The Mainstream Media Is Beginning To Accept The Truth Of Game

Yahoo, one of the most MSM-y of the MSM outlets, has a dating advice column that lifts techniques straight from the game literature. In order to stay ahead of the PC police, the author couches it in terms of attracting either men or women, but the reality well-known to those who are actually out there mud-deep in the scrum of the sexual market is that these courtship tactics are more effective when used on women. (Ladies, the only techniques you need to attract men for sex are the following: look hot. To attract men for love, you’ll need more than a young pretty face, but that is a discussion for another day.)

Flattery strategy #1: Get specific with your praise
Since daters often feel like they’re just one amongst a parade of people having coffee with you, demonstrate some genuine interest in the next one you meet to help erase that fear. “We studied the relationship between reciprocity and romance and found that if someone thinks you’re attracted to him or her, it increases that person’s attraction to you,” says Eli Finkel, Ph.D., a psychology professor at Northwestern University. [Ed: This is misleading. The studies on reciprocity clearly indicate that while women are attracted to men they think are attracted to them, women are *more* attracted to men for whom they are uncertain about the men’s attraction to them.] On the other hand, “If someone’s attracted to you but getting the sense that you’re attracted to lots of other people, he or she will tend to dislike you.” The upshot? Prove you’re picky (and that this person fits your high criteria). Then you’re well on your way to making this potential amour pick you, too. Reread his or her profile right before you meet up and tell your date exactly why it stood out from the rest and what you noticed first. And nix any mentions of past bad dates or other negative experiences, which can make it inadvertently seem like you’ll give anyone the time of day.

Game concept stolen: Qualification.

Flattery strategy #2: Create insider info between the two of you
You don’t have to be old friends to cultivate a comfortable rapport with someone. “Make references to things you’ve discussed or emailed about,” says dating coach Annie Dennison, Ph.D. “It creates a sense of intimacy and shows your date you’re really listening.” To really drive home that you find your date fascinating, ask for more information on details he or she mentioned in passing (“I know you like Jay-Z. Which album of his do you think I should download?”). Or tie together stories (yours or your date’s) with a follow-up line like, “Wow, that reminds me of what you were telling me about your trip to Costa Rica/your overbearing boss/football obsession.”

Game concept stolen: Secret world. (Most of the attendant advice in this paragraph is shitty, but the core concept is spot on.)

Flattery strategy #3: Congratulate your date
If you want your sweetie to really beam, show you’re impressed by a feat that he or she is especially proud of. “We did a study and found that when people told others about something good that happened to them and the person responded positively, it improved the whole experience,” Shelly Gable, Ph.D., professor of psychology at the University of California, Santa Barbara. So don’t just say “Cool!” when your date mentions a win like getting into grad school, finishing a 10K, or just getting an amazing deal at an outlet store. Get into it and ask what he felt when he got the news, how she reacted, which person he told first, or how long she’d been hoping for it to happen. Answering the questions will let your date relive some of the excitement — and associate you with an unexpectedly happy buzz.

Game concept stolen: Emotional connection. (Ignore the part about congratulating her. Just ask leading questions that get her emotions traveling in the right, i.e. sexual, direction.)

Flattery strategy #4: Compliment qualities that are unrelated to [her] looks
When you admire a not-so-obvious trait that your date has, it makes you seem super-insightful. An easy place to start is by connecting his or her job to a quality you appreciate. Tell an accountant that you’re always especially envious of detail-oriented people; tell a teacher you’re in awe of those who can motivate others. If you like what your date is wearing or how this person decorated his or her home, “don’t compliment the ‘thing’ — anyone can buy a thing — but call out what it says about him or her,” says Susan Rabin, author of Lucky in Love. Instead of the tie itself, praise the person’s individual style; instead of muttering “nice couch,” say you’re wowed by people who have an eye for color and design.

Game concept stolen: Ignore her beauty. Women want to think you are an exceptional man because you notice things about them most men don’t. A more cynical explanation: a man who isn’t affected by a woman’s looks is an alpha male who likely has lots of experience bedding women. And chicks dig preselected men.

Flattery Strategy #5: Emphasize your date’s name in your verbal responses

Game concept stolen: N/A. This advice only matters within context. Don’t blurt out a girl’s name until she has earned your recognition by asking you for your name first, and using it within a sentence.

Flattery strategy #6: Playfully tease your date
If you saw The Departed, you probably remember the scene when Matt Damon asks his date something like: “What makes you think I want a second date with you?” — then bursts out laughing. It turns out those childhood playground tormentors (“Ewww, you have cooties!”) were onto something. “Thinking someone is attracted to you is great, but our research also suggests that not being sure about it actually heightens the excitement,” says grad student Paul Eastwick, Finkel’s research partner at the Northwestern Relationships Lab. Hearing that kind of rejection can spike feelings of anxiety — then fill you with relief when you realize it was a gag. So if you’re sure your date has a good sense of humor, give him or her a little ribbing first: “Oh no, you’re an Aquarius? Shoot, I have a rule about that.” Not only do you get to have an instant inside joke, it sends a subtle message that you’re into your date enough to be comfortable joking about it. Just make sure you don’t tease about something the person’s sensitive about — that’s not flirting; that’s an insult.

Game concept stolen: The neg.

Welcome aboard, MSM! Glad to see you are reading sites like this blog and imbibing its wisdom. Who knows what you’re capable of now! Perhaps an honest look at the negative externalities of mass third world migration. Or tough, no-nonsense reporting about innate sex differences in athletic program participation and upper management representation. The world is your oyster.





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  1. first!

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  2. Hopefully this is a sign of MSM coming to grips with reality. I don’t know if I can tolerate another sensationalized PC anti-white news story.

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  3. Five posts at once, really? Spread this shit out, wouldja? Some of us have day jobs and can only devote two hours per day to the Chateau.

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    • Thankfully, my day job involves lots of time in front of a computer. In a private office. Indeed, a casual observer would think that my day job consists of reading and commenting on blogs, listening to Pandora, and playing Bloons Tower Defense.

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    • Oh I see what’s happening. Some old posts are republishing to the RSS feed.

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  4. I’m happy for that. But you are much ahead in US. I was reading American edition of Woman’s Health a few days ago and was pleasantly surprised that not only all articles are evidence-based, but they also like to acknowledge the differences between sexes and they even mentioned evo psych once. Our woman’s magazines are all about casual sex and are actually insulting to the female reader.

    “To attract men for love, you’ll need more than a young pretty face, but that is a discussion for another day.”

    What, what? Hurry up, please. I have a face still pretty and young, but time’s a tickin! I need more advice!

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    • Assuming your have a decent SMV:

      – Don’t bitch about futilities (except if you’re with a beta chump, bitching about everything will keep you sane until you send him to read this blog).
      – Maintain shit tests at a minimal level.
      – Learn how to cook and excel at it.
      – Be nurturing, show potential for being a good mother.
      – Be male friendly (divorce laws are bad, feminism is bad…)

      Yeah and don’t fall for a bad boy or a passive agressive alpha who will dump you sooner or later. Avoid betas because even if you could fall in love with one of them, chances are you’re gonna dump him or cheat on him.
      Decent men (somehow alphas) who are willing to commit are an endangered species, because they’ve seen that many men have been screwed.
      That would be my strategy if i was a woman. Since I’m not, i’m gonna stick with this blog’s advice: play the field and stay away from marriage.

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    • Another strategy is to pick a beta, and alpha him up, by leading him to embrace this blog’s truths, and to improve his game in general.
      It’s risky though because many betas stick to betadom, and they can panic outside of their comfort zone.

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    • Stay off the pedestal — don’t permit your prospect to supplicate to you.

      Be easy to talk to — enter his conversation zone. Then let him lead.

      Shun all expensive dating practices. They signify bad long term results. Either he’s spending daddy’s money — and is a man-child — or he’s gone deep beta — and your hamster is destined to reject him. Worse yet, that kind of dating typically means too much eating and drinking — a habit that destroys your beauty.

      You want to adopt a tight purse mentality for him and yourself. Tell your prospect that you don’t want him to spend any money on you. Terrible finances — after the wedding vows — are the single most likely reason for divorce. So don’t even think about LTR with a spendaholic/ gambler.

      If you’ve got the looks — use no make up at all. Cosmetics accelerate aging in the skin. Surprisingly, men are more impressed when they can see your true nature. More than they think, women are wearing cosmetics because of female social proof, which counts for nothing for men. If you’ve got good looks show them off by going ‘nude’ in the face.

      What you’re looking for is human capital. That often means that your best prospect is broke. If he’s paying his way through school or on scholarship — you’ve hit a homerun.

      Though your impluses will go alpha — for a LTR you’re better off with an weak alpha/ strong beta. You can’t pull and hold top ranked alphas — if you could you wouldn’t be posting here. Aim for betas with some alpha traits and consider yourself blessed.

      Sexual compatibility really means that the female performs every act without hesitation or complaint that her lover desires whenever he wants it. Such playfulness is required because high quality men are uncommon, whereas the number of wanton women is vast. No man will stay with any woman that’s a bitch in bed. To marry a man is to give up your body to him entire. The flip side is that you’ve got him by the wallet — and that you’ll pass on more genes to your children than he can. ( just your sons — daughters are a push )

      If you ever wondered how you came to be — it’s because mommy let daddy do whatever he wanted — and, obviously, he wanted you.

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      • Thanks to everyone for advice.

        “To marry a man is to give up your body to him entire.”

        That’s what I’m dreaming about, but …

        “The flip side is that you’ve got him by the wallet”

        The problem is that I don’t need anyone’s wallet. I already have some money (my own, not my parents’) and it will get “worse” in the future. I can’t give up my body to a man who is less successful than I am. I want to be “inferior” in the relationship and I just can’t imagine giving myself to a man who’s lazier than I am … I will be the one who’s going to be pregnant, who will need lots of time for the babies, who will take care of the household and who will have to feel relaxed&healthy enough to have sex and be pregnant. So I can’t be the one who’s earning most of the money, too.

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  5. Flattery strategy #6: Women have to realize men think differently than they do. We have went over this a couple of posts back.
    Insincere flattery from a woman is a huge turn off.
    Women live for flattery & compliments. Men, not so much.
    And most of us know when someone is trying to run a line of bs on us.
    IOW, “don’t piss on my shoes & tell me it’s raining”.
    Especially if you want more than a pump & dump.

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  6. BTW, I don’t want to rock the Heartiste’s world but it appears that poor George Clooney has moved on to another girl. The poor guy just can’t seem to find the right one and settle down.
    .sarcasm off.

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  7. A man with game needs to start writing a dating advice column for women.
    Dating advice columns targeted at women are still terribly misinformed; they’re written by women. Women give each other the worst advice. It’s almost as if they want each other to fail…

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    • Agreed. I’d be really happy if this blog starts to offer more dating advice for us girls, also I want many more romantic love stories (Where’s the update on this story about the girl on the beach?) and stories about babies and kids (Have kids soon, Heartiste!). I don’t want to look for other blogs, because this one is hilarious and was also very helpful for me, I just want the author(s) to write about everything, not only about game. Hope they will think about it – if you care about your female audience, you will.

      [Heartiste: Babies and kids? There goes the audience.]

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      • Yes, babies, because they are cute and they are the consequence of having unprotected sex. What means “There goes the audience”? (I’m not so into English idioms and strange phrases)

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      • “they are the consequence of having unprotected sex”

        Not if the guy is fixed. Then it’s all for fun.

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      • Maya u are being a girl in a boys clubhouse.

        Cheeky little thing that you are.

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      • You’ve got to admit this is a very cute and girly comment.

        Maya,

        There isn’t going to be be any diaper game here. But there may be “many more romantic stories” and all they start with you posting pics of your tits and ass. 😉

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      • He doesn’t care about the female audience, Maya. No one does here. The target audience is males.

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      • Thats funny – ” I really like this blog, but everything should change”

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      • your feminine influence here is poison.

        you cry out for advice that you will never consider or follow, because you like the attention it gets you.

        you continually distract otherwise intelligent posters with your damsel in distress routine.

        you clog up the comment section with inanity.

        you try and tell the author to start writing about the kind of shit that can be found all over the web.

        you pipe up on every thread whining about something or batting your eyelashes for attention.

        you are not going to find an alpha to marry on this blog. you are not ever going to find one, because you don’t listen to the good advice you are given.

        There can be no dating advice blog for women because women are too stupid to follow advice from someone wiser than themselves. Women would much rather believe the pretty lies that make their lives easier, than find out the ugly truth and realize how much work they need to do on themselves.

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    • Women don’t want to hear advice, they want to hear validation.

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      • Yeah right up until we choke on it.

        At some point, a smart girl is going to seek the truth, and hopefully before she’s too old to enjoy it.

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      • A smart girl? A smart girl?? A quick look at your blog makes it obvious you are not a smart girl.

        A smart girl would not look like you do. A smart girl would not be borderline obese. A smart girl would not tempt a married man [how are you gonna take care of yourself and your kids if he’s paying for the others when he leaves them for you?]

        Smart girl?

        You got seduced by a man that made you tingle, and you fell for it. Deal with it and stop blaming others.

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      • what a pc of shit reply ..on so many levels.. you are classless judgmental and ignorant ..

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      • I’m certainly judgmental, but far from ignorant.

        Classless is debatable, and usually depends on the amount of scotch available in the room.

        Blah blah blah, fat chicks are beautiful. Fucking L – O – L

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      • I think you’re conflating “smart” with “martyr”. I’ll forgive you since they do share some of the same letters.

        A martyr, I am not. I don’t give way when I don’t have to, and I do not support a system that enslaves men.

        I may not be the prettiest woman in the world, but I am in some small way, a taste of freedom. Some can handle it. Some can’t. I used to get butthurt about those who can’t. Now I don’t.

        If you have a problem with this, then well…don’t neglect or mistreat your husband.

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      • Oh, and if I did shag your man, don’t stalk me around the internet. I can assure you that he’s not going to leave you for me for two reasons: one, you’re socially convenient and have his kids, and two, because I won’t allow him to.

        Your gravy train is safe.

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  8. Yahoo is MSM? OK. I doubt its clicks add up to the eyeballs that network TV or major national publications get- certainly not its personals column. But you could argue that Game moved into the mainstream beginning with the bestseller status of “The Game” and Mystery’s VH1 show.

    I still recall with fondness the Weekly Standard article on Game of about 18 months ago- really a great summary/primer and a great shout-out to Roissy at the height of the blog’s influernce (or not long after it). I sorta miss the old days on this board.

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    • “I sorta miss the old days on this board.”

      Yeah, used to be cool.

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    • Still a great blog. Found it after that Standard piece then read all the articles from 2007 on.

      Not sure about the new name, and wish that the Beta of the year contest was still going on.

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  9. “Flattery strategy #4: Compliment qualities that are unrelated to [her] looks”

    YES I like this.

    “Women want to think you are an exceptional man because you notice things about them most men don’t. ”

    YES!

    That is what separates one man from many. I’m not saying men should not compliment women, b/c most women love receiving compliments from the opposite sex – also compliments from the opposite sex motivate women to want to be more attractive. But a woman wants to feel special and if she does end up sleeping with a guy, she wants to feel it was the *right* guy and that she never had to even think about sex, that it just happened.

    When it’s the typical excessive complimenting that most guys would use towards a woman he is really attracted to, he starts looking suspicious or desperate.as he wants to get in her pants. That is a turn off.

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  10. Reference to the neg was impressive. Let’s see them address shit-tests next.

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  11. But these morons still advise women to run negs on men. Like if women’s unconsciously spewed shit tests weren’t enough.
    BTW, if a woman tries to neg you, address it like a shit test. Agree & amplify or simply ignore it and change topic.

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    • I thought most guys liked it when women are playful? That teasing was part of the allure? I was a terrible tease and I still am. It is part of the fun in developing and maintaining the relationship.

      I would be careful with just ignoring a gentle neg. Even one not so gentle. It is a bit of a test, to see if you have a sense of humor and can take some ribbing. At least for me, ignoring it means you can’t take it and I would loose interest (and fast). If, however, you amplify I know you can take it and not only can you take it, but you can give it back. That leads to lots of laughs and a whole lot of fun. It can also be a turn on when things switch a bit away from simple humor to thinking about sex. Sex can be a lot of fun when there is some teasing involved.

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      • There is a difference between teasing and negging.
        Teasing is always pleasant and leads to a flirtatious conversation which is always a good thing.
        A neg is supposed to kick in the hypergamous instinct of a woman and generate attraction. I generally use it on arrogant girls with attitude who know that they’re attractive.
        Women don’t need to use a neg consciously to generate attraction because a man who tries to seduce is already visually attracted. You can always use a neg as a conscious test for alpha congruency, but as I said, women already shit test unconsciously.

        As for ignoring negs or shit tests, it really depends. From your comments, you seem level-headed and somehow analytical, I would think twice before ignoring something you say. But with some girls and under some circumstances, ignoring a shit test/neg is a neg in itself, conveying something like “I will only talk to you when you say something worth reponding to”.

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      • I, in no way, disagree with ignoring a shit test. It can be a VERY effective way to pass them. (By the way, giving an appropriate look as you walk away can be devastating and will demonstrate your higher value even more). I was thinking more along the lines of playful banter, which can, at times become a bit of a push/pull situation. Maybe one could consider it a bit of a shit test, but something playful, not just plain shitty. What I tend to go for would be something along the lines of playfully bashing a mans favorite sports team, talking smack, if you will. I like to see how they will react (I don’t think I ever consciously realized I did this until recently). If they can take the banter their stock goes up in my eyes because I can tease hard and they will tease me back hard. But, it is mostly in good fun. However, when a man can’t take it, I get the feeling that I am talking to a gamma and I have zero interest in continuing the conversation. My husband and I do this all the time and it can be absolutely hysterical. Makes for fun conversation.

        Now, negs always throw me off a bit and I can see no reason, from the way you described them, for a woman to use them on men. Attraction is generated by our looks, we women must maintain it by being nice, not cruel or stupid.

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      • When I say negs throw me off, I mean I sometimes have difficulty distinguishing a neg and teasing. I know the reason each are used and I think a neg is a beautiful thing. But, the line between the two, I find somewhat confusing.

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      • Kegels are more enjoyable, though.

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      • There’s a thin line indeed.
        I’m not an expert, i’ve just read the mystery method a while ago like basically everyone else on this blog. In my understanding, the only difference is that a neg is a false disqualifier (faking disinterest), it is said more seriously and it can be downright rude. A tease does not disqualify, and is generally more playful..

        [Heartiste: Yes, that is an accurate explanation of the difference between negs and teasing.]

        Tease: “What’s your name? – Jennifer – Oh that’s unique! Is it turkish or something”
        “Can you smile? I need to see something cute”

        Neg: “i like your hair… is it real?”
        “I like your skirt… but it would suit you better if it was black”

        No beta in his right state of mind would dare throwing a neg. There are softer and tougher versions but it basically tells a girl that I’m an alpha who doesn’t give a fk. And it works more effectively on highly attractive girls, or the most bitchy ones. It usually backfires with more down-to-earth chicks.

        [There seems to be a consensus forming that negs are meant only for girls who rate 8 or higher. I disagree a little. It’s more contextual. A lower value man would be wise to drop a neg on a 6 or 7.]

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      • Thank you for your explanation. That makes perfect sense and I now understand why it would bother you that the MSM would encourage a woman to neg. Even a 10 would piss off a man trying to pull something like that.

        Your explanation of faking disinterest got me thinking . . . disinterest, to a certain extent, should not be faked. I believe that part of the reason women are so drawn to alphas is that they tend to have a focus, a drive if you will, on something more important than himself and certainly a woman. He puts this focus first in his life and everything else second (I have also seen this referred to as a mission if that makes more sense). An alpha doesn’t give a fk because he has more important things to do. This is exciting, it’s mysterious and it pulls women in. The minute his focus becomes the woman, he is beta and all attraction will be gone.

        My point is this. Women should not be your drive. The less you act like they are and treat them like they are, they more they will want to be with you. A woman wants to aid a man in completing his mission, whatever it may be. She wants to be a part of your mission and support you by making your life easier (cooking cleaning, support, whatever) and your ability to complete your mission easier. The alpha pulls us in with his drive to complete something important to him, more important than any woman (hence the disinterest) and keeps us comfortable in a LTR by letting us help him with his mission. By showing us that we make things easier for him and that he wants our help and treasures it (hence the beta bits in a good relationship).

        If you aren’t able to find that focus in your life now, fake it with disinterest, but if you can find it, you may find that you are becoming more alpha simply because of the fact that woman don’t matter like they used to. Then they will want to be all over you.

        I don’t think I am explaining myself very well as I am having difficulty finding the words to explain what I mean. But it is not just disinterest that we find attractive, it has a whole lot to do with what drives that disinterest.

        And yes, I understand that there may be some women out there who want the mission for themselves and are not interested in finding a man to supply it. For the majority, this is not so, they just don’t realize it yet.

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      • Thanks H, you’re spot on as usual.

        Stingray,
        “Your explanation of faking disinterest got me thinking . . . disinterest, to a certain extent, should not be faked.”

        Fake it til you make it applies perfectly to game. All these seduction techniques tend to melt with the core persona of the learner, and generally lead him to discover his true potential, game related and otherwise.
        Many men have lost touch with their masculinity, have no goal and have no idea how to interact with women, not because they are beyond redemption losers, but because something about their personal history, their education or their internalized beliefs made them that way (Feminism, anyone?… but not only). They only need a spark to connect the nodes in their brains, and start acting like true men.
        The reason why you find so many game enthusiasts is not only because they finally were able to get laid, but because they discovered what their role should be. They finally realized that they have to be in charge, in their interactions with women, and in other aspects of their life.
        A pep talk is never enough to pull a nerdy geek from his bedroom and lead him to make something out of his life. But showing him the way to get what he’s biologically programmed to seek (in other words: pussy), may transform him into a better man.

        However, in a courtship, a man still has to fake disinterest sometimes. He simply has to. He is attracted by a girl, he can’t help it, but he knows that acting needy is a turn-off. Sometimes, there is no alternative apart from a conscious powerful neg.
        In a meaningful relationship and even more so in a marriage, what you said makes perfect sense, but don’t forget that we are on a blog who is anti-marriage for a lot of reasons.

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      • Gilgamesh,

        This makes a lot of sense. Thank you for taking the time to talk me through some of this. I am fairly new to Game other than what I have experienced for myself in the world (and of course, at the time, I didn’t know it was game). I am glad to hear that it is often used to further a man’s life and not just his ability to pick up women. I would think that getting more women is all well and good, but if that is the only way one improves, then it wouldn’t be going far enough away from betadom.

        Faking disinterest at times also makes a lot of sense. I think there is a bit of a this veil there, though. Having a goal and manning up should be a long term goal and then everything would fall into place, not just women. Game seems like a wonderful tool to aid in the process.

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      • “That leads to lots of laughs and a whole lot of fun.”
        Both which are, of course, the most important things to modern women.

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  12. Maya,
    I have to say you are funny in a good way.

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  13. I wonder whether or not this guy’s game is good…

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  14. “What amazing deal you got at that outlet store. How did you feel when you scored that and how did you react? Who did you tell about it? You must have been wanting it for a long time. By the way, I found an amazing deal for you right here too.” *roundhouse arm swing to point to crotch*

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  15. The decline of western civilization is almost at its peak.

    Proof:

    SAN FRANCISCO (AP) – Transportation Security Administration managers at Los Angeles International Airport are undergoing mandatory sensitivity training after a transgender employee alleged she was ordered to dress like a man, pat down male passengers and use the men’s restroom.

    Ashley Yang, 29, who spent two years as a security checkpoint screener at LAX, was fired last summer after co-workers observed her using the women’s room, according to a copy of her termination letter obtained by The Associated Press. She contested the firing, resulting in a settlement that mandated the training.

    When she showed up for training, Yang was told that according to TSA regulations she would have to pat down men and was offered a position working with baggage instead of passengers. She insisted that part of the job’s appeal was working with people.

    http://is.gd/KSSiL0

    Nothing like having your government mandate that you, as a man, must undergo being groped by a tranny!

    http://uncreditedsource.com

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  16. “Flattery strategy #4: Compliment qualities that are unrelated to [her] looks”

    YES I like this.

    “Women want to think you are an exceptional man because you notice things about them most men don’t. ”

    YES

    That is what separates one man from many. I’m not saying men should not compliment women, b/c most women love receiving compliments from the opposite sex – also compliments from the opposite sex motivate women to want to be more attractive. But a woman wants to feel special and if she does end up sleeping with a guy, she wants to feel it was the *right* guy and that she never had to even think about sex, that it just happened.

    When it’s the typical excessive complimenting that most guys would use towards a woman he is really attracted to, he starts looking suspicious or desperate.as he wants to get in her pants. That is a turn off.

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  17. GamePUA infiltrating the media is great, but aren’t we increasing our own competition? It’s much easier to be alpha in a pool of betas than strive in a community made of 90% alpha males.

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    • That is somewhat accurate, but I think that you are vastly overestimating the amount of people who are willing to put in the hard work it takes to learn game.

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    • You’re confusing a learned ability with a natural one.

      If you already have necessary skill you don’t have to seek out information to acquire it.

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      • But what if suddenly everyone was very good with women? You would have to do much more than you do now to get even an average girl. Adding vast amounts of game to men’s seduction abilities without improving women’s beauty is like adding tons of money to a stable market. You would cause an inflation and, with the value of men dropping, the value of any woman will rise dramatically. This will also obviously damage natural alpha males and lower their value.

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      • Then the next chapter in evolution begins.
        The born of the UberAlpha or “a male with 2 dicks”.

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      • This is incorrect.

        At the moment average girls are already chased after, fawned over, and generally have an entitlement bubble far larger than the lunar surface. Girls that are overweight by 20, 30, 40, 50 lbs are rewarded with praise and attention through facebook, twitter, and numerous blogs. Toss up 2 or 3 angled and photo shopped pics.

        Look at that Rebecca Watson whore. She is absolutely hideous, and she has more neckbearded world of warcraft geeks after her than she can beat down with an orcish lance.

        Most of the females posters here have ludicrous irrational views on their own sexual worth.

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      • Orcs don’t have lances, duh.

        But Watson is hot. I’d hit that.

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      • Again, the sexual market is what it is. If you wouldn’t hit it, that’s just you, not the market.

        I can understand why someone would protest someone else getting laid if they can, but they stem mostly from an overinflated view of one’s own value in the market and position in the male hierarchy.

        You have to stop comparing yourself to women. Just stop. It is a horrible habit that way too many men today have taken up because of competing with women in the workplace and overexposure to women in situations wherein they are not making you a sammich or being your relatives. Were it not for feminism, you wouldn’t be privy to the sexual activity of the vast majority of women unless they were selling it.

        Then a conversation like this would conclude something like, “Susie BigBottom must charge by the pound or something.”

        Even though the game has changed, what is a masculine activity or a feminine activity has not, and measuring your options against those of females and harboring actual resentment about it is such a girl thing to do. You get yours and if you don’t want the fatties, the oldies, or the otherwise fug, just don’t do them.

        Nothing in this Universe happens that Nature does not allow. If Nature allows multiple dudes to be able to get it up for someone you can’t, then you don’t have to like it, but you will be much more at peace if you accept it. As it has been said by our host blogger here many times, “Deserve’s got nothing to do with it.”

        What you should react badly to, on the other hand, is pressure from women to steer you into the socially mandated direction. You should not be okay with settling for something harmful to you or with being told that something about you is wrong or perverse for being normal or even fetishistic so long as it’s between consenting adults.

        Being in the sort of mind state that has you comparing yourself to women though, is the slippery slope. Every guy who has settled for someone who doesn’t turn him on but is socially convenient, and is living a life of misery as a result, is writhing there in the base of that ditch. Don’t dance around the edges worrying about shoulds. Take care of what is, and do what you need to do to get what you want.

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      • Deutsch wrote: But what if suddenly everyone was very good with women? You would have to do much more than you do now to get even an average girl. Adding vast amounts of game to men’s seduction abilities without improving women’s beauty is like adding tons of money to a stable market. You would cause an inflation and, with the value of men dropping, the value of any woman will rise dramatically. This will also obviously damage natural alpha males and lower their value.

        This is a relative concept. I’m sure some econ blogger (the net is lousy with them) could provide the proper terminology. If 90% of people are over the old poverty line, you adjust the poverty line up.

        Don’t fear the widespread dissemination of the truth. It can only help. The cult of Pythagoras used to guard his triangle theorem with their lives when it was first discovered. Now every sixth-grader learns it. The Greeks built limestone temples on hills and considered them worthy homes of the gods. We build fifty-story towers and shove our minorities into them for efficient housing. In other words, truth (and freedom) raises the baseline of everything. Hoarders are easily-spooked communists.

        If you are depending on occult knowledge to get laid, you are missing a very large point.

        Just like the evolution of this website and its commentary (as discussed above: “Roissy, write a game blog for women, pretty pleeeeease!”), the spread of “game” outside of these ghetto precincts is a reflection of the culture maturing out of its institutionalized, absurd “pretty lies” and returning in fits and starts to the truth about the nature of men and women.

        Worry more about being a man and less about being one notch more manly than the competing schlub next to you. That in itself is alpha.

        Just like women seek alphas, seek alphas for your own pack. If you shun them, you’re doing it wrong. You don’t want weak beta sheeple in your orbit. The male company you seek to surround yourself with should be alphas in their own right relative to most other circles. Don’t fear the competition, competition makes you stronger, so crave it. Do you want to be the MVP of a minor league team, or a utility player in the majors? Surround yourself with weakness, you become weak and lazy.

        And should that glorious day ever arrive when “90%” of men begin acting like men again, the culture will catch up and bargains will be struck from positions of relative strength, rather than the weak appeasements and cease-fire treaties we sissified men now bring to our women crawling on our knees.

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      • “Just like women seek alphas, seek alphas for your own pack. If you shun them, you’re doing it wrong. You don’t want weak beta sheeple in your orbit. The male company you seek to surround yourself with should be alphas in their own right relative to most other circles. Don’t fear the competition, competition makes you stronger, so crave it. Do you want to be the MVP of a minor league team, or a utility player in the majors? Surround yourself with weakness, you become weak and lazy.”

        just right on king ..v nice..

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      • Perhaps alphaizing the world is good on a broader scale (for humanity and for the economy as a whole), but how is it good for me in the individual level? Does your own strength really matters when everyone else is stronger? When ruling upon weaker people it doesn’t matter how much strength either of you have, only what is the ratio.

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      • Read this board, read your own posts, and then consider whether it makes sense to worry about “too many alphas.”

        Most men who are good with women are good with women from the moment they crash out of the cunt.

        It’s easy to fuck women; it’s easy to talk to women, to play with them. Unless you feel this — that it’s all easy — you’re always going to have problems even if you learn something about game.

        Because most men don’t want to be seducers. Not at all. Most men are far too nice, esp. the intelligent ones. To be a successful seducer you cannot be nice.

        Can’t have it both ways. Real seducers understand that they will cause pain. But they are not
        sentimental about pain. Pain is the price of sharp pleasure.

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      • like playing in the NBA improves a college player – or playing with Michael Jordan ..or playing tennis w people better than you..or being in a MATH class that has great hard working and smart students..you get better or dont get to play

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      • If men rediscovered masculnity and standards the girls would follow our lead. If men no longer offered dick and commitment to waddling war pigs, girls would lose the weight and the attitudes. They respond to their incentives; change what we accept and we’ll change how they respond.

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  18. Game has been infiltrating the media for a few years now….. However the PC police always succeeds in confusing the viewer by making the PUA a looser at the end, or saying game works for women as well, or making the PUA put the main female character on a pedestal.

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    • I actually quite like that last one, plays into female notions of Alphas only being that way until “the right girl comes along”.

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  19. inspiration for the weekend

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  20. Not sure how great it is for society as a whole for this to become widely known. If all women get to know their inner hamster, will that change the sexual marketplace?

    I’m beginning to wonder if there is any way to be romantically and sexually satisfied as a woman.

    I know a few gorgeous women that are with alpha boyfriends and husbands, and they are either cheated on openly or they know it happens, and they suffer — it’s not all tingles from sexy jealousy, there is definitely agony and heartbreak too. [It’s some comfort knowing that even being a 10 wouldn’t definitely prevent me getting cheated on . . . I can aspire to solid 7-hood and that will have to be good enough.]

    And then there are the many more women who are stuck with low-SMV beta herbs, getting fat because they are not being sexually satisfied and dominated. I shudder to think about it. It seems most American couples who marry are in this category.

    My “become hot and feminine enough to snag the perfect higher beta/lesser alpha with enough ability to love and commit but enough dominance to sexually arouse me and also have some kids with” project often feels like a whole lot of work.

    I think I would be happiest in an official, stable, literal harem or plural marriage (but without the religion, YUCK). Maybe with one or two other women that I was emotionally close with (so I could have that intimacy that is in short supply with alpha men). Ironically this level of commitment to multiple women is too much to ask of a man with options these days.

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    • “I’m beginning to wonder if there is any way to be romantically and sexually satisfied as a woman.”

      hannah,

      I think some women simply have to let go of the romantic notion. Its just not happening today for the most part. Male and female relationships in the USA are just waay to beyond the point of repair. I think many women will have to make choices (1) accept either being with someone who is either high status and sought after male who will not be faithful (2) get a lower masculine good guy who may or may not fulfill your sexual desires but will feed your emotional needs (3) or being single – or as they like to call it on this forum be a cat lady lol.

      I have decided that for myself its better to be single and worry free of all the other issues you’ve brought up in your post (which are very real issues. I see it daily). The only thing really working in a woman’s favor that chooses the single cat life, is if she manages to hold onto her desirability/looks she can still find a man to have sex with to fill that void if she doesn’t want to use vibrators the rest of her days. Usually these men will be younger men. *shrugs* its a sad state of affairs in the relationship arena for women today. Not sure if we as women have created this monster, but if we did we are certainly feeling the brunt of it.

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      • This attention whore should be banned to appear here! She is trying to popularize her personal blog which is not more than blabbering and denying her slutty past!

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      • Her blog is interesting and she has no slutty past.

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      • Yup, you created this monster.

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      • “Not sure if we as women have created this monster, but if we did we are certainly feeling the brunt of it.”

        Remember those two three every woman has in her 20s? The “kind of” guys? The kind of attractive, kind of fun, kind of interesting, kind of…. not living up to that other guy 20 other women want because he’s “super” instead of “kind of”
        Thos kind of guys are the “monster” and you created it when you told all those guys “I’m sorry I don’t see you that way” or if you got mad “I don’t owe you anything”

        So yeah: I am firm believer that men (both experienced and inexperienced) act the way you want them to. In reality a woman between age 15 and 30 teaches the “kind of” guys they’re not good enough and creates this “monster” who learns that you can not have a good relationship with you women because of that hamster and the “kind of” guys inability to spin its wheel.
        So what happens? One grows colder and more manipulative.

        So yeah this market of spinning the hamsters wheel is created by you women. You obviously don’t “owe us” anything so there’s obviously nothing there to get… your problem and you know the solution.

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      • Velentin,

        I am not denying women created the monster. That was my point. its just sad that it has come to this is my point. But whatever, for every simple choice one makes in life there will be consequences – for both men and women. I am not sure men are too happy having to game lots of women to get sex, cheating on significant others and worrying about getting caught. I can imagine it must be a task and too much work at the end of the day. this is not to say you won’t do it, but I am sure if a man could have a stable relationship with a decent woman he was attracted to that he could receive sex from on a regular basis, he would prefer that b/c he wouldn’t have to do all sorts of tricks and pony shows to get laid. I always say women control the reign son sex and if women lower the bar, then men will follow. Yes I believe this is women’s fault.

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      • Well let me spin your hamster quite openly: I aplaud you on your insight and acceptance.
        Yes this hamster-spinning market is no fun for us either. The sad part is that every women I’ve met or seen on the internet like you that admits this: gets nothing but a positive response from men. You’d think it’d have some sort of ripple effect of shared insight and acceptance that we won’t hold it against you.

        Anyway: I thank you for a positive reply to me, it’s a very fresh feeling to have ones point heard and not aggressively denied or excused. Best of luck to you Neecy.

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      • I have managed to avoid crazy manipulative men for most of my life. Therefore I don’t harbor bitterness, anxiety or anger towards men. i still love men and accept certain things about men. The onus is always on the woman to protect her body and bests interests. If women choose not to do that today, then I guess its “game on!” as they say….I just choose to not put myself in the current cesspool. Its just not worth it to me.

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      • Other way around. We lead, you follow. Anything else creates the current chaos. Men are at fault for allowing the modern madness.

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      • Many, many women are both sexually satisfied and romantically fulfilled. These women usually look good and/or have good personalities.

        You are not attractive. No normal man desires sex with you or wants to pursue a romantic relationship with you. I’m sorry the truth is ugly- I’m not saying this to make you feel bad. I have no vested interest in bringing you down, it is simply objective fact.

        This is the source of your inexperience. Your personal life experience when it comes to game is limited and thus not helpful.

        For some reason you have been using this blog to justify your single status, which is flawed for two reasons. One, most guys learn game so they can attract high SMV women that are worthy of an all-in romantic relationship- very few men are pump-and-dump alphas when they’re with sufficiently high value women. Two, you shouldn’t even be seeking validation for your single status anyway- it’s like someone getting dumped saying, “I love being on my own. Really, I do.”

        My advice follows; ignore at the peril of remaining alone and neurotic for the rest of your days.

        Stop reading game blogs. You know how the game works now.

        Go to the gym.

        Stop reading game blogs. Use the internet less (you may be an addict).

        Exercise.

        Fitness blogs.

        Lose weight.

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      • ANON i am going to entertain you for a moment b/c there are some things i want to address in your post.

        LMAO at some loser on a game blog (that tells men how to get laid) telling me I am not “attractive” and “no man wants to have sex with me” GTFOH! All I can do is laugh. The fact is I can get laid a lot quicker than you, and I don’t need to have any tricks up my sleeve to do it *sticking out tongue*

        (1) Feel free to make assumptions as you wish. i know its hard to believe on a site where men have to do tricks and pony shows to get laid by low caliber and/or clueless women that there are just some of us who choose the path of least resistence and stress. Its hard for many of you to believe that there are women who are completely content with singlehood if that means less drama in her life, less risk for disease and emotional attachments to loser men manipulating her for sex.

        (2) I don’t *need* to justify my single status – it is what it is. I could easily cone on here and lie and say I am in a relationship amongst other things. I choose to announce this for women who may be lurking and on the fence about how to maneuver in this market today. IOW’s its okay as a woman to choose to remove yourself from the cesspool no matter how tempting it is to wallow in it. At the end of the day, for me, its simply not worth it.

        (3) RE: the addiction comment; You may actually be onto something!

        (4) RE: the weight loss tips: THANKS! I am working on it and looking and feeling better the more I lose. So no worries, I am getting there.

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      • “I’m beginning to wonder if there is any way to be romantically and sexually satisfied as a woman.”

        hannah,
        I think some women simply have to let go of the romantic notion. Its just not happening today for the most part.”

        It happens.
        Would happen more if the fucking cunts wouldn’t walk out on & divorce their “good guy beta” (that they created) for the bad boy that treats them like shit. Or completely ignoring the “good guy” for “billy bad ass”.

        Once a cunt has the “good guy”, suddenly “the grass is greener on the other side of the fence” & she’ll do anything she can to move on to that “pasture”.

        And ladies, saying yes once every four to six weeks will NOT leave you a “sexually satisfied as a woman”. You HAVE to spread your legs more often.

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    • that will never be a problem …to the majority of women responding and taking action because of logic and reason would be like ducks suddenly understanding water …they dont care..it is beyong capacity..and water is just a place to live and play on…

      if the water is clean or polluted it doesnt matter ..they adapt ..until something better comes along

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    • Hannah wrote: I think I would be happiest in an official, stable, literal harem or plural marriage (but without the religion, YUCK). Maybe with one or two other women that I was emotionally close with (so I could have that intimacy that is in short supply with alpha men). Ironically this level of commitment to multiple women is too much to ask of a man with options these days.

      How sad. You can’t piece together a viable replacement for marriage by reading the bathroom walls of men’s clubs (game blogs). No wonder why your lamentations are tinged with despair.

      You’ve accidentally touched on a truth, however. “Without the religion YUCK” your only option is concubinage. Without the invention of female dignity insisted by the YUCK, you are chattel. A baby basket. A hen in a pen good for my morning eggs. But you yearn for the life of a whore, you pine after an opportunity to volunteer to be one of a dozen friction cushions in the cupboard of a greasy nominal alpha.

      “A man with options” used to see his “options” limited by the laws of civility. Civilization is a girl’s best friend. Without it, your life is rape.

      Nil desperandum. We were born into the uncertainties of an era in transition. Opportunists will take advantage of the anomie and loot you for their pleasure. But only if you let them. For God’s sake, woman, don’t beg for it. This too shall pass. In the meantime there are pockets of quiet resistance if you look hard enough — and get over the yuck factor.

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      • King A is right, Hannah. If you yearn to be only a hot guy’s cum dumpster of the day, that’s all you’ll be for anyone else. And that’s how you’ll be treated by everyone else… good for a quick pump and dump, too, if your hamster get going.

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  21. [new guy] needs to stop whining about being ripped off. The bottom line is that he didn’t take credit for his work. It’s a shame, yes. You really can’t. I guess the only one that pull it off was Strauss. Well, it’s all out there, so anyone who wants to take credit for it, can and will.

    But it it starting to look BETA to constantly whine “I said that!”…and “I said that too!”

    [Heartiste: Preening is not whining.]

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  22. if she doesnt improve the content and the clarity of her writing..her blog is doomed ..unless she wants it as a sort of public journal to recieve responses of atta girl from people she doesnt or wouldnt respect about vague insights usually supported by guessing

    I’d like to see her improve and conquer ..myself ..she is likable and gets an A for effort and being fearless and tough

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  23. I read this post and found it completely wrong. Almost all the Yahoo advice items seem like total Beta begging to me.

    1. Flattery + Praise? Save it tell after the first BJ.
    2. Insider Info? How about remain mysterious and make her qualify her preferences.
    3. Congratulate your Date? Would i be impressed with one of my guy friends running in a 10k? – No. Save the congratulations for stuff that is truly impressive. Making a big deal out of her minor achievements will only confirm to her that you are a beta.
    4. Compliment other qualities? BETA BETA BETA alert. It’s like when hot girls get complimented for being smart because betas can’t control themselves, eventually they actually start to believe they are smart. Save the compliments for the BJ or compliment one of her friends to put her hamster into competition mode.

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    • You’re right. It shows you that the malleable concept of “game” can be fit over just about anything, including weak advice from “dating coach Annie Dennison, Ph.D.”

      These or any other “dating tips” — including the entire Seduction Industry — are useful only as strict observational analysis of an alpha model. Trying to reduce an alpha’s behavior into quantitative bullet points or “Sixteen Commandments” or “core concepts” is Cosmopolitan Magazine-like marketing. Men wonder, How can I be like that guy? just like women wonder how to wear their make-up like Scarlett Johansson. Well, alphas use negs and Scarlett uses Maybelline non-clumping mascara. Now go harvest the pussy, noob.

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    • This art cannot be broken down to a science and disseminated by Power Point. Game is more like the old craftsmanship, the blacksmiths and coopers and martial artists who took apprentices under their wing and passed on ancient knowledge of trial and error rather than attempting to write the Panasonic Manual of Itemized Social Knowledge, version 3.1.020. Game requires observation of the master and attempted imitation of technique, and then it is ratified by the master’s examination and correction of defect.

      The managerial revolution destroyed the ways of the apprentice and journeyman. We began classifying our knowledge and losing its essence in the vastness of undiscoverable libraries. Our will to efficiency categorizes all decision-making into binary decision trees — if X, then Y or Z — rather than relying upon the vitality of improvisation.

      This blog is best when it employs operational scenarios — here is what I did, here is what followed, here is what we all can learn — rather than trying to squeeze its artisan knowledge into a list of categorical imperatives. Poetry is more instructive than prose. Metaphor is more powerful than description. Experiences teach, directives preach. Anecdote, parable, story all stick with us while lectures and itemized information become the jetsam of our overloaded brains.

      Unfortunately, blogs are best at itemizing. The success of this site is testament to its poetic expression of real life experiences. Plenty of other places have written “The Book” on pick-up, inundating us with lists and rules and secret treasure maps to the pussy. They conduct seminars like programmers seeking the latest Cisco certificate. If you could learn to flirt through directives and tips, computers would know how to love. We acquire our social skills by observing masters, through trial and error, in literary analogy, and from a little postmortem analysis that compares our performance against the accumulated maxims of the trade.

      We learn by doing, despite the sensation of progress that accompanies simple cogitation (stimulated to a high degree in places like this website). An alpha is poet, and he doesn’t know it. There is a reason why scientists are socially awkward as a species. Put down the anthropology books and pick up Byron and Hemingway and Rousseau. Imitate what you see until it becomes second nature. If you are across the table from your date and you are thinking, “Now I Must Create Insider Info by Congratulating Her on Something Other Than Her Looks,” you are expending energy uselessly and transmitting an artificial detachment that will make her subconsciously queasy.

      The ur-trait of alpha is confidence born of relaxation. These do not come from internalizing Hints From HeloRoissise so much as personal field experience inspired by observing our superiors. In fact, knowing precisely why the magic tricks work can diminish their effectiveness: we are fixated on deconstruction when we should be focused on simple deployment. It’s important to know how to disassemble and clean your rifle, but it’s a matter of life and death knowing how to shoot it.

      Shelve the tips. Get in the ring and make a damn fool of yourself. Courage and perseverance brings humiliation but then wisdom.

      Where is the Life we have lost in living?
      Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge?
      Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?

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      • @King A,

        Beta males will not become better seducers by becoming warriors for Christ; and sluts will not be magically transformed by becoming his bride.

        Why pretend otherwise.

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      • Where in that post did I refer to Christ?

        It’s amusing how empty-souled people fixate on the faith of others once that faith is revealed to them. And when was that, several weeks back on a completely unrelated topic? Hungry to work out our salvation, are we?

        I am an unabashed confessing Christian and orthodox Catholic. This seems to be the lens through which some single-minded people are consigned to interpret every word that such an unfathomable creature utters in their presence. Such is their deficiency — a personal problem, really — not mine. They have trouble squaring a circle that exists solely in their imagination, and they expect others expend effort disabusing them (or even to be minimally interested in disabusing them) of their delusions. Until then, they carry the obsession like a pebble in their shoe.

        I would be happy to explain how faith fits with the mission of this blog more than even its author realizes. “He who has ears to hear, let him hear.” But nobody reads this site for that, this is neither the time nor the place, and I draw attention to faith only in the rare instances it is relevant in a place like this. The people who do bring it up are the ones who presume we faithful are their little compliant targets who exist solely to confirm their prejudices. Once brought up, I am not going to be timid and retreating.

        Some moral retard’s smug faith in an ill-considered, fifth-hand atheism hardly merits a reply. Or worse: he is no atheist but hides his faith, not knowing how to — or is simply afraid to — defend it. Chances are the former, since atheists are the only believers who nakedly posit the belief that their faith has transcended the need for apologetics. Things are the way they say they are because … they say they are. This how deep their inquiry goes, this is the shallow foundation of all they proclaim. Like women who expect their unexamined idiocies to be respected just … just … because.

        Yes, many are interested in becoming mere seducers — tricksters and players and servile cads. Knock em dead, cowboy. Others are interested in becoming men in full. This is not easy in an era when men are at their lowest stature in history, and remain there by their own choice. A substantial part of being a man is his ability to maneuver among women, but it is hardly a program for life. The webmaster’s posts on politics and science and unrelated cultural trivia is a reflection that there is more to wisdom than getting some bimbo to make your dick spit. What’s sad isn’t the poverty of answers out there so much as the complete unawareness of the questions.

        Is there something more to tell them besides: Go read Mystery Method, young men! And drink deep from the well of life! …?

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      • Amen

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  24. “Perhaps an honest look at the negative externalities of mass third world migration”

    I didn’t know Anders Breivik was allowed to blog while in a solitary pen.

    [Heartiste: So is it your contention that pointing out the facts of mass third world immigration is equivalent to shooting up a crowd of campers? Jes’ trying to get a handle on how you pathetic lefties think.]

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    • where do you get your info from (most of your political links are social tabloids-EG daily mail)? the worlds greatest empires (rome, GKs mongolia, imperial britain, pre-GS-concubine US) rose to stratospheric socio-economic heights largely by capitalizing on initiating or increasing globalization, open borders and immigration from other countries 3rd world and otherwise. I’ve never heard a legit economist or policy strategist say immigration per se was socially harmful. you sound like those unemployed east euro neo-nazis and tea partiers who blame their lack of success on an immigrant w a better job. as for “left wing”, only simpletons speak in such B&W brushstrokes.

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      • as for your initial question, im not sure i equivocated you, although you must admit if AB were reading your blog, you might have been in his footnotes. something to be proud of, yes?

        [Heartiste: People killed in the name of Marx’s ideology. Is he completely discredited to dyed-in-the-wool lefties? Rhetorical.]

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      • on August 6, 2011 at 9:29 pm Zone Defense

        A good friend, American, moved to Sweden some years ago. He is very much a Left Liberal by American standards, which is part of why he moved to Sweden. He is nothing less than horrified about the condition of the third world slums that the Swedes have inflicted on themselves for no good reason. These neighborhoods are sources of crime, they consume government services, and add nothing of value to Sweden.

        My friend’s liberal values have been shaken to the core seeing this over the last two decades. The problem is real.

        Who gets to live in a country is a legitimate topic for discussion and democratic resolution. Attempts to silence legitimate debate don’t make the problem go away. Instead, “shooting the messenger” opens up the field to fanatics and mental cases who cannot be shamed or bullied into silence.

        “Student’s” attempt to vilify anyone who even wants to discuss this issue, and to use the still dripping blood of all those murdered people as a political gimmick, is a classic, and despicable, example of what is wrong with this debate.

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      • “Student’s” attempt to vilify anyone who even wants to discuss this issue…

        Um, “Student” is apparently a Libertard, and there is no reasoning with Libertard’s, since it is a ‘religion’ to them.

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      • Well, Karl Marx is jerkoff material to them.

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      • The only cure for LIBERALISM is for liberals to live those policies… the reason the idea grows so easily and is defended is elite supporters draw power from distributing others wealth ..without ever having to experience the swamp created from those policies.

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      • Exactly… they like making other people equal, not being equal themselves. (As Orwell said, some are more equal than others.)

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      • Zone Defense

        My friend’s liberal values have been shaken to the core seeing this over the last two decades. The problem is real.

        And, the problem is exacerbated by Liberals’ pious refusal to repudiate their religion.

        The consequences of such deadly lateness are epitomized by a twenty-year refusal to even SEE the problem.

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      • Lol, he was so shaken that he had to stay for twenty years to make sure.

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      • Readers here definitely care about what you haven’t heard. Give up some evidence supporting MODERN success that resulted from non-exploited immigrants or foreign nationals and then make an argument for any immigration or outsourcing.

        “They work harder for less” is decidedly not in line with your supposed values, also not PC, but it seems like the only point you can make. Unless you want to jump on the overpaid, lazy, fat American band wagon. Maybe head to Wisconsin and fight against unions in your free time. Here is a Chomsky quote from five seconds of googling, he suggests you stay in the coffee house and let H do his good works.

        “One can, of course, take the position that we don’t care about the problems people face today, and want to think about a possible tomorrow. OK, but then don’t pretend to have any interest in human beings and their fate, and stay in the seminar room and intellectual coffee house with other privileged people. Or one can take a much more humane position: I want to work, today, to build a better society for tomorrow — the classical anarchist position, quite different from the slogans in the question. That’s exactly right, and it leads directly to support for the people facing problems today: for enforcement of health and safety regulation, provision of national health insurance, support systems for people who need them, etc. That is not a sufficient condition for organizing for a different and better future, but it is a necessary condition. Anything else will receive the well-merited contempt of people who do not have the luxury to disregard the circumstances in which they live, and try to survive.”

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      • “Give up some evidence supporting MODERN success that resulted from non-exploited immigrants or foreign nationals and then make an argument for any immigration or outsourcing.”

        Canada, for one.

        [Heartiste: Canada skims off the high IQ. Only recently has the immigrant stock been shifting non-anglo. Give it time.]

        Switzerland, for another.

        [Switzerland is primarily German, with a French minority and a smaller Italian minoirty. Not much daylight between them.]

        As for the rest. You citing chomsky is interesting in that you pervert it as if to say that chomsky and that quote serve to support H and his ilk and undermine me. Why don’t you go find a quote by chomsky or ANY LEGIT scholar that argues that immigration creates social problems and economic hardships. christ, i don’t know whats more disturbing, the sheer scale of neo-ntlist corporatist (defn of fascism, btw) dogma, or the fact its cloaked in the pretensions of solving real-world “problems” for the benefit of mankind.

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      • Nice evidence. How many borders do those two countries share with massive third world shitholes? Spare me the self-hating USA jokes about poor Canada sharing a border with us. You bring no evidence, you name drop two countries that have never experienced true modern mass immigration. What makes those two countries a success? Canada takes in plenty of immigrants, but they also turn them away if they don’t qualify. They don’t take the uneducated, unemployed, or criminals. One does not simply walk into Montreal. Is taxable income the only marker of success? What about ability to integrate or adhere to the laws of a country? How does Switzerland and Austria actually feel about their Muslim immigrants?

        Find out for yourself
        https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/12/03/austrian-politician-has-heavy-sack/

        Chomsky and other legit scholars never directly say anything un-PC because they don’t recognize people as valueless. I could go linking to IQ demographic studies and what intellectuals have to say about them and by proxy the immigrants who fall within them. But I really don’t care about providing your post graduate school enlightenment. It will come soon enough.

        The Chomsky quote directly addresses public aid, healthcare, and the deficiencies of modern policy makers in solving them. To me it clearly addressed the assertions of racism in the comments, what some call racism others call common sense. It applies to H’s opinions, anecdotal evidence, and practice of real world man:women interaction. Maybe I should’ve just included the final part of the quote so as not to confuse you. People here will continue to show you contempt because we as a group can pick apart your pathetic beliefs faster than you can experience cognitive dissonance. Many posters have different philosophies and backgrounds, but they can all find at least some part of the feminist/anti-confrontation indoctrination present in higher education to rally against.

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      • on August 6, 2011 at 8:24 pm Big Game Hunter

        I might point out that what the Mongol, Roman or British empires, or the US of A back in the day of its youth, did not do with their immigrants was
        Step 1) Allow in vast masses of people from far less advanced cultures and then allow them to act out their cultures, indeed, even supporting it and actively opposing integration with Mongol/Roman/British culture.
        Step 2) Build social security programs to fund said immigrants’ unemployed life so they have enough money to buy apartments and food and have all the free time in the world for things like, oh, complaining about how much their host countries – who fund their life entirely – suck and how racist they are, and, crime and religious extremism.
        Step 3) Multicultural heaven of love and brotherhood, where the economy rises like a rocket and the people are just filled to the bursting point with love over all cultural and ethnic barriers. .

        Instead, a large percentage of the “third world” immigrants to the empires of old were brought in as slaves without practically any human rights at all. Is that the kind of model we want to follow, here, today, eh? Well, probably not. If some 3rd worlder managed to immigrate in on their own instead of as a slave, chances are they were merchants or some kind of worker, and were able to support themselves and their families financially, ‘cuz Rome doesn’t do monthly social security handouts for people who don’t wanna work or don’t have any skills anyone is willing to pay money for. At best, you’d get the populares-minded politicians organizing public feasts where even poor folks could get bread and other filling for their empty stomachs – which would then make them think well of the politician who organized the whole thing – or the more official free grain handouts for poor people that were done by the senate or later caesars. See a pattern? They might, sometimes, give people food, maybe even so much that one could survive with it, even comfortably sometimes. They wouldn’t give them money, certainly not frequently, every darn month or week as is done these days. And please don’t get back here with examples on how GJC or (insert name of rich statesman here) gave every citizen or anyone who happened to be around in Rome at the time a sum of money as a present for one reason or another, typically celebration of some great victory or to gain more popular support. Those were not the rule, they were the exceptions. Which is why they worked.

        Or the United States in its infancy? The old US of A did not have vast social security programs for immigrants. You had to pretty much take care of yourself. But then, there was lots of free space and room in the economy, and low-skilled workforce was in demand. Not like today.

        And the US is hardly the worst offender. How about Sweden, Norway or Finland? You can come in here without the ability to even read or write, and stay for as long as you bloody well want, and the working taxpayer funds your slacking around. And to thank them, you can then call ’em racis’ and demand more money and to be given free jobs, preferably the highly paid kind where you can sit around without working and net a whole lot of dough. Say, “multicultural advisor” or “multicultural consultant”. You don’t have to learn the language, you don’t have to work, and you don’t have to do shit. All you have to do is try to get in until they grant you asylum for whatever BS lie you made up to fool the authorities, who, by the way, will never punish you even if it turns out your story was a bunch of lies. This is the kind of 3rd world immigration we’re getting and complaining about. That stuff destroys a society and sure as hell increases racism. I’ve known people who went from multiculturalist to genuine racist in a couple of years, simply by starting from never having seen an immigrant of this kind and then living next to a bunch of them for a couple of years. Before that experience, these people were literally shaking with excitement at the thought of more immigrants to the country. They thought it would improve everything in every way, increase “creativity and innovation”, put excitement and “colour” on the streets and what not. And after a few personal experiences, these people turn out cursing said immigrants to the lowest pits of hell, naming them barbarians and animals. How about that. Of course, for some people, personal negative experiences work the other way. I know a girl (woman) who was raped by an immigrant who was, before that experience, pretty neutral on the whole immigration issue, but afterwards turned into a fanatic multiculturalist & open borders advocate. Humans are amusing at times.

        The point here isn’t that people of (insert random colour, nationality etc) are evil or something. The point is that allowing in a whole bunch of people who don’t have anything meaningful that is needed to contribute to the host society is retarded and harmful.

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      • lazy workers, youd find as many on the domestic front as immigrant. probably moreso (hint, its why immigration is often needed in the first place). as for your friend who was raped by an immigrant. you want to use that as an example about how immigration is bad? you are a pretty good example of what is wrong w ppl whove posted in response to me. you are clearly a bigot. you justify your bigotry by laughably bad examples that usually consist of “i saw a colored/different cultured person do (or not do X), therefore most ppl who crossed the border are like this”.

        its like saying, “im reading this blog trying to pick up chicks, and i see all these dumb ass tea party types hating on immigrants. ergo, americans are fucking racist! ”

        and uh, immigration (“allowing in a whole bunch of people who don’t have anything meaningful that is needed to contribute to the host society”) doesn’t work the way you think it does. call up an immigration lawyer if you actually care about mitigating your ignorance on this issue.

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      • on August 9, 2011 at 2:55 am Big Game Hunter

        Wow, that was richer than I expected. And not in a good way.

        Student: “lazy workers, youd find as many on the domestic front as immigrant. probably moreso”

        Oh, so because we have domestic lazy workers already, that’s an argument for importing more lazy workers into the country from foreign markets? By this kind of fridge logic, I guess we should also aim to import known criminals from other countries, since, you know, we already have domestic criminals anyway.

        I’m sure there was a reasonable argument in there somewhere. Or not. But then, when you view the actual statistics on immigrant employment, you quickly discover that certain groups of immigrants just don’t end up working as much as would be needed for them to make a net positive contribution to society. Toss a German into Belgium, and it’s pretty likely that he’ll get working soonish. Toss a random third worlder into the first world and it may get less likely, especially if said immigrant is an illiterate woman. Especially in a country where social security makes it possible for you to just refuse to work and still get enough money to live in far greater comfort than would be possible with the same effort in one’s own country.

        Student: “(hint, its why immigration is often needed in the first place).”

        Sure, sometimes mass immigration is needed. Like, say, if you got a huge empty tract of land in a new-born nation that needs tons of low-skill workforce to build everything. Hint: Even in such a case, though, you don’t want the kind of immigrant who doesn’t end up working but just sucks up on social security. If you’re seeking highly trained workforce, then importing illiterates from Africa may not be such a good idea, especially if you allow them social security so they don’t need to even learn anything that might get them employed eventually in order to survive financially.

        Student: “as for your friend who was raped by an immigrant. you want to use that as an example about how immigration is bad?”

        No, I don’t want to use it as an example of how immigration is bad, and she also wasn’t my friend, just a person I know. I use it as an example of how people I’ve seen have reacted to personal negative experiences about immigration. Some people go racist when they have bad experiences, and some people go “YAY MULTICULTURAL LOVE”. That’s how people are. What I said about those folks who went racist after negative experiences was to point out the kind of immigration that people in general are whining about and the kind of immigration that turns people racist. They’re not whining about Indian doctors or Polish computer programmers, the kind of immigrant the multiculturalists tend to most advertise as the kind we’d be getting. They’re whining about the kind of social security tourist that comes in and causes trouble.

        Student: “you are a pretty good example of what is wrong w ppl whove posted in response to me. you are clearly a bigot. you justify your bigotry by laughably bad examples that usually consist of “i saw a colored/different cultured person do (or not do X), therefore most ppl who crossed the border are like this”.”

        You seem like the sort of person who’s very quick to jump into conclusions about other people. If they don’t seem to agree with you, you appear to file them under “Ignorant Bigots” and ignore anything they might actually say, valid or no, reasonable arguments or no, and misread and twist everything they’ve said in a way that suits your agenda, like what you did with the raped girl going multiculture supporter. Well, if that’s what it takes to make you feel superior or righteous, it’s no big offence compared to what some other people in history have done to achieve the same feelings.

        My justification for opposing immigration to my country is that it’s harmful to me and the other folks who live here, including the honest working immigrants. There are immigrant groups here with over 50 % unemployment, and entire groups (by nationality) where practically none of their women are part of the workforce, but all eat up social security happily. If that sort of thing isn’t a problem for your kind, I can live with that. I still want such immigration stopped, though, and if someone calls me a racist bigot because of that, they’re… well, a little short on Indians in their canoe.

        And it’s not just the social security tourist immigrant that’s the problem. In a country like this, even the honest worker immigrant can be a problem, dragging down wage levels and displacing domestic workers in their own damn country because employers know they can treat the immigrant workers worse than the domestic one, due to unions and cultural factors. There’s no shortage of workforce here when there’s hundreds of thousands of educated people across practically all fields of business and profession in unemployment. So, if you bring us a non-working immigrant, he’s leech off social security and cost tax-payers money. And if you bring us a working immigrant, chances are that’ll make one domestic tax-payer an unemployed person. Lovely.

        Student: “its like saying, “im reading this blog trying to pick up chicks, and i see all these dumb ass tea party types hating on immigrants. ergo, americans are fucking racist! ””

        Then again, I’m not saying immigration is bad because a bunch of folks I know ran into bad immigrant individuals. I’m saying it’s bad because it’s statistically a fact that it’s harmful, costing us more than it benefits us.

        Student: “and uh, immigration (“allowing in a whole bunch of people who don’t have anything meaningful that is needed to contribute to the host society”) doesn’t work the way you think it does. call up an immigration lawyer if you actually care about mitigating your ignorance on this issue.”

        Ah, so enlighten me, student. How does immigration “work”? I don’t know how it works in la-la land or America, but over here, immigration works pretty much like this:

        Lots of people try to come in the country from other countries. These people include skilled workers, rich pensioners looking for a quiet place to camp in for their declining years, and social security tourists who have nothing to contribute to society (and this is the most disliked type of immigration, and the kind I referred to when I spoke of people with nothing to contribute – hopefully you weren’t carrying the idiot ball and assuming that I meant that my definition for the word “immigration” is “people with nothing to contribute coming in”). The latter group typically comes in as all kinds of asylum-seekers, claiming to seek shelter from whatever’s going around in their native land. Interestingly enough, instead of stopping in the first “safe” place, they seem to head right the hell out to the country with the best social security and easiest entrance. Now, the local authorities, aka The Man, then decide which immigrants can legally stay around. Unfortunately, in this country, tons of the social security seeking immigrants get to stay and get citizenship. And that costs the nation money, and buys us… yes, what exactly? Increased crime and clash of cultures?

        What about that is ignorant on my part? Are you trying to say social security seeking immigrants don’t exist? That they aren’t allowed to stay in countries? What the hell are you saying? Do you even know yourself, or are you just here to toss out vague arguments of “you’re wrong in some unspecified way and you need to read more school books” and point fingers and yell “bigot-racist-nazi”?

        LOL.

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      • the worlds greatest empires (rome, GKs mongolia, imperial britain, pre-GS-concubine US) rose to stratospheric socio-economic heights largely by capitalizing on initiating or increasing globalization, open borders and immigration from other countries

        Utter bullshit. Mass immigration to Mongolia? LMAO! Mass immigration to imperial Britain? Try mass EMIGRATION from Britain (to North America, Australia, New Zealand, etc.) The number of immigrants in Britain before 1945 was trivial.

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      • Try mass EMIGRATION from Britain (to North America, Australia, New Zealand, etc.) The number of immigrants in Britain before 1945 was trivial.

        Yes, so soooo indisputably true.

        In fact it was when Britain started “welcoming” more “diversity” that British national greatness started it’s precipitous (and massive) decline.

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    • And so it begins. “Student” is all you need to read, the rest is fill-in-the-blank with any random page of Negri and Hardt’s “Empire.”

      At what point in your Studentship will you study logical fallacies, like, I dunno, say, guilt by association?

      Those Norwegian kids were calves in a corral waiting to be slaughtered thanks to “simpletons” like you who are so suspicious of “such B&W brushstrokes” that you have educated yourself right out of ability to acknowledge what’s in front of your face. For instance, disarming the police and rounding up guns means fish in a barrel for psychos, not the magical evaporation of violence.

      There is truth in “bigoted caricatures” for those not cowed by the patchwork platitudes you’ve pieced together and labeled an education (so that you might troll blogs and look down on the lumpenproles). Some of us have an ability to distinguish what’s true among mere prejudice, and so we refrain from lazily declaring our opposition bigots by definition.

      You are doing well, student. Whoever is “teaching” you is training you in the tradition — identify dissension and bleat like it’s Invasion of The Body Snatchers when you find it.

      But you should know, we don’t suffer your shit here. Truth is worth hurting your feelings for. Next time bring something more substantial than noticing the superficial similarities of the big meanies you don’t like. We welcome your critique, wherever it’s coming from. But if you can’t manage anything better than a weak peep about Anders Breivik, you’d be better off taking your little field study back to the cozy confines of DailyKos. Don’t wander too far from campus, son. You’re not quite ready yet.

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      • “You are doing well, student. Whoever is “teaching” you is training you in the tradition — identify dissension and bleat like it’s Invasion of The Body Snatchers when you find it.”

        yessir, my big oil and intl corp law firm funded grad school is training me well to think critically and reject bigots and bigoted ideology. these companies also have strict policies not to hire immigrants because they rape people and steal your tax dough while chillin at home makin tortillas from FFA cornmeal. those black and asian people you sometimes see at shell, well, they are just front staff to mollify those PC marxists and their affirmative action communist conspiracy agendas.

        [Heartiste: You’re a cliche. You should, like, do something about that.]

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  25. The MSM will continue to steal core game ideas without crediting the authors, present them in a diluted and confused form, and stay away from the more ideologically dangerous ones.

    This advice, for example, is nothing that a well-indoctrinated beta couldn’t mentally twist into an affirmation of his feeble behavior.

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  26. Student simpered:

    I didn’t know Anders Breivik was allowed to blog while in a solitary pen.

    I didn’t know you wanted to experience “humanitarianisms” for YOURSELF by moving to 18th Street in LA.

    Say “hola” to MS-13

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    • hey moron, I’ve been to e-LA. you might see a gang w some guns as evidence black people are bad and should have never been shipped to the US to be slaves for your ancestors. me, i see more at play than your bigoted caricatures.

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      • Addicted to self-importance, I see.

        GK’s mongolia being immigrant friendly — LOL.

        Put down the bong.

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      • hey moron, I’ve been to e-LA. you might see a gang w some guns as evidence black people are bad and should have never been shipped to the US to be slaves for your ancestors. me, i see more at play than your bigoted caricatures.

        Don’t ya just love it when types like “Student” get “Internet Tough Guy Syndrome” to compensate for lack of it in real life?

        Lol.

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      • Get back in summer school kid – you’re 7th grade remedial Social Studies teechur wants to sex you.

        btw 18th Street and MS-13 are Hispanic gangs in LA.

        Those dominate that city – not your Oppressed Black Hero Gangs ™

        GO Palin 2012!

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      • “GO Palin 2012!”

        beautiful. this made my day. funny thing is, you’re probly proud of it:)

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      • Nah, YOU can be proud of all your crazy “historical” comparisons – and how well “the dawgs” will accept these, your lessons, when you move into a Compton ‘hood to start your Missionary Work.

        DO let us know how you fare.

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      • btw, since you are so shook by culturally identifiable street gangs: where i come from, HAs “run the city”.

        by your logic, you should move the fuck back to liverpool or E germany or wherever youre from.

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      • Good, so go move in next to them, then…
        (or whatever brown-skinned gang is in power this week)
        and convert your beloved HAs.
        With Liberal Peace Rainbows

        Put your money where your mouth is
        instead of using OTHER taxpayers’

        As for me, “eGermany” sounds great.
        Less black mold …and beaners.

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  27. Not to mention the Criminal Minds episode about the serial killer using Game to get victims…

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  28. I find it really hard to distinguish the anonymous voices around here, can there be SOME creativity when making up a handle? Anony1, Anony2 etc etc would even be helpful. It’s not like Firepower gives his real identity away right?
    (although you can give it to me anytime FP).

    Come on guys/gals help a reader out.

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    • Yeah, I know, I liked being red Anonymous (scarce enough) and you could tell the other blue Anonymouses apart by their pattern. But the classic video game-styled characters doesn’t do anything for me.

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      • Is it a guy thing to connect the picture with the writer? I do if its an actual pic, but not if it’s these weird images which seem so back in the day.

        I’m pretty naive, but it’s recently come to my attention that many people who comment are actual double and triple identities of people we’d know by different handles. Men pretending to be women, vice versa. So now I don’t know what to believe anymore.

        One reason I put pictures on my blog back in 09′ when I started was to ensure readers knew I was a woman and datable, it backed up the claims I was making. Why I’m so intent on being myself online is another question. Perhaps I could make up an alpha male character and have the girls swooning for my attention.

        Like this:

        PoonStar

        Dudes, you gotta quit ur beta ass fuck-up-ery and drink the cool-aid of the alpha. Neg that bitch until she’s on her knees begging for your jizz. Pull ur aloofenator moves outta your buttholes and get with the fuckin’ program.

        How’s that? 😉

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      • Well, aoefe, it’s making me think that maybe your “alpha” pal is leaving you a little itchy.

        And nothing’s easier than making a naughty smarty-pants like yourself beg.

        So, yes, I like it. I love a horny bitch. 😉

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  29. Preeening. Whining. I guess it’s just painful for me to see someone so talented not being able to take credit for his work. Society is utter bullshit. There has been more insightful, scientific, rational, objective thinking here than in MOST PhD science research departments. Instead of getting recognition, you need to change handles and be reduced to pointing out the countless times you are eventually and inevitably ripped off. It’s an artistic and poetic tragedy. If it makes ME sick, I can’t image what it feels like for the artist himself.

    Why not figure out a way to be able to properly cash in? Look at David D’Angelo. I always wondered how that douchebag managed his real life dating when his creepy identity (PUA coach) was a Google search away. Well, it’s Eben W. Pagan, and a Google search shows that he can clearly just dismiss The D’Angelo stuff all as “business”. Just like Howard Stern does. It’s just a persona. Hey, I make money, the idiots pay, and he goes from CREEP to GENIUS. Yea, he’s got millions in income top justify it. Guess what? Even the most hardcore skeptic Feminist can’t argue with his millionaire’s mansion. Money justifies ANYTHING. Even being a creepy non-PC PUA douche. Strauss was clever in reporting the whole thing as an innocent bystander journalist, and not the creepy internet forum geek he really is/was.

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  30. OT: War of the Worlds with Tom Cruise fucking sucks asshole! And not in a good way. The original is so much cooler even though it’s what, 50 years old?
    Student, the downfall of any nation can be attributed, in part, to disruption of it’s traditional norms. America was a country with a strong Puritan work ethic that said you get up everyday and work hard. Hence, we used our vast natural resources to dominate the world culturally for awhile. Then came liberalism. Free love etc. The destruction of the nuclear family, one man one woman=stable society in which to raise future generations, is on full display along with the consequences. Muslims are not your friends, communists are not your friends. Man will create order out of chaos. Do you want to be on top or bottom? There is no middle ground. As an aside: go fuck yourself.

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  31. awesome — off topic .. but then again is it..

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  32. Yep, I agree with the teasing and qualification.

    Good to see this out in the mainstream media.

    Hopefully it will reduce the number of suck up chodes.
    American and Canadian women are generally low quality and its a tragedy that guys still treat them like princesses.

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  33. FYI…

    “If You’re Going to Falsely Tell Cops a Guy Sexually Assaulted You, Don’t Get Caught on Camera Announcing Your Plans,” by Richard Connelly, HoustonPress, 5 Aug 2011
    http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2011/08/sexual_assault_false_claim.php

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  34. Student exhibits the average thought process of humanities/SS students at “elite” US universities. I find that the people most able to see the current cultural malaise were those raised in traditional families who see the carnage of single motherhood all around them.

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    • Student’s view: Families are racist and patriarchally oppressive, children don’t need that because they have the state– except for mine, those poor people just don’t know what they’re doing and need my… er, expert help. (Student, this is why our founding fathers thought limited government was a good idea.)

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    • translation: the people most able to analyze complex socio-economic issues

      [Heartiste: “are those whose worldview I most agree with.”]

      are not those tutored at the worlds best schools,

      [Credentialist suckup. You notice that it was those tutored at the world’s best schools who got us into this clusterfuck?]

      but those raised in literal or metaphorical trailerparks

      [Anti-white racist. Giveitaway, giveitaway, giveitaway.]

      who justify their anger at their shitty situation by blaming easy targets and racist caricatures rather than their pathetic selves.

      [Or maybe the underclass and their enablers really are to blame for some of the shitty situation. You should try being more open-minded.]

      as for “cultural malaise”, its easy to see that which you create, n’est pas?

      [Are human population groups interchangeable?]

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  35. Heartiste,

    OT, but it has a bit to do with your twitter post “‘Lovemaking’ porn seems to be experiencing a surge in popularity. Sign of bad economic times?”

    Do you think the depression we are in could see a decrease in the divorce rate and an increase in marriage?

    [Heartiste: Yes, but it would depend on how badly each sex gets hit by the downturn. If women manage to stay relatively better employed than men, even a prolonged depression won’t fully reverse the gutting of marriage.]

    I would think that marriages may have to stay together to survive in these coming economic times and that women may become more keen to marry for security. Also, if this happens, could it be the beginning for changing the divorce laws for the better for men?

    [We’ll see. The current cultural zeitgeist is so entrenched it would take a really nasty tailspin to right the ship.]

    Or

    Could it do just the opposite and might we see more men losing their jobs and fewer women because “We must do it for the children” BS?

    [The animal always lashes out most violently when it is cornered.]

    I am hoping for the latter as women tend to hold the jobs that are not necessary for society to survive. Thoughts?

    [Women don’t create. They recreate. A market of economically disaffected men can’t run on HR departments forever. Left to its own devices, a female-centric economy will fizzle out to grass hut status within a few generations.]

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    • Heartiste,

      Wow, I meant I hope we see the former for the exact reasons you stated. Sorry about that. As the government begins to cut back, as well as companies, those jobs that do not create should be the first to go. HR being about the most worthless department in any company.

      With only anecdotal evidence to go by, I wonder how much of a stink women will put up. I have seen many reluctantly admit that they wish they had made the decision to stay home but now feel they can’t because they are not willing to give up many of their things. Forced to do so may actually be a blessing.

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      • This has been brewing since HR became a profession/industry unto itself that cut across other industries… totally parasitic, doesn’t support itself or otherwise add value– we just can’t afford it anymore.

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  36. Cuckold play is today what swinging/swapping was in the ’70s…

    “Take My Wife, Please,” by Kai Ma, Nerve, 24 Apr 2007
    http://www.nerve.com/dispatches/ma/cuckold

    “The bull needs to exemplify masculinity in ways that Kurt cannot. He needs to be not only better endowed, but also alpha enough to make Kurt feel small, both physically and psychologically. … But Kurt, who enjoys submitting to the bull’s larger penis and his wife’s high sex drive, says his sexual passivity is more a role than the reality. He can personify the beta male role, even eroticize it, because he knows he’s not inherently inferior to other men.”

    What kind of man likes seeing a more agressive man with a bigger dick have up protected sex with his wife while she screams “Cum in me, you bastard!” and will probably leave him, take half his money and otherwise ruin him in the divorce?

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    • And, of couse, my happy ass can’t type… that’s “unprotected sex” like bareback with no rubber.

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    • These testicle-impaired omegas have actually a competitive hindbrain. It’s sperm wars in action, they are excited to send their little soldiers to bravely challenge the alpha’s seed.
      In a normally constituted man, the anger of raising another man’s child outweighs the excitement of a seminal call of duty.
      Overanalyzing it doesn’t hide the obvious, these men are not role models..

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  37. […] Heartiste – “Identifying Sluts: The Science“, “How to Deal with a Girl Gaming You“, “Beta of the Month“, “Another Feminist Myth Debunked: Women’s Sex Drive is Not as Strong as Men’s“, “The Mainstream Media is Beginning to Accept the Truth of Game” […]

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  38. How do I make frequent pauses during a conversation? Won’t that make the conversation choppy or boring?
    Can someone please link to a youtube video that is a perfect demonstration of pausing during conversation? Thanks.

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    • ^ You simply stop talking after a sentence. Really… You just asked this question? Silence is where game happens. Let everything else take control and use your other tactics, body language, kino, shit whatever. Wait for her to break the pause. Conversation is only boring if YOU live a boring life. Get outside your house and go do shit. Get interesting stories, do awesome things.

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  39. To be blunt most game is just common sense & biology sprinkled in with manipulation to get a woman to act according. I often wonder if guys are so indept at relationships/communicating with the other gender or expect to just ask out a girl and she says yes that they actually need it or do they buy game for the manipulation sprinkles.

    1. Game concept stolen: Qualification.
    Yeah not really a game concept people prefer those that are genuinely interest in them and some prefer the ones that are a bit of a puzzle as they like challenges.

    2. Game concept stolen: Secret world.
    That’s called bonding creating a secret world is nothing more than finding common ground or building something memorable to share that’s personal

    3. Game concept stolen: Emotional connection. (Ignore the part about congratulating her. Just ask leading questions that get her emotions traveling in the right, i.e. sexual, direction.)
    I often wonder why guys need to be told to be interesting & create an emotional connection to get women. That should be common knowledge that for girls if you want to be a romantic partner she has to have feelings towards you and want to get to know you.

    4. Game concept stolen: Ignore her beauty.
    I really wonder if most guys don’t get it that women are already aware the reason you’re tlking to us/interested in us is because you find us attractive or want sex. So ignoring the beauty is just skipping over unnecessary info. To dwell on ttractiveness makes it harder to time if he’s just looking for sex or is just attracted to her so most girls go oh he’s just bsing me.

    However in game instead of just ignoring it most guys are taught to find a flaw & talk about it or treat her less than you would another girl.

    5. Game concept stolen: The neg.
    Sadly this is where manipulation sprinkles come in. Pkayful teasing is teasing friends do after they earned the right to do so by standing by your side and/or bonding. Game teasing akax neg is all about devaluing a girl, making her seek your validation, exposing her insecurities in a cool way that is a backhanded insult that she can’t really complain about lest she look overly sensitive.

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    • I often come up with similar question marks regarding women.

      I mean, it’s common knowledge, and plain as day, that women who make an effort to be pretty, feminine, trim, and nice, are rewarded with top-quality men who provide luxurious lifestyles for them.

      So then imagine my surprise, when every time I leave the house, I’m assailed from all sides by obese, bitter, antagonistic, promiscuous, irritating, indulgent, capricious, demanding, offensive, masculine women! What can they possibly be thinking?! Are they stupid?!

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      • Men and women have been sold a bill of goods when it comes to relationships and their own self worth. Feminism ruined it for ‘real girls’, and the betanization of men ruined it for men. How did it get perpetuated? Mass media i.e. TV. Have you watched sitcoms?

        Back in the day men and women didn’t have small fringe groups taking over communications to convince us we were all too…something. Men you’re too dominating, women you’re not dominating enough. yada yada yada.

        Bloggers have become the real ‘reality’ shows and it’s important to check out a large number of them to seek the truth. Personally I choose ones that make me question what I know, not reinforce it. I hated this place (09′) when I first arrived, thankfully a quest for learning and not being afraid to change allowed me to sift through some of the gunk and see some truth.

        I think their are women haters here (some are fake trolls) and that’s sad but there are real men here genuinely seeking answers in regards to how to have what they’re desiring. Some men want hot pump and dumps and some want hot ltr’s. There’s a way to improve chances and it’s a frame of mind. Doing a-z doesn’t guarantee results, but changing your frame of reference will.

        (aoefe fluff coming to a blog near you)

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      • Thanks.
        You know we all loved you instantly
        for your cheerful disposition
        warm sense of humor
        points of true intellect
        and great rack

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      • I have a couple points of true intellect some would say.

        (thanks FP)

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  40. I can’t believe these people have jobs writing this crap.

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