Fake Gay Game

Never let it be said CH shies from bringing to the world the more devious applications of game. This example crops up in the player literature now and again: pretending to be gay to score same night lays.

If you’re the type of man who prefers winning to behaving ethically or manfully, you can’t go wrong with Fake Gay Game. But don’t whip yourself too hard for delving into the darkest of arts. All women are complicit in their seduction. Yes, even when they are seduced by men pretending to be gay. After all, she can leave his den of deceit any time. No one cuffed her to a bed post, or forced her to try and “convert” a gay guy.

Running a multinational corporation? No. Pretending to be gay? Now that’s how you bang out the modern American woman.





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  1. American women will fuck anyone who presents any sort of a challenge at all. They just seem to despise anyone who does not challenge them in any way.

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    • BTW… I never bothered to ask, but what is id?

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    • on October 20, 2013 at 1:41 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      zlzlozoozozoz

      da GBFM has gootetetenn laid many tiez by sayingz, “my cockas is so tiny that i bet you will laugh when you see it.”

      girl: “yah? watahya wanta bet?”

      GBFM: “if yu don’t laugh, i willz buy you dinnersz your chocie restauant. if you do laugh, you gotsas get your dinner out of my tiny cockas. my nickname in highschool was tiny tim, slim jim, and tomb thumb zlzlzlolzzo”

      so she goes “OKs.”

      so den da GBFM slowy shows it and. . . .

      she laughs and says, “hahahah my god dat is da biggerst cok i have ever seenz!”

      GBFM: “you laughed!” lzozozozo

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      • on October 20, 2013 at 4:55 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        zlozozozzozo

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        lzlozozozozoz

        someebeody calleedz and said dey was from ABC 20/20 TV Show or somebody and asked da GBFM if he wwnwtased to 2 do an inetevreiwsz about da MANOSPHERES!!!

        so da GBFM said yes i wann help you udneretdtsnad da MAONSPEHEREZ!

        so igetz da addressz studio addresszz and i put on my sunday best which is a semi-clean t-rshsit dat passed da smaell ytes tetszt.

        and when i get teheree tehy put hair and makeup on mez, and den someone pointsz out dat as da MANOPSEHERE is a WANTED group tdat dey would coencela my idientyytztz zlziz concel my identiety and disguiuse my voiceszz zlzozii

        den i went on da set and i swaer it did not feel like ABC 20/20 but more like ABC 69/69 zlzozo so maybe i got da message wrongz!!

        anywho da pretty hot hot reproetretette says, “SO TELL me GBFM about da manospheres. what is it and why should we carez?” loooozz

        so da GBFM leansz back in his chair and says:

        “DA FIRST THING DAT U MUST KNOW about da MANOSPHERE is dat there are TWO MANOSPHEREZ.”

        she goes, “yah ayah yah, and they are?”

        “DER ARE TWO MANOPSHERES, and den der is da ONE ENTITY TO LEAD THEM ALL.”

        she goes, “yah yah yah and so? please do tell!” She wanted da GBFM so babsda lzlzozozoz

        DA GBFM SAY, “DA FIRST MANOPHERE IS DA GBFM’S LEFT NUT,” And i shows her, “DA SECOND MANOPHERE IS DA GBFM’S RIHT NUT, and da TITULAR HEAD OF IT ALL IS DA GBFM’S LOTSAS COCKAS so let me put my head in yout titulars NOW zlzozlzozozoozozozozoz! lzozozlz”

        zlzlzozozozolzlzo

        and da GBFM was escorted out by two big unifomred menz,

        but later dat nightz she texted mez of coursez

        for she had seen da size and scope of

        da GBFM MANOSPHEREZ zlziz

        lzzuzkzlziuzlzlzzlzoozoz

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      • on October 20, 2013 at 4:56 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        as da two big uniformed men escorte dme out, da GBFM yelled,
        “MEGAN KELLY! I WANNA SEE MEGAN KEELLY I WANNNA EET MEGGAN KELLY I THOUGHT I WAS GONNA GETSZ @ MEET MEGAN KELLYZ!: :” as dey threw me on tda pavementz zlzozozozo

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      • Extremely funny, man.

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      • on October 20, 2013 at 6:25 pm Lucky White Male

        THE Fox Babe to bang is Jenna Lee on the 12 Noon

        Deliciously feminine and eminently fuckable

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      • your programming is complete

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      • You’re an idiot. Speak fucking English.

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      • on October 21, 2013 at 10:17 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        lzoozozl datsz wat i said to your mom when she had my cock in her mouthz beacuse she soundeds oculnd’t unsdetsertand her lzolzoz

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      • Eng fucking Speaklish

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    • > “American women will fuck anyone who presents any sort of a challenge at all. They just seem to despise anyone who does not challenge them in any way.”

      You know, you may have just hit upon a really important insight into how to intellectually “frame” the entire PUA/Manosphere point view: Just present a CHALLENGE to your prey.

      I’m not sure what it says about American women, though.

      I’ll need to think about that one.

      The fact that American women love a good challenge certainly speaks well of them, but I guess their biggest problem is that they don’t realize that by simply accepting the challenge, they immediately become the prey, rather than the predators which they had fancied themselves to be.

      And maybe that’s “Game” in a nutshell: Fool the would-be predator [predatress?] into becoming the prey, without her ever even realizing it.

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      • on October 20, 2013 at 2:35 pm FuriousFerret

        “I’m not sure what it says about American women, though.”

        That they are masculine and like to take on perverse roles for their sex.

        Also, a man that is a challenge is a high status one. Guys that actually turn down ONS from decent looking women are men that have options. It’s basic disqualification.

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      • “I’m not sure what it says about American women, though.”

        That they are masculine and like to take on perverse roles for their sex.

        Because American girls (and their Germanic forebears) are the feminine side of American / British / Germanic men, you know, the kind who took over the world. (Why do you think English is the world lingua franca, and not Chinese, Russian, or, for that matter, French?) They will have a more masculine attitude than other women, being more independent, more prone to obesity and feminazism, etc. etc.

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      • >”Because American girls (and their Germanic forebears) are the feminine side of American / British / Germanic men, you know, the kind who took over the world.”

        Wow, now that’s another fascinating insight.

        I gotta think about that one, too.

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      • More masculine men correspond to more feminine women, not more masculine ones. Your hypothesis is flawed.

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      • Naah, masculine men will have masculine daughters and sons–it’s why beauty doesn’t run in families quite so well.

        The genius of whites was an *intermediate* level of masculinity–macho enough to be more creative and aggressive than Asians, but not so macho we waste all our time fighting with each other like Africans. Jared Taylor and Philippe Rushton actually cover this pretty well.

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      • “but not so macho we waste all our time fighting with each other like Africans.”

        What was WWI and WWII then?

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      • “but not so macho we waste all our time fighting with each other like Africans.”

        What was WWI and WWII then?

        What dumbass states decide is not exactly the same as whites themselves constantly getting in fights. White street gangs are quite rare, for example.

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      • Sorry your comment is off-base. Where do you get this information. As an american living in Prague around all these “Germanic tribes women” female offspring your comment is such bullshit.

        The women out here are the pinnacle of natural femininity: ie sexually, physically built, and personality.

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      • Maybe it’s the more westerly-located Germanics, in Britain and the Netherlands.

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      • As “an american living in Prague” you do realize that your in the Czech republic? Making the women Czech? Ask a Czech if they are Germanic or read a street sign some time. It is a Slavic ethnic group…

        An example of bringing down the average American’s rep for being worldwise.

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      • Czechs have a lot of germanic ancestry, moreso than other Slavic groups (the Holy Roman Empire was headquartered in Prague for a while).
        According to Wikipedia, the DNA is about evenly split between Eastern (Slavic & Indian) and Western (Germanic and Celtic) groups.

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      • on October 21, 2013 at 12:59 am Eliezer Ben-Yehuda

        >> American / British / Germanic men, you know, the kind who took over the world

        then why are they utterly failing to protect the purity of their ethnic homelands? Why are the WOMEN of those countries now holding the testicles of those menfolk in vicegrips?

        We judge the cat by the number of mice it catches, not by how well it praises itself.

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      • on October 21, 2013 at 2:49 am Carlos Danger

        Because our culture has become Judaicized and they have been taught not to do so by their new masters. That’s why we’re here to revive that spirit of resistance and conquest.

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      • Carlos Danger

        Because our culture has become Judaicized and they have been taught not to do so by their new masters.
        ————————————————————————————————-

        can ni66ers use that excuse?

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      • Yeah, but it’s the CHALLENGE aspect which fascinates me.

        If “Challenger -vs- Challengee” is indeed the correct point of view, then it means that an American Woman will forsake something as almighty as “True Love” itself if only a greater “Challenge” were to appear in her life.

        Hell, maybe, deep down in their heart of hearts, it’s only men who can experience “True Love”.

        And maybe women realize that about us – that when you strip away all the testosterone and the peacocking and the ladder-climbing and the fist-fights and all the rest of the horseshit, it’s the men* who are really the softies.

        And it’s the women who are actually the cold, hard, calculating, steely, icy nihilistic monsters.

        I dunno, though.

        But something about that word, “CHALLENGE”, really got my attention.

        I need to think about this some more.

        *Well, at least the men who are not sociopaths.

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      • on October 20, 2013 at 3:11 pm FuriousFerret

        “Yeah, but it’s the CHALLENGE aspect which fascinates me.”

        Challenging Man = Extremely high status because he can afford to be picky. It’s not the challenge itself that is alluring, it’s the fact that man has the ability to be challenging. It’s just another high signal of alphaness.

        “If “Challenger -vs- Challengee” is indeed the correct point of view, then it means that an American Woman will forsake something as almighty as “True Love” itself if only a greater “Challenge” were to appear in her life.”

        True love only exists with a Challenging Man.

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      • > “True love only exists with a Challenging Man.”

        Well, yeah, that’s precisely the problem: The sentence is true, but it’s also utter gibberish.

        Which I guess would be a pretty good reflection of the underlying insanity of the female mind: With females, you can’t even get to “logic -vs- illogic” because before you get there, even the definitions of the most basic concepts, like “True Love”, are just complete nonsense.

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      • Yeah, but it’s the CHALLENGE aspect which fascinates me.

        Being a challenge is more important when dealing with Anglo women because of their independence. If you’re a challenge, you’re not obviously threatening their independence, unlike if you were to actually pursue them as seems to be the rule with, say, Latin women.

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      • That’s no news, though. Men are the romantics pretending to be realists, and vice versa. That’s how the fantasies get sold. There would be no other way. There could be no other way.

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      • > “Men are the romantics pretending to be realists, and vice versa.”

        Right.

        I think that that might be the truth of the matter.

        And if it is indeed the truth of the matter, then, at its heart, Game Theory can be summarized as little more than just the insight that MEN need to quit being such pathetic hopelessly romantic old fools, and that instead MEN need to wise up, and become much more like the cold, heartless, cynical manipulators whom they pursue – namely, WOMEN.

        And it dovetails nicely with what I was saying above about blurring the lines between predator and prey:

        1) Men are the romantics pretending to be the realists.

        TRANSLATION: Men are the natural prey who need to be taught [by Game] how to at least fake being the predators.

        2) Women are the realists pretending to be the romantics.

        TRANSLATION: Women are the natural predators who need to be fooled [by Game] into becoming the prey.

        At least in a “civilized” society.

        In a primitive society, consisting of nothing but cave men and cave women, YMMV.

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      • TRANSLATION: Men are the natural prey who need to be taught [by Game] how to at least fake being the predators.

        TRANSLATION: Women are the natural predators who need to be fooled [by Game] into becoming the prey.

        I think you mean this:

        TRANSLATION: Men are the natural prey who need to be taught [by Game] how to at least fake being the prey.

        …as opposed to trying to be thirsty predators, which is the usual problem that beta males have with women. And:

        TRANSLATION: Women are the natural predators who need to be fooled [by Game] into becoming the predators.

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      • Im a tall chap, and women say to me all the time that I’m very tall, then it opens it up for me to say yeah im not really into short chicks but your kinda cool. That in and of itself sets up the challenge frame. Its basically just teasing. You can turn anything around like this. Say shes blond say, well im kinda partial to redheads but you’re kinda cute. The only thing this doesnt work so well with is if they have kids, saying, im not really into chicks with children, but you’re kinda cute; will just piss them off. Though, if a chick is into a guy from the get go he can get away with presenting pretty rediculous challenges. So try it out… But whatever the challange is you have to leave a qualifier on the end of it, but the qualifier shouldnt be you are x or y, its kinda x or kinda y or a little x or a little y… Think of it as meeting them halfway. Plus if things get a little slow you can recall this reference frame and get them back on track, or as the way of the modern slut, you can tell if they are onto someone else. So it goes…

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      • Guys that actually turn down ONS from decent looking women are men that have options. It’s basic disqualification.

        I ran into an old friend last night who put a lot of things in perspective for me. I’ve known the guy for years, but I don’t guess I had ever seen the man at work in the field flirting with a girl before.

        Short, very fat, bald, about 50; the total antithesis of the red pill community idea that you have to work out and be in shape and be the best example of classical Greek manhood you can be. I follow him into the truck stop to the fuel desk to ask him a question about this drop, and find him talking to the fuel clerk, and inject myself into the conversation.

        It was a picture perfect example of all this crap I’ve been reading about and trying to practice for a year now.

        He’s all cool and laid back, the cute 20 year old girl is beet red and can’t hold eye contact with him while he flirts mercilessly, talking about getting her to rub her vagina all over the bills of lading so he has something to smell on the way home, and making a big goofy scene out of the whole thing; saying stuff that could get a man arrested, but in a totally disarming way.

        That guy is a fisherman who won’t eat fish for some reason. He loves to catch them, and reel them in, but he never eats one. Here is a man who loves young pussy, who remains faithful to a woman who has to be about 70 by now, and I’m relating this account, because I think the overall image he presents has a similar effect to gay game. He’s not going to eat the fish, he catches fish all day every day, and so he is unattainable. He has the most abundant abundance mentality I’ve ever seen in action, and the greatest presentation of outcome independence I’ve ever seen in action. Combine all this, and fish are jumping into his boat in scores and droves, and he scarcely has to touch a line or a hook.

        I’ve been thinking about him a lot. What’s so special about the 70 year old to a guy who loves to reel young pussy into his boat, who is so incredibly adept at it? I suspect my friend grew up as a goofy looking fat guy, and learned to be an entertainment monkey to disarm and charm, but buried deep in his psyche he knows his micropenis is nearly invisible beneath his gigantic pad of crotch fat, and he will be a disappointment once the clothes come off. This is only a working hypothesis, but it’s the only thing that makes any sense to me. My hypothesis is that if he started eating some of those fish, he’d find them chomping down on his minor member all night long, and quite happily.

        He has made is very apparent that in spite of how far I’ve come, I’m still much too up-tight and wooden. I get a little giggle and a glance down, he gets total body submission with the girl bent all the way into a praying posture with her face beet red, and the aroma of wet snatch detectable from five feet away.

        I’ve got to figure out how to combine his ease and charm with my ruthlessness and lack of morals. The real upshot for me in all this is the important takeaway message and observation that I was a lot more successful with women when I wasn’t available; when I was that guy who would flirt with no intention of going through with it, because I was faithful for some stupid reason.

        Me up for grabs is me exhibiting needy, desperate behavior that’s sabotaging everything I’m trying to do. I need to make myself unattainable.

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      • Challenging is not unattainable. Unattainable can be challenging. But challenging is not necessarily unattainable.

        It’s not impossible to get into Harvard, it’s just challenging.

        Fake it in the short term. Be it in the long term. Start working now.

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      • > “talking about getting her to rub her vagina all over the bills of lading so he has something to smell on the way home”

        Well, my first thought was that that was simply hilarious.

        And then my second thought was: Did men talk to women like that in 1800? 1850? 1875? 1900? 1910? 1920? 1930?

        Certainly by the 1960s, certain guys were probably getting pretty crude with the gals.

        But if you could go back in time, to, say, a village pub in 1700s England or 1700s America, would you hear English factory workers or American backwoodsmen being that vulgar to their women?

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      • No, Zombie Shane, and I really don’t have any hope of being like Larry, no matter how successful he is with girls I would like to woo. Part of why he is successful is because he is extremely comfortable being who he is. I am extremely comfortable being who I am too, and I don’t think I can ever get past being conscious of the image I cultivate to intentionally behave in such a boorish fashion. It’s just not going to work for me. (For instance, the way I just phrased all that; I just write as I speak, as I think, as I am.) I suppose it’s fair to say I’m something of a fop, and my problems with women not withstanding, I am quite fond of who and how I am. Combining my propensity for evil with my foppishness suggests that I aim along the lines of an Archibald Cunningham in Rob Roy.

        When he knocked up some serving wench who professed her love for him, he said, “Love is a dung heap, Betty, and I am but a cock who climbs upon it to crow.” When she informs him that she is pregnant by him, he replies, “Surely you can find an old crone with a twig to help you root it out.” If I aim somewhere in that direction, I can pull it off, and maintain congruency.

        Congruency is key.

        Off on a slightly different tangent, with respect to the question of making myself seem less available, I’ve been contemplating going in a different direction. Instead of hiding my fat wife in shame, distancing myself from her, and avoiding wearing my ring, perhaps I should make a public spectacle of being seen to be taken with her, and showering her with the kind of attention she craves. She wants me to love her, wants me to take a firm hand and fuck her like a whore, and wants to be seen as mine. I have always wanted to avoid being associated with her, because I wanted to seem available, but why not turn this unfortunate disadvantage around and make it work in my favor?

        I’m not available, and I’m perfectly happy with this beautiful “full figured” woman. I am well-dressed and interesting, while she is a fat boring slob wearing sweat pants and smelling of ass.

        It might work. Other hamsters might spin and think “What does that great guy see in THAT disgusting tub of guts?” and take it upon themselves to interfere with my monogamy. In fact, that used to happen, and I didn’t hit any of them up, because I actually did love my chubby wife once. Before she was my fat wife. I was like Larry, and just liked to fish, but always released what I caught.

        Ever since I took my handcuffs off and made myself available, I haven’t had shit for luck.

        Hmmm…

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      • on October 22, 2013 at 5:01 am The Burninator

        Ask Chaucer.

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      • “I’m not sure what it says about American women, though.”

        It simply means that the modern American woman (or even the one living in Hong Kong who has been tainted by the feminist “independence” conditioning) has such a lack of effective yardsticks to determine a man’s true worth that she’ll resort to the most primitive of them all… A feeling of challenge.

        Essentially, it doesn’t say all that much about the women. It says so much more about the men. If being challenging is the big differentiator, then it only demonstrates what a bunch of pancy little nancies most American males really are, in that they are so unwilling to end their persistent pursuit of (the same unwilling) pussy that the only man who doesn’t care becomes attractive.

        Women merely respond to men. When men became little boys, women became Mommy’s. And without Daddy’s around, very bad ones at that. So if women are responding to challenge more than anything else, it’s because challenge has become so much rarer. In yet other words, masculine men who wouldn’t stand for womanly hamsterbatory productions just don’t exist anymore in vast numbers.

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    • The fact that they wonder why men are increasingly shunning them in favor of non-Western women, not marrying at all, or the hook-up culture is indicative of how some (most?) people will only ever correct their behavior if they suffer real, tangible consequences.

      Reason doesn’t work, emotion doesn’t work, even personal experience doesn’t work, but suffering does. It’s like a cure-all for the emotionally and mentally stunted.

      A meta-crisis, in the form an economic downturn or a war, usually does the trick. Women are pragmatic that way. They desire a challenge because nothing in their lives today is challenging, not when the entire apparatus of Western civilization is geared towards making sure they only have goodfeels and comfort.

      That fake gay game can and does work on your typical, unthinking, all-feeling co-ed is simply one more indicator that Western civilization needs a purging fire.

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  2. What a load of crock. In a previous generation, this idiot would have been writing fantasy letters to Penthouse. All that mystic code bullshit is just code to prevent someone from discovering the con.

    “So I laid some patented IPL on her, followed by a little reworked HT (hey, it was Saturday, right?) and finished with a straight JK. Easiest lay of my life.”

    Seriously?

    (No, none of those “technique codes” mean anything; I made them all up, just like he did.)

    If anyone buys this nonsense, I have a bridge in Brooklyn that’s for sale, discount price, STG, INK.

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    • Does anyone pay any attention to your comments, you senile old fool?

      Seriously, why is a beta conservitard excuse for a male poasting on this site?

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      • “Does anyone pay any attention to your comments, you senile old fool?”

        – You just did.

        “beta conservitard excuse for a male”

        – Playground insults. About par for the course.

        Of course, I forgot: young men are the seat of all wisdom. Especially when it comes to seducing women, because they invented PUA. Jesus, how pathetic.

        I fond it interesting that any time someone steps outside the orthodoxy, out come the ad hominems. In this case, orthodoxy: all chicks fantasize about seducing a gay man. Wrong. It’s a male fantasy that all chicks fantasize about seducing a gay man. The reality, alas, is somewhat different: chicks like being BFF with gay guys, because the sex issue isn’t on the table and they feel more comfortable. Ask any decent sample of women instead of following the self-delusion.

        Here’s the interesting thing. I actually believe in a lot of the core concepts of Game, because they parallel my 40-odd years of experience with women. But I also have a keen nose for bullshit, and a lot of the so-called PUAs (our genial host being a notable exception) are full of it. Sorry if I burst the bubble occasionally, but somebody’s gotta do it.

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      • “Does anyone pay any attention to your comments, you senile old fool?”

        – You just did.

        “beta conservitard excuse for a male”

        – Playground insults. About par for the course.

        Of course, I forgot: young men are the seat of all wisdom. Especially when it comes to seducing women, because they invented PUA. Jesus, how pathetic.

        I find it interesting that any time someone steps outside the orthodoxy, out come the ad hominems. In this case, orthodoxy: chicks fantasize about seducing a gay man. Wrong. that’s a male fantasy that all chicks fantasize about seducing a gay man. The reality, alas, is somewhat different: chicks like being BFF with gay guys, because the sex issue isn’t on the table and they feel more comfortable. Ask any decent sample of women instead of following the self-delusion or relying on anecdotes.

        Here’s the interesting thing. I actually believe in a lot of the core concepts of Game, because they parallel my 40-odd years of experience with women. But I also have a keen nose for bullshit, and a lot of the so-called PUAs (our genial host being a notable exception) are full of it. Sorry if I burst the bubble occasionally, but somebody’s gotta do it or else we’d be drowning in PUA fantasies

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      • “- You just did”

        I didn’t read your comment, I saw Kim Du Retard, and decided it was time to straight you out.

        “- Playground insults.”

        You’re an old fag who should be beaten for traducing the memory of Steve McQueen.

        You have no idea how old I am, you retard elderly fool.

        I really don’t care about the subject at hand, but it is a fact that bisexual men get more women.

        Now you may have some nice memories to keep you company at your retirement community, along with those memories of reciting conservatard talking points at your second rate blog.

        It’s only matter till everyone catches on, but I thought I’d be the first to administer a boot to your posterior.

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    • What ARE you talking about?
      Not one acronym in the post but for the name of the site.

      Not even technical terms that aren’t self explanatory.

      If I wrote that i’d be feeling plenty stupid.

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      • It’s Kim du Toit, self-described ex-superblogger and insightful natural Alpha He-Man. He doesn’t have to make sense. It’s up to you to find meaning in his ramblings.

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      • “self-described ex-superblogger “

        Ex-blogger; yes. Superblogger, no way.

        I’ve never self-described myself as a superblogger. A superblogger would be someone like InstaPundit (many millions of visitors per annum). My little corner of the Internet only had a paltry 16 million discrete visitors over seven years of blogging. Look it up.

        “insightful natural Alpha He-Man”

        – “Insightful” – okay, I’ll cop to that.
        – “He-man” – generally, I’ve always thought that the term “he-man” is used as an insult by women and lesser men.
        – “Natural Alpha” – that’s redundant. Alphas are natural, almost by definition. PUAs are simply mimicking alpha behavior. I’ve never bothered with mimicking anything or anyone. I do what I do, and people (including women) either like it, or they don’t. Either way, I’m indifferent.

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      • Did you even follow the link? The fantasy poke was wall-to-wall acronyms. Hint: the greater the number of acronyms in a post, the higher the level of bullshit. Technical terms, my ass.

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      • Plus how hard is any of this, really? Any skank ready for a threesome with two strangers she just met is not much of a challenge. I can pick these girls out on sight. It’s not rocket science.

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      • You seem like an idiot, but I agree that this is a shitty Field Report.

        “On the way back, SHE STARTS GIVING BOTH OF US A HAND JOB AS WE’RE TEASING THE SHIT OUTTA HER. WTF. I’m driving bitch! Settle down lol. Then she starts licking my ear. I tease her that this is the first time I’ve been turned on by a girl and put her hand on my crotch so she could feel how hard she was making me.”

        That’s a flexible girl. And I’m not sure why you’d put her hand on your dick to show her how hard you are after she’s already been giving you a handjob.

        My red flags go up as soon as someone puts shit like “and then I use my patented 15 minute seduction technique I leaned from an ancient Tibetan monk with mysterious acronyms…oh did I forget to explain them to you? Don’t worry, once my “coming soon” sales page is up you, too, can purchase my patented 15 minute seduction technique!”

        Legit guys are happy to explain everything they do, minus specific wording that the girl could google. Even RSD gives away all their tech for free in their videos.

        I’m not saying the FR is fake or didn’t happen, but it’s not a good/useful FR and sounds more like a sales pitch or brag report by a guy with average game who’s lining up a sales site selling books and bootcamps.

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      • sounds more like a sales pitch or brag report by a guy with average game who’s lining up a sales site selling books and bootcamps.”

        Congratulations, YR. You just summed up 90% of the PUA websites in two dozen words.

        “I’m not saying the FR is fake or didn’t happen”

        And I am. YMMV (so to speak).

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      • Are you an Omicron or something? Look, if Nus want to pretend to be Lambda, it might eradicate every trace of Zeta in them by scoring a couple easy Upsilon pieces of ass. They’re not going to land Theta tang right in the beginning! But if they knock out a few Mus, maybe experiment on a the neighborhood gaggle of lonely Xis, before you know it they’ll make it to Gamma, or even Greater Gamma, like our host here.

        This place is so lousy with Etas and Psis in disguise, it’s a wonder anyone climbs up from Omega.

        Know the new lingo, dude. And thank me later.

        I agree — acronyms are so Beta they’re practically Delta! But Greek letters are a whole different kettle of ἰχθύας. They scream seriousness and authority and timeless knowledge.

        Matt

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      • I guess you can’t have your Pi and eat it too, then?

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  3. Interesting post.

    Was at a octoberfest last night, opened numerous sets with my wing man

    Mid conversation
    Girl: where are you from
    Me: I’m homeless. I live on his couch.
    Her: well u don’t look homeless, that’s a expensive looking shirt (200 plus shirt)
    Me: he’s my sugar daddy, he takes good care of me
    Her: lolzlolzzz

    and,

    Friends bought me a shot, so promo girl comes with big syringe with Jell-O shot and puts it in my mouth.

    Promo: I bet you were all surprised when I shoved it in your mouth
    Me: I love having large objects shoved in my mouth
    Her: lololzzlolz

    Yes, throwing out gayish lines does generate tingles, don’t know why. Perhaps it’s an understanding of their insane feminine hamster?

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  4. the epitome of ‘sneaky fucker.’
    isn’t there a species of cephalopod where some males mimic female coloration so they can get in close with the females and avoid male competition? i’ll see if i can find a source…

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  5. lemme tell you something. I befriended a gay guy, lived right down the street from me. I met and seduced more fucking girls through this guy lol, you wouldnt believe it. This is because:

    1.) He had tons of girlfriends.
    2.) He had a slight crush on me, and so i oddly came preselected in his gf’s minds.
    3.) There was this air of mystery if we were at the bars, and girls would wonder if i was possibly also gay. This sounds like a bad thing, but actually made for a super compelling mystery in their minds and it was almost effortless to seduce them in this context.
    4.) Once i banged one of his girlfriends, he naturally gossiped to his other girlfriends…which increased my allure.

    I have decent game, so this isnt like a cure all secret. But the access, combined with the infiltration of these girls social circle, combined with whatever confusion my hanging with a gay guy caused….i was on fire.

    However the guy was a psycho drama queen and i had to stop hanging with him, he got jealous and started spreading bad shit about my rep. There is something really repulsive about the drama of a woman coupled with the psyche of a man.

    Nothings free i suppose.

    But an interesting angle, if youre not completely homophobic.

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    • gay

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      • hey mock if you want i was rolling in pussy man lol. open your mind but not your butthole

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      • the other thing ill say is this. If this guys character is representative of gay men in general, and this is how the majority are as people, then i fucking hate gays. Like i said, despite the temporary benefits, this guy turned out to proactively try and mess up my reputation…he also told me alot of really disgusting shit he’d do for money, and how he’d con people and all sorts of shit.

        So afterwards i actually kinda see the merit in gay bashing. NOt that i was ever a lefty, im very far right. But if gay acceptance leads us towards celebrating the lifestyle of this type of person….then fuck that noise. Guy is a sociopath parasite.

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      • on October 21, 2013 at 5:58 am Hugh G. Rection

        I’d say you have a higher percentage of nutjobs among gays than among straight men, I think there’s even stats that prove it. Higher rates of drug abuse and suicide too. I think I’ve never met a gay man who wasn’t at least into coke occasionally.

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      • do those stats account for all the gay men who are “straight acting/looking?”

        Homosexuals are not the same as faggots.

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      • bingo on the drug use. this guy i think has slowed down a bit, but yeah used to do meth, coke all sorts of shit. the gay underworld is really a whole different universe, its actually kind of fascinating. Its disgusting, but i was pretty surprised at how there really is an entire subculture of gays and how they meet each other and all the kind of dysfunctional weird shit goes on. This was all relayed through stories that i honestly loathed hearing, but the stupid fucker never shut the hell up. Always going on and on about his past.

        I believe gayness a biological oddity. But it does make you wonder, why the fuck are there so many gays and what evolutionary purpose does it serve the human race that there would be such a genetic anomaly? Because gays cant spread their gayness genetically….so its not that the gay population sustains itself and multiplies in the way that betas or alphas pass on their genetic lineage. Perhaps it has to do with environmental factors, the health of the women bearing these children. Increasingly corrupted sperm quality of men…..siring dysfunctional children?

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      • on October 22, 2013 at 7:37 am Hugh G. Rection

        You can’t operate from a perspective that evolution is linear and always improving. It’s anything but, it’s a far more random process. So you’ll always have oddities like that.

        Maybe the lack of future orientation is a byproduct of that. Why care about reproductive fitness when you’re an evolutionary cul-de-sac? So you get all sorts of risky behavior, not only drugs but sex, often unprotected, with random strangers (darkrooms, glory holes the works), alcohol etc..

        They certainly know how to party.

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      • even gayer

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    • > “and so i oddly came preselected in his gf’s minds”

      OMFG.

      LOL’ed.

      Dude, you’re playing fire, man.

      You’re playing with fire.

      Better stock up on the Preparation H:

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      • the preselection was more that he would talk about me and build me up to his gf’s minds, and then theyd already be intrigued. Hey i just had something funny to relate on the subject of gayness, i never took it up the ass or pretended to be a queer lol. this isnt a lifestyle for me haha just a funny observation. i was unstoppable for a stretch there. not suggesting this ought to be a strategy. but hey, befriend some gaylord and watch how girls effortlessly float in and out of your life.

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    • Ha. I’ve recently befriended an attractive lesbian (or rather she befriended me… it’s somewhat vague on who hit up whom here), and a very similar dynamic seems to be playing out.

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    • “There is something really repulsive about the drama of a woman coupled with the psyche of a man.”

      They have all the negative qualities of women without the only redeeming one. A vagina.

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      • They have all the negative qualities of women without the only redeeming one. A vagina.
        —————————————————————————————————

        But not when they are in a group; gay men are still men, they know how to get things done; but yeah, an individual faggot can be very annoying, shallow, vain…

        just like a woman.

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      • that was the most striking thing i observed. id never known a gay dude personally, but that at the end of the day, they are still men. So they can be aggressive, dominant, but also completely illogical, shallow and manipulative like women.

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  6. on October 20, 2013 at 11:42 am JustGotToGetIt

    no, i actually just have to get what i want.

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  7. Is pretending to be gay really that unethical? I can’t stand guys who lie about relationship status (or relationship willingness) to get girls into bed, but I don’t think pretending to be gay is so awful. She’s agreeing to a ONS with a guy who she *thinks* is totally unavailable to her. This is obviously not a woman who is looking for a relationship, so I don’t see why it’s a big deal.

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    • See how a woman’s mind works, boys?

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    • on October 21, 2013 at 4:41 am The Burninator

      If your ethical code states that lying is wrong, then yes, in fact, it’s unethical. There is no one universal ethical code, so your results may vary. Generally though, most codes (not all, most) call for honestly. So yes, unethical most of the time.

      Situational ethics as you display are wholly feminine in nature. Men with a moral code against such a thing would be advised to follow their code and find better ways to score chicks. It’s not as if there are no other ways after all.

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      • on October 21, 2013 at 6:04 am Hugh G. Rection

        So then is the question, why follow a moral code at all?

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      • Situational ethics? Lol. I wondered how unethical this particular fib really was in comparison to lies that manipulate girls to do things they wouldn’t otherwise have done. This girl didn’t have sex with them because of the lie, so is it as harmful as a lie that convinced her to do it?

        Or maybe you are one of those absolutists who think white lies are just as bad as malicious ones. Meaning, I guess, that you won’t hesitate to tell mom you hate the present she gave you, or if your girlfriend’s rear looks fat in those jeans. Right?

        It’s always interesting how you’ll meet people on the internet who swear they never ever ever lie… even white lies!… and yet they rarely exist in real life.

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      • on October 22, 2013 at 5:03 am The Burninator

        To keep from falling into complete degeneracy and ending up living in a cardboard box under a bridge, I suppose. There are worse fates than having ethics, despite what the Left tries to sell you.

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    • No, pretending to be gay is not unethical. If you can do that it actually means you are smarter than most men who are scared to be seen as gay.

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  8. That’s nothing. Try laying some Grandpa Game on ’em. Go ahead and laff you punks.

    The pros know how it works.

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    • Back in the old days I used to walk uphill in the snow both ways and fight bears with only my fists.

      You ain’t nothing lass.

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    • Do explain. I seem to be doing best with girls in their early 20s, and I’m in my early 30s. By the time they get near my age, they’ve been in at least one LTR — or marriage — and are old and hard, if you catch my drift.

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  9. What, you thought girls seeking sugar-daddies were in it for the money?

    LMAO.

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  10. Looks like church girl has fallen for me, as have others. I’m playing this long. A church Harem. Look ma, I’m on top of the world!

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    • Yo, dude, it’s not cool to pump-n-dump a church girl.

      Pump-n-dump all the whores you want.

      But that church girl needs some buns in her oven.

      SRSLY.

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      • church girl likely the biggest whore of all and committing the biggest sin….self deception.

        never never LTR a churchgirl

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      • i’ve never gotten more quickly-accelerating escalation than with girls from church. just full-screen pink and a message “is this too much?” 🙂

        however, i won’t let zb down on the procreation front. eventually. so far just one as a donor.

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  11. ” All women are complicit in their seduction.” Damn straight. It takes two to tango. I have no more pity for women who get cheated on or abused by their bf, baby daddy, or husband. These broads new who these guys were when they got together; and what’s more they LIKED it.

    But now that the dream is over, they want to burst into tears put all the blame and lies on the scumbag and have some manboob/taxpayers play captain save-a-ho. They are incapable of seeing that the jilted lover of some scum-bag (if in fact he is one) is also a scumbag.

    Women are solipsistic-projectionists, to coin a phrase.

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  12. on October 20, 2013 at 2:01 pm themaskandrose

    This goes well with Tyler Durden’s classic post on the Secret Society. Some of the best seducers I know hunt in gay clubs, where the assumption is that he’s gay. Not only because they’re in gay clubs, but because they’re European, and they’re all kind of fruity that way. Apparently the women there have their guards way down, AND they’re jealous that their gay friends are getting laid so they’re pretty easy.

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  13. http://www.creators.com/comics/one-big-happy/111731.html

    Hardly up to CH standards of shivving, but I’m surprised to see a syndicated comic strip call out fatties and feminazis. Worse, it appears to depict a wholesome, non-broken white family reminiscent of a better era, which I bet keeps leftoids awake at night trembling with rage.

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  14. It doesn’t matter what con game you run on them.

    If they want you to butthex them with your cocka…they’ll rationalize any way to get it as long as you are a smooth talking serpent.

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  15. I’m a straight male virgin in my 30s with social anxiety disorder. Some people have questioned my sexuality since they always see me “ignore” women or act disinterested in them. They think I’m gay. In actuality I just hate them, I’m afraid of them, and I try to reject them before they reject me. That’s my defense mechanism.

    I have hang ups about sex (more on that later), and if a woman wanted to fuck me I would be really shy and insecure about it since women still expect the man to initiate and take the lead role (which I clearly can’t).

    The only way I’m comfortable getting laid at this point is if a woman knows I’m a fucked up virgin with sexual hang ups and SHE does all the work. And we all know this rarely exists in nature.

    I’m wondering if fake gay game might be the easiest way for me to get laid.

    If I play a fake gay character, I immediately disqualify women and get them to chase me and since I’m playing a character I get to easily shed the shitty self image that I currently have and can make up whatever one I want.

    The only problem with this scenario is that sexually experienced gay men who want to try sex with women won’t act like straight nerdy high school virgins whenever they see a naked woman. So I’m still fucked.

    I don’t know what options I have at this point. Is there any way I can take short cuts to getting laid (I know, the long answer is no). Can I go to cougar bars and try getting average looking women in their 40s? Are there good looking (or decent looking) older women who will take care of a sexually fucked up younger virgin with low self esteem?

    And to top of all off I’ve got a small dick. If I drop down to 10% body fat it’s 5″ erect. Right now it’s about 4″. You guys don’t know how fucked up it is to have a small one. It’s always been an issue for me.

    I recently went for a testicular cancer screening and I had to ask for a male technician (after they gave me a female tech), and he proceeded to quietly restrain himself from laughing as he did the exam, and after it was over he went to his curious female coworkers in the next room and collectively laughed about it (I heard them as I was leaving).

    I really am in a fucked up situation. If there’s any good news to this, it’s that I’m a good looking guy, but that’s about it.

    If any of you thinks this is a troll, go fuck yourself. This place is pretty much all I have left, and I can’t talk to anyone else about this.

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    • on October 20, 2013 at 2:48 pm Greatest Beta

      I don’t know what options I have at this point. Is there any way I can take short cuts to getting laid (I know, the long answer is no). Can I go to cougar bars and try getting average looking women in their 40s?

      This is your best bet to get in the game, Cougars will simply fall in your lap. If you are good looking as you say simply dress nice, stand by the bar, wait til a cougar with a buzz hits on u then simply talk little, smile as much as possible and let the magic work itself out.

      With re to the 4 incher if no troll then it is what it is. Women are into toys so u can bang them with the smaller member then ram them with the toy fuck it.

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      • This is your best bet to get in the game, Cougars will simply fall in your lap. If you are good looking as you say simply dress nice, stand by the bar, wait til a cougar with a buzz hits on u then simply talk little, smile as much as possible and let the magic work itself out.

        I can barely hold conversations in general, have social anxiety disorder, and I’m generally hateful towards women, so I don’t know how I’m supposed to chat people up if I’m a creepy asshole.

        I still want to get laid though, and I definitely like older women more than young girls because they’re much “nicer”. If I could get laid with a a good looking woman in her late 30s, 40s, or if she’s still hot early 50s I’d take it in a heartbeat.

        With re to the 4 incher if no troll then it is what it is. Women are into toys so u can bang them with the smaller member then ram them with the toy fuck it.

        I wish I was trolling. Packing 4 inches. 5 inches if I was a 10% BF. You guys don’t know how lucky you are, I’d kill to have an average 6″ inch penis. I can’t even imagine the logistics of having sex with a woman. It’s just too fucking small, how is she supposed to get any fun out it? The only way there’s any penetration is if she sits my lap and grinds, it’s too small for thrusting. I can’t imagine how regular people do it in the positions you see in porn.

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      • is this thwack?!?!?

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      • is this thwack?!?!?

        No, you wood packing non-virgins, I am not “thwack”.

        I’m a bitter, self-loathing virgin in my 30s with a super small cock. Enjoy your big dicks you savages.

        Be lucky you’re not me. Be lucky.

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      • Sorry if you’ve been over this before, but why not use prostitutes for practice? Using protection of course. You’ll feel more confident with practice; it doesn’t matter much who the girl is.

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      • If not thwack then Matt, that’s GOT to be you.

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      • i have a buddy with your endowment. it’s not optimal, but it no longer holds him back. you feature what you can and gloss over the rest. you can definitely do this. he’s been with enough women to know it just doesn’t matter _that_ much.

        if you want to change that part you can try ‘exercising the penis’ by aaron kemmer, but it is a time commitment. good book regardless.

        but still the main this is your attitude probably. if you truly do dislike girls then you ought not care what they think of you, and you can probably rationalize using rote script material as an ‘experiment’. so do it, the chicks are guinea pigs, and if you do it as described in most approach literature, it will get you laid.

        barring that, any reason why a prostitute couldn’t get you over the hump? fun, relaxing, non-judgmental, who cares who’s your first?

        good luck man

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    • And to top of all off I’ve got a small dick. If I drop down to 10% body fat it’s 5″ erect. Right now it’s about 4″. You guys don’t know how fucked up it is to have a small one. It’s always been an issue for me.

      Go after short/Asian chicks.

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      • Go after short/Asian chicks.

        This is why I’m into short petite women, but in the end I don’t see them enjoying my worthless 4 incher anyway.

        There are many girls in porn who are 4’11”-5′ and 85-95 pounds who take 9+ inch dicks regularly. I’m still fucked.

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      • There are many girls in porn who are 4’11″-5′ and 85-95 pounds who take 9+ inch dicks regularly. I’m still fucked.

        Porn stars != most girls. Their career (such as it is) involves taking the biggest dicks in their twats (and other orifices) they can. Most women aren’t that stretched out, if you catch my drift.

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      • on October 21, 2013 at 4:15 am Imperial Leather

        why are you still doing everybody’s thinking for them….about who you are and what you have

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      • They’re just as big a freaks as the men who are doing them.

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      • Stop watching porn.

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      • +1. This too.

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    • you should try jelqing for them gainz, brah. I’m serious. Many guys abide by this.

      I agree with the commentor above, just go for asian chicks. Also, if you really want to make her have a pleasurable experience; just go in raw. you might catch something eventually but judging by how down you are on yourself, you need a shock to your system to wake the fukc up from your self loathing.

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    • on October 20, 2013 at 5:35 pm FuriousFerret

      What ever happened the time honored tradition of prostitution?

      It can even been done legit if that’s what you are worried about. Amsterdam or Nevada can provide for you.

      There’s no shame in going to hooker. Men have been losing their v cards for centuries. Hell a lot them were taken there by their fathers to just get it over with.

      A good rule of thumb:

      If females and leftards are against a certain action/ideasl then it probably has a useful application somewhere in someway.

      “I can barely hold conversations in general, have social anxiety disorder, and I’m generally hateful towards women, so I don’t know how I’m supposed to chat people up if I’m a creepy asshole.”

      Classic case of pussy on pedestal. Etch this into your soul. You are better than every single woman on earth. Why? Because you were born to the glorious male gender. Every woman is ultimately inferior to you.

      Now with that out of the way you don’t have to hate them anymore. You only hate things that have some type of equal/higher status or power as you do.

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    • I have been in your shoes.

      Attack, attack, attack.

      Yeah, you are not a special and unique snowflake. You are not a natural 10. You are not Brad Pitt. Who cares. You have one advantage your female counterpart does not…you are the initiator. You have as many tries as you want. The only way to lose for sure is not to (p)lay.

      I will leave the specifics and the suggestions of target (many of them quite useful) to the experienced Gamers here, but…the way to get used to rejection is to be rejected. So go out there and get rejected by 100 women.

      Attack, attack, attack.

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      • the other _huge_ advantage is you basically know your issues. and you know it’s you not them. you can control you. a million resources, you don’t sound short on smarts necessarily, so get to it. you won’t regret it. even with herpes i’m betting you wouldn’t regret it.

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    • For your own good:

      1. Quit measuring your prick, quit thinking about it. It’s not helping you. If you’re going to think about it, think positively. You know who has a tiny todger? Mick Jagger. That’s a guy with nothing to complain about.

      2. Get some dumbbells and start working out. A short routine is all you need. Just lifting the weights over your head will make you feel better. It will boost your testosterone and your confidence. It will help you diet and eventually lose weight. It will improve your overall mood.

      3. Stop identifying so strongly with your pathologies and shortcomings. That’s not who you are.

      4. Forget about older women. Half your age plus 7. Set your sights on women you can picture making you happy. Don’t get desperate.

      5. Get good at something. Hell, even a half-assed guitar player can use that to his advantage. Second rate poets get laid all the time. All the fucking time. Or learn enough astronomy to impress a date.

      6. Lay off the porn. It’s distorting your perceptions and your expectations, as well as wasting your time.

      7. If you know your disdain for women is a self-defense mechanism, break it. Find something to like about women and concentrate on that.

      8. Prostitutes are pretty fucking far from ideal, but in light of your desperation I’ll say this: look for a girlfriend experience (gfe) or at least somebody whose smile makes you feel at ease. You want somebody to be nice to you, and there are some professionals who offer that. Caveat emptor: they’re in it for the money.

      9. Forget about what you imagine would make you feel comfortable, because it’s not making you happy. Learn to dance and think of that as a metaphor. It’s sometimes awkward, never exactly comfortable, and generally enjoyable.

      10. If you’re going to play a character, don’t play gay unless that’s what you really want. If you want to be a stud, play a stud. It doesn’t matter that it seems improbable now. You need to build up your inner game before trying anything like this fake gay shit.

      Good luck.

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    • honestly, spend top dollar on a clean escort such that you can realize pussy ain’t shit really (+ will work w/ your virgin weirdness for $), find a shrink to prescribe an anxiolytic and identify the root of your malady, stop worrying about dick size (with today’s N counts, she will nearly always have had bigger),read karma sutra to max techniques for small pen0r, hit the gym to get your testosterone up, continue to bank at whatever your vocation is, recognize you’re gonna die sooner than not and it would really suck if you spent the whole time being a listless mangina

      or, become ordained in the cloth so you can default on your failures in the name of heyzeus

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      • ”spend top dollar on a clean escort such that you can realize pussy ain’t shit really (+ will work w/ your virgin weirdness for $)”

        Very bad advice. It’s only worthless losers who pay for sex. Not to mention it’s disgusting. If he does this his chances of finding love will only get smaller..

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    • on October 21, 2013 at 9:26 am RappaccinisDaughter

      Dude. Relax about your dick. I mean that. My guess is, you’ve been watching too much pr0n and you think everybody out there is swinging 9″ of tubesteak. Take it from a slut: They’re not. You are *totally normal.*

      Women are really only sensitive for about the first 3″ of depth. After that, there’s still sensation, but it’s not as intense. Plus, anything that goes too deep will hit the cervix, which is actually quite uncomfortable or even painful. Imagine getting punched in the stomach…from the inside. Not fun.

      The best sex I have ever had was from a guy who had MAYBE four inches. He might not have had quite that much. Oh, and he was chubby, too; probably about 25 lbs overweight. And it wasn’t just because he was good at oral—although that sure didn’t hurt—it was because he knew how to move and there were a bunch of positions we could do that would have hurt if he were bigger.

      That tech was probably not even laughing about you. (And if he was, it was because you were so self-conscious that you wouldn’t let a female tech look at you. Not because of your size.)

      And yes, there are decent-looking older women out there who would love to show you the ropes. Women who keep their weight down and take good care of their skin can be attractive past 25, regardless of CH orthodoxy. Hit a cougar bar and play “wounded lamb” game; you’ll be swimming in it.

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      • “Take it from a slut: They’re not. You are *totally normal.*”

        LOL. You were supposed to write me your memoirs in “The confessions of a Debauched Slut.”

        What happened? Still waitin’

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      • on October 21, 2013 at 10:51 am RappaccinisDaughter

        Well, I’m lazy, but based on this tracking device the CDC has on my ankle, my guess is that they’re going to be putting something together.

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      • LOL 😛

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      • CDC? If the CDC has you, it’ll be on Google soon. The fucking government for you.

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      • on October 21, 2013 at 11:07 am RappaccinisDaughter

        Never has a gerund been more artfully deployed.

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      • Plus, anything that goes too deep will hit the cervix, which is actually quite uncomfortable or even painful. Imagine getting punched in the stomach…from the inside. Not fun.

        But pain is the point.

        Where is your sense of romance? There are many kinds of pain, spanky, and I mistook you for a connoisseur. The dull, growing jackhammer throb against the core of your womanly being is not the same as, say, pushing a wasp nest through your baby box. The difference between “discomfort” and controlled discomfort is control — who has it, and what he’s doing with it.

        Pain is an instrument of dominance — perhaps the instrument of dominance — particularly pain internal to the woman, where so much of the magic happens.

        Further, size does not just mean length but gauge.

        Props for helping an insecure brother out, but your maternal pity and truth-softening does more long-term damage to his manly frame of mind than the blunt force trauma my cock would do to your ladybits. All things equal, it’s good to be the BSD.

        What you should have told him is to get over himself. It’s like short guys all up in their own heads about their little man syndrome. You own what you are — even brag about it — and thereby redefine expectation. Women want men who can turn forcibly their reality inside-out. The micropeen is not his problem; it’s the loss of self-possession that is holding him back. If he didn’t have a cock smaller than Jonah Falcon’s, he’d find something else to justify his cringing-pussy approach to the world.

        Stop tip-toeing, son! Put on some boots and start stomping around. Your cock will grow three sizes that day.

        Matt

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      • on October 21, 2013 at 12:37 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        Matt, I know it’s going to be very difficult for you to admit this, but there are some matters about which I know more than you do. The question of what it feels like to take a prick is, I should hope, among them. And even if you do have more experience on the receiving end of the sexual transaction than I’d imagined, you do not have a cervix. I do.

        I do not offer maternal pity, because I have none to give. All I have to offer is the truth, which is that a four-inch tallywhacker is not the handicap he seems to think it is. You’re correct that he’s using it as a note from his mother to excuse him from gym class. I’m the jaded coach telling him to tape it up, take a Motrin, and go play through it.

        As to your discourse about how much I’m supposed to enjoy pain and being dominated, I’m afraid I have no choice but to conclude that you’re projecting your desires onto me. But that’s OK.

        Come, kiss my boots of shiny shiny leather, shiny leather in the dark.

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      • Do you like to get spanked or choked, Miss Projection Detective?

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      • on October 21, 2013 at 3:37 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        I don’t know, Mr. Begs the Question…how long have you been beating your wife?

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      • Sister, you’re making no sense now.

        I haven’t begged any question, and I’m not presuming your condition by virtue of my inquiry. You’re sending us on a tangent by pretending I’m projecting.

        I merely asked you to clarify your understanding of the difference between types of sexual pain. You are throwing up radar chaff.

        You are often an exception to the “never reason with women” rule. What gives this time? Medication, menstruation, what?

        Don’t hate me because I’m cockiful.

        Matt

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      • on October 22, 2013 at 10:46 am RappaccinisDaughter

        Fine, be no fun.

        I’ll answer your question straightforwardly, then. A little slap and tickle in mid-coitus, sure, that’s fine. It doesn’t really hurt to have one’s hair pulled or to receive an open-handed slap across the ass.

        Choking, no. I’ve had throat surgery and one of the structures that supports my airway has been compromised. It looks normal from the outside, but unless I want to spend a few weeks with a trach, I can’t allow any significant pressure there.

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      • “Take it from a slut”

        Don’t condemn your self for loving too much. It is not your fault bad man took advantage of you and did not commit after you gave them what they wanted. You were just looking for love. Please don’t call your self a slut. That is a term that Patriarchy wants you to use. You are a women and your past is your past and nobody’s business. It doesn’t make you any less of a person. Hopefully you can find a nice man that can appreciate you for who you are. A lot of women have done that and married betas in their mid 30’s. You can always reminisce about the fun times you had with alphas and listen to Kate Perry’s “The one that got away”. While the beta husband is at work.

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      • on October 21, 2013 at 12:57 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        Not bad, but you lose points for the use of the word “beta” (which you rarely hear at all outside the manosphere), and for failing to hit the “you go girl! Own it! We’re taking that word back!” talking point.

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      • Unrepentant, but with a sense of humor.

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      • Another day, another argument with Mr. Contrarian King, himself.

        p.s. this Patrice guy is a troll. Save your energy. If he’s legit, I think YaReally gave him the best advice possible, but he ignored it as if he received no help. He has everyone agitated by his “predicament”, while he’s LLOL. He’s playing the weirdo virgin, like some lowlifes play gay to get sex from loserish women. Just not buying it after his latest outbursts.

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      • on October 22, 2013 at 7:40 am RappaccinisDaughter

        Yeah, that occurred to me, but I figured that even if he was a troll, there might be others reading who have the same anxieties. If I could help anybody feel better about that, I should go ahead and try. So, just on the off-chance:

        True Story, Bros: You’re actually better off being on the small side than being too big. If it’s bigger than my thumb, I can work with it. But if you’re hung like a donkey, you’re going to frighten me off. I have literally run away, holding my shoes in one hand and tripping over my jeans while I try to haul them up with the other, from guys who were too big.

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      • You have a touch of the princess syndrome, antisize queen. Sex is not primarily about you or your pleasure. It is about the pleasure you derive from pleasuring me.

        The irreducible, incorrigible feminist in you makes you fussy fussy fussy about sexual detail, which is why speaking softly and carrying a big dick is so effective on checklist chicks like you. It forces you to focus on the one big thing, rather than the million little diversions speeding through your noggin; you miss the forest for the tree trunks.

        There are so many ways to go with a girl “literally run[ning] away, holding my shoes in one hand and tripping over my jeans while I try to haul them up with the other.” Fear of the quarry, thrill of the chase.

        Hasn’t just hanging around this place made you skeptical of what you, a woman after all, soberly regard as your preferences in the light of day?

        Matt

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      • on October 22, 2013 at 11:04 am RappaccinisDaughter

        Ah, you must have missed the day in class when I gave my PowerPoint presentation on the joys of blowjobs. See what you get when you give the comments section a miss, Matt?

        You also must have missed the meta- and subtext on my above commentary. Allow me to repeat it: I. Am. An. Unrepentant. Slut.

        I’ve been there, done that, and I’m not sorry. I don’t bother to pretend to like things I don’t like, or that I don’t like things that I do like. I don’t need to lie to myself about what I want out of sex.

        I know; I know. You don’t believe me. You may consider yourself a contrarian, but you’ve swallowed the “women don’t know what they want” trope hook, line, and sinker. But it doesn’t matter. Underestimate me at your own risk.

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      • What’s your N count, RD? Maybe you could help Patrice out?

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      • on October 22, 2013 at 11:39 am RappaccinisDaughter

        Well, anonymous, as far as the N count…that all depends on what the meaning of the word “is” is.

        As far as helping Patrice out, well, I’ve done that before, too. I actually mentioned having taken an involuntary celibate’s v-card off of his hands on this blog a few months ago. Matt King, among several others, about lost his MIND. Holy shit, the rage. You would have thought I’d admitted to murdering babies in their cribs, based on the reaction.

        Not that that would be the thing that would stop me. Patrice’s attitude would. My incel friend was a sweet, gentle man who liked me as a person and treated me with respect. Sleeping with him was easy, natural and fun. Patrice doesn’t seem to like women very much in general, and I doubt he’d like me in particular.

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      • Underestimate me at your own risk.

        Risk of … what exactly? I wish you’d present some genuine “risk”!

        I would never gainsay your “unrepentant slut” self-classification. No one was fooled otherwise. Methinks perhaps the sloot is protesting too much. Anyway, you are one more hooker with a heart of gold, so what.

        I have not “swallowed” any “trope hook, line, and sinker.” I have observed it in life.

        And in you I observe it again as you attempt to explain your Princess NAWALT exception to the trope by going all over the map depositing answers to unasked questions and arguments about irrelevant topics. Why are you trumpeting your strumpeting now?

        I didn’t exactly challenge your authority to declare your Yays and Ughs about sexual practices so much as I dismissed them as pointless trivia unimportant to the dynamic — i.e., the masculine pleasure that must obtain to complete the sexual transaction. Is the orgasm that accompanies the ejection of sperm a biological necessity or just a mere “trope” designed to irritate precious little you?

        Matt

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      • on October 22, 2013 at 4:10 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        You said sex wasn’t primarily about me or my pleasure. I said, “You must have missed the part where I talked about liking to give blowjobs.” Blowjobs are all about the pleasure of giving pleasure.

        You said, “Hasn’t hanging around this place made you skeptical of what you, a woman after all, soberly regard as your preferences in the light of day?” And my answer to you is no, because I’ve had enough experience to know exactly what my preferences are.

        Since you seem to require clarification on this point: What I meant by “underestimate me at your own risk” is as follows. Reducing any argument that goes to the contrary of the orthodoxy to an acronym (“NAWALT!”) or a shopworn metaphor (“SPIN, HAMSTER, SPIN!”) is a form of intellectual laziness that will cripple your ability to process reality the same way physical laziness would cripple your ability to complete a 5K without a Rascal scooter.

        In short, I like small dicks, and I cannot lie.

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      • @RD

        “I like small dicks”

        Haha……I think you’ve horrified Matt.

        Bottom line, do you know what I took away from your exchange with Mr. Contrarian besides you liking small peens and being an unapologetic slut (and I say it lovingly)?

        1) that he wants us to know he has a big peen
        2) he thinks sex is first and foremost about the masculine pleasure, regardless of the woman’s wants
        3) he likes to inflict pain since that’s how he gets off.

        LOL. It’s Matt’s self-revelation.

        More to the point though, I think many dominant men like to inflict some pain during sex, as it helps them get off, since inflicting pain is a form of power.

        Similarly, for the woman, the opposite reaction – conquest and submissiveness during sex (maybe through receiving pain) – gets her off, since it’s a form of being overpowered.

        I also think it’s a matter of taste. Some women are clearly not into that type of sexual play, or into very dominant men. Maybe, it’s how women who like gay men could be explained. Such women like gay men because they are less frightening. Maybe, subconsciously, this type of woman believes gay would be more into asking and trying to please her in a friendly manner, or as a curious exercise, and less likely to dominate and inflict pain, especially deep inside her, since being that far inside for some men is a sign of power, control, and conquest, and for some women is a sign of physical defeat they don’t like.

        See, such futile exchanges still yield some insight. I think it’s the only explanation why some women are into gay men – they don’t feel threatened or subjugated when with them.

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      • on October 23, 2013 at 9:25 am RappaccinisDaughter

        And as a corollary to your observations from this exchange, Lily, I’d like to offer some observations gained via the above-referenced sluttitude:

        1. Any time a man feels the need to notify you ahead of time about how huuuuge his wedding tackle is, that is your sign that he gives lousy head.
        2. A man who thinks that sex is first and foremost about masculine pleasure is a man who has never been able to provide feminine pleasure.
        3. A man who cannot get off without inflicting pain is a man who will escalate his sadism outside the bedroom, and soon.

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      • LOL!
        Let’s see what Matt has to say in his own defense. Haha…..I’m almost positive he won’t like this.

        BTW, I think for #3, he said as much in his various hints. Unless, I misunderstood him.

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      • My Dear Sweet Sluts,

        I am not sidling up next to you in a bar. I am speaking conceptually, in writing, on a website. You can draw no conclusions about my need to inflict pain (or the size of my cock) when I am presenting a rhetorical case. I know how hard it is for proud sluts to detach themselves from the flirt dynamic, but please do try, as it is not germane here.

        Experience impinges on conceptual argumentation, of course, but don’t mistake it as dispositive in itself.

        Anyway. If you are nimble enough to switch between the abstract (male) and the peculiar (female) modes, we might get somewhere.

        My main thrust was to have you acknowledge that your admittedly outre preferences do not define femininity per se. Masculine pleasure is biologically crucial to the sexual transaction, and feminine is not. Women (but perhaps not Rapp, I rush to say!) like to be dominated, and pain is a primary instrument of domination.

        This is very separate from my desire to fuck ornery know-it-all cryptofeminist sluts like you into enlightenment, though related. I can keep particular emotions separate from general thinking — and I think you can too, judging by your manliness.

        If you might abstract yourself from your preferences and desires for a moment, consider this: a good fuck would clarify things in a way a thousand internet posts never could. For men who know what they are doing, and for women who know how to take it, the thump against your cervix is where the abstract meets the particular and we open the opportunity to synthesize the experiential with the conceptual.

        But, considering that we will never meet, suffice it to imagine the possibility. I know no other reliable way to knock a snooty sloot back into reality, except physically. Speak a girl’s native language, as it were.

        Matt

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    • Patrice,

      I’m sorry you feel so worthless 😦 I have a few comments on your post … hope I can help you somehow …

      ”I’m a straight male virgin in my 30s with social anxiety disorder.”

      There’s absolutely nothing wrong with being a virgin in your 30s. Women, like men, prefer virgins to whores. Be proud of your virginity. When you find the right girl, she will love you more for that.

      ”Some people have questioned my sexuality since they always see me “ignore” women or act disinterested in them. They think I’m gay.”

      Please, stop being so homophobic. And please stop worrying so much what other people think. People will try to push you in the inferior position by calling you gay. Don’t let them do that – Please read the example here:
      https://heartiste.wordpress.com/dating-market-value-test-for-men/
      (Scroll down to question number 25)

      ”Are there good looking (or decent looking) older women who will take care of a sexually fucked up younger virgin with low self esteem?”

      Stop being ashamed of your virginity – as I said, you should be proud of it. You’re waiting for the right girl!

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      • Microcock sympathy game! Oh, crimson arts, is there nothing you cannot do?

        P.S. Hi Mäya.

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      • on October 21, 2013 at 1:37 pm Hugh G. Rection

        Women don’t prefer “virgins”. That term wasn’t even applied to men until recently.

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      • There’s absolutely nothing wrong with being a virgin in your 30s. Women, like men, prefer virgins to whores. Be proud of your virginity. When you find the right girl, she will love you more for that.

        Your fake words of encouragement will work on your clueless beta male “friends” (who are virgins that you will never fuck), but I smell this kindergarten level horseshit a mile away.

        I’m an omega male virgin but I’m as seasoned on female bullshit as any other man who’s taken the red pill.

        You want to help me? COME AND FUCK ME.

        Stop being ashamed of your virginity – as I said, you should be proud of it. You’re waiting for the right girl!

        The right girl? You mean a fatter, older, looser, past-her-prime chick who’s fucked a hundred badboys and who never gave me the time of day finally wants me?! Wow, what deal! Let me get my bank card ready!

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      • ”The right girl? You mean a fatter, older, looser, past-her-prime chick who’s fucked a hundred badboys and who never gave me the time of day finally wants me?! Wow, what deal! Let me get my bank card ready!”

        This is obviously not the right girl. When you will meet the right one for you, you will FEEL it. You will fall in love. ❤

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      • Patrice, you should be ignoring prettygirl entirely. Experience gives you confidence, confidence gets you girls. And you’ll never fall in love with the right girl anyway unless you get some experience with other girls and have a frame of reference.

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      • im not saying that he shouldnt talk to girls or go to dates with them .. but he definitely doesnt need to have sex to become confident …

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      • On what planet do women prefer male virgins?

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      • idk, I prefer virgins, embracing prefers virgins … there are many of us.

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      • Prettygirl… a man’s past is of no consequence to me. It is between him an God. If he has repented, it doesn’t matter to me. Pre marital sex doesn’t affect them to the same extent it affects women I believe(psychologically). If I were to marry a man who was not a virgin I would not hold it against him, but I would never want to know details or number, lest jealousy creep into my heart.

        A man remains a virgin for reasons of his faith normally. But I don’t believe it is normal for the majority of men to remain virgin for so long, it is not an easy path for them, it requires a great amount of strength, and I admire them for this. It is unrealistic to expect this of a man who is not a believer, believers who wait until marriage do so with great difficulty, and they rely on God for their strength for this, it’s not an easy task to overcome such powerful physical passions. Humans have natural desire to mate, it’s a strength from God that gives the will power to overcome this until marriage.
        For a normal man who is not a Christian to wait until marriage for sex without any religious incentive… is something which would seem odd. There would usually be underlying reasons for this… like with Patrice and his social anxiety. Hopefully he’ll overcome it(if it’s true), even if it’s not a genuine case with him, there are others like him who genuinely have those anxiety problems, and we should just be compassionate and loving with them.

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      • oh, i thought christians value virginity a lot, i didn’t know that it’s not important for men to be virgins .. i personally would prefer to marry a virgin but i’d forgive any number of women if he felt sorry and was std free (ok, i’d forgive herpes or hpv)

        ”Pre marital sex doesn’t affect them to the same extent it affects women I believe(psychologically). ”

        i find the idea that pre marital sex is bad for women but not for men pretty fucked up.. it’s definitely not true.. everyone can recover from a heartbreak or rape and fall in love after that.. i find your belief to be totally misogynistic.

        ”But I don’t believe it is normal for the majority of men to remain virgin for so long, it is not an easy path for them, it requires a great amount of strength, and I admire them for this.”

        for me virginal men are completely normal .. maybe they never had a girlfriend or their girlfriend didnt want to put out before marriage? i think this is the main reason why men remain virgins .. it’s not that you need to be religious – many just don’t have the opportunity to have sex before marriage or ltr..

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      • Pretty girl, I absolutely value virginity. I should have been more clear with my comment… if a man finds God, after a hedonistic lifestyle, I believe that his previous sexual encounters would affect him much less than they would a woman.
        It does seem misogynistic maybe. But you should understand that it just would not affect them the way it would us. OUR bodies are designed to hold babies… a long time ago before birth control a woman would NOT have been able to escape that, if she was having pre marital sex she would probably become pregnant… where as a man would just be able to go about his business as though he did nothing(if he so pleased). There wouldn’t be a physical reminder with him. It’s only now with all of these crazy birth control methods that women are able to have sex outside of marriage without as big an immediate consequence. And that doesn’t mean to say that there are not emotional/psychological consequences now, there are.We are just not designed to “become one” with so many people.

        And also understand that as women we are very emotional, and less logical thinking. I often note how easily I love and get attached to people just interacting with them…just imagine if a woman takes it a step further and has sex out of wedlock, you will fall in love when you become one for sure. And that is how we should be, this is how women are, we should remain soft hearted so that we will be able to love to our heart’s content. Sex with many multiple partners is more likely to harden a woman, and make her jaded… and make her lose her femininity.

        I know it seems unfair and misogynistic.. but men and women are very different, and it is silly to deny the realities of our nature, and what woman wants to be like a man anyway? Femininity is beautiful!!!!

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      • embracing,

        i agree with you but still it hurts me that its so difficult for men to forgive a woman if she had sex before, if her heart was broken or if she was raped.. It totally hurts me that men like CH believe that women who were raped should be avoided or ”used for pumping practice”. Maybe he was joking but still, many men here (and everywhere) are almost psychotically misogynistic about these questions..although i agree with you that sex (especially non-consensual but consensual as well) can change a woman emotionally in a negative way, i still believe everyone can recover so a rape victim or a former slut can make a good wife too – just as good as a virginal bride.

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      • Don’t let that hurt you… of course real rape victims can recover and can make wonderful wives. People can be healed.Everybody can be healed, not only healed..but made stronger. A person can gain so much insight from their pain and suffering an come out stronger and a better person.

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    • Your situation is not so bad. It is not the fact that you are virgin hindering you, it is your social anxiety hindering you. But I understand that because you are a virgin this is maybe contributing to your social anxiety.
      I would think it is wonderful if a man in his 30’s told me he was a virgin. I would say WOW what wonderful self control! And I would probably thinking it was for Faith reasons/and waiting for marriage.

      The only woman that would care about the size of your down there area is a woman that has seen many before and has many to compare you to. But anyway you don’t need such a woman. It’s better to find one that hasn’t been with another man, then she will never be able to compare your performance to another and will love you so much.

      I think the men’s advice for you to do some self-improvement will help, so you can get over this anxiety first, and then concentrate on the next steps/finding a partner. It seems you are your own worst critic, do not be so hard on yourself please, you are not hopeless, you are a MAN who wants to do something about his situation and realize his POTENTIAL. And realizing this and reaching out to other men is the most crucial and most difficult step, and you have done it. I hope everything goes well for you, sending love and prayers your way… you CAN overcome this anxiety.

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      • on October 21, 2013 at 1:40 pm Hugh G. Rection

        I would think it is wonderful if a man in his 30′s told me he was a virgin. I would say WOW what wonderful self control!

        Bullshit. Self control would imply he had the choice to sleep with women before.

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      • Yes….. but how would I know he didn’t have the choice to sleep with women before?? He HAS had the choice to sleep with women.. he just didn’t realize. Everybody has the choice.

        Yes.. it would seem odd to me for a non-devout man to be a virgin at that age, of course.If he was devout I’d admire him.

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      • on October 22, 2013 at 7:40 am Hugh G. Rection

        but how would I know he didn’t have the choice to sleep with women before??

        Because you won’t find him attractive.

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      • too much words not enough fucking you’re cute as fuck but i’m way better looking

        u like virgins so come and fuck me

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      • Well… you don’t seem to have quite as much anxiety about interacting with people online…

        I will not.

        I’m disappointed… I thought it was a genuine problem.

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      • Well… you don’t seem to have quite as much anxiety about interacting with people online…

        Of course, it’s just words on a screen.

        I will not.

        I never expected you to. How many young cute girls like yourself want to fuck 30 something virgins with small dicks? None. Unless you’re super-religious and want a guy who has a ton of self-control and saving his virginity for marriage. And even then, you want a man with small dick?? LOL GTFO.

        I’m disappointed… I thought it was a genuine problem.

        Don’t be disappointed, you’re supposed to laugh at me and then carry on with your day. Good luck finding your alpha male

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      • “Don’t be disappointed, you’re supposed to laugh at me and then carry on with your day. Good luck finding your alpha male”

        I don’t laugh at the suffering of others.. I want you to know I was genuinely concerned about you and after I posted my reply to your problem yesterday, I thought about it more and more and I got a little worked up thinking about your situation. I thought it was sad that you would allow your fear of a woman’s meaningless opinion of your body cause you such distress and anxiety.
        Anyway…. I don’t know if your situation is real or not. If it is, I hope things work out well for you, if it is not – you are very insensitive to make such a joke at the expense of others as there are men who genuinely feel such anxiety, and it is no laughing matter.

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      • You have a personality disorder, not a little-dick syndrome. Though you blame the former on the latter, just like a loser.

        Embracing is 100% sweetness and naivety, and this is the best you can can come up with? Cartoon tough-guy bluntness?

        I like that PUA training turns certain kinds of boys into men, but there has to be some kind of built-in constraints. Otherwise they become parodies of players, the worst kind of advertisement.

        So many adolescent-minded middle-aged men discovering courage for the first time, decades of frustration fueling them, now inspired to tell us all like it is, not knowing a goddamned thing.

        Matt

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      • Matthew mou, αδελφoς μου, αγάπη μου, … I may seem a little bit sweet but I am not naive I think. I just try to remember Matthew 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be therefore cautious as serpents, and harmless as doves.

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      • ”I would think it is wonderful if a man in his 30′s told me he was a virgin.”

        I agree with you.

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    • Patrice,

      God cannot help you if you don’t want to help your self man. If you are looking for sex and feel awkward around women,then do as some of the gentlemen suggested and pay for it. If you are looking for love well don’t expect any sympathy from women. Women only love a winner. If she sees you as a looser, than you don’t exist for a women. (This is why you should never tell a women that you are a virgin unless you are paying for it) It is like applying for a job, she only cares in what you can DO for HER. Women are not into charity man. You have to be willing to change. Are you willing to change? Because if you don’t want to change expect more of the same. The point is this nobody is going to serve you a women on a plate, and say here Patrice would you like her? You have to go and put yourself out there and make mistakes. You never know there could be a women on a rebound that wants to get back at her boyfriend, you just never know.

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    • Obviously time for an old, male therapist. You’re still too worried about looking cool, that’s why you won’t go.

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  16. on October 20, 2013 at 2:55 pm Greatest Beta

    Biggest cluster b of my life is my mother, hands down. The woman is so manipulative, controlling and emotional abusive I learned from the best. By far the most toxic presence in my life. Shit, Ive been handling shit tests from her since the day I was born.

    Today we go to furniture store to get a drawer for my room. She has a good eye for these things so I let her help me in picking something out. Plus I havent seen her in 4 months so i figure it would be a good way to get a little bit of face time. As we are paying for the merchandise she tells the sales associate in a pompous and disgusted manner “i cant stand the place that he lives in, ughhhh, he needs to leave I keep telling him. He has a roomate, what is this kind of thing?” in her heavy foreign accent. I tell her in greek “is it really her business to know these personal details” the sales associate gives me this look like “ur mom is a fucking cunt”

    As we leave (here I engage with her which is rule no 1 NEVER ENGAGE) I dont make 50k per month like u and dad so having a roomate is better economically she responds by deflecting “after so many years, what, I dont deserve to make 50k per month?” at that point I say ok gotta go.

    Just curious to know how many of you dudes have had a witch for a mother lol.

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    • on October 20, 2013 at 3:09 pm Redwood Raven

      lol, I figured this would be posted sooner or later. But yes, you can be TEH LADY KILLER masquerading as a fruit.

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    • on October 20, 2013 at 3:33 pm FuriousFerret

      My mom was flight attendant when it was a hired gun position and was always extremely beautiful. Never in my life have I ever dealt with the kind of entitled crazy narcissistic behavior than I have with my own mother. I know the horrors an HB 9 because I grew up with one going nuts every week.

      Also my dad was a super alpha, D1 athlete, frat star, business owner, I have three half siblings, constant womanizer. I was raised by my beta step dad who my mom picked because when she was engaged with my pops she would have women calling and hanging up in the middle of the night and she called off the wedding. To this very day, she talks about my real father with love while ordering around my step dad with bitchiness.

      In other words I know them feels bro.

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    • I think feminist, or feminist-acting mothers are the primary reason why the ideology took control in our society. We have on the one hand a lot of men working and being simply absent until evening. On the other hand we have a lot of women reading feminazi magazines, watching feminazi movies and tv shows that get mass-manipulated and manipulate their children, especially their sons.

      My girlfriend is being told by her mother (a milf feminazi that cheated on her husband and father of her children multiple times, got divorced and still got the children. she still receives alimony from the poor man) that she should think twice before having sex with me. She’d rather wait a few months to see if I’m worth it. Her mother even made her asking me for an HIV-test. I’m dumping her anyway while pumping others.

      To your problem greek friend: Just tell the salesperson in an irrational confident manner (POOON MATHAFACKA) that your mother’s just jealous of your youth and the fact that you have friends. She’s playfully playing down you. Just be alpha in that moment.

      The moment you can be alpha against your mother and other women close to you, you are alpha to technically all women.

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    • Just curious to know how many of you dudes have had a witch for a mother lol.

      I sincerely feel sorry for Satan, because his asshole has been bleeding and raw ever since my mother died.

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    • Dude…for a mother? I’ve had girlfriends like this.

      The last one, after a variety of distancing in which she backed off…I backed off a mile, push-pull, other drama and attention-getting nonsense, she creates a huge drama last Monday, breaks up with me, comes over to pack up her shit. Leaves by simply saying “bye”. I let her go. 20 minutes later I get a text: “Thanks for being so kind to me, good luck with your big event this week”. Me: nothing.

      She sends another text 2 days later to remind me to confirm with a caterer. Me: nothing.

      Then she sends ANOTHER text 2 days later asking me: “Should I come to the xxxx” thing we had arranged with my guests. Me: 8 hours later: Can’t now, other arrangements.

      My event goes off without a hitch, huge success, photos, etcetc. I have to thank her publicly for the work she had put in up to then.

      She texts me LATE LATE Saturday just before my event ends: “have fun”.
      Me: nothing.

      Then she sends another email: “Please remove me from the group”.
      I guess in Facebook when you thank someone and tag them it shows up in your page. Without realizing it I had gotten her hamsters spinning with all her friends asking “You helped? Why aren’t you coming?” and she would have to reply: “Uh I was being a cunt and it backfired”.

      So I came up with the best reply ever to this provocation: “I thanked everyone who helped” ie: you’re one of the crowd of people—mostly girls—I thanked.

      So…yah, women can be manipulative cunts….that’s what “shit-tests” are all about. But your “Greater Beta” handle says it all. By calling yourself that you become that. Start thinking of ways to flip the script. In my case the pre-game me would have been begging her to come to my event and apologizing for “offending” her by thanking her.

      The new game-savvy me can read these situations much better and find actions and responses aligned with not being a “Greater Beta”.

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      • “Then she sends ANOTHER text 2 days later asking me: “Should I come to the xxxx” thing we had arranged with my guests. Me: 8 hours later: Can’t now, other arrangements.”

        Beautiful. You can get this one back pretty quickly. She’s already fishing to see if you want her back.

        But she needs to “suffer” first. She has to miss you and feel what life is like without you and compare its bleakness to how amazing life with you was. It’s not a matter of punishing her and making her hurt, it’s a matter of making her VERY well aware with perfect clarity just how good she has it with you and just how good you are to her. Basically it’s to make her appreciate you.

        If you let her come back before she feels that, then she comes back with an ultimatum and repeats this behavior in the future, possibly when you’re locked down harder (living together, married, have a kid, etc) and can’t Soft Next her as easy.

        She has to give up, and to fully accept and believe that you can live without her. Like Fight Club where he has to give up and accept that one day he’ll die.

        Once she’s given up, THAT’S when you can let her back in. You can even actively chase her, and you might have to, but shooting a late night “hey” or something to let her know you haven’t deleted her number.

        This can take anywhere from a few weeks to a year. But trust the principles and hold steady like you are. If anything your problem will be convincing her you actually WANT her back because she’ll start to think you’re too high value for her and wouldn’t want anything to do with her.

        You’re doing good. And props on your event going well.

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      • Thanks…that “Please remove my name from the FB group” was an obvious shit-test.

        The easiest thing would be to ignore it.

        The dumbest thing would have been to say “You’re a bitch…”

        I thought it over and thought breaking no-contact is a no no…but I can’t ignore a provocation and I can’t be provoked.

        The line: “I thanked everyone who helped.” made sense. not beta, not qualifying, factual but also definitive in putting her in her place. Also I wanted to rev up the hamster by responding in a zen-like manner…

        That was my thinking anyway.

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    • you are failing as the future patriarch of your genetic chain by giving a shit about this

      it is her asserting primacy over your life to reaffirm her own former purpose as well as to shame you into improvement such that you can afford the opulence that will attract women and yield further progeny for her to dote over before she dies soon

      respect that she didn’t abort you, laugh and move past it content with your present life or recognize your plans might in fact suck and you need to do something more about that

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      • on October 21, 2013 at 9:24 am Greatest Beta

        Lol I wish it was that simple. Woman is crazy. After that incident she called me 10 times dude. She is the cause of my weak inner frame. 15 years of beatings, screaming, nail digging, biting, false suicide attempts will fuck with anyone’s head.

        I can’t control her i can only control myself. So now we are limited contact, treat her like a mental patient. When I “oppose” her will which is very common the last few years she lashes out but instead of engaging I disengage letting her angry hamster spin in hypersonic circles inside her own head.

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    • I think my first taste of the red pill was probably my mom’s response after I told her about my crazy-ass alcoholic BPD girlfriend cheating on me: “Well, it was probably your fault because you weren’t giving her what she wanted.” Light bulb moment.

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    • I had this, too. My mother was always controlling, passive aggressive, etc. Like this. Then, my dad passed away. He was really alpha. Typical 50’s/Greatest Generation “man of the family” type.

      Mother came to stay with me for a while, and the behavior ramped up, until it was so bad that I just unloaded on her. I had thought is was part of the grief process, but it was just her looking for some boundaries/to be put in her place.

      After I yelled at her, she was perfectly sweet, and the yelling didn’t even seem to register that it happened.

      Try yelling at her, then take her to lunch…

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  17. True. I have a friend who’s gay (now, i’m thinking he’s bi) and he has banged every single one of his “girlfriends”. By that, I mean friends who happen to be girls. Anyway, he strings them along emotionally and bangs them when they feel “sexually frustrated”. He tells me in passing that he prefers only getting blowjobs from chicks since he really only likes to bang men, but sometimes the girls push for that there pussy penetration. (srs) Anyway, it might help more to say that he’s a masculine kind of gay. He’s not a flamboyant, like oh my gawd gurlll where did you get those shoes at!?!” type. He’s more chilled and level headed actually.

    These kind of guys are pretty lethal because i’ve theorized that they have an impeccable level of understanding/empathy that matches a women’s, and the focused sexual drive of a masculine man.

    If you’re a guy, you would be wise to befriend a homo. Try not to befriend a flamboyant one, though. You could learn a lot from them. No joke. Just don’t get too close to him and if he offers you a drink at 3am at his apartment, don’t go.

    no homo.

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    • on October 21, 2013 at 6:27 am Hugh G. Rection

      Those flamboyant fairies exist mostly on TV, it’s kind of a typical trope. Most of them aren’t like that.

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  18. on October 20, 2013 at 3:50 pm Subarctic Hillbilly

    Think of gay bars as a barrel. And the women as fish. And your penis as a gun.

    You don’t even have to be pretend to be gay. Just lay down your typical game. It’s led to at least a half dozen same-night notches for me, and another half dozen eventual lays. Given that I’ve hung out (hehe) in the ghey venues only about 20 times, no other venue has even come close. (With the exception of your mother’s house). The women are hotter (this time not excepting your mother) and the dance music is designed to pump up the liquidity of all the quim in the vicinity. Even pulled a couple of times out of a lesbian club.

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  19. […] PUA Heartiste has a mini blog post up in which he advocates pretending to be a gay guy in order to seduce women. I’ve never […]

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  20. Patrice
    You are not making a lot of sense. If you are really bothered by the fupa that ate yur dick you would deal with it. Because it can be dealt with. Then go read the M. de Sades classic, “Justine” a few times. I mean, if you are actually for real. I mean, “screening for testicular cancer?” Where does that happen? A chick was going to feel you up and you requested a guy instead? Did the guy see your rampant manhood? If not, why would he comment on your tragic limitations?

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    • Patrice
      You are not making a lot of sense. If you are really bothered by the fupa that ate yur dick you would deal with it. Because it can be dealt with.

      I’m not obese by any means, I just have to lose some weight. Weight loss isn’t easy for me either because I have chronic injuries that I have to put up with.

      Even if I was a shredded super athlete I’d be packing a tiny 5″ at BEST.

      I mean, if you are actually for real. I mean, “screening for testicular cancer?” Where does that happen? A chick was going to feel you up and you requested a guy instead? Did the guy see your rampant manhood? If not, why would he comment on your tragic limitations?

      I felt a lump in my testicle, doctor referred me for more diagnostics (scrotal ultrasound, where they put gel on your nuts and then do an ultrasound ), and they had a woman technician offer to do it.

      I refused and requested a guy. He was trying not to burst out laughing several times during the examination and he was talking shit about my lack of size to his female coworkers after. They were chuckling and laughing in the room next door when I left the examination room to leave the office.

      One of the bitches that found it funny was this short, fat, kinda ugly-looking hijab wearing muslim chick. Another shot to the fucking ego. Why would these fucking bitches laugh at something that isn’t even my fucking fault????? Fuck’em all.

      I can’t believe I’m explaining this shit.

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      • “. . . 5″ at BEST.”
        Otherwise known as US average.

        “Weight loss isn’t easy for me . . . I have chronic injuries . . .”
        What sort of injuries force food down your throat?

        “I can’t believe I’m explaining this shit.”
        With all due respect, I couldn’t have said it better myself.

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      • “. . . 5″ at BEST.”
        Otherwise known as US average.

        If I press a ruler hard against my pubic bone it’s 5″ erect. If I don’t press hard it’s 3.75″-4″. Soft it’s about 2″.

        I know I have to lose weight, I’m not denying that, but even if I get super lean it’s still fucking small. I wish 5″ was average. The average is probably 6″-6.5″.

        Listen, when the cunts at the doctor’s office laugh at me, then what the fuck am I supposed to expect with a women??

        I get it, looks don’t matter, size doesn’t matter, even weight doesn’t matter, it’s all about game. I get that shit, but what’s a depressed, anxious, 30+ year old virgin with a horrible upbringing, absent father, abusive mother, and a tiny dick supposed to do? Be happy about himself??

        I hate saying this, and this goes against the very tenets of PUA, but I need a woman in my life to “fix me”. I need a girl who won’t judge my lack of status, history, social skills, sexual experience, and size.I’m a good looking guy though.

        I need a woman who can teach me how to fuck, give me some confidence, and make me feel better about myself. It’s sad and pathetic to admit this but it is what it is.

        You are probably pulling your hairs out and saying “listen you virgin fuck happiness always comes from the inside, don’t be attached to anything in your life and don’t seek approval.”

        I get it, I’m trying to look for an easy fix where there isn’t one. But I don’t know where the fuck to begin.

        What is the sexual market value of a guy in my situation? Would good looking older women (30s-50s i don’t care) give me a chance and do all the work? My gut tells me no, but I’ve heard many stories of older women fucking younger guys where the younger guys WEREN’T alphas.

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      • “I wish 5″ was average. The average is probably 6″-6.5″.”

        It’s not a question of probably. There are, believe it or not, dick size scientists. It’s been measured. 5.1″ USA. 5″ Ireland (fewer black dudes I guess). 4″ Thailand and India. Have you noticed how many Indians there are? Somebody’s been doing a pretty decent job of fucking up a storm there.

        Your deficiency is in your head, i.e., it’s fucked up.

        “. . . what’s a depressed, anxious, 30+ year old virgin . . . supposed to do? Be happy about himself??”

        That would be a damned fine start, yes.

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      • 1) LIFT WEIGHTS.

        Even if it’s not much at first.

        Then work your way up to lots and lots and lots of weights.

        2) LEARN HER PLEASURE SPOTS.

        You can watch any of about a billion porn videos to see where her clitoris is. Then watch lesbian [girl on girl] cunnilingus to see how to properly massage the clitoris to bring her to orgasm. You can do it with your tongue or with your lip or with your finger or maybe even with your toe or your nose.

        Bonus Tip: Always lick your fingers and get them nice and moist with saliva and phlegm before you start massaging her clit. In fact, start licking your fingers right there in front of her face, before you even unzip her pants, so that she knows exactly what she’s about to get.

        Then there’s the G-Spot. It lies at the top of her vagina, just inside and behind the pubic bone.

        You don’t have to go all the way to her cervix [at the end of her vagina] to get to the G-Spot. In fact, I don’t know that the G-Spot is much more than halfway to her cervix.

        So you don’t need a massive 10″ erection to pleasure a woman’s G-Spot. In fact, with a shorter erection, there’s more much likelihood that the tip of your erection could end in her G-Spot and therefore be massaging it the whole time.

        3) WOMAN ARE JUST LIKE MEN: SOME VAGINAS ARE LONG, SOME VAGINAS ARE SHORT.

        I’ve been chicks whose vaginas were so deep that I couldn’t feel their cervixes no matter how far I tried to shove my fingers inside of them.

        And I’ve been with chicks whose vaginas were so shallow that half of my dick was hanging out in midair the whole time we were making love.

        4) NOT ALL WOMAN ARE ORGASMIC.

        If you end up with some “frigid” chick, it don’t matter whether your erection is 1″ long or 11″ long – the bitch just ain’t cumming.

        Moral of the story: Search out big, buxom, friendly, happy-go-lucky feminine chicks who are much more likely to be capable of orgasm after orgasm after orgasm.

        And stay the hell away from the cold mousy anorexic obsessively hateful chicks who probably can’t achieve orgasm in the first damned place.

        5) DUDES WITH SMALL ERECTIONS CAN STILL BE PLAYERS.

        One of the dudes with the smallest dicks I ever saw in the showers ended up with one of the hottest wives I’ve ever known.

        Bottom Line: First and foremost, chicks dig ATTITUDE.

        Get the right attitude, and everything else will follow.

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      • on October 21, 2013 at 6:57 am Hugh G. Rection

        Those big vagina ladies are getting away with murder!

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      • A few other points which I need to make:

        3a) WOMEN ARE JUST LIKE MEN: SOME VAGINAS ARE LONG, SOME VAGINAS ARE SHORT.

        3b) WOMEN ARE JUST LIKE MEN: SOME CLITORISES ARE MASSIVE, SOME CLITORISES ARE ESSENTIALLY NON-EXISTENT.

        As in the title of 3b), I’ve been with chicks where, for all intents and purposes, I couldn’t feel the presence of any clitoris at all, or even really much of a clitoral “hood”.

        And, at the other extreme, I’ve been with chicks who had clits that were almost as big as my thumb.

        Bonus Tip: As a very general rule, the bigger the clit, the more likely you are to get “multiple orgasms” out of her, whereas the smaller the clit, the more likely you are to encounter “frigidity” in her.

        There are plenty of exceptions to the rule, but, in general, it’s a pretty good predictor of what the ultimate sexual experience is going to be.

        5a) DUDES WITH SMALL ERECTIONS CAN STILL BE PLAYERS.

        5b) THE SIZE OF YOUR BALLS IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE SIZE OF YOUR ERECTION.

        There was either a full topic on this recently at the Chateau, or else a prominently displayed link to a study within some full topic at the Chateau, where there was a study which showed that [as I recall it] fatherhood correlated very strongly with the size of the testes, NOT with the size of the penis.

        Bottom line being that you need some big balls to make all that testosterone [for your badass attitude which attracts the bitch to you] and also to make all them little sperms [so as to actually knock up your bitch].

        Now here’s the big problem, though: Some guys have, by nature, very small testes, very low testosterone levels, and very low sperm counts.

        I.e. there’s a bell curve to everything, and some dudes just fall way over to the left end of the bell curve for balls size, “T”, and the littly squiggly fellas which swim their way up the fallopian tubes.

        But the really great news here is that there is a medical discipline, called “endocrinology”, which made enormous strides during the 20th Century in learning how to treat these sorts of disorders.

        So I would strongly advise you to start googling on keywords like “endocrinology” and “testosterone” and find yourself a really good physician in your area with a strong board-certified specialty in “Men’s Health”.

        And go in and talk to him about all of these things.

        Have him examine your testes and your prostate for any irregularities [which means the dreaded finger up the ass].

        Have him send bloodwork on stuff like:

        A) Serum Testosterone Levels
        B) Serum Progesterone Levels [yes, you have “P” in you]
        C) Serum Estrogen Levels [yes, you have “E” in you]

        And he may even want to send you for a cranial/cephalic MRI, so as to get a sense of the health of your Pituitary Gland.

        There was one of these television shows recently [might have been “Mystery Diagnosis”], about a 25-year-old man, who hadn’t entered puberty yet, and they sent him for a bunch of tests, and it turned out that he had a congenital defect wherein a skull bone had poked into his pituitary gland, and had damaged it so badly that the pituitary was never able to instigate the onset of puberty.

        And so they put the dude on a regimen of artificial hormone therapy to induce puberty in him.

        So if this stuff is really bothering you, then I strongly urge you to go see an Endocrinologist, with a specialty in Testosterone & the Pituitary Gland, and have him run the tests on you.

        And, who knows, you might come out of there with a prescription for some low-dose “T”, and also either Viagra or Cialis.

        And it might just turn you into a new man.

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      • Ever heard of jelqing?

        If you’re so hung up on dick size, check out pegym or thundersplace. Apparently it works.

        But I suspect that even if you gain 3 inches, you will still find some other bullshit to bitch about.

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      • If you’re that concerned see a urologist.

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      • plenty of chicks can’t get off from a dick anyway man just stop thinking so much and go through with it and find out. you’re going to be surprised how little (ha ha) issue there is

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      • “But I don’t know where the fuck to begin.”

        Yes you do. You’ve had a dozen helpful responses. But you don’t really want help, you want sympathy and for someone to tell you that you’re right, you got dealt a shitty hand and its okay for you to wallow in that and feel sorry for yourself and here you go here’s a woman who will fix you all up.

        You don’t deserve a woman to fix you until you start trying to fix yourself. Go hit the gym, do the pickup newbie missions with eye-contact and saying hi and asking for the time etc (google them for details, you have time to), watch Tony Robbins videos daily, and post back in a month. You’re just wasting everyone’s time right now trolling them to put effort into trying to help you when you’re not going to take action. Now go handle your shit, you’re a man, you were born with the ability to overcome setbacks.

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      • Dude, average for whites in the US and Europe is just over 5”
        It’s bigger for Negroids and smaller for Asians.
        Heck, mines about 5.5”, and I’m over 6′ and 200lbs. Doesn’t give me any issues. If a girl gives you heck, just remind her that only sluts, porn stars and whores have big loose vaginas (it’s true), then ask her how many dicks she’s taken to get such a big vagina.
        The average vagina is about 4” deep.
        Depth of penetration is of very little importance, all their nerves are near the surface – ask yourself this: Why do girls love oral so much? How long is the average tongue? half an inch? A lot of girls (maybe most?) prefer oral to intercourse. They will actively choose the tiny tongue over the (relatively) big dick.
        As for “social anxiety”, get a weekend job in a bar or as a waiter or anything where you have to talk to lots of strangers.

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      • Why are you measuring your penis? It sounds like you need to get a life.

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      • And quit watching porn, ffs.

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      • It sounds like you want a woman to teach you the ropes and improve your confidence, and then you’ll move on to a better quality woman. If that is the case, you are going to have to offer her something in return. My advice would be to find an older prostitute, who is willing to take you on as a regular client.

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      • PE works, you should look into it.

        You can realistically gain 2 inches in length and girth within a year or so.

        It’s a lot of work, I did it for a while but I get a lot of asians and it’s too much for them.

        I started at 5.5 and it was big, once I got to 7 they were afraid and hit the cervix with every girl and they complained a lot, so I let it drop back to 6.5 or so and now it’s big but manageable

        I’m talking whores thought it was big and they were afraid of it, not normal asian girls. Non-asians didn’t think it was exactly small either. Sometimes when I go to a massage parlor I used to end up dating the girl outside which is a mistake.

        You would be fine as is for normal asian girls, you are their size.

        My friend and I one night asked an chinese girl who was my room mate in college what her ideal size was once and she made her fingers 4 inches apart.

        Since we were expecting to hear 8 or 9 we were laughing, she was a friend of ours but she swore by that. She didn’t know why we were laughing.

        Later when we had sex 5.5 was way big for her and was hitting the cervix every time.

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      • Sex seems to work best with men who are a little bit bigger than you, but not a lot. At least that’s been my experience.

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  21. An M4, an ACOG, and 30 pounds of Tannerite. Out in the country with some old friends. Beats the shite out of talk therapy.

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  22. A threesome isn’t a fucking gangbang.

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  23. I never tried fake gay game before I know it has been around in the pickup community for some years now. I think Mehow the pua guru does the fake gay routine a lot.

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  24. Do you think Gayme would work when you look like Mr. Clean?

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  25. Irony of ironies! Rock Hudson used the gay trick on Doris Day in “Pillow Talk.”

    But best of all was Tony Curtis acting gay to seduce Marilyn Monroe in “Some Like it Hot.”

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  26. Lol I don’t pretend to be gay every time. It’s just one of the push pull tactics I can use. Another one is disqualification by saying I have a girlfriend or am married.

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  27. Homosexuality its a strategy to pass under women’s radars and reproduce. Like one kind of bug does…

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  28. I don’t recommend this strategy if you are trying to pull girls of a conservative nature, namely trailer dwellers; you may just as likely get a swift one to the nuts rather than tending to the nuts for utilizing gay schtick. Know your audience.

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  29. If yu got to age 20 without a climb-on semi-rape from a female-bezerker you might think of offing yurself.

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    • If yu got to age 20 without a climb-on semi-rape from a female-bezerker you might think of offing yurself.

      Here’s my resume at 30+ years old.

      No fucking
      No blowjobs
      No fondling
      No rubbing
      No holding hands
      2 dates all my life, 1 kiss at a club a decade ago
      No I love yous
      No valentine’s day cards
      No New Years Eve makeouts
      No date to prom
      No companionship
      No love
      No fucks given by the opposite sex

      And I have to hear fucking idiots on TV bitching about not having a date on a Saturday night or not having sex in “4 whole months!!”. How fucking relatable..

      Almost nobody knows what it’s like, and I can’t talk about to this anyone. Sorry about my bitching but I have nowhere else to do this. Having some of you guys reading this as well as Heartiste himself, is a bit therapeutic for me.

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    • If yu got to age 20 without a climb-on semi-rape from a female-bezerker you might think of offing yurself.

      My dating history, at 30+ years old.

      No fucking
      No blowjobs
      No fondling/rubbing/caressing
      No holding hands
      2 dates all my life, 1 kiss at a club a decade ago
      No New Years Eve kiss
      No Valentine’s day cards
      No date at Prom
      No I love yous
      No companionship
      No fucks given by the opposite sex

      And I have to hear idiot characters on TV bitching about not having a date on a Saturday night or not getting a laid in “4 months!!”.

      Sorry about my attitude, but I have nowhere to vent to. Having you guys read this (even the owner of the board himself) is a bit therapeutic for me.

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      • on October 21, 2013 at 6:59 am Hugh G. Rection

        Nobody really gives a shit though.

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      • I’ll make you a deal, Patrice. I can offer you a 5′ tall 200-pound woman who takes it in the ass and swallows. She’s not much to look at, and she smells bad, but I guarantee you she will have an orgasm from your tiny penis, and make you feel like a real man. She’s yours for only $500.

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      • Only $500? Since when did Lily up the ante?

        llozozlzlzozozlzlozlzozozlzlzl

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      • ”And I have to hear idiot characters on TV bitching about not having a date on a Saturday night or not getting a laid in “4 months!!”.”

        Stop watching TV. It’s not the real world.

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    • on October 21, 2013 at 5:13 am gunslingergregi

      yea no intention of fucking exchick she would not take no for answer
      ive had bitches beg me to fuck em when younger but the crazed eyed teary begging and trying to physically take my dick shit only been last couple years

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  30. Would like to know what you think about OM.

    Weird seeming shit. The dudes seem like pussies, but the chicks are (reportedly) getting off, and the men report a frame switch (chaser to chased): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYbSazo3gus Of course, the women they show are older and not all that hot. To me, this seems like supplication writ large and another trend for SWPLs to jump on to prove they are liberated. I’m going to sit down and stroke her pussy for fifteen minutes like it’s a job?

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  31. […] Never let it be said CH shies from bringing to the world the more devious applications of game. This example crops up in the player literature now and again: pretending to be gay to score same night lays.  […]

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  32. on October 21, 2013 at 4:33 am The Burninator

    I suspect that “winning” and “behaving ethically and manly” are not antonyms.

    If big city chicks dig gay guys, I see no reason to accommodate their fetish. Let them be alone with dried up va-jay jays until they learn that it’s men that they want.

    A Machiavellian approach to dating may sound cool, but it’s only enabling really poor cultural trends. Act like a douche if you want, nothing off my back, I’ll be happy to get women without lowering myself to this kind of stunt and continue winning while laughing at you.

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    • “If big city chicks dig gay guys, I see no reason to accommodate their fetish. Let them be alone with dried up va-jay jays until they learn that it’s men that they want.”

      Thank you for saying it. The moment a guy tells me he’s gay, my facial expressions change and my appetite drops to nil. And, if he tries to seduce me, visions of him butt fucked enter my head, and visions of him…….oh never mind. It just turns my stomach.

      Can this work on some women? Sure. Many women are not disgusted by gay behavior. But for us girls that are, and for us girls that like our men real men, gay doesn’t turn us on. In fact, gay disgusts.

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      • There’s a reason women who like queers are called “fag hags”. As in “hags”. If they’re white, they tend to be the less attractive girls. (Attractive nonwhite girls seem to hang around queers more than attractive white girls do for some reason.)

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      • “If they’re white, they tend to be the less attractive girls.”

        I think you might be on to something. If you have enough men after you, why would you ever need to sleep with a gay man, or an imposter? For feminine women, seduction and sex is partially about fantasy – to be seduced by a real man; to be taken and dominated. Gay kills all that.

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      • Lily, you are claiming you don’t like it up the ass? SO hard to believe…

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      • on October 22, 2013 at 5:14 am The Burninator

        Great point on the “taken and dominated” Lilly. It actually seems to me that the chicks who go for gay “game” are the ones who are least likely to want to be dominated by a man, or any other traditional functional feminine trait. Why in the name of Holy Hanna Barbara would I want a woman who rejects even her basic feminine impulses? If the guys here are serious about wanting actual feminine women to return, this kind of “game” is the antithesis of how to make that happen.

        Nah, I like gals who want me, even if they won’t say it at first, to be the hunter and them the prey. The ones who moan in pleasure when I press her against a wall and kiss her whenever I wish to do so. A woman who would like me only if she felt I didn’t have a masculine bone in my body is a total turn off right from the get go. Might as well go bang Andrea Dworkin, turn in my man card, and shoot myself in the head later that evening.

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      • “It actually seems to me that the chicks who go for gay “game” are the ones who are least likely to want to be dominated by a man, or any other traditional functional feminine trait.”

        Right. I came to the realization that such women indeed have much less traditional feminine traits. They like having their own imaginary power, and they think that a dominant man will not allow them that power, and it’s frightening to them. Most of these women are control freaks anyway. Maybe they like gay men because such men are less frightening. Maybe, subconsciously, a woman believes gay would be more into asking and trying to please her in a friendly manner or a curiosity, as opposed to mostly caring about his own masculine pleasure, which is more likely to push her into submissiveness. Such women don’t like this type of sexual play. Instead, they are more into egalitarian sex where her pleasure is just as important, or even the goal before his. Egalitarian sex is a form of feminism.

        The thing is, women with more traditional feminine traits can’t get off with a guy who isn’t into first and foremost satisfying his own masculine desire. His desire creates passion and lust such women adore.

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  33. on October 21, 2013 at 4:58 am gunslingergregi

    patrice really guys lolzzzzzzzzzzzz

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  34. Pretending to be gay is overdoing it; but being comfortable with homo culture may be what women pick up on and attract them to you.

    For example, if you haven’t been to a gay dance club, you should go and keep going until you are comfortable.

    1. there are hot straight chicks there, and you can pull them.

    2. Never any fights

    3. everybody is friendly, no posers, haters or other nonsense…

    4. Learn/practice dance moves.

    Don’t worry about guys hitting on you, they can tell who is gay and who isn’t. Girls are at a serious disadvantage in these places because not only are they NOT the center of attention; but if they have any flaws, gay men are not afraid to call them out on it.

    If you get too hot from dancing you can take your shirt off and nobody asks you to leave.

    get a hot girl and take her dancing at a gay club; by the end of the night she will be begging you smash it, mash it, flip it over, rub it down with an ice cube, and do it again.

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  35. I has been I long time that I havent gone to the US and Americans are becoming difficult to understand, so someone clear this one for me…

    This is a video of that girl getting licked and then next day she has smile pics and accuses guy of rape
    http://www.worldstaruncut.com/uncut/63660

    But why is he happy to eat that piss sweat and dirty mixture off her puss?

    Why does he look satisfied to be filmed doing that?

    This is this deviant behavior, or is it the new norm ??

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  36. Gay game!? LoL.
    That was Ross Jeffires around 1996…

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    • If you eat sexual girls right they end up later frantically masturbating over the memory and best of all feeling guilty about the creaming fits the fantasy gives them. Then they whimper like kittens when they get it again later and confess they’re addicted to you. That’s just grand.

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  37. Being gay may land you a woman for a ONS, but can she see you as LTR material? I have great respect for CH, but there are still traditional people out who would like an exclusive LTR… wish the advice geared more towards that at times.

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  38. Offer them the amenities that make vice agreeable. They will call them “civilization”, when really they are just a means of their own enslavement.

    War is deception.

    You can tell her you are gay, and she can tell you she has never done this before.

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  39. testing testing

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