you a fair rating since we can barely see your face

        but maybe a 7?

        to be “crudely” honest, if you have either very nice curves ( yes I mean a nice butt ) or very nice breasts ( don’t have to be big, just nice ) then you can gain a point or two

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      • Eyes count for a lot and we can not see them, too bad…

        but you seem pretty and I think you definitely have a kissable mouth

        Hard to give you a fair rating since we can barely see your face

        but maybe a 7?

        to be “crudely” honest, if you have either very nice curves ( yes I mean a nice butt ) or very nice breasts ( don’t have to be big, just nice ) then you can gain a point or two

        posts like this are why girls go fishing for compliments.

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      • I had a weak moment

        my bad

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      • I forgot about not seeing the eyes…or most of the body.

        Therefore I take back my 20 and give you an incomplete.

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      • Just for today, I posted a body shot.

        I work my ass for that body, taterearl, so it better be worth at least a 7!

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      • Your husband’s okay with this “body shot” posting and asking strange men to rate you?

        If it were my wife, it would be “taken in hand” time.
        http://www.takeninhand.com/

        Then again, maybe this is your intent? 😉

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      • Greg,

        taken in hand requires registration

        what is this all about? you own that site or what?

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      • Naw, I’m not affiliated with it in any way… I just thought it eye-opening in an anithamster sort of way.

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      • You only need to register if you want to post comments… if you just want to read, merely click the read more links.

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      • Everything is in the right place.

        But I know all about working hard to get a rocking body…therefore I give myself a 7.

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      • @ Greg

        Yep. He’s right here (home for lunch) and he thinks it’s pretty hilarious. Neither of us are the possessive or jealous type. I LIKE it when women flirt with Mr. JB. It makes him feel great and I take it as a compliment to my own good taste.

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      • I’m guessing your veddy British, then… they seem to be big on the cuckold fetish thing. :-p

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      • Nope. Not British. I’ll have to google “cuckold fetish” because I have no idea what it means. I know what the words mean individually, but have never seen them used together.

        If the implication has something to do with infidelity, I’ll tell you some really good ways to prevent that:

        Live in a small town (nothing stays secret here for long)
        Keep your ass in fine shape. Mr. JB has little reason to go prowling.

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      • It might be because I am in Canada because even clicking “read more” takes me to the must register page

        Occasionally some things are blocked or restricted such as the Charlie Sheen video someone linked to yesterday

        Something has got to be done about us dangerous Canadians!!!

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      • As taterearl says

        everything seems in the right place

        but…

        the lens effect makes it hard to judge your butt,
        it looks unusually small, possibly bony…

        other than that, if nothing sags once you take off your bra, then you might be a 7.5 or an 8

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      • Mr. JB… lllozozozozolllzozoozlll

        You go, grrrrl!

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    • This lady is fantastic.

      I just read some of your blog. You maam are a good woman.

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      • Thank you, Furious Ferret. I’m literally fucking gobsmacked to find a community of people who feel the same way I do! It’s bloody fantastic!

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      • Seconded, FF. Great blog, judgybitch.

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      • No such thing as an attractive girl who doesn’t know she’s attractive. And what that can get her. They figure that out around age 5. The REALLY hot ones, however, do have an awful hard time making female friends. They pretty much meet with universal and instant hatred from their fellow vagina owners wherever they go.

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      • Women are like dogs. They travel in packs, make messes on the floor once in a while, are sidekicks to men, and hate others of their kind with their entire being.

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      • I’ve heard women are like cats. You have to uninterested in them to get their attention, dangle string to attract their curiosity, and only expect them to be loyal when things are going good.

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      • Tate:

        Not really, that’s how men are supposed to act. Cats are the traditional simulacra of alpha males for aging spinsters.

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      • I really like your blog, JB.

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      • Seconded. I was wondering “why the hell am I finding all of this to be so reasonable, and she’s actually a chick?” Then I found the money line: “I’m not American.”

        I didn’t marry an American either. Thank God. Went abroad for my keeper, not looking back.

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      • on November 29, 2012 at 11:52 am Hugh G. Rection

        Can’t take a woman who calls herself a bitch seriously. Although I think the actual bitch gets a bad reputation from the women we call bitches.

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      • I could be wrong but I think the other woman on Judgybitch’s “about us page” is her alter ego

        or the other way around

        hard to tell who the real Judgybitch is

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    • You look reasonably attractive- I’d say a 6 or 6.5 maybe more if you have a smokin’ body.

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      • Yep. That’s reasonable.

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      • BTW, women don’t generally make especially good combat soldiers either. An army of women facing an army of men would be beaten as badly as a female sports team would be beaten by a male sports team. Otherwise, it was a good article about women in combat.

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      • Agree! Women should NOT be in combat.

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      • Found these very interesting related facts at Retrophoebia’s blog,

        “From the report of the Presidential Commission on the Assignment of Women in the Armed Forces (report date November 15, 1992, published in book form by Brassey’s in 1993): “The average female Army recruit is 4.8 inches shorter, 31.7 pounds lighter, has 37.4 fewer pounds of muscle, and 5.7 more pounds of fat than the average male recruit. She has only 55 percent of the upper-body strength and 72 percent of the lower-body strength… An Army study of 124 men and 186 women done in 1988 found that women are more than twice as likely to suffer leg injuries and nearly five times as likely to suffer [stress] fractures as men.”

        Further: “The Commission heard an abundance of expert testimony about the physical differences between men and women that can be summarized as follows:

        “Women’s aerobic capacity is significantly lower, meaning , they cannot carry as much as far as fast as men, and they are more susceptible to fatigue.

        “In terms of physical capability, the upper five percent of women are at the level of the male median. The average 20-to-30 year-old woman has the same aerobic capacity as a 50 year-old man.”

        From the same report: “Lt Col. William Gregor, United States Army, testified before the Commission regarding a survey he conducted at an Army ROTC Advanced Summer Camp on 623 women and 3540 men. …Evidence Gregor presented to the Commission includes:

        “(a) Using the standard Army Physical Fitness Test, he found that the upper quintile of women at West point achieved scores on the test equivalent to the bottom quintile of men.

        “(c) Only 21 women out of the initial 623 (3.4%) achieved a score equal to the male mean score of 260.

        “(d) On the push-up test, only seven percent of women can meet a score of 60, while 78 percent of men exceed it.

        “(e) Adopting a male standard of fitness at West Point would mean 70 percent of the women he studied would be separated as failures at the end of their junior year, only three percent would be eligible for the Recondo badge, and not one would receive the Army Physical Fitness badge….”

        … … …

        Need I add anything?

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      • +1
        There were cultures throughout history who had females fighting, but they were either the burly butch dykes or fought only in dire emergencies, like helping out the men when the village was being attacked.
        Outside of the realm of fantasy novels, comics and movies, there have NEVER been any ‘Warrior Princesses’.
        If the Princess has to fight, something has gone horribly, horribly wrong, the enemy is inside the palace, her parents (the King and Queen)likely dead, and she’s about to get gang-raped and/or killed.

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      • But… but… I saw Uma Thurmann kick 100 guys’ asses! Saw it with my own eyes at the theatre!

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      • saw a documentary on snipers and they showcased some Soviet and Viet Cong female snipers who were quite good at the craft.

        Some females can be good indirect killers, such as girls who will slit your throat while you sleep; I knew 2 hoodrats and 1 real “Caucasian” who fit this profile.

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      • “Outside of the realm of fantasy novels, comics and movies, there have NEVER been any ‘Warrior Princesses’.”

        Google “Freydis Eiriksdottir”

        Nasty piece of work, mind.

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      • Somewhat seconding Thwack here. There were in fact women who were warriors, and a number of them….but the historic record (take medieval europe which is my specialty) were either historical outliers with ferocious builds (sort of similar to Emperor Sigismund of Luxembourg’s mother, who could tear mail with her bare hands (!!!))….or else they when they fought, like the Amazons, they tended to do so as archers. Like snipers, those are roles where one can mostly blow off the muscle mass (plus, cultural clue #1, societies where this was the norm, rather than the exception, have all gone extinct).

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      • on November 30, 2012 at 10:32 am happycrow
        or else they when they fought, like the Amazons, they tended to do so as archers. Like snipers, those are roles where one can mostly blow off the muscle mass
        ——————-
        Isn’t is possible the female archer thing was a myth because before modern bows didn’t most bows have an 80 pound pull or something?

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      • Good point thwack

        the average woman has half the upper physical strength of the average man,

        I suppose they could have had smaller bows that women could use, but those bows would have been less lethal, would have had a shorter range etc etc

        which makes me think it is mostly a myth

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    • Actually the trend now is to compliment very attractive women, because the fact that women are mean to prettier girls has been popularized. So now girls really go out of their way to compliment e/o to show they are not threatened (and then talk the house of shit behind e/os backs).

      I saw your pic, but there’s no face. But you do have a really REALLY good body. Do you have a diet/exercise plan on ur blog?

      I’m somewhat tempted to be judged on here,

      [Heartiste: My advice to you would be not to do it. Not because I have inside information or suspicions about your looks or lack thereof, but because this thunderdome is the hate machine, and all who enter here are subject to its force chaos.]

      but my husband knows I am very vain and has already put a moratorium on me flashing my face to anyone who knows my blog ; _ ;

      [Your husband is a smart man.]

      Being told you are pretty is a bit like a heroin high for most girls though. Hmm, no it’s actually like scratching an itch.

      [How about: it’s like your id having an orgasm.]

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      • Being told you are pretty is a bit like a heroin high for most girls though.

        Of course it is! Isn’t being told you are handsome equally intoxicating for men?

        There’s nothing wrong with liking compliments. I think the problem comes when women think their looks entitle them to something, or to special treatment. Good looks combined with a genuinely lovely and pleasant personality will indeed earn lots of special treatment, but it’s the personality part that get you the treatment.

        You can’t really fake being nice. Or at least not for long.

        Anyway, this whole conversation has inspired a hilarious assessment from Mr. JB. He has given the matter deep thought, and because he has a very technical and detail oriented mind, he created a mental template of criteria needed to advance from one level of the scale to another.

        According to him, I am an 8.8. Decimals! He added decimals! Just one though. No need to get carried away.

        So there, taterearl!

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      • Of course it is! Isn’t being told you are handsome equally intoxicating for men?

        only a woman or a homo would describe being complimented as ‘intoxicating’.

        flattered, yes….intoxicating, no.

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      • “He has given the matter deep thought, and because he has a very technical and detail oriented mind, he created a mental template of criteria needed to advance from one level of the scale to another.”

        Does she still inspire “Mr. JB” to come to attention? 8

        Everything else is the .8.

        But I’d give you 7.5…and add an extra point because you are so entertaining. Most gals bore me these days.

        You have a sister?

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      • Nope. Sorry. Three brothers. But thanks though.

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      • There’s nothing wrong with liking compliments. I think the problem comes when women think their looks entitle them to something, or to special treatment.

        …or when women, after experiencing the highs from the ‘intoxicating’ compliments, fish for more to feed their addiction. more more MOAR!

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      • @itsme

        I used the word “intoxicating” because the previous poster compared compliments to heroin, which is an intoxicant. Maybe. Alcohol is an intoxicant, definitely. Not sure if narcotics would also be considered intoxicants.

        I have a four year old daughter, so I don’t need to go fishing on the internet to feed my “addiction” to being told I’m beautiful. I just put on a tiara and some frosty pink lipstick, and my little one will follow me around sighing “mummy, you’re soooooo beautiful”.

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      • Isn’t being told you are handsome equally intoxicating for men?

        It is nice of course but not intoxicating, not for me anyway

        what is more ” intoxicating” is having a hot woman in my bed begging me to make love to her -again- and watch her have multiple orgasms

        I guess I have been lucky; 4 out of the 25 women I have been with were multi-orgasmic women ,
        my present girlfriend has on average five orgasms and that makes me feel like a man or rather like the king of men ( well for a few minutes it does ).

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      • [Heartiste: …but because this thunderdome is the hate machine…]

        At least in Thunderdome, two enter but only one leaves… here, the hamsters multiply.

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      • Can someone point me to a post that explains the whole hamster trope? Seriously. I kind of understand the rationalization hamster, running around on an endless wheel, but I feel like I’m missing a huge part of the connotation.

        [Heartiste: The original “rationalization hamster” was conceived right here on this blog, though this fact gets lost now that the hamster has skedaddled his way to all corners of the internet, to the general mirth of untold billions of readers. A definition of the hamster can by found somewhere deep in the archives of CH.]

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      • @ Heartiste

        Ok I’ll go digging. My initial reaction to Greg Eliot was to point out that hamsters can’t reproduce all by themselves -it takes two to tango, baby!

        BUt I thought I might be missing a key part of the dialogue.

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      • I have never really liked it when men complimented me on my looks. I think men should compliment women on things that require efforts, rather than gifts they were born with. Maybe if a woman is older, complimenting her efforts at staying youthful looking would be okay. For instance, if I was mopping a floor and a man said to me, “Good job, you got that floor really clean.” I think I’d be more open to talking to him.

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      • I understand that, and it has certainly been drilled into our head (by ugly feminists) that compliments stemming from something besides our beauty are the truly virtuous compliments….

        But then again, isn’t being smart as innate as being pretty? Isn’t being hard-working, possessing future-time orientation, and having a kind heart also things you are more or less born with?

        Of course, we can build on these foundations, much like a 7 can become an 8 with the right haircut, make-up and gym obsession- but to state that other attributes that also can be boiled down to genetics are somehow more worthy than beauty is slightly disingenuous.

        This is not a slam at you, btw, and I am sure you are both pretty and smart…… it’s just a peeve of mine. I have heard lots of women say “I’d rather be told I’m smart than pretty” and frankly its bullshit, both are things you are born with.

        The one thing to be said about the feminine virtues (outside of beauty) is that we can make them last forever…..

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  21. **boring manboob discount bin.**

    What are places to avoid for $1000. Good cautionary tale. I told a beta about the 1:3 compliment rule only to get in reply the lament “but they don’t compliment me.” Now you know, you’re in the bargain bin, buddy.

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  22. Is this beta?

    (Re-Rf)/(Rm-Rf)

    where Re=cost of equity Rf=risk-free rate Rm=market rate of return

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  23. A good test would be to reply to all the 8s and 9s telling the they’re 6.5s or MAYBE 7s. Tell the 6 or lowers that they’re 8s.
    I’d love to hear their responses…purely for scientific curiosity of course.

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  24. What number of what?

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  25. I don’t think any woman who’s ever seen a television is unaware of where she stands on the scale. Media takes care of gauging media standards, and real life takes care of the natural standard.

    Personally, I think the reason they write here to ask is because they want an honest answer. I’d give it to them but remind them that this just makes them a more appealing shag. They still have to have manners and home skills for the win.

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    • Most women are allergic to honest answers.

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      • Yup…and women wonder why we lie all the time.

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      • I think an honest answer would be the most alpha answer. It always stuck in my craw when guys would lie to me. It’s one thing when a man’s praise or approval is about actual positive things, and focuses on the positive instead of the negative. It’s even acceptable when there’s something negative that, because it says something good or appealing about a woman, it’s cool. It’s another when a dude is praising you about things that are untrue or lying that something is okay with him that isn’t.

        One of my recent boyfriends lied to me, and I admit that he did it well enough that for a time, he seemed more deviant alpha or higher beta than standard or lower beta. Once he showed inability to either just shag or be in a relationship though, it became clear, and even more clear when after me, he was with a chain of butterface. I’m not talking regular salted butterface where the salt covers up the lower quality well enough for toast. I’m talking meth mugshot.

        We all want to know how the men they want perceive us, with no sugar and no cream. Respect is the seed of love, and if you are dishonest, we don’t respect you. So the best answer is, “You are fat, but you turn me on anyway,” or ,”You have the jaw on a linebacker on steroids, but it doesn’t matter because…” It lets us know you have a firm hold of reality or at least social reality, but you value us despite our flaws.

        When you value us despite our flaws, but don’t deny they are there, then it drives us to correct the ones that are correctable, and feel less insecure about the ones that are not. So just tell the truth. You can do it gently, but do it.

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      • Oh you though I was talking about lying about women’s attributes…I don’t do that because you wouldn’t believe me anyway. I lie about my awesome attributes until they become true…that’s called overconfidence.

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    • Then why do you see so many college-age warpigets at the beach in bikinis, completely confident that they are gorgeous? Because TV should be telling them that they are ugly as fuck.

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      • They think they look good because at closing time, guys in bars who have not managed to pick up better women will do just about anything female and willing, especially if alcohol is involved.

        the average male under thirty is so horny that anything above a ham sandwich will give him a hardon which the piglets misinterpret as a sign she is hot looking

        Believe me I know.

        I used to be a young man, and the breeze used to give me hardons

        at 53 I am not “finished” and don’t need viagra but it takes a little more than the breeze now!

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      • Pretty much.
        A teenager gets a hard-on looking at a mud puddle, the older the man gets, the prettier the woman has to be in order to get a, erm, rise, out of him.
        Which leads to endless tirades by middle-aged-and-above women about how ‘useless’ men their age are and how they are ‘forced’ to look for guys 25 years younger to satisfy their incredible sexuality…….
        Methinks the phenomenon of warpiglets (<30) believing themselves to be Miss Universe is mainly an American thing. In other places, a woman's attitude usually more or less matches her looks and/or social status. So a 10 (or someone who is actual nobility) would have the attitude of a 10, an 8 would have the attitude of an 8, etc.
        In the US, the attitudes sported by 8-10's have positively left the stratosphere and were last seen heading for Andromeda, 6's & 7's think of themselves as 10's and even 4's and 5's still dish out shit even an 8 would have trouble getting away with anywhere else.
        The obesity epidemic has made this even easier for at least some of them, because in a room full of beached whales, the manatee is a slender hottie…..

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      • Teenagers get a pass, but when black guys want to fuck refrigerators ya’ll start lookin up at the trees.

        (((shakin my head)))

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      • Thwack’s had trees on the mind ever since watching Roots.

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      • Roots is old and played out. They need to make one on the French Revolution in San Domingo (Haiti)

        Talk about a nigger wet dream…

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      • It depends where you are. Your surroundings warp your sense of attractiveness. I live on Miami Beach, and I see a lot of midwesteners looking extremely uncomfortable in their going out gear and bikinis, when they realize almost every girl here is a 7 or higher. The tourists look like they’ve been taken down a few pegs (men too, honestly, Miami beach guys are buff and pretty hot- and pretty gay, lol).

        Where I live, frankly, I don’t really get hit on too much, but when I went to New England on holiday, I was stalked and proposed marriage to (different dudes) …..in front of my husband! I had men stop to stare at me on the street. It was GLORIOUS. I know where I’m going when I hit the wall!! “Let’s go to DC honey, it’ll be wonderful for your career” lol (not kidding tho).

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      • It is telling them that they are ugly, but in real life, availability is still important.

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  26. Would it be asking too much, to have a “photographic measuring stick” of panorama sorts?

    When queried by the hamster, hold it up to her face and reply, “Here, I think you need this more than me.”

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  27. I disagree — the denial of unattractive women runs so deep that they are NOT aware of their SMV. They do not ask for opinions because they don’t think the average man is capable of seeing their beauty. Wrap your head around that one.

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    • It’s less about “capable of” and more about “willing to admit to”. Men are generally capable of seeing beauty in most fairly healthy women. The problem is that far too many these days restrict themselves socially because they’re feminized.

      I don’t have a generalized solution for this except time and inevitable mortality. My personal solution has been to totally avoid men who show any signs of chickitude or pop conformity.

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      • you are right, men are now socially feminized but I’m not sure how that affects their being able to see beauty in fairly healthy women

        what do you mean?

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      • It doesn’t affect what or how they see it. It just affects whether or not and how they will act on it.

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      • In the last two decades men have become more feminized and although beauty ” standards” don’t change much they do in small ways

        what is considered a very sexy body now is a woman with very narrow hips, not much different than a man’s hips and from behind the butt does not look much different from a man’s butt

        I’m “old school” I prefer women with hourglass curves

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      • Canadian Friend
        I’m “old school” I prefer women with hourglass curves
        —————-

        Or maybe you have some black in you?

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      • If liking women with hourglass curves be black, jes’ call me soul bruthuh.

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      • I doubt I have much black in me, I have blue eyes, blond hair and pale white skin and a lot of people say I look German…

        I do have some soul though as when I play blues on my bass!

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      • Isn’t there a place in Germany called the nigger forest? and what about Arnold Schwartzenigger?

        And wasn’t there some dude called the Black Knight?

        Just sayin.

        BTW– lots of black people went to Canada when they backed the wrong side in the Revolutionary war.

        They try to play that down in the United States, but lots of black people told George Washington to suck a King George dick you faggot!

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      • Fair enough, but the beauty I was referring to is imaginary. If 1 out of 10 men has the balls to be honest about who looks good and who doesn’t, unattractive women will still place the blame on the man when they don’t get hit on by even that 10% (instead of their low SMV.)

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      • The idea of blame in attraction is, I believe, a reaction to awareness of the social component. Most women, for reasons others have explained, can’t tell the difference between beauty and social convenience, so they attempt to enforce standards through social pressure.

        They succeed to some degree, in determining who is or isn’t a legitimate marriage partner, when their judgment is useful in some way. When it is useless or done to enforce restriction regardless of natural suitability, to a select group, it only serves to alienate men. I see it happening here in Israel all the time, and it is, I believe, the cause of the demographic crisis. The relatively secular have no need for a standard which restricts them from similar or same cultured women on the basis of maternal religious designation, but it is enforced nonetheless.

        Beautiful women even if you use the most conventional media standards as a gauge, are mistreated and sidelined here because they don’t fit one of the convenient categories. It’s pretty sad.

        On the flipside, there are butt ass ugly women with the personality of snakes who believe that they should be treated like queens just because they belong to whatever community, and the pickings, beauty wise, are slim. These women, highly unattractive even with the most merciful physical standards are reeking havoc, and even though they do get the ring, you can’t make enough guys shag them regularly enough to reproduce at replacement rates.

        The male sex drive is an awesome thing. It can be manipulated to some degree, but not that much. “The dick has a mind of its own…”

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      • Holy shit…is the whole “marry Jewish” thing just a manipulation of collective SMV by the tribe that brought us feminism in the first place?

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      • A friend (ethnically Jewish, but Pagan in belief) sitting next to me now asks, “Do you want the yes in the short version or long version?”

        Although we wouldn’t blame the Jews for feminism, as the Anglo cultural mindset was very much a part of the reason the movement grew political teeth, one should understand that feminism was never for women of color (or the lower classes, how ever they’re arranged). We were used as experimental subjects, and as convenient victim icons, but those who actually benefited from feminism were supposed to be White/upper class women who would be relieved by it of the worry of competition.

        Class would stay as it was/is, but men would just be convinced that it was wrong to resort to getting their needs met by less snobbish women because this was victimizing them. It didn’t work out quite so well for them because men will never ever be convinced fully that a woman being more poor or in a lesser class actually makes her less attractive. In fact, vulnerability is a kind of default feminizer, and what is feminine is attractive.

        Feminists wanted to change men’s preferences to higher class women who made more money and accomplished more career-wise. Of course this would mean that Vanessa cleaning your toilet would be less attractive than Zoe doing your taxes. Amazing how deep that rabbit hole is, no?

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      • Yes I think because the average man has the “protector instinct”, some vulnerability in a woman is perceived – consciously or not- as feminity

        that is why successful women are somewhat less attractive to most men, they do not seem vulnerable

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  28. There is no question, women enjoy the supplicating comments. My gf has heard me quote research several times that plays to the chateau’s tune. Which really hit home when heartiste commented about the young lawyer cunt, my gf is only 24(I’m 22), but now is in panic mode and tryin to get me to marry her since she remembers everything I’ve cited combined with watching some of her friends a complete mess at age 28 trying to get married. It gives me great pleasure know a growing portion of women are also heeding the heartiste gospel. I think the reason women are demanding attractiveness ratings, is partly due to the natural response to search for supplication, but also I would assert the world views are so vastly different from what these women know and are looking for confirmation of what they already know biologically. A friend of mine, who is a much better pua then me, went through a mini crisis where he asked me to rate the woman he was currently dating, which to me, shows that even when the answer is clear, we can still be uncertain.

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  29. ** the denial of unattractive women runs so deep that they are NOT aware of their SMV. **

    That’s one reason why if they date an alpha, they’re scarred for life. See i.e., Lewinsky, Monica.

    lolazolzollozololz, Notice how uncle bill is rumored to be wanting to get back with Flowers back in 2005 but he hasn’t connected his blue dress soul mate?

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  30. Turning and turning, the writhing gina tingle
    The hamster cannot hear its master
    Things fall apart; the self delusion cannot hold
    Mere hypergamy is loosed upon the world,

    The free birth control induced tide is loosed, and everywhere
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned
    The best figure this shit out at Chateau Heartiste while the worst
    Are full of Jizzabel induced insanity.

    Surely some revelation is at hand;
    Oops, never mind….shiny thing! Damn, Glee started five minutes ago? Did you turn on the DVR thingie for meeeeee?

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  31. on November 28, 2012 at 9:28 pm Rihanna Deserved It

    “Why, when the world is full of men with nearly universal tastes in women, do some hot women feel compelled to coax unnecessary flattery from an ASCII ghost? The answer to that, I leave as an exercise for the reader.”

    Because in a world full of betas, they are desperate for a real man to come along and treat them like dog shit.

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  32. […] This commune of cosseted corporeal delights gets its fair share of female readers emailing the proprietors with requests (nay, more like demands) to rank them on a 1 to 10 beauty scale. Photos are included, along with promises that all info will be kept private (naturally). The proprietors abide the second request, but rarely the first, because it is quite obvious that what these women seek they already know, and are simply fishing for a little of the ol’ ultrastroking of their egos by the lead pack animal with fur of woven gold and claws stained with mortal triumph. A recent example of the genre appeared in the Inbox of Consummation, and, as is usual in these cases, the woman in the photo is quite fetching, a solid 8. She too, asked for privacy, so I will not reveal any details here, except to say she is younger than lawyercunt age and was eager to leverage her looks for a family and babies before it was too late, evidencing a feeling of deadly urgency not often observed in women so young which she acquired, so she says, through reading this blog. She valued the opinion of the Rectory’s Grandmaster, and wished Source: Chateau Heartiste   […]

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  33. collapseofman – agree. My feel is that the majority of heartiste’s readers are probably above average intelligence and hence have a higher self-awareness, so only above 7’s have been sending him pics. This is not true in other areas of the internet.

    heartiste – to back up my point, , what do you make of http://www.reddit.com/r/amiugly then? There are a fair number (majority!) of people there who are below 5’s and yet post pictures of themselves asking for ratings. And there are also those are are genuinely 7+ who post too, thinking they are ugly.

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  34. You guys are over analyzing this stuff. Seriously. I’ve considered sending a picture of myself, too. And the reason for doing so is because I can expect total honesty from CH as I don’t think that there is any chance between us. The thing is, I am constantly inundated with guys who tell me how super hot I am… and I am tired of it. I just want the goddamned truth. Hey, I don’t want to hear some pretty lies any more than you do!

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    • Suggestion to CH,

      Since hotornot is now a defunct site, maybe CH could have section where we would rate women’s pictures ?

      there is definitely a demand for this type of ” service”

      another suggestion,

      there could be two ratings,

      the face would appear first, we would rate it, and then the complete photo with body would appear and we would give a second rating

      In my humble ( arrogant? ) opinion it could be quite interesting…

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    • I hear you on that. The problem with guys is that you never know if the compliments are motivated by a desire to fuck you.

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      • I admit this is confusing because although a guy may simply want to do you and nothing more,

        it is mostly how do-able ( or how fuckeable) a woman is that makes us interested in more than just fucking you

        In other words, if we find a woman very do-able odds are high we will want her for a long term relationship ( men are highly visual ), and of course paying her a few compliments ( even if ill advised by CH ) is part of what a man does when he is interested in a woman for a long term relationship, call it whatever you want ” courtship” etc…

        the only way to tell the two guys apart is to not be an easy girl

        the guy who wants more than just doing you will stick around longer ( but don’t make him wait too long either )

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      • In my case, that gets difficult. I’m a redhead. Everyone automatically assumes I’m a slut. Therefore, decent guys tend to think they don’t have a shot and stay away, while the assholes think they can ask for it way too soon. I’ve had this happen to me way too many times.

        I think this could apply to most attractive women, but unfortunately, too many of us play to stereotype. In general, my idiot liberal sisters have conditioned our generation into that state – either too afraid or too confident in how easy a woman is. Hence, it’s impossible to tell what somebody’s intentions are.

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      • Maybe it is because I am from a different culture , although not that different the USA border is only a 40 minute drive from here – but this idea that red heads are sluts is new to me.

        French Canadians do not see red heads as sluts as far as I know

        I like red heads and their milky white skin…especially if they have green eyes…

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      • Having spent time in many different cultures, I can’t say I’ve ever heard of redheads being easy, either. Unless you count the Arabs, who basically think of all White girls as whores, hair color irrelevant.
        What’s a little puzzling is how (in America) red hair is somehow associated with Ireland and how Irish women are portrayed as ‘beautiful and fiery’.
        The vast majority of Irish people I’ve come across – in Ireland as well as elsewhere – had dark blonde, brunette or black hair, seemed rather timid unless drunk and while they are probably the friendliest people in Europe, no Irish woman is ever going to win any major ‘Miss’ titles.
        If you’re into redheads, you’re better off in Germany, Holland, Denmark or Russia.

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      • Two things,

        I have read somewhere that there used to be a lot more of redhair people in Ireland but like many places the demographic changes and inter racial unions have made them more rare now ( may have read that at VanishingAmerican )

        I have also read somewhere ( I read a LOT so I can not remember everything or where I read it , it may have been at psychologytoday ) that it is possible the fact redhair have more sensitive skin which makes them a bit more “responsive` to touch, may make it seem that they like sex more than other people

        I suppose that is where people got the idea that they are sluts which they probably are not

        stereotypes although not often true or accurate, some have some basis in some real facts,

        But who cares about facts when embellished stories are so much more fun?

        If it weren`t for embellished stories, legends and myths we would not have feminism or white guilt!

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      • It could be that it isn’t a thing in Canada. It could be that because we’re one of the more rare phenotypes, we carry a higher SMV. Can’t say we’re more touch-sensitive, although we are wired differently for pain. But I’ve heard/seen that stereotype multiple times before, and CH confirms it in this blog (in some post, I’m not going back through to find it). It doesn’t really matter. All I was trying to say was that for some of us, it’s almost impossible to get accurate, untainted feedback from men.

        (and yes, the redhead gene is actually Scandinavian in origin, and probably got into Ireland due to the raping/pillaging of the Vikings back in the day. Lots more redheads in the North!)

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      • Canadian Friend
        Two things,
        I have read somewhere that there used to be a lot more of redhair people in Ireland
        ——————–
        Thats true because Ireland is a smaller geographical area so it was easier for the redheads to find each other, fuck each other and thereby, make more redheads.

        But once the emigrated, they became too far spread out from each other.

        Thats why there are less redheads today.

        As Mike Tyson would say, “my logic is inpreggniggable”

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      • Ginger ruined it for all redheads.

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    • (.)(.) or gtfo

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  35. Women crave excitement. Receiving the notice of a perceived-to-be-alpha is inherently exiting to them. Flashing their naughty bits for notice and even minot tokens of approval does not feel un-natural or degrading to the hind brain IF,, and this if is pretty big, the alpha frame is strong.
    Within the right alpha frame, flashing for them feels like a hit of some kind of brain candy. I suspect this is why stripping is so prevalent and so ancient. Guys can at least cling to the hope that the girls could be getting off on doing their act if the guys were hot enough. They never are, of course. But the fact that in some sense they could be (Maybe like at an exclusive club for Major Rock Stars) is appreciated on a primitive levels by all concerned. So the chicks can dream the guys are worthy of a look at their tits and the guys can dream that they being told they are worthy.
    But time should not be wasted in such lame, dead-end, unconsummated play acting. Just wait until you are alone (enough) and then give very specific instructions on what buttons to undo, what straps to wigggled out of and how long to stand there getting cold for my eye pleasing and her re-moralzation.
    Leave quickly when the elevator door opens. You will want to avoid leaving her feeling shame for having stripped for you. Act like it was lust a different kind of hand shake or business greeting and for fucks sake keep your cell phone demon camera completely out of sight.

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  36. “The other interesting angle to all this is the question of why, when the world is full of men with nearly universal tastes in women, do some hot women feel compelled to coax unnecessary flattery from an ASCII ghost? The answer to that, I leave as an exercise for the reader.”

    yeah i would say women, generally, have a higher opinion of their looks than what is reality. Maybe they are approaching H, the top alpha dog, for a mercilessly straightup answer as they are confident ie. hot enough, to handle the truth and they know he will
    give it.

    But i think these women (as described to be feminine desirable 8′ s) are drawn to H like moths to the light. This blog is game too. And they feel compelled to hit upon him. I dont think he is telling us everything they say in their contact messages. i would bet they are more flirtatious.
    I would even go as far to say that this blog, its proprietor, our lord and king.lol, and the multitude of comments by us proletariat dark knights, send major vagina tingles to those women who find it.

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  37. Do you think men, in aggregate, tend to underrate their own individual SMV while women slightly over-rate their own SMVs?

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    • Considering the non-stop beatdown most men receive from ‘society’, it’s kind of surprising they don’t all kill themselves at 14.
      Women – at least in the US – overrate themselves to a power unknown to mathematics.

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  38. [offtopic]

    heartiste, Cast your eye on this:

    http://www.elle.com/life-love/ask-e-jean/ask-e-jean-husband-mother-affair

    ASK E. JEAN: MY HUSBAND IS SLEEPING WITH MY MOTHER

    E. Jean helps one woman realize she has found true love, joy—and freedom—in her husband’s affair.

    That’s just too rich.

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  39. I would agree with that…look at all the insecure men out there… I dont think men have the positive feedback women have. For example, betas building pedestals for them..women complimenting eachothers looks no matter how minor. Bisexual tendencies from other women. Value as a human being whether you want to be a stay at home mom, business women, or penniless artist. The list goes on — but not for men.

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  40. Goddamn Heartiste, I can’t keep up with you at this rate!

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  41. Wikipedia. Gotta love em’

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  42. isn’t it obvious? women send you pics because they have developed a crush on you after reading this blog.

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  43. women send you pics because they have developed a crush on you after reading this blog.

    My point all the time. Hey, I am an avid reader of humor blogs and most of them are written by pure-blooded nerds or at least seminerds. And even those guys, when they ask, manage to get pics of tits

    But they have to ask. Usually by creating some prize like “female reader of the week”

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  44. Another one here who has been tempted to send in a picture. For the exact reasons delineated in the post. What has stopped me: 1) I want to be a NAWALT. 2) I can accurately guess my ranking based on the myriad analyses of female SMV discussed on this blog. 3) My husband thinks I’m hot.

    And also count me as one whose feeling of dread has come early as a result of this blog. Even though I’m married. It’s the feeling of dread that I must have children now. Sadly that will have to wait for several more years, whilst the dread increases.

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  45. Re: tweet “Charter schools are just (liberal) white flight ”

    That may be true some places, but not in Georgia. Here, the charter schools cater almost exclusively to poor minority students.

    E.g., http://www.kippmetroatlanta.org/results.

    http://reportcard2011.gaosa.org/(S(4kezy3bev1e2tj0bnn3ensfs))/k12/demographics.aspX?ID=761:605&TestKey=EnR&TestType=demographics

    The same is true in other places, e.g., Houston.

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  46. This is one of the reasons that a lot of women post a profile to dating sites – they have no intention of actually doing anything with the plethora of responses, it is purely to stroke their ego. This is one of several reasons that I gave up on such sites long ago – the return was too low for the time – so the choice was to “cut and paste” something and spam profiles (reduce my investment) or punt and concentrate on other venues looking for quality and something that forces women to have an investment and really WANT to be chosen. Now I haven’t used a dating/social-media site to meet women in 10+ yrs for that reason – too many women looking for ego stroking, and they tend to have an over inflated opinion of themselves due to how many responses they get. Both make them effectively worthless for my purposes…

    This is why as one of my primary ways of meeting quality women, they are usually trying out for something which makes them compete with other women, and it is not only there looks,but it is MY opinion that matters. But I’ve found that women competing with other women for your attention provides many benefits – women looking for general ego stroking aren’t worth your time, since it’s too easy with no emotional investment on their part – you want it to mean something important to them, and have it so that they WANT/NEED to win and will celebrate being chosen. Sounds difficult, but it really isn’t…

    Too many men do not grasp how competitive women are when it comes to competing with other women, and do not use it to their advantage. I do… It isn’t for everyone – but it works for me. And the advantage is, that it only costs me time – everything else gives tax benefits… Who else can say that taxpayers fund their sex lives – other than politicians (and generals)?

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  47. Heartiste… what about if us guys send you links to our facebook profiles and you rate us on the alpha/beta scale?

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  48. I had this hit me up on the ‘MEET ME’ feature of POF.

    http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=42721701

    that is someone severely delusional about their respective value. i understand i’m not Brad Pitt… but WTF?!?!?!?

    Hot girls will always seek extra validation because it’s a fun exercise for them with little risk. Even if surrounded by other hot women, there is no risk of rejection or denial of validation.

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    • Heh, heh… smokes… overweight… burnt-out look in the eyes… three, count ’em, three kids… and they come first!

      How does that song go? Oooh, baby, baby…. baby, baby.

      lllozozozozollllozoozl

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      • Sometimes, I visit Datehookup for some forum mudslinging, but that’s been getting boring lately.
        PoF sends me ‘matches’ twice weekly, basically an endless parade of Single Moms 18-50-something living in La-La Land. Looking at the women wo supposedly want to ‘Meet Me’ makes me puke.
        Some of the Russian ‘mail order bride’ sites have incredibly gorgeous girls with profiles so perfect, it’s enough to make a grown man cry, but they’re all fake.
        Back to da bar…….

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    • Glad I’m not the only one who is insulted when one of those come lumbering in.

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  49. Last word on the subject from Brando (ok, Williams but still):

    Blanche: “Would you think it possible that I was once considered attractive?

    Stanley: “Your looks are okay.

    Blanche: “I was fishing for compliments, Stanley.

    Stanley: “I don’t go in for that stuff.

    Blanche: “What stuff?

    Stanley: “Compliments to women about their looks. I never met a dame yet
    didn’t know she was good lookin’ or not without bein’ told.


    Starts @1:02 Stay dry, girls!

    cf. fishing thread

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  50. So which one was Maya.

    The 4 or the 6?

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    • Yeah, I was wondering about this too … I don’t think I’m a 4, I believe that I’m still a 6 (maybe 5.9 now because I’m one year older). Anyway, I don’t really give a shit about this 1-10 scale. It’s truly pathetic to rate people like that.

      I also don’t agree that being an average woman (5) is close to “soul burning fires”. Although I’m past my prime and average looking I’m much happier and confident compared to how I felt 10 years ago. I used to be quite pretty (like most young girls with normal BMI are) and although I lost the cuteness I had I gained self-respect and confidence and this is so much more important. CH won’t agree with me but I believe that most men would find it easier to fall in love with an older, confident woman than some neurotic young girl with no self-respect.

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      • I’ve come to the conclusion that ‘falling in love’ is a fairy tale for idiots. ‘Older, confident woman’ most often translates to ‘wrinkly, arthritic control freak with attitude’.All women are neurotic,age irrelevant. Not sure where those young girls with no self-respect are, most of ’em think of themselves as the Hope Diamond with the Crown Jewels on top. This includes Walmart cashiers.

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  51. Dudes got some gunz; he could be a contendah

    Is there a closed caption version of this?

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  52. 30 Scale

    1-10 (Bad/Pretty Ugly)
    10-20(Below Average/Cute.Prettiest Above Average)
    20-30 (Ugliest dime/Very hot)

    The scale correlates to how you speak with the girl.

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  53. Hmm, I’d opt for women to not make such requests…on the other hand…keep that hamster SPINNING!

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  54. Faggot.

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