A Quick and Dirty Dating Guide to Foreign Girls

Like most measurement tools of the quality of a man’s game, the flag metric doesn’t account for a girl’s hotornotness, but it is still superior to the notch count because foreign girls do have subtle differences in their outlook on life, their behavior during courtship, and their opinions of men that will test the flexibility and resourcefulness of a guy’s game.  The sum total of a foreign woman is more than her ethnic cuisine.  It makes sense that, for example, a Japanese girl and a Peruvian girl will yield very differenct experiences for the player attempting to bed them.

Not knowing the distinguishing traits of whatever foreign girl a guy is trying to pick up won’t kill his chances with her because the fundamentals of game are universal, handed down from the cosmos like the ten commandments of poon*.  The tried and true methods will work regardless of her country of origin.  Nonetheless, knowledge of her ethnic idiosyncrasies will put a man way ahead of his competition.

The one structural advantage any guy has with foreign girls, namely the allure of the exotic (hybrid vigor for you science wonks), is not something that can be learned.  I assume it counts for some fraction of my interactions with them, but since most of the foreigners I met were in the US at the time and surrounded by “exotic” American men I don’t think that advantage played much role.

The following observations are based on the foreign girls I have been with for more than a one night stand.  All of them were recent (less than one year) emigres.  Feel free to extend these gross generalizations to the entire ethnic group.

Russian – I have a thing for Russian chicks and Eastern European chicks in general.  Their apple faces and chiclet teeth make my loins sing.  The toughest part of gaming them occurs right at the beginning, getting progressively easier once the front line defenses are breached.  They are a challenge to approach because they compose themselves with an icy aloofness that tells a guy he will get his balls handed to him if he dares interrupt her calculated repose with a “hi”.  Once opened, the Russian chick will shit test you like there’s no tomorrow.  Her barrage of caustic rudeness will shock you and leave lesser men reeling.  This defensive mechanism has been honed from a lifetime of dealing with Russian men who went caveman on her with direct game.  The important thing to keep in mind is that her initial flurry of verbal blows is a paper tiger.  Successfully parry her and you’ll notice her eyes immediately light up with attraction.  Underneath the chilly exterior she harbors an uncontrollable desire to submit to a worthy man.  If you are that man, she’ll transform from bitchy ice queen to sultry seductress in a flash.  Sex with them will be like nothing you’ve ever experienced with an American woman.  They are ravenous in the sack and love to be dominated.  Their submissive posturing and obvious delight at servicing your sexual perversions needs will make you feel like a man who missed the memo on the feminist revolution.  When she gives knob jobs, which is often, you will sense right away that she enjoys every minute of it and is not just doing it out of obligation — your dick may as well be a vodka popsicle.  Don’t be surprised if she sweetly asks you if you’d like to do her in the ass the first time you make love with her.  There is only one answer to that question.  Caveats: Get to them before they hit 30; after 30 it’s instant babushka.  Also, Russians are incredibly manipulative.  They can smell fear upwind.  If she is able to get to your soft underbelly, she’ll rip you open.  Don’t ever show weakness or let her know she’s won you over.  An old Russian proverb says:  Once a woman captures a man’s heart, she loses interest.  This is doubly true for Russian women.

Polish – The second most warm-hearted, selfless, and charming girl I have ever been with was a Polish girl who, unbeknownst to me until the last days of our fling, happened to be married.  Which shows that even angels with a heart of gold are capable of infidelity.  Contrary to the ethnic jokes, Polish girls are not stupid.  They are sharp and funny and hopelessly romantic.  Yes, Polish girls are more romantic than even French or Italian girls.  Their romantic idealism is not as stylistic as the French nor as passionate as the Italians, but it goes deeper and they feel it more strongly.  If you recite a poem you wrote to a Polish girl on a date, she will love you for it without a hint of cynicism.  They are less materialistic than most and that is reflected in their strong connection to nature and the supernatural.  You will get more mileage out of watching a sunset with her than with any other type of girl.  A Polish girl will fall in love with you the second your dick grazes her labia.  Most Polish girls are naturally thin — they don’t exercise much but they don’t eat much either.

Czech – These are the new “it” girls of Europe.  They are all unconventionally hot.  Czech porn is bookmarked in my browser.  Czech girls love buying you things and they relish the sappy romantic phase of courtship.  “Let’s take a walk under the moonlight” is a common refrain you’ll hear from her.  Czech girls have embraced the feminist dogma of the West yet remain tied to the traditional dating mores of Eastern Europe which makes for a lot of hypocrisy.  But that’s OK, because all you need to be is an oak tree for her to lean on through the storm of her emotions.  The one Czech girl I was with was average in bed.  Clearly, the American sense of entitlement had corrupted her after only a few months in the country.

Estonian – It has been said that the hottest girls in the world hail from Estonia’s capital Tallinn.  I believe this is correct.  My next trip abroad will be to Estonia.  Like other European women, Estonians dress stylishly, are comfortable in their womanly skin, are naturally svelte, and love the company of men.  They hate Russians so if you want to win points with her drop a casual anti-Russian remark about how you heard their women drive their men to drink and an early death.  Most Estonian women are 9s and 10s with the approachability index of 6s and 7s, so when you find the rare one in the US you absolutely must go for it.  They like to wear baby tees that accentuate their ample Baltic bosoms.  Estonian women are so beautiful their 40 year olds are more fuckable than America’s 25 year olds.  If you are smart, spend the day with your Estonian lover being seen at your favorite pick up spots in the city.  When she goes back to her country, she will leave you the parting gift of unbelievable social proof you can cash in for six months of American tail.

French – Fashionable, coquettish, flirtatious, worldly.  These stereotypes are accurate.  Hairy armpits, anti-American, and loose?  Inaccurate.  True to their image, French girls love to be seduced as much as they love seducing.  Just make sure you know what you’re doing.  Heavy-handedness or clumsiness during the pick up will turn her off.  Subtlety is key, even if it’s cheesy subtlety.  Play hard to get with a French girl; they eat that shit up.  Emphasize the “tortured brooding artist” angle a la Ethan Hawke in ‘Great Expectations’.  If you have a rudimentary knowledge of black and white photography, offer to take her picture.  Nitpick her tiny flaws while you are arranging the shot — “this lighting is bringing out the severity in your nose.  here, let’s just move your head this way.  perfect!”  The French have an inflated sense of self-worth so open a 6 the way you would open a 9.  Don’t expect her to fall in love with you just because you penetrated her.  Do expect her to have other lovers on the side.  If she moves back to France you will never hear from her again.

Finnish – If you think teasing is all part of the fun of flirting, you will not get along with a Finn.  Joking banter that arouses an American girl will send a Finn rearing up with indignation at your effrontery.  You will be left scratching your head at how someone could be so hypersensitive to your playful humor.  I used to call my Finnish girl “finn-skinned”.  She almost cried.  The upside is that a Finn chick is a naif in the art of head games, so you’ll never have to deal with her flirting with other guys in a bar just to make you jealous.  Finns are introverted.  There is a sly Finnish joke that goes:  How can you tell if you’re talking to an extroverted Finn?  He looks at your shoes.  But don’t mistake this aversion to sociability for weakness.  Remember, these are the people who held off a much larger Soviet invading force.  And the best sniper in history was this guy.  A Finn girl’s introversion hides a surprising strength of character.  She won’t tolerate her man walking all over her.  Fiercely loyal and commitment-oriented, Finns make fantastic girlfriends.  More than other women, Finns appreciate small gestures like spontaneously buying her a rocket pop from an ice cream truck.  Finn girls smell fantastic and look ten years younger than their age.

Chinese – These girls are sensitive and hold to traditional beliefs about dating and courtship.  Seducing them ham-fistedly will backfire.  If she is hot, don’t bother with backhanded compliments or other similar tactics designed to put a girl on the defensive about her beauty, as the Chinese girl, like the Finnish girl, will take everything you say at face value.  A little game goes a long way with Chinese girls, especially if you are a white guy.  They are natural caretakers and will be very supportive of you while you are going through a tough time.  While they don’t have a reputation as romantics, they are in fact quite loving and affectionate.  They are not as earth-shaking in bed as the Russians, but they can make love for hours on end and have an encyclopedic knowledge of fornication positions.  They have a kinky streak.  Odds are you’ll get a finger up your ass in the middle of sex.  Oh, and it’s true, Chinese girls are very tight and have soft skin like teenage vulva.

Romanian –  Romanian girls come from a very tough land, one of the poorest countries in Europe, and this stressful upbringing has molded them into very traditional marriage-minded women.  Dating them will be like a time warp to the 1950s.  At least, that’s what I’ve heard from friends who have dated them.  Unfortunately, the Romanian girl I hooked up with had been in the US for years.  It showed.  I only include her to demonstrate what a pernicious effect American life has on a foreign woman.  Occasionally, I caught glimpses of her former self — the bouyant whimsy, the joie de vive, the optimism, the humbleness.  Too bad her soul was slowly getting crushed.

Ukrainian – see Russian if from east Ukraine; Polish if from west ukraine.

So there you have it.  Be thankful if you live in a US major metro area.  These cities attracts many foreign girls.  Once you start dating them, you’ll wonder why you ever bothered with American women.  The only downside is getting rusty at dating American girls.  When your foreign lover leaves, there will be a difficult period of withdrawal as you adjust to the realities of dating the local scene again and all that it entails – the princess issues, the status whoring, the cellulite, the attention seeking, the bitterness, the neuroses, the strident anti-feminine careerist beyotch militancy.  It will be enough to make you want to pack up and leave.

*more on this later.





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  1. excellent!

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  2. Very informative. Hall of fame

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  3. I don’t agree with the post-30 babushka thing. I work with a Russian chick that looks 25, even though she’s in her early 30s. She’s got a nice face, but I can’t get past the teeth. When she first started working here, she was plain and depressed. Then she got herself an American boyfriend and she seemed to brighten up and transform herself at least 2 points higher on the scale.
    Its too bad you don’t have a guy version of this post for the ladies.

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  4. on June 12, 2007 at 6:07 pm de tocqueville

    I generally think that gaming is somewhat universal but I was wondering what you thought about the effects of race on gaming.

    For example, in the U.S., black men are perceived by some women to be out of bounds for a variety of historical and sociological reasons. Asian men, too — who are often perceived as less desirable relative to other ethnic groups.

    This phenomenon basically holds true outside of the U.S. as well. White men and women are fawned upon in Asia and Europe, while black and Asian men get the shaft (aside from certain situations like Asian men in Asian countries).

    So while the flag metric may be valid within ethnic lines, it falters across lines because white men have a built-in advantage from imperialism, media globalization, etc. For example, I know many Asian folks who ridicule the white expats in China, Japan, and Korea as the dregs of Western society who can’t hack it in their country and yet still score with Asian women who are obsessed with Hollywood portrayals of white heroes who are more liberalized and warmer than their Asian brothers.

    So if an Asian dude scores with an Estonian hottie, I think there is more value in that flag, than if a white dude scores with a Japanese girl (all else being equal).

    This argument is similar to affirmative action debates where conservatives think students should be assessed equally without consideration of race and liberals believe that this notion of meritocracy is faulty because of institutionalized racism and other factors. Or in the words of MLK, you can’t put someone that has been shackled his entire life at the starting line and expect him to run a fair race.

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  5. haven’t dated women from all those countries, but the Russian analysis was dead on. Women from Finland and the Baltic countries are ussually very attractive, and rugged!

    Sort of disagree about the Poles. i think they run the gammut, especially since Poland is really a border country straddling the East and West.

    We should add Germans to the list!

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  6. You know, now I’m going to write one like this as well. Instead of women, though, I’ll do groups of people/races. Can’t wait for the backlash.

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  7. A buddy of mine is a mid-westerner of Estonian decent, decided to work out there for a few years. Really bright and nice guy, absolute zero game and wouldn’t you know it, he game back married to absolute hottness. They had their first kid a few months back. In the hospital post-delivery she looked better after childbirth than most women do before a night out!

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  8. mm – has your russian co-worker been in the US long? that would explain her fortunes at avoiding the curse of early-onset babushka-ization. russian women living in russia do not age well. i’d do a guy version but it would be secondhand info gleaned from the foreign chicks i dated, and hence somewhat colored by their experiences. the ball is in your court.

    de tocqueville – you make some valid points, (though i would argue that the reasons for the disparities in interracial dating are somewhat unclear. for one take on it check out http://www.isteve.com/IsLoveColorblind.htm), but addressing these issues would really complicate the flag metric because we’d have to nail down exactly what advantages each race or ethnicity has with women before declaring one flag worth more than another flag.

    top – germans are perverted sheisse vid lovers, we all know that!

    irina – you’ve bedded men of many different races? 😉 don’t sweat it, you won’t get any backlash. people are intrigued by this stuff.

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  9. Czech women are the hottest? I had heard that it was Croatian women that have all the men raving these days. Also, Spanish (Spain) women do not live up to their fame as nice and hospitable. They are tough to uproach and seem to be very traditionally Catholic in their notions of courtship. They like sappy romantic statements and are fantastic in bed.

    I heard Koreans are the hottest of the Asian women, but have never been to Asia to verify.

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  10. I don’t know what to say. You have left me speechless.

    Although I’m not French, I did spend a lot of time in France and 1) thank you for clearing up the stereotypes and 2) you’re dead on.

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  11. Actually no, unfortunately my flag metric score is absurdly low. (Russian women only date Russian men) So is my anything score (except my credit score- Jewish people are good with money). (Oh and my SAT score, Russian Jewish immigrants have really high SAT scores.)
    Or maybe those are stereotypes, and though it seems okay to generalize about what women are like in bed or in relationships… it’s not quite as okay to publicly generalize and stereotype about race in general. I like this loophole.

    And if I were to write something about the men my friends or I have known I can generalize:

    Serbian men: bad kissers
    Italian men: bad kissers
    Albanian men: creepy
    Greek men: creepy and bad kissers and ‘quick’
    French men: pretty
    Russian men: better than anyone imagines
    Israeli men: bad in bed
    Iranian men: never want to be in a monogamous relationship
    Dutch men: tall and handsome, but you have to chase them
    American men: play bizarre games in which they assume they manipulate women into bed, and then take pride in that.

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  12. Irina, Latin american men: possessive and insecure

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  13. I’m a black guy with six flags [cue the crass ‘amusement park’ jokes]. Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico, Guyana, Jamaica, Trinidad, and…Bosnia.

    I think de tocqueville was right about race affecting a black man’s game. Some girls will outright shut you down before you can speak. The reactions are polarized. Either they are very open [due to sexual curiosity] or very closed. Some don’t even want to talk to you…forget it. I’ve had a couple white girls start conversation with me [when I’m looking clean cut and not too urban], but most seem to be apprehensive or outright repulsed by the suggestion of sexual interest. Haven’t really tried my hand with Asians, Pacific Islanders, etc.

    Now, the Bosnian girl was GREAT. Met her in a bar in Manhattan…she lives in Jersey. Didn’t have the best handle on English, but clear about her interest and didn’t play games. Great in bed.

    I don’t think being black would prevent me from ever getting a desired flag [except for those groups that don’t copulate with outsiders, like certain Arabians, or Ethiopians] but it makes it a lot harder. It’s all good though. I like a nice booty and black and latin women have that in spades.

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  14. I gotta hand it to you. This post is priceless.

    As much as I’ll laud the humor in your ethnic analysis, I only wish ensuring a good shag were as easy as looking at somebody’s passport. I’ve hooked up with a valid statistical sample of foreigners who, based on national stereotypes, should have been mind-blowing casanovas– but they were no better lays than the average American. I’d actually venture to say that foreign guys spend way more time perfecting their barroom game than their bedroom prowess.

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  15. irina: “unfortunately my flag metric score is absurdly low”

    unfortunately?
    i think for girls the only metric they’d be interested in following is the alpha metric. no notches, no flags. just one data point — did you or did you not rope an alpha male desired by many woman into marriage?
    if marriage isn’t your bag, substitute with LTR.

    “Russian women only date Russian men”

    i’m evidence against that. unless you’re talking about russian jews, which may or may not be true, i don’t know. russian jews and russian orthodox are very dissimilar in just about every conceivable way except love of marxism and language.

    “Russian Jewish immigrants have really high SAT scores.”

    you may be interested in this study:

    http://homepage.mac.com/harpend/.Public/AshkenaziIQ.jbiosocsci.pdf

    “about the men my friends or I have known ”

    if american men play games it’s only because experience with american women has trained them to do so.

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  16. So true about Russians, heaven on earth. And the great thing is – Russian guys are such drunken s**ts that the women jump at the first foreigner they see.

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  17. Irina you’re talking rubbish, there is a whole literature on how Russian girls don’t like Russian guys. Especially when you consider the skewed sex ratio due to the conscription and deaths-from-alcohol of young men, which allows the remaining men to live a quasi-polygamous existence, so the girls who do not wish to partake in such a scenario look abroad.

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  18. cuchulkhan you have no sense of humor

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  19. An interesting analysis.

    I was going to say Russian women are beautiful, but to be honest, I don’t discriminate. I appreciate beautiful women of any nationality. 😉

    Related to this, I have found it interesting that the most popular posts I’ve had and that continue to get traffic are the the two I posted of Russian women.

    Sexiest female DJs http://multislacking.wordpress.com/2007/06/06/sexiest-female-djs/

    Russian Girls at Game Developers Conference
    http://multislacking.wordpress.com/2007/06/11/russian-girls-at-game-developers-conference/

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  20. I’d imagine American men are good in bed, because American men won’t settle for anything less. The less romantic and the more hard-bitten your women are, the better you have to be in bed to impress them.

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  21. Whoops, I meant American women won’t settle for anything less.

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  22. mq – i think there is something to that. except i’d say the less traditional women are the more they expect to be properly serviced in bed. from what female friends have told me, this expectation hasn’t led to american men becoming wizards in the sack.

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  23. on August 5, 2007 at 2:40 am Jakarta_Estonia_Prussia

    How many girls did you fuck?

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  24. you are somewhat are an idiot.

    You seem to end up with Americanized foreign women. Thats kinda pathetic.

    I met many Czech girls and very few have the feminazi characteristic you describe. They are just not as desperate to get out of their country as say Russians.

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  25. why is everyone so hung up on race and nationality and ethniticity? i am white but really this is immature and the guy who wrote this is not a man of honor or integrity. why does anyone read this guff, validate him, and why would anyone of respect even comment to his sins/evil and his disrespect for woman? he insults females and objectifies them (but is is above it himself in his own very small mind) and should be ashamed of his actions and his writtings here. i hope he knows that one day he will have to give account for these deeds, which are purely of satan.
    just imagine, one day when you have a daughter or two hopefully a young guy will talk about your female children like this. also i wonder if anyone mentioned your mother in you race/nationality list. maybe you should start there by devaluing her and the other women in your family. hopefully your future wife will be devalued too. you are a damaging person.
    assuming your white i guess your mother fall into you last paragraph, right?
    also wondering why you have such superiority? as if your king of the world and a winner. well i dont see the true kingpins of the world doing what you, only small men who are nothing and have nothing do what you are doing. the top of the food chain marries within thier race and dosent have to do what you to feel important and validated. bill gates, president bush to name a few. men on the top dont have to act like they are someone because they are. they dont devalue women to feel good about themselves like you. only small insignificant men do what you. who puts down his own nationality and its woman? evil small men=you. all your actions are those satan does….. i guess he is your father. any insults you want to make about him? hes coming to get you.

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  26. ps……. american men are not great hot or desireable, they are easy targets thats all, because they want to believe the lies. foriegn men know the tactics of thier women and they dont play the game. american men make good puppets and pets for the women of other nationalities they are gullible and useable and desparate to prove they are kindpins. the women act thier way to the altar for a green card and meal ticket (american men believed they are getting a prize, when really they are part of scene in play they are unaware they are in!) see how blind evil and stupid this guy is lol
    i know plenty of russian woman and guys who date them, its always the same story. disaster. men like this guy are ruining america with this garbage. selfish selfish selfish. think about ameria and others for once. get your brain fixed and start doing the right thing for the betterment of all. YOUR NOT THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE. GOD IS. YOUR NOT SPECIAL OR NOVEL OR VALUEABLE.

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  27. gloating about victimizing, using, manipulating, devaluating, hurting, misleading and showing how useless and disposable women are shows what kind of person you are and how you really feel about women. WOMEN SHOULD RUN WHEN THEY SEE YOU, IF THEY SAW THE REAL YOU THEY WOULD, BUT LIKE SATAN YOU WEAR A MASK OF A DECENT PERSON UPFRONT, WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING, IS LIKE YOU, SATAN COMES AS AN ANGEL OF LIGHT, SO YOUR ACTIONS ARE THE SAME who does what you do? DEMONS AND SATAN. THE TOP OF THE HEAP MEN GET MARRIED AND SPREAD LOVE AND PEACE. the bottom of the food chain do what you do.
    why are all the hottest riches men married?
    because thats what 10s who are winners do.
    ZEROS DO WHAT YOU DO BECAUSE YOU A NOBODY A ZERO.
    i can only imagine what kind of evil raised you and taught you evil was good and to be the monster you are.

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  28. This post is gold. As a guy who lives in Europe and has planted numerous flags in France, Germany, Austria, Estonia, Russia, and Italy, I can tell you most of these observations are spot on.

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  29. Ever any California girls ?

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  30. the hottest girls in cali are the asians…

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  31. just to tell you that russian women are cold and i have a lot of them,but ukrainian are crazy in bed.if you please really well them they will follow you like tha cat follows a good susage.russian girls pretend to be classy but they also love susage ,dont expect them to have everyday sex with you but when they have it the explose,Now with these ukrainian and russian u have to be careful couse if u gicve her only dick she will find somebody on the side just for money.I live allover to europe and i would say eastern european wonem just want to get the hell out of the sountry.In ukraine and russia the proportion of men and women is very low u have 10 women ro a man.After 1 and 2 world war also with all those stalin and nazi killings there were more than 40 milion men killed and also in russia and ukraina and alloverexsoviet union there are more girls borned everyday then men.Soi russian and ukrainian and all eastern european girls dont feel special there too much competition between women just for a man.So they wanna come to America when they can be queens when most of women here are fat and no classy( american women) a girl from eastern europe an average one in eastern europe would be the queen here.Also men are really macho there and drink so dont get tricked and twisted my friends couse a lot of people brought them here and next thing u know she is gonne with the richie

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  32. on March 3, 2008 at 11:00 pm Russian to conclusions

    Dead on about the description for the Russian girls. -couldn’t have said it better myself.

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  33. Interesting post, so many things I could take issue with. I will limit my comment to one. That is the exclusion of, in my humble oppinion, the most beautiful women in the world. that is the circle including eastern Africa, southern Russia, and western China. With the most striking being of Persian descent. I think you will find these women test the limit to a man’s fortitude and resolve.

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  34. What’s your take on mixed nationalities? Is that basically just the same as “American”? I think that mixed heritage can make things a lot harder for you to predict/ stereotype the person.

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  35. I’m an Estonian, living in Estonia – and it’s true the women here are extremely beautiful. I’ve also lived in the US for about 2 years – and I have to say – I see more beautiful girls here in a single day than I saw during the whole time in the US.
    🙂

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  36. I’m a dutch man, currently living in Finland. Id like to add some stuff about finnish girls. What I first noticed, is that they are naturally pretty curvy. You dont really see any flat-chested women in here. And they also have great bums. 😉 But they do get hurt pretty easily and want to be equal in everything. They dont really expect you to buy anything for them, or to pay the bill if youre in a restaraunt. So they take care of them self, many of them have great careers and stuff. I know a lot of men dont give that much respect, but I do, since Ive lived with a girl who wanted me to be the one who takes care of _everything_ financially. That girl, my ex was asian.

    Id say asian girls are pretty easy for every guy. The most unattractive guy you can imagine can score asian girls, such as japanese, chinese or thaigirls, as long as he has money. Dunno why that really is. What sucks about them, as lovely as they are, is that they truly expect and demand the man to buy them everything. They value money so much it gets ridicilous. If you cant buy her expensive gifts all the time youre in for a crisis. They only do pleasant things to you, if you spend your money on her first.

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  37. What sucks about them, as lovely as they are, is that they truly expect and demand the man to buy them everything. They value money so much it gets ridicilous. If you cant buy her expensive gifts all the time youre in for a crisis. They only do pleasant things to you, if you spend your money on her first.

    Zac, I’m Chinese, and I know that “money” preoccupation you are talking about. It’s a weird kind of instinct that we have. Money is very big in Asian culture; for example the number 8 is the luckiest number for the Chinese because it means “to grow” or “get richer.”

    Asian women are encouraged to look for men who are “stable,” “hard-working” and “good providers” and to overlook everything else, as long as the money is there. I suspect it’s the long, peaceful civilization culture that caused Asian women to overvalue money and undervalue physical prowess, which would be more valued in a more war-like society.

    Personally I hate it when my man buys me anything expensive as I feel like it’s a waste! If he spends more than $30 on a gift for me, I think he’s spending too much. But I know this is also just another manifestation of the Asian money obsession. I hardly ever buy anything for myself, always look for a good deal, and love saving up/hate taking risks with money, etc. I also learned these habits from my mother.

    It’s always good to understand the underlying motivations behind our actions. I try to temper my stinginess because it does get a bit extreme sometimes. I am definitely not as generous or charitable as I know a lot of Americans are…

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  38. Hope,

    My experience with Chinese women is exactly as you describe yourself. Definitely a cultural thing.
    What makes a Chinese girl want to be close to a man? Is it demonstrating how hard a worker you are? How would this go on a date? What kind of gifts are appreciated? I would guess maybe something useful?
    I am extremely attracted to Chinese girls but, as you can read, pretty clueless on how to attract them.

    -JH

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  39. sad.
    really, incredibly fear-of-female-power-and-being-an-equal-human-being-sad.

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  40. Love the post, we need more blogs like this.

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  41. did u allready get to tallinn?I am a girl an live here..

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  42. I agreed with you

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  43. why is this website not for girls

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  44. and we will chat

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  45. you’re genius!!

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  46. An interesting site. (I’ve stumbled upon it thanks to a fellow blogger who recommended you.) I gotta say, being a Polish woman, that your observations about Eastern European women are spot on. They are most beautiful and feminine, if I may say so myself. Walk a street in, say, a large Polish city and your head will be spinning from delight (if you’re a guy–or a girl who likes looking at other pretty girls). On the other hand, Eastern European men are not up to the women’s level, by and large. Part of the reason, in my opinion, is that they do not take care of themselves.

    A different–opposite–is the situation in Germany, where I spent some time. German guys are hot, but women… well, let’s just say not so much (unless they are Polish immigrants :).

    And having lived in the US for many years now, I’ll be grateful if you don’t ask me what I think of American women (in the looks department *only,* mind you).

    My opinion of American guys is not too favorable, either, (sorry) when it comes to looks, manners, and their general approach to life and love (though I’m open to unforeseen and exceptional occurrences that just may dazzle me and help me change my mind. Things happen. Good things, too. So I hear, even in this unromantic country.).

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  47. Well I am Eastern European 23 years old woman from Bulgaria, and you’ve missed my country..Very non -professional surveing you’ve been made!!

    However, It was interesting .

    But why you speak negatively for the American culture?And why you didnt make a profile of the American women?
    And my third question is: are the Russians the best because of the sex did you like something else in them…?:))))

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  48. I am Russian. Have Canadian Cityzenship and a passport. Not need to worry about any immigration. Not interested in Ukranian/Russian or North American men. Anal sex is disgusting. No need to find someone on the side. Always approached by Middle Eastern men. They are handsome but love to play on the side too. Been there, done that. Ce fini. If a man can understand me on emotinal and sexual level, intellectual? ah, *(sense of humor), I would be nice and supportive. With me, what you see will not be necessary what you will come to discover. There is lots angles to my personality but in the unique way . Do not take crap from anyone. And do not swear too much. Spanish guys..should try to meet one.
    NOTES TO MYSELF.

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  49. One of the first women I dated in london was Polish and I met her in a techno club. She was evading my attempts to talk to her until I ignored her. She wasn’t hot but there was something about her. Very curvy, jet black hair and lovely soft skin. Her teeth were awful though, too many in her large mouth, but I was intrigued.

    I took her on a date to a pub and danced with her all night.
    She was fairly unsophisticated, but she exuded a sultriness hard to describe. Lots of men were staring at her. When I got her into the sack it was like unleashing Satan. I have never met such a vixen. First it was the nails in my back, then the whimpering, then after a very short time she was demanding anal sex. After a while I started to loose interest because of communication difficulties. She kept directing my hands into pants in public places, especially the bus.

    After a while I could feel my heart taking strain…I have a heart murmer. I broke up with her a month later but it was a wild ride.

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  50. Congrats! We have a guy from Washington, who probably never travelled outside his continent, make a profile of girls around the world based off immigrants. Perhaps I should profile American men as paedophiles, judging from what I’ve seen in my place of origin.

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  51. I think we need to continue Irina’s thread.
    I totally agree with the Israeli men : bad in bed + over aggressive

    British men: bad kisser + bad dancer
    Chinese men: bad in bed
    Turkish men: good in bed
    Indian men: good kisser + bad in bed

    which ones are we missing now?

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  52. Dominican men: bad kisser + good dancer
    Mexican men: good kisser + good dancer

    but both super slutty 😦

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  53. As a finn, you view of us warms my heart:) And I think you are somewhat right, too. I here women do tend to be more staight forward and not so much for headgames and bullshit. (Maybe because theres also less social climbing here?))
    We are not all introverted tough but our “rules” for polite social interaction are maybe a bit more rigid than yours.

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  54. I dated Czech, Romanian, Russia, Hungarians, Ukrainian, Polish ,and Slovak. and I will take them any day over an American woman. First of all they are hotter, and second they are nicer to deal with. If you don’t know their culture, then you’re a retard.

    American women will always lead the world in goldigging and are by far the most worthless women.

    Honestly if you can’t get a hot Eastern European women, then you are gay. Cause the women overseas don’t like pussy cuckhold men or loud mouthed men. They have more values than American wonen.

    Only a gay would write or believe this “analysis”.

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  55. I just want some chicks….please give me some dirty chicks…..I’m lonely

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  56. As an American man born and raised in Los Angeles, and who has visited and lived in 36 countries, and has lived in Ukraine for the past 3 years, and has even written a book on this subject matter which you can see for yourself at http://www.foreigndatingsecrets.com, all I can say after reading this post is.. well done! 😉

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  57. I forgot how I even came to this page, but I love your assessments for the women of each ethnic!

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  58. Russian girl analysis is dead on…

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  59. a polish girl “will fall in love with you as soon as your dick grazes her labia” LOL priceless.

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  60. Finnish Girls are the most strange girls in the planet form me and many others, however if you meet them more you will find that are really sexy and cool.

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  61. on January 1, 2010 at 8:38 am Bill Lumbergh

    laine, you must be joking.
    “the top of the food chain marries within thier race and dosent have to do what you to feel important and validated.”

    Many of the powerful people are married to Asians, for example Rupert Murdoch.
    I’m an “Eastern European” guy and I definitely find the East Asian face and body characteristics most attractive and they have the personality to go with it. I don’t mean the Thai-filipina mail order brides here but educated, picky women – they have that “something” that women of other ethnicities/nationalities really lack, go figure. In a relationship now and happy, while the Eastern European women are quite good looking I really don’t have really have any interest in them because of trust issues mainly but that said I seem to get plenty of attention from them – go figure.

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  62. To: Irina

    serbian men are bad kissers? ha. You obviously haven’t been kissed by a serbian guy, their the most romantic kissers, ever.
    and, if you respect them they will be the most loyal men to you. How about you stay kissing the russian guy’s, have fun with them, they will kiss you then kiss the girl behind you, how sweet. 🙂

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  63. May I enter a contestant into this debate. Although, I find eastern european women to be very sexy and exotic, and many other ethnicities to be sultry and alluring. I have always found French Canadian women to be the most beautiful, sexy and affectionate of all the women in the world.

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  64. on February 9, 2010 at 10:33 pm In need of advice

    you have openned my eyes good sir

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  65. Finnish girls make the best partners, they are really sexy, but at the same time honest and have very high morals. Strong, but often have this indescribable cuteness and charm.

    They do need you to treat them like “flower in your hand”, no bullshit or she will leave! 😉

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  66. The past 5 years I have spent an average of 4 months of the year traveling around Western, Central, and Eastern Europe. I am a wine importer so I am fortunate that I can stay abroad for such extended periods. It is true that American men can be manipulative and play games, but it’s from trying to stay above water with American women. I really feel they just don’t appreciate us. Take for example the Russian situation. Russian men just don’t appreciate their women. American men … Russian women. Trust me, it works out quite nicely. Mutual appreciation leads to an intense and passionate relationship. I must admit that speaking 7 languages is a big help, and my Russian is quite good. I laugh when I hear women say such absurdities as their women don’t date foreigners. All of the major cities I frequent are teeming with Westerners. I am also amused when I hear that these women only want to come to the States. So what! Most people see America as a land where you you can change your life for the better. My point is, you get out of any relationship what you put in. For me, I am most attracted to Russian ( I am including Ukrainians and Belarusians ) and Hungarian women. They are very passionate about loving their man and creating a loving and harmonious family. All I can say is take that step and look for the love you want. Opportunity does not knock … you must knock on opportunity’s door. I did. I am soon to be married to a beautiful girl from Minsk, Belarus.

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  67. So, you American guys think like your’re the catch of the sea?
    What a load of crap I say 😉

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  68. JH, you don’t have to try anything to attract a Chinese woman. I am a Chinese woman and currently in a relationship with a Serbian male who is about six years older than me. I never ask him for money and on’t expect anything from him apart from good conversation and a good time. Laughing, joking, playing.

    It doesn’t matter what colour, race or creed, we are all the same – human beings. And if you find an attraction with someone, isn’t it all the same for all cultures… Love is something you can’t measure by the colour of any skin!!!!

    Just be yourself JH and stop trying to hard if you’re thinking of it. Just be you. Sometimes what we want, we have to try hard for and then if it’s too hard, why go down that track at all?

    It doesn’t matter all this interracial relationship thing as long as you both understand and communicate with each other… then surely you’re on the right track with whoever you meet in the world! 🙂

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  69. what is a quick dirty guide for a foreign guys with modified version of game to start banging american chicks ?

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  70. what is a quick dirty guide for a foreign guys with modified version of game to start banging american chicks ?

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  71. Well all I can say is very few of you would get with this intelligent English woman with your generalising player mentalities and rather sexist attitudes!

    But hey, I guess most of you are only looking for one thing and intelligence is not required.

    Oh, by the way, Jamaican, Asian, Scottish, Italian, Swedish… and all for their individual characters!

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  72. Hey Michelle … You shouldn’t take it personally. You sound almost like one of the gals back home in L.A. I spent some time at the London School of Economics as an undergraduate. It was an exchange program and I was most fortunate too meet and date women from the UK. As far as I’m concerned, it’s all a matter of preference. Just like Peking Duck is different from Russian caviar, but I enjoy them both. Seems that the men on this site are basically commenting on women from parts of Europe where the average tourist does not travel. Let’s face face it, not everyone is in love with Yanks or Brits. It is not a matter of intelligence. That is just a cop out when Western women feel rejected. From my personal experiences, most of the women I have met from Eastern Europe all had a B.A. or Master’s Degrees. A few had their Ph.D. and a couple were medical doctors. So why don’t you leave us to our dalliances and hook up with a site that includes the type of bloke you’re looking for … Have a nice day

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  73. Greg – it is personal as I am a woman who takes objection to the sexist chauvinism I see in a lot of these posts. I am making the point that as a woman with a brain I would not be interested in any man with such an attitude. I am talking about the men here not the foreign women you are blanket objectifying. Also I shall give my opinion wherever I chose thanks. Have a nice day!

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  74. Michelle … Who hurt you? You must have been really devastated … Pity, you seem like a caring woman. True there are some sexist men commenting on the site, however, what I hear from your tone is anger, frustration, and reverse sexism. I do believe that you are condemning all men because of your relationship failures. Michelle, it is not your education that turns men away from, it is your attitude. You are confrontational and condescending. How do you expect men to respond to such hostility? Perhaps we should chat more and privately … no point in bickering in front of the entire world.

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  75. Greg – amazingly sexist attitude to take. You know nothing about me, yet you make your patronising assumptions. I am simply balancing the arguement here, and boy, do you lot need it. Oh and I suggest taking a close look at your own attitude towards women.

    Do tell me… did you guys inform the women in question if your attitudes? Honesty. That is what creates a loving relationship. If any of you even care about that…

    P.S. Re chatting privately… like I said, not a chance pal! 😀

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  76. Michelle … Who died and you were assigned the job of balancing us out? True, I do not know you, but you are a textbook case. But then, I am sure your therapist already told you that. I also would like to add that you do not know us, but you make broad assumptions. Once again, you convey reverse sexism. Just examine your attitude, it is women like you that encourage us to seek love elsewhere. You are that classic woman on a talk show that claims we don’t want you because you are too intelligent and too successful. Those programs should put the men you date on the show. I am sure that they would comment that you are insecure and have anger and abandonment issues. The American divorce rate is the highest in the world, 55%. Since I spend 3 months a year in Eastern Europe, I decided to look elsewhere. Obviously I found my fiancee in Minsk. As I stated before, I am about to get married. My offer to chat privately, was a gesture intended to help you with your anger issues, not an attempt to get in your pants. That is the problem with women like you … you think every man wants you. When in reality, no one does. I tried to be nice, but you scoffed at my gesture of friendship … such an attitude of negativity and scorn. Good luck … you definitely need it.

    P.S. I do not intend to carry on this conversation … Good bye

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  77. 1. Your attitudes are clear from this blog.
    2. Any man that wants to blame a woman for his infidelities is not a man.
    3. Giving my opinion on players is not sexist.
    4. I have not claimed I am not wanted for my intelligence. In fact, it is the total opposite.
    5. I have no anger issues, in fact iI counsel other’s for theirs. Why would want help from someone with your attitude towards women?
    6. Plenty of men want me, thanks!
    7. If you want friendship take a different approach next time. A non-sexist, non-patronising, non-chauvinist one.
    8. Good luck to your fiance. She will need it.

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  78. Wow, you’re such a superficial slut (the one who wrote this article). Enough said.

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  79. I agree. This Michelle is just an opinionated woman who can’t deal with the fact that men reject her.

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  80. For what it’s worth, avoid English girls unless, hard drinking and inane conversation is your bag, the education system in the UK is poor and it shows, thick is not the word. German girls are well kinky. Spanish girls are easily hurt but make great lovers. The French are hard to get to know but are great todger munchers. American girls, see English times two. Italian girls are completely unpredictable and crazy. Fins warm up quickly and love anal as do the Dutch. That’s all!

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  81. on August 7, 2010 at 4:19 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””””””Michelle
    Greg – amazingly sexist attitude to take. You know nothing about me, yet you make your patronising assumptions. I am simply balancing the arguement here, and boy, do you lot need it. Oh and I suggest taking a close look at your own attitude towards women.

    Do tell me… did you guys inform the women in question if your attitudes? Honesty. That is what creates a loving relationship. If any of you even care about that…

    P.S. Re chatting privately… like I said, not a chance pal! 😀
    ”””””’
    I agree that honesty is what makes loving relationships. The problem is all woman lie.
    Nor can they keep promises.

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  82. on August 7, 2010 at 4:22 pm gunslingergregi

    It’s fairly easy to figure them out though just have money and they will lie to themselves that they love you until they do.

    It is win win..

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  83. Wow! All of this complaining. This blog is what it is. If you do not like the content, don’t come back. What goes on between two people is their business. You English are just too uptight. Why should you care any way? Don’t people in England have casual sex? If you want to rescue women from what you perceive as evil, start in your own country. I am sure that none of these contributors are wasting their time in the UK.

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  84. men that part about french woman going back to france and never hearing from them again is so truth

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  85. Wow… pretty creepy. Okay, REALLY creepy. The part about Russian women smelling fear upwind is true for the most part. I think I catch a whiff from you… Find something about women who don’t won’t let you have your way with them intimidating, dear?

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  86. I have to agree with Jean. English girls are a trip. They are opinionated and think they are God’s gift to men. I dated a few, and all I can say is never again.

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  87. I’ve discovered Danish girls this week and wow they are great, gorgeous, sexy and very fun. Also, French girls can be really fun if you meet the right one. Shame I live mostly in England, all are right who say women here think they are God’s gift but really are nothing at all special, actually mostly they are boring and ugly and think men should worship them.

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  88. Danish girls are so hot. I know Copenhagen quite well. I travel there at least 3 times a year for business. I must say, after reading some of the comments, I am quite intrigued by these Slavic women. Perhaps I’ll spend my next holiday in either Russia or Ukraine. I agree with everyone else, a pass on English girls. Much too moody for me.

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  89. Ya missed out on the Irish!

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  90. I’m confused. What is the aloof game? I will say this, Russian gals are not as naive as some of the women may think. There are so many generalizations. Just a point, these gals are not chomping at the bit to marry just any foreigner. I’ve been to Moscow, St. Petersburg, Minsk, Kiev, and Odessa. These are big city women who are not fools nor are they desperate to leave their country. All I can say is that I find Slavic women very attractive and who knows, perhaps I’ll marry one. However, that is a decision that we will make with the utmost care and consideration. Not all men are reckless and not all Slavic women are desperate.

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  91. As someone who as slept with many Chinese women, I must say your comments about them are totally off-base.

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  92. I agree, I get lots of Eastern bloc pussy here in Toronto, Canada

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  93. oh.WOW!i like this article even if u missed out a few nationalities.all i wanna say is i’m romanian myself and i dont agree with everything.is a big difference between south and Transilvania(in romania).in the south and the rest they’re more spanish looking,and in transilvania..a totally different place.is a mix of romanian-hungarians,most girls beautifull,nice body and nothing like the 50’s..excuse me!russian girls are pretty to..i think they are materialistic like some romanians,i admit it..but how come u never mentioned british girls?i think uk is a disgrace for europe(i mean english girls)they’re fat,love getting super drunk and piss and shit their pants(seen it lots of times believe me),too loud,love getting fu…d!!!but that doesn’t mean they’re any good at it!

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  94. This summer my friend and I vacationed on the beaches of Romania … fantastic time!Most of the Romanian girls we met were very Spanish-looking, but uniquely Romanian in character. Last year we traveled to Moldova and had a blast. I’d have to say that I preferred the Romanian girls. They were a little more down to earth and not quite as materialistic. My only reservation is that in both countries, the women seemed almost desperate to leave. I still correspond with one girl from Romania. I plan to return and see where the relationship goes.

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  95. You are overrating Finnish girls

    * they are the 2nd most promiscuous in the world (http://www.bradley.edu/academics/las/psy/facstaff/schmitt/documents/Schmitt-BBS-2005-Sociosexuality-ALL.pdf)

    * they are the most sexually liberal in the world (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1090612/Now-Britain-leading-world–promiscuity.html)

    they are not LTR material

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  96. After reading the article on the most sexually promiscuous countries, I had to laugh at the tart from the UK. I’m sure everyone will remember the English woman who was criticizing us for our proclivity for Eastern European women. Well, according to the survey, the UK has the most promiscuous women … LOL! So much for her incessant rambling that all English woman are ladies and do not sleep around.

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  97. Hi half italian half welsh 26 year old here. Right…… Finnish girls are promiscous, that is very true, otherwise I had would not have an opinion, she had three different bf’s during the time I was sleeping with her. They can seems shy and ice queen ish, but have a wonderful sense of humour and are great fun, they value sex quite high as a priority! Portuguese girls I like, irrational, stand offish, crazy, but in bed omg, just so passionate and wild. Americans a little obvious, welsh girls party girls, they are like the lads, drinking and fighting no pretty normal in bed. Chinese so nice and demeure, do expect you to buy everything, wonderfully submissive in bed (plus I’ll never forget her reaction to first seeing my thing)lol. English girls bit boring. Now to Italian girls, I love them, the flirty banter, the way they get what they want, they passion, good kissers, and good at blowjobs. One advantage to british girls btw they do tend to swallow! Ciao

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  98. one question. why us men looking for east european girls.???
    do not You have your own girls in us ????

    at present, most of russian girls desire money and good life.

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  99. Gino … what’s wrong with US men dating women from other countries? for myself, I love the accent … LOL! Women are women and men are men. Rather than trying to understand them, just enjoy.

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  100. @vivek
    “Finnish girls make the best partners…”

    I doubt. They drink too much, act like bad behaving dude, and are F*** cold & num. They do way to much drugs and are super depressed -perhaps the cause is alcohol? I have been living almost 11 years in FInland and if not the excellent job I wouldn’t be here.
    Especially ever for woman.
    I had been dating in the few first years finnish women and believe me if you like sex or you like your woman to be sensual, hugging , or hot in bed etc.. you will never ever find it in a Finn.
    Their version of sex is mechanic. THey do a lot of one night stands. They are easy to get but will bore you to death with their lack of fantasy and humor.

    Finnish women as it was written previously by someone – don’t expect gifts, or paying for a dinner – neither practically anything from their men. DO what you want they won’t care.

    They will have sex with you just because they haven’t had any and cause they are bored, and also since they are bored it will be one of the most senseless sex episodes in your life I promise you! awch! But if you like bad quality one time sex with no strings attached, go for it. Use condom, they are naive and don’t do std tests- be aware.
    For quick fuck you will find loads of desperate ladies waiting for a package since their husbands/ men are not able to satisfy them. ( It’s all FINNS problem) .

    Another thing: Finnish women look all the same, smoke a hell of a lot, drink to puking state, overdose drugs, have weak characters, are not controlling their behavior, spit, curse, they are not family oriented, and most likely already FUCKED AT LEAST FEW OF YOUR BEST FRIENDS.

    so if you are a guy who likes challenges and classy, warm woman..
    RUN away quick!

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  101. You left out Aussie girls?!!

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  102. Spent a year or so in Estonia (split time ‘tween Tallinn & Tartu), and i can just say that you grossly exaggerate the hotness of Esti girls.

    Then again, you US guys have low standards.

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  103. Sickblogdude.com its all good

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  104. on March 26, 2011 at 5:25 am finnishprincess

    Sorry guys, I just had to put my comment here, because my dear Robert here is giving very bad impression of finnish ladies! 😀

    So Robert my friend….EXCUSEME but what kind of finnish woman have you met :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD I now feel like I’m definately not a finnish girl by your description you gave 😀

    U are living in some small town or what? You shouldn’t be so harsh on finnish women, saying that all are like that because it’s not true, any of my friends aren’t like that. You have just met the wrong ones, sorry dude 🙂

    Imma gorgeous, sexy finnish woman and I don’t do drugs, don’t drink alcohol (and if I drink, one is enough for me :DDD) and I am always very happy and smily and I love to get to know new people. I really don’t need any of the drugs for that. Believe me, I’m not the only one, I can say the same of all of my friends.And baby, you want a challenge? Try to get me, trust me…you won’t 😀 Not everybody here is so easy and low moral. But what you said about the sex… You definately have dated some of the worst finnish women……….

    The big problem in Finland, is that here is so freaking cold and the weather is depressing the most of times. But when it comes to summer, seems like the people here wake up and are very different : they smile, they are happy… The weather really affects on people! So the best time to get to know finnish people is definately summer 🙂

    In every country you find good and bad persons, I just don’t like the stereotypes, everybody is individual and have different backgrounds.

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  105. I do not think that anyone posting comments believes that all women from any one country are the same. We are commenting in general terms and primarily from our experiences. My point is it is foolishness for anyone to be offended by the remarks posted. I have had wonderful experiences with Russian, Ukrainian, and Belarusian women. So much so that I married a gal from Minsk. I am sure that there are men out there who have had bad experiences with women in the former USSR. As for the Scandinavian countries, I had a blast in Helsinki, Stockholm, and Copenhagen. I especially liked the gals from Denmark. So all I can say to the complainers is to chill out. If you don’t like the comments, perhaps this is not the blog for you.

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  106. on April 1, 2011 at 5:40 pm Jacobian Ruse

    I’m Chinese but I set the bed on fire, seriously.

    I am not loyal, I will play the role of the uncommitted until I truely fall in love. And when I do find that right person I want them to take care of me more than I do him. I hope your sweeping generalisations are tongue in cheek, because dude that is seriously misguided and unfair to all the ethnic ladies out there. It’s like horoscopes, sometimes the descriptions match but often than not they won’t.

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