These Boots Were Made For Divorcing

“We looked!
Then we saw it
step in on the mat!
We looked!
And we saw it!
The Marriage Trap!”

“I know it is costly
And the sex is not sexy.
But we can have
A dog and one kid
that is trendy!”

“Buy the ring!
Buy the ring!
Buy the ring NOW!
It is work to get married
But you have
to know how.”

“’Have no fear, single man,’
Said the Marriage Trap.
‘Marital Things are
good Things.’
I can promise you that.”

“Then our lawyer came in
And he said to us two,
‘Did you have any fun?
Tell me. What did
you do?”

And Wifey and I
did not say
the same things.
You see she was bored
and wanted away.”

“My fortune in limbo,
my stocks in a lock,
I sat silent and fearful
in a state of shock!
Well…what would YOU do
If your lawyer asked you?”

Chalk this up to the latest sign that marriage — versions 1.0, 2.0, and coming to a theater near you, 3.0 — is a raw deal for men and an institution on the precipice of falling cliffside into a shattered heap of anachronistic uselessness. Wives are now leaving perfectly good marriages and their sacrificial beta provider husbands because they are bored. Naturally, they will be leaving with their husbands’ hard-earned cash to fund their adventures in swarthy saguaro hunting. Welcome to the Eat, Pray, Self-Love era of the Fall of America. Next stop: hyperinflation.

A lot of midlife women in my acquaintance are leaving what appear to be perfectly good and loving husbands. Or thinking about it. Or cheating on them. Or wanting to. Or staying married and faithful but buying their own houses, which they either live in or keep as a bolt hole. […]

In a 2004 AARP survey of divorced people 40 and older, 66 percent of wives said they had requested the divorce, and 26 percent had surprised their husbands, often after planning for years. Women were especially likely to have no regrets, and 43 percent did not want to remarry. In another national study that year, ex-wives were three times more likely to say that they wanted the divorce, rather than their husbands wanting it. Fewer than 40 percent of marriages of more than 15 years were rated as successful by respondents.

A multitude of factors likely contributes to the urge to spousally purge of the modern American wife. The Chateau has discussed the Four Sirens of the Sexual Apocalypse before as triggers or exacerbating conditions for the rising divorce, single momhood, and infidelity rates that will herald the denouement of the Grand American Epoch, and now we can throw in a couple more factors —

The death of shame and the glorification of status.

We now exalt that which we used to shame into invisibility. Pathetic single moms are paraded as exemplars of tough-as-nails fortitude and moral virtue. Infidelity is de rigueur, an exciting life transition that self-actualized women find empowering. And of course, taking your husband for all he’s worth in divorce, regardless of marital fault, is practically its own sacrament — the Sacrament of Separation Theft.

And then there is the compelling allure of status jockeying. When women are surrounded by lots of other women cheating on, divorcing, or leaving their dutiful husbands, they feel an odd predilection to ape the group dynamic. Women are herd animals, and will do what they see is trendy in the group. A bunch of well-heeled upper middle class ladies on the block had affairs, including Susie with the best landscaping in the neighborhood? Clearly the heretofore faithful wife thinks she is missing out on something. The stampede of the herd fills her with anxiety, morphing into unhappiness. She plots and connives; her heart bursts with excitement at the taboo! The outsized role of status seeking in shaping women’s choices may help explain why Western populations — excluding the peasant immigrant hordes rapidly displacing us — are demographically imploding: when half the properly educated and economically independent women you know have zero kids, you impart higher status on that childlessness, and then you will seek to mimic the behavior of your admired peers.

One Texas friend’s 40-something daughter is divorcing her husband. His son’s wife had an affair and they’re also divorcing. In another family, an uncle and nephew are both being divorced by their wives. These women had once been renowned for their utter, perhaps excessive devotion to family. The men are both handsome, kind, good fathers. Great catches. Both women have new boyfriends, while the men are still too broken-hearted to date again.

Great catch != gina tingle. It’s been said here many times, often to the guffaws of the haters and disbelievers:

You want to save marriage? Learn game. What are the odds that these “great catches” the wives are unceremoniously divorcing are betas to the bone? The answer is in the last sentence.

“while the men are still too broken-hearted to date again.”

Readers, these wives did not marry “great catches”. They married pushover herblings with steady jobs. Any man with a lick of game and an alpha attitude would not be broken-hearted for long after a divorce, even a surprise divorce that caught him off-guard. He would be lining up dates while the ink on the papers was still drying. Better yet, he would’ve skipped out on marriage entirely and enjoyed the fruits of the female sex free of charge.

Now being a provider herbling might’ve been adequate in 1950, but that was then, this is now. The deck is stacked against men, and marriage is the legal equivalent of cliff diving into a rocky shoreline. Game is one of the few resources men have left to protect themselves against women and a system that sees them as wholly expendable, ATM flesh pods from which to squeeze the last ounce of blood and coin tribute to feed the insatiable marriage machine that is the root of the modern consumption economy.

One divorced mother of two sons put her complaint succinctly: “I realized my husband was of no added value.”

To get the full chill of that statement, try imagining a husband who had divorced his wife saying it, or this next one.

It can’t be imagined, because any husband who initiated divorce on such grounds, overtly or tacitly, would be ass raped by a team of special ops lawyers. Not that husbands don’t feel the same way about their fat, aging wives; they just can’t act on the impulse with the same impunity that wives can. In fact, wives can divorce on these grounds and *still* walk away with a considerable share of his assets. There are many checks and balances built into society to keep the id monster chained in the cellar of the mind, but the prison warden of the female mind has left his post and the id monster has escaped to terrorize and feast freely.

None of this would be the crisis for individual men that it is if the playing field were level. (The impact on society is another matter.) If, in the case of divorce, women could not get a SINGLE RED CENT of the ex-husbands’ money, then the 7 year or 14 year or whatever itch that is seemingly built into the coding of every human being could proceed rather uneventfully, as bored wives would leave their marriages with EXACTLY, AND NO MORE, of what they brought into the marriage. That way, shocked and disillusioned ex-husbands would still have their material resources with which to help them attract new lovers.

If the marriage racket was reformed in this way we’d see a lot fewer bored housewives leaving for sabbaticals in Italy to get boned and robbed by Francisco the smooth talker. But this will never happen absent a revolution triggered by societal extinction level events. Women would wail and gnash their teeth and vote en masse with their lickspittle lackey hubbies in tow and the slow bleeding out of Western civilization would continue apace.

“My married friends seem to envy me. They think I have so much freedom,” she said. “I don’t think their husbands like them coming around me.”

This is an excellent Public Service Announcement. Husbands, you’d be wise to monitor your wives’ social circles and act to limit her time spent with cat collecting, unmarried harridans. They will whisper poison thoughts into your wives’ brains.

University of Virginia research shows that progressive wives are less happy than traditional wives.

“More traditional women may wear rose-colored glasses, but they also benefit from a sense of male and female roles,” said sociologist W. Bradford Wilcox, director of the National Marriage Project, who conducted the research. “They don’t expect their husband to act like a woman.”

In contrast, the idea of marriage with a soul mate “who will meet their deepest needs for human connection” may ask too much of marriage, he said.

Another PSA: Marry conservative women if you want to avoid divorce theft and you believe in those lofty marital vows. Marry liberal women if you like getting taken to the cleaners and nuzzling your herb face into her fat lap.

Rutgers University biological anthropologist Helen Fisher sees the rise of working women as a cause of women asking more from marriage, but she’s not worried.

“Women have always commuted to work to gather fruits and vegetables, and for millions of years women were just as economically, socially and sexually powerful as men. … Data suggest that many ancestral men and women had two or three spouses across their lives,” she wrote on The New York Times’ Room for Debate blog.

“The same occurs today: I have examined divorce patterns in 58 societies and everywhere that spouses have some independent means, both sexes leave bad marriages to make better ones.”

Well, there is something to worry about, if worrying’s your thing. For one, those prehistoric working women still needed the muscle of men to protect them from all sorts of environmental insults. In contrast, today’s working women have air conditioning and On Star. They are now free to choose based on whim instead of necessity. (Game is very good at catering to female whim.) Two, not all prehistoric women were equal. Those of the cold, damp forests of Europe certainly evolved different traits than those of the hot, dry African savannah. But it’s futile arguing “evolution did not stop at the neck” with modern anthropologists; they are drowning in self-deceit too deep to rescue with simple logic.

As it is, our society is at a fork in the road. We can go one of two ways if an end to the divorce industrial complex is your goal:

1. Rescind feminism.

Basically, turn back the clock on the so-called “improvements” in divorce litigation. Put divorce lawyers out of business. Custody of children would be split evenly, half the time with mom and half the time with dad, unless solid evidence of extenuating fault could be found, such as pedophilia or physical abuse. End all affirmative action and favoritism, explicit or implicit, for women. This means no more maternal leave or sexual harassment workshops. Return shame to its rightful place as a molder of human behavior.

2. Follow feminism to its logical conclusion.

Completely gut the traditional notion of marriage by legally establishing polygamy and assorted polyamorous relationships as equally valid unions. (Should be easier now that there is legal justification for gay marriage.) Make divorce as easy as buying a gallon of milk. Reform marriage so that it better reflects the evolutionary disposition of people to fall out of love after seven years (or approximately the time the kids are old enough to function without constant parental supervision.) If we are biologically designed by evolution to weary of our partners after seven to ten years, then why is marriage not arranged in such a way that acknowledges this reality? After all, we don’t force gay men against their biological disposition to marry or screw women. Tenth wave feminists and principled libertarians could easily make the case that marriage is constricting of natural human urges, and thus inhumane, so should be offered to people on a contractual basis of varying length. You could get married for two years, seven years, twenty years, or till death do you part. At the end of the contract the spouses would go their separate ways, no muss no fuss, no exchange of assets or punitive payments of any kind. It would be as clean and hassle free as leaving your barber for another one. The option to renew the contract for a set number of additional years would of course be available for those remaining idealists and lucky few soulmates. Contracts also could be stipulated with allowances for cheating based on frequency and number of extramarital lovers. Children of divorce would be remanded to a state orphanage where, no doubt, they would be raised in stricter accordance with the dictates of governmental progressivism, because it takes a village.

The Chateau favors option 2, but that’s just because we’re a mischievous bunch of rascals. And it’s more doable. Fuck, we’re halfway there already.





Comments


  1. Game can help a lot with this.

    All men should work on improving their Game.
    All men should pick up lots of women.
    And all men should quietly leave the feminists in a shallow grave in a quarry somewhere.

    After a few years of this, problem solved!

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  2. pump and dump the only option left

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  3. Marriage, even in its old v1.0 form, was a bad deal for most men. Now it has just gotten worser.. and worser and just as you thought it could not get any worser, it has.

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  4. and here is an old post with a youtube cartoon that drives home that very point in a very unforgiving manner.

    http://dissention.wordpress.com/2010/04/23/cartoon-about-marriage-1/

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  5. Chateau,

    Don’t you know. Women lack accountability.

    I want my Cake. And I want to Eat it, Too.

    If I can’t have and eat at the same time, I’ll Have mine, and Eat yours.

    Women have it perfect right now. All the rights, none of the responsibility.

    It’s tacitly engineered that way.

    And there are betas and conservatives railing against change or singing the praises of the matriarchy.

    The only real solution is to listen to what feminists (equity feminists) say. Protect ourselves. A lot of beta males will be shit out of luck, but they get the chance to learn.

    Equity: Treat women as equals. No alimony. Expect them to work. Expect them to get by on their own skills and abilities.

    You’ll see stupid, useless women returning to the kitchen, reliant on men; and smart ones riding the alpha cock carousel because men are useless to them.

    It’s the only solution. We can get feminists to push us there, too.

    What we have is a toxic mix of conservatism (trying to bring back an age that never existed and can’t exist, now) and liberalism (leaving the field open to anything at all).

    Just don’t fucking get married. All decent men who can have sex (teach your boys) should avoid marriage at all costs.

    Modern women are worthless as mates. Utterly worthless. Nothing but burdens and weights, weights around the necks of men.

    They’re great as individuals. But as marriage partners – total loss.

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  6. Wake up white man.

    You will soon become extinct if you sit there and do nothing.

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  7. […] Modern morality Compare and contrast […]

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  8. No modern physical or biological anthropologist believes that evolution stopped at the neck. Love your work, but stop parroting that trope.

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  9. I think I’ll move to Tuscany and play the part of Francisco

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  10. on August 17, 2010 at 2:16 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

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    helathcare was once about helpin the sick and doctors making a decent living

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    in coolege the neocns doeosul dsoul women in their prima noctae asscokcing sessions where teh fiat mbas nd futur lawyers bailing out goldman sax and smirking as they butthex the common man in coolege they pass your future wife around assocking her and puttin their cock in her ass to desoul her often secretievly taping it lzozoozlzo and writing storiues about it whereas the fed then wires them hundereds of thousands of dollarz through dsodom and schiuster lzozlzozozl to reaward tehir secreteiv tapings of asscocking sesisons and bill chrystlams magazine the weekly standadrth dutiffully repates the lies taht they are six feet tall while ignoring the brave alphas bleeding 2 death in foreign shores on foreign wars neocn warz as they define the new heroic manhood as tucker mx and jonah goldgeberg lzozlzozlzlz

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  11. Game comes later. Just do not get married. It is the best course if action for men. Freeeeeddddddoommmm.

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  12. Roissy,

    I want my race to live! I don’t want us to die.

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  13. Why would a middle-aged guy want to stay married to a middle-aged woman, anyway? Financially, it is just as much a drop-in-income for her as it is for the man. I suspect that’s why this trend of women divorcing men because they’re bored is not going to become very large.

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  14. Yes, Roissy, you’re hitting the point nicely. The crux of the problem is that the old, balanced “status” of marriage has been tinkered with an entirely pro-female direction. Now the deal stinks for men, but women still try to use social expectations to trap men into it.

    The solution is your #2–contractualize it.

    The movement “From Status to Contract” (a famous law book’s title) is one of human emancipation. Consider, for example, replacing feudal serfs or slaves (status) with employees (contract). Or, publicly-provided housing for the low-income (status) with free market housing (contract).

    #2 Rules–just beware of the rise in violence as the alpha’s assemble harems! Buy some guns too!

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  15. And state run orphanages? No thanks. Taxpayer money should not be used on the spawn of strangers.

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  16. A man has to be stupid to get married these days. Ignorance is no longer a valid excuse. The signs are all around us. Give these western harpies exactly what they want – their independence and freedom. After all they don’t need a man. Pump n dump is the best strategy.

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  17. on August 17, 2010 at 2:27 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

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    OMG lzozzlzll so are fuckity fucks doing with chix in your homes? lzozlzlzlz omg lozlzlzlzlzl looozers lzozlzlzlz1!! hzhzh

    THEY VIOLATE THE ONE COCK RULE THEY ARE OUT! OUT!

    OUT!

    O U T OUT! lzozlzlzl

    OMG lozlzlzozlozozolzl wft r u doing dating a chick 4 a yer did your dick fall off? Were yu chosen by Beernanke and given an award and medal to support today’s slutty slutt vampiressses cuckholders cockcutters?

    women have been deosuled are desouled in high school college by lotsa cocka often in tehir anuthes and desouled and they loste theyir loyalty to god man children family ideals morality, and pledge their loylaty to julia roberts bernanke and the fiat dollar and tucker max hwich rhymes with godlman sax who gets lotsa fiat dollarz for being one of the most heroic neocon asscokcers and secretiv tapings of assocking sessions without the gil even knowin the camera is rooling da neons like that ya yay aya lzozozlz it makes their gina and anuthes tingle lilingele in teh ithstory of the r worldl zzozlzlllzlzlozozozozo

    casue after the fed desouls womenz then they can rule the world by GINA TINGLES!!!

    day make da woman’s gina tingle and BOOM! She will abort the fetuth kill her kids and divorce her husband such is thepwoer of ruling the word via gina tingles lozlzozzlzozozlzlzo as they used the deminist movement to detsry the fmaily and exile the fathers form teh home and teh contstiyton form congress just get rid of it fuck it in the ath as they bankrupt the nation with an illegal counterfeiting banking cartel unconsttutional too but they put women in charge and as long as they made the womeths asses and ginas tingle the women said “OK YAH WE AGREE TO ABORT OUR KIDS AND DIVORCE OUR HUDSNABDNS AND WOKR FOR THE FIAT DOLLAR SINTEAD OF FAITH AD THE FAMILY JUST AS LONG AS YOU MAKE OUR GINAS TINGLE LINGLE AND ATHEUS DO TEH SMAME OZZLZZOLLZOZLZLLZLZLZ”

    sounds 2 me it is the latter as too too many of u have no cock lzozlzlzlzl lzzozl

    and she made you think of another cock

    fucktard haven’t u heard of the one cock rule?

    hey roissy yo!! let’s teach these douches somethin ’bout nbein a man yo!

    throw a beat over this way.
    yo yo yo yo
    yo yo yo

    now hit it!

    one cock rule one cock rule
    i ain’t no beta fool i ain’t no beta tool
    about another cock ya make me think
    i’m gone, yo bitch,
    let the betas buy yas yer next drink

    one cock rule one cock rule
    i ain’t no beats fool i ain’t no beta tool
    over vampires and werewolfe you ginas all drool
    letting their cocks touch your deep down stool
    then you blame the betas in school
    and transfer wealth for the bernanke gene pool
    jonah goldberg sends our alphas 2 die on foreign shores
    stuffing his face with dc pizza as they die in fiat wars
    neocon womenz repeating butthexers lies in their mags
    even after menopause and no need for da ragz
    telling young chickas to lust after vampires
    as they build their fiat empires

    one cock rule one cock rule
    i ain’t no fool i ain’t no tool
    about another cock ya make me think
    i’m gone, yo bitch,
    let the betas buy yas yer next drink

    let the betas pay to raise your bastard kids
    let the betas sign teh fiat masters marriage contracts
    theft in fiat inflation is hid
    as they swing their bankrupting axe
    i don’t care what last night u did,
    ever since i kicked ya gina out, i been relaxed.

    as they promote butthex across the land
    ripping out fetuses from parenthood planned
    as fathers form teh homes the neocons ban
    the atalnatic authoresses just don’t undertsand

    but when chix wakes up and her butt is sore
    it’s not my fault no–it’s cause she’s a whore
    as the fiat masters desoul women with butthex cock
    teach them to transfer wealth with pre-teen strumpet rock

    one cock rule one cock rule
    i ain’t no fool i ain’t no tool
    about another cock ya make me think
    i’m gone, yo bitch,
    let the betas buy yas yer next drink

    womenz womenz bernanke took advanatge of you
    you wasted your best years on vampires and werewolves
    and now you cry your tears cause of your sore anus
    stamp your little feet saying, “you betas must pay for this!!!”

    and aging neocon women promoting butthexing vampires
    teacxhing women to lust after the undead
    as the neocons suck the western world dry
    bankrupting it all,m enlsaving it debt
    while selfish womenz at the atalnatic monthly
    cry cry cry
    cry cry cry
    not for you or me
    but for themselves
    not for the 50,000,000 aborted souls
    but for their dried up ginas and sore assholes
    so many chances they had to marry a nice guy
    but he left her dry
    so whe butthexed with the asshole
    and now see her cry
    and wonder why
    and transofrm the entire univeristy
    into a program to further the fiat lie
    to transfer wealth and wage war and death
    to about fifty million more
    and redefine fifty cocks in her ass as empowered
    and not a whore

    all together now!

    lzozllzzl lozlzlz zlozozoz
    lozlzl lzozozlz ozlzooz zlo9oo
    lozlzlz ozlzoozl ozlzlzoz lzozlz zlzoz zlzozzlozlzozlo

    one cock rule one cock rule
    i ain’t no fool i ain’t no tool
    about another cock ya make me think
    i’m gone, yo bitch,
    let the betas buy yas yer next drink
    alreayd seen yer pink stink
    bent ya over the sink

    and howscomes the bankers southpark never does satarize
    because everything is fair game–truth love honor–excpet for fiat butthexing lies.

    all together now!

    lzozllzzl lozlzlz zlozozoz
    lozlzl lzozozlz ozlzooz zlo9oo
    lozlzlz ozlzoozl ozlzlzoz lzozlz zlzoz zlzozzlozlzozlo

    AND THREE COCK RULE:

    ^^^^ to the 24 for or so tardbetadouches who voted my “one cock rule” rap down

    lozlzlzlzlozzllzlzlzlz

    what do ya want?

    a two cock rule rap?

    or three cock rule?

    three cock rule, three cock rule,
    i’m a beta herb my own cock won’t do
    i need a chick to cuckold me
    i need a chick on me to pee
    three cock rule, three cock rule,
    i love being the greater fool
    one cock in her mouth, one in her anus,
    i keep mine in my pants,
    and pay her bills and rent and fare for da bus.
    so she can club and grind, on denim cocks dance.
    three cock rule, three cock rule,
    i treat my lady like a nice guy,
    give her chivarly while with 2 others she doth lie,
    three cock rule, three cock rule,
    while your cock doth touch her stool,
    i play videogames @ home in my single mom’s basement,
    as teh fed fianance feminsits studies @ school,
    teaching her to love and bail out the butthexers,
    to persucte me 4 letting her live 4 free,
    while she tickles drummer/druggie cock until it goes
    splooge splooge splooge! tee hee tee hee!
    three cock rule, three cock rule,
    i’m the beta herb, teh cuckholded fool,
    i respect her, keep my cock in my pants,
    fund her with other cocks to dance.

    lozlzlzlzl

    or would u betaherbs prefer a five cock rule rap! omg i bet someofya would like dat! lzozl

    lzozozozo

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  18. on August 17, 2010 at 2:30 pm Rollo Tomassi

    I’ll see your Marriage 3.0 and raise you “Sexual Fluidity”:

    http://www.oprah.com/relationships/Why-Women-Are-Leaving-Men-for-Lesbian-Relationships-Bisexuality

    You see, now, when women hit the wall or get bored and want to make off with their marriage “winnings” they can play the “I was gay all along and I didn’t embrace it” card to a waiting throng of new-women to console them.

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  19. All men need to take a class in Banking 101.

    1. If your wife announces a divorce; wire all money to a safe haven off-shore account.

    2. Sell house within 30 days at 30% discount, wire money out.

    3. Move; claim health issue precludes returning.

    4. If kids, have a guardian/grandparent monitor their welfare & provide money via western union or cash.

    Your identity/privacy is protected by iron clad laws; you can not be dragged to a divorce court..its a civil proceeding. Garnishments are handled by same DMV like agencies that handle your license renewal & santitation fines; they aint trying too hard….ever hear of dead beat dads?

    No one can force you to show up for a divorce. And your opponents surely cant last long without money.

    Plenty of Men do this; but majority volunteer for slaughter.

    Eventually, environmental pollution will render most women sterile; and we will rely on surrogate-mother baby mill / factories in India, china….google it they exist and wear pink or blue smocks depending if they are carrying boy or girl.

    The movie “The Handmaids Tale” predicts this and the rise of a Theocracy, controlling a few breeder women.

    In history…this period will be viewed in horror and essentially gender self-genocide.

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  20. um, somewhat related on the whole societal meltdown, check out the decline in dating market value of these ladies as the number of lovers increases.
    http://izismile.com/2010/08/17/guess_the_number_of_womens_lovers_by_the_7_pics.html
    When women no longer care, it shows.

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  21. Middle-aged seven-year-itch hags overestimate the value of their non-attractiveness, wrinkle lines and Michelin-man curves. They’d better hope the supply of sexually desperate, frustrated betas is endless or they stand a good chance of not finding another clueless schmuck to prey their questionably-feminine wiles upon if they leave their faithful husbands because they get bored.

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  22. “Middle-aged seven-year-itch hags overestimate the value of their non-attractiveness”

    There are always takers. Sad but true. Poonay never loses its market value, there will always be a guy having lower market value who will gladly step in. or there’s VK.

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  23. Rollo Tomassi-

    I’ve read you’re posts on SoSuave and you are a God among men.

    So, what does that article teach men?

    Don’t marry professional women and watch whom you’re spouse interacts with, and make sure you are the breadwinner?

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  24. I’m just going to be part of the problem. This is all quite depressing so I am going to increase my own personal happiness and stay away from marriage.There really is no incentive anymore to buy the cow.

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  25. Sometimes only a heroic effort is albe to revert a situation. Just let the chaos take over it. Compare it to a big fire – you isolate the area and let it burn, fighting against it is useless.

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  26. That AARP study is widely misused. It didn’t find any jump in divorce rates for older couples (it wasn’t designed to). It also had many indications that men fare better than women following late life divorce both financially and in the sexual marketplace. Women who divorce at 40 and up are often setting themselves up for disaster. But the media keeps spinning the whole thing as empowering, even though the study they referenced showed a very grim reality for women. Also, while the study kicked off the “Grey Divorce” stampede, 73% of the divorces being asked about occurred when the respondent was in their 40s.

    Almost 9 in 10 men (87%) dated after their divorce, compared to 8 in 10 women (79%)… Among those who dated after the divorce, more than half of men (54%) but fewer women remarried (39%). (Page 39)

    Many women, especially those who have not remarried (69%), do not touch or hug at all sexually. An even larger majority of women who have not remarried do not engage in sexual intercourse (77% saying not at all), in comparison with about half of men (49%) who have not remarried. (Page 6)

    More on my blog Exploding Grey Divorce

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  27. @Rollo, the plus side of fat wife getting a new girl on the side is she now finally gets to see what being a provider-man is like.

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  28. on August 17, 2010 at 3:00 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    Silver Fox douchetard writes,

    All men need to take a class in Bernanke Banking 101.

    1. If your wife announces a divorce; wire all money to a safe haven off-shore account. LZOZOZOZLZOZO how the fuck can she divorce me if i never mariried her fucktwat? zlzozozozolzozo

    2. Sell house within 30 days at 30% discount, wire money out. WHY THE fucke i own my onw fukcing house fucknuts lzozlzzzozoo

    3. Move; claim health issue precludes returning. FUCK i an’t makin no exucess to know bernakiifed pseudo wife working for bernake and goldman sax who was asscocked by the neooncons hero tucker max lzozllzlzllz who secrtelty taped it zzoozoozlz to qualify for cash fiat bernake advances form sodom and shcuster zlozlzlzozo

    4. If kids, have a guardian/grandparent monitor their welfare & provide money via western union or cash. WHY THE FUCK WOULD I HAVE KIDS don’t ya know bernake sees each kid as a credit card and chain and siphon into your bank account and they use men to work men 2 death to fund child support supposedly but really they are paying for your rbernankiifed wife to buy new shoes to wear to her assocking dates which she got hooked on during her deosuling years in college lzozlzozozllozozoz

    Your identity/privacy is protected by iron clad laws; you can not be dragged to a divorce court..its a civil proceeding. Garnishments are handled by same DMV like agencies that handle your license renewal & santitation fines; they aint trying too hard….ever hear of dead beat dads? HEY FUCK IF YOU ARE MARRIED EVERYTHING IN YOUR HOUSE YOUR EMIALS EVERYTHING BEOCMES STATE PROPERTY!!! LZOZLZLZO

    sthe bernke state deosuls womenz these days to get them to spy on tehir men and tranfer the honest mans assets to da state lzozoozlzo in divroce court zlozzozozozo

    No one can force you to show up for a divorce. And your opponents surely cant last long without money.

    FUCKTARD CONTEPMOT OF COURT THEY CAN ARREST YOU FUCK TARD IF YOU REFUES TO PAY ALOIMONY SCHILD SUPPORT AND ICNCACERTATE YOU FUCK TRAD WHO THE FUCK Are you working for golman sax tucker max too? lzozzozoozozlll

    Plenty of Men do this; but majority volunteer for slaughter.

    Eventually, environmental pollution will render most women sterile; and we will rely on surrogate-mother baby mill / factories in India, china….google it they exist and wear pink or blue smocks depending if they are carrying boy or girl.

    The movie “The Handmaids Tale” predicts this and the rise of a Theocracy, controlling a few breeder women.

    In history…this period will be viewed in horror and essentially gender self-genocide.

    lozozozlzzlozozozllzozloz

    hye i have an idea.

    why not take roiisy’s advice and fuck for free as the neocons tell us it was menat 2 be? lzozllosslsoslslsl

    as long as tehy are funding the doeusling and assocking wof womenz there is no cock big enough to plufg the gaping hole of the fiat butthex matrix which tears a new asshole in everything it touches so that bernke can suck cash and welath out of it lzozozozlzl

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  29. The solution is simple, but not always easy in today’s world fraught with liberalism and hedonism. Like anything else, it requires good judgment and hard work. Don’t be a “dad” or a “hubby”, be a fucking Patriarch…

    1) Find a woman (25YO or younger preferably) who has a good upbringing. This means that her parents are still married, has some form of religion in her life and enough brainpower to make good decisions. This is where your judgment comes into play. It’s like the old Wall Street saying, “if you could own one stock for the rest of your life, what would it be?” Probably not the volatile tech stock that all your friends are pitching (aka the scantily clad girl in the club with divorced parents, ex-boyfriend issues and who only wants to “travel”…

    2) Mold her into the traditional roles over time. This could take several years, but once you find a woman with a good foundation/upbringing, it shouldn’t be that hard to deprogram what the TV/college/liberal friends have taught her. First, she should not work once she has children. My wife was on a career fast track at age 25 when she had our first child. I told her to quit and she did. Very few women actually want to work (it’s called work for a reason for fuck’s sake!), but they are programmed by today’s liberal society to feel “empowered” by it. Second, it is her responsibility to cook and clean the house. Simple as that. I bring home the paycheck, she cooks and cleans and manages the home (pays the bills, etc.). Keep in mind that this involves sacrifice on your part. You can’t expect her to cook and clean at home while you are out partying with your friends every night of the week. You must lead by example and by simply telling her what is right.

    3) Give her lots of children. Boredom is a tool of the devil. 1 to 2 children will keep her busy for a few years then offer her plenty of free time once they are of school age. Be a real patriarch, not a yuppy eunuch, and father 4+ children. Both you and your wife will be empowered by this…and busy.

    4) Religion is very important. Ensure that you and your family are involved in some sort of legitimate religious community. God will take care of the rest.

    5) No TV. TV is satanic. We got rid of our TV a year ago and we don’t miss it at all. If you need your fix, rent a movie occasionally on iTunes or something.

    6) Be a man. If your wife makes a stupid decision, tell her it was stupid, yell if need be, but explain to her why it was dumb. Fuck her like a man. Compliment her when she deserves it, insult her when she deserves it. You set the expectations, you make the demands and you set the example. Again, people (wives and especially children) rarely do what you say, they do what you do.

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  30. “It is estimated that upwards of 95% of divorces in the U.S. are “uncontested,” because the two parties are able to come to an agreement (either with or without lawyers/mediators/collaborative counsel) about the property, children and support issues.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce#No-fault_divorce

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  31. on August 17, 2010 at 3:05 pm gunslingergregi

    Dang good post man.

    Truth unless you are a noble man and then you don’t get fucked with by woman because woman can only really understand one thing logically the law of the jungle.

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  32. on August 17, 2010 at 3:07 pm gunslingergregi

    ””””””Thursday
    Slumlord has a look at women’s divorce rates by number of sex partners here. The first big drop happens at 2 and the second big drop at 5. Ouch! I hadn’t thought the drop off would occur that quickly. My advice is more relevant than ever. I had previously considered viginity desirable in a wife, but not mandatory. I am reconsidering my position.
    ”””””
    Yea you might want to rethink that because even with all virgin marriages it is still a 50 percent divorce rate lol

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  33. Chilling exerpt form Handmaids Tale

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Handmaid's_Tale

    The Handmaid’s Tale is a feminist dystopian novel, a work of science fiction or speculative fiction,[1] written by Canadian author Margaret Atwood[2][3] and first published by McClelland and Stewart in 1985. Set in the near future, in a totalitarian theocracy which has overthrown the United States government.

    Illegitimate women

    “Unwomen” are sterile women, widows, feminists, lesbians, nuns, and politically dissident women, all women who are incapable of social integration within the Republic’s strict gender divisions. They are exiled to “the colonies”, areas of both agricultural production and deadly pollution, as are handmaids who fail to produce a child after three two-year assignments.

    “Jezebels” are prostitutes and entertainers, available only to the Commanders and their guests; some are lesbians and attractive, educated women unable to adjust to handmaid status. They have been sterilized, which is illegal for other women. They operate in unofficially state-sanctioned brothels, and they seem to exist unbeknownst to most other women. Jezebels, whose title comes from the Biblical character, dress in the remnants of sexualized costumes from “the time before” viz. cheerleaders’ costumes, school uniforms, and Playboy Bunny costumes. While Jezebels have some degree of freedom in that they can wear makeup, drink alcohol, and socialize with men, they are still tightly controlled by Aunts. Once their usefulness for sex is over, they are sent to the Colonies.

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  34. on August 17, 2010 at 3:10 pm Steve Johnson

    The missing piece from the analysis is the bit that actually killed marriage: mandatory child support.

    Deal used to be that women wanted kids and needed men to support them. To entice men to support the kids, they would improve his life. In exchange he’d work hard and provide. No enticement? No support.

    Now, women want kids but if they have them they get all the benefits of marriage without providing any value. What’s left of marriage after that? Nothing. It’s inevitable that it’s been completely wrecked once society lost sight of its purpose.

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  35. Yes.

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  36. @Ben Elazar
    Religion is very important. Ensure that you and your family are involved in some sort of legitimate religious community. God will take care of the rest.

    This seems to be common belief, but everyone who says this gets awful quiet when I ask for a data source. Any chance this is my luck day?

    BTW, here is what I would have churches do relating to divorce.

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  37. Thursday,

    Agree 100%. Of my partners, the one whose virginity I took bonded to me BY FAR the hardest.

    Note: She is higher status than me and still cant get enough.

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  38. on August 17, 2010 at 3:15 pm gunslingergregi

    ””””on August 17, 2010 at 2:42 pm Silver Fox””””’

    But your bank accounts are frozen and large companies have a special section of people that actually get paid to garnish the employees wages from divorce theft lol
    Can you imagine that?
    A company has a group of all woman who it is there

    *******job******

    to garnish your wages.
    But yea umm
    You better already have that shit set up.
    Have you seen switzerlands new policy?
    But yea would like to hear more.
    But am wondering if pheasable at all in your current mind.
    Oh yea and realize this.
    The police will lock you the fuck out of that house with your wife in it faster than you can get home from work.
    You have

    *****NOOOOOOOOOOO*****
    fucking rights as a man.
    And if she claims
    *****ABUSE*****
    Then your in jail with no fucking reason why.
    Yea There is no sane reason to stay in us.
    Shit is off the grid
    it is off the tracks.
    Why the fuck do ya think I wanted to die when I realized how fucking unfair life is for a shitload of people.

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  39. on August 17, 2010 at 3:16 pm creole seasonin'

    We now exalt that which we used to shame into invisibility.

    that would be your blog for instance lol

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  40. @GBFM,

    Not that I agree with everything you write, but I feel like someone who walked into Warhols’ studio in his early years, or an early Alan Ginsburg poetry reading.

    You really out to put this stuff on posters and t-shirts. Once the MRM takes hold, you’ll make millions.

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  41. on August 17, 2010 at 3:19 pm (R)Evolutionary

    Turns out, this marriage 1.0 stuff really only dates back to the early 1900’s. Going back before that, and marriage looked much different.

    Go back all the way to the Old Testament times, and marriage was polygynous bigamy–a bunch of wives. Moses had game. Who knew?

    So I think Roissy’s #1 and 2 are the same, given a long enough timeline. Give the feminists enough rope & they’ll ‘free’ their way into the picture of #2, and when that collapses in a shitheap (along with the rest of the industrial machine), the resulting return to conditions resembling the Late Iron age, and the attending backlash, will return things to something like #1. Give it 50 years. We’ll see it (if we’re lucky) within our lifetimes.

    Here’s a liberal guy writing some stuff on gay marriage who’s inadvertently proving the first this point:

    “Because, honestly, which traditional definition of marriage do we want our Constitution to protect?

    …The one from Book of Genesis when family values meant multiple wives and concubines?
    …Or the marriages of the Middle Ages when women were traded like cattle and weddings were too bawdy for church?
    …Since this is America, should we preserve marriage as it existed in 1776 when arranged marriages were still commonplace?
    …Or the traditions of 1850 when California became a state and marriage was customarily between one man and one woman-or-girl of age 11 and up?
    …Or are we really seeking to protect a more modern vision of traditional marriage, say from the 1950s when it was illegal for whites to wed blacks or Hispanics?
    …Or the traditional marriage of the late 1960s when couples were routinely excommunicated for marrying outside their faith?”

    http://archielevine.blogspot.com/2008/11/traditional-marriage-perverts-tradition.html

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  42. on August 17, 2010 at 3:19 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    Ben Elazar
    The solution is simple, but not always easy in today’s world fraught with liberalism and hedonism. Like anything else, it requires good judgment and hard work. Don’t be a “dad” or a “hubby”, be a fucking Patriarch…

    1) Find a woman (25YO or younger preferably) who has a good upbringing (YEAH GOOD FUCKING LUCK!!! AND EVEN IF SHE AHD GOOD PARENTS SHE WAS STILL EXPOSED TO THE DESOULING BERNANKE PROGRAMS AND SEX ED AND LOTS ACOCKA WELLF UNDED COCKA SEEKING POUT HER TINGLING NATHUS LOZOZOZLZ FUNDED BY DA NEOONCS PROMOTED BY DA NEOONCS LZOZLZOZLZZ). This means that her parents are still married, has some form of religion in her life and enough brainpower to make good decisions (HEY FUCKTARDD MODERN CHRISTSNAIS FUCK ASN D SUC AND GET DIVORCED JUST AS MUCH IF NOT MORE FUCKTARD SO WHAT DOE SIT MEAN ALL L IT MEANS IS THAT JESUS FORGIVES HER FOR HER ASSCOKING SESSIONS AND FOR RAPING YOUR ANAL CAVITY IN DIVORCE COURT IS THE MODERN BERNANKIFED CHURCH LZOZLZOZOOZ). This is where your judgment comes into play. It’s like the old Wall Street saying, “if you could own one stock for the rest of your life, what would it be?” (NOT TICER SYMBOL GINA!!!!!) Probably not the volatile tech stock that all your friends are pitching (aka the scantily clad girl in the club with divorced parents, ex-boyfriend issues and who only wants to “travel”… BUY BIGNA!! BUY GINA!! SAYS GODLMA SAX WHICH RHYEMS WITH TUCKER MAX lzozlzlzlzlzlzz.

    2) Mold her into the traditional roles over time (HOLY FUCKING SHIT SHE WILL CALL THE POLICE AND THE FEDERAL RESERVE ON YOU AND THEY WILL SEND THEIR LAWEYRS AND POLICE STATE TO INCEARCERTAE HER IF YOU TRY TO DSICPPINE A WIFE THESE DAYZ LZOZOOZLZOZOZLZOZO HER GINA TINGLES ARE WHAT RULE THE HOMENOW NOT DOS LAW YOU STUPID MISLEAD FUCKTARD POOR LITTLE IDIOT FUCKTARD!!. This could take several years, but once you find a woman with a good foundation/upbringing, it shouldn’t be that hard to deprogram what the TV/college/liberal friends have taught her (HAHAHHHHAHAHAHAH YEAH THAT IS HOW I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE DEINSTALING BUGGY LADY GAGA PORN SOFTWARE AND LICKING UP THE TUCKER MAX CRUST FROM THE ASSCOKING SESSIONS WELL FUNDED BY DA DNEOCONS AND PROMOTED AND ENFORECED BY THE FIAT REGIME ASSOCKINGS LZOZOZOZOZL(). First, she should not work once she has children (LOZOZOL BUT ODNTYA KNOW THE FED DEMANDS 2 WORKING PARENTS NOW???) LZOZOZOZOZOZLZLZL. My wife was on a career fast track at age 25 when she had our first child. I told her to quit and she did. Very few women actually want to work STUPID FUCK ARE YOU ALIVE IN 2010 ALL FUCKING WOMEN PUT WORK IN FORNT OF MEN SO THEY CAN HAVE THEIR INDIE ASSCOKING GINA TINGLE SESSIONS!!! YOU CRAZY CRAZY FUCK!!!!! (it’s called work for a reason for fuck’s sake!), but they are programmed by today’s liberal society to feel “empowered” by it. Second, it is her responsibility to cook and clean the house (HAHAHAH TELL HER THAT NAD BERNAKE WILL HAVE YOU THROWN IN JAIL YOU CRAZY FUCK JUST TRY IT U CRAZY FUCK WHERE DO YOU FUCKING LIVE GILLIGANS IDLSAND???????. Simple as that. I bring home the paycheck, she cooks and cleans and manages the home (pays the bills, etc.). Keep in mind that this involves sacrifice on your part (FUCK YOU!!). You can’t expect her to cook and clean at home while you are out partying with your friends every night of the week. You must lead by example and by simply telling her what is right (HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA AND BE INCERCERATED FOR LAYING DOWN DA LAW LZOZOZOZLZO OF MOSES AND HOMER AND JESUTH LZOZOOZLZOZLZLZ).

    3) Give her lots of children (OMG LZOOZZLZOZOZOL WOMEN AR EPROGRAMMED TO HATE CHILDREN YOU CRAZY FUC AND THE MORE SHE HAS THEMORE ALIMONY SHE CAN DEMAND FOR FUTURE ASSOCKING SESSIONSSSSSSS ). Boredom is a tool of the devil. 1 to 2 children will keep her busy for a few years then offer her plenty of free time once they are of school age. Be a real patriarch, not a yuppy eunuch, and father 4+ children. Both you and your wife will be empowered by this…and busy.

    4) Religion is very important. Ensure that you and your family are involved in some sort of legitimate religious community (WHERE THE FUCK DOES ONE FIND THISIN AMERICA THESE DAYS WHERE CHURCHES FORGIVE ASSOCKIERS AND CUT THE NUTS OFF REAL MEN PARTAKINGIN THE NERBERNAKIFATCION OF THE NATION AND THE DEOUSLING OF OWMENZ LZOZLZOZLZLZLZ). God will take care of the rest.

    5) No TV. TV is satanic. We got rid of our TV a year ago and we don’t miss it at all. If you need your fix, rent a movie occasionally on iTunes or something.

    6) Be a man. If your wife makes a stupid decision, tell her it was stupid, yell if need be, but explain to her why it was dumb. Fuck her like a man. Compliment her when she deserves it, insult her when she deserves it. You set the expectations, you make the demands and you set the example. Again, people (wives and especially children) rarely do what you say, they do what you do. (LOZOZOZLZOZOZOZ BE A MAN!!! LZOZOZOZlzlzozzlzolzozozozlzlzlzl LZOZOOZZOZZLZLZLZLOZOZO zzlzlzozozzlozozzl)

    yah just be a man.

    but to be a man, that woud mean being a man,
    like roissy

    and you wouldn’t marry a deosuled welath transferring modern chcicka programmed 2 work fro the fed in her assocking sessions in coolege which she hosted in her dorm’s bed now and then eating a pringle as they taught her to first and foremost serve her anuth and gina tingle lzozlzllzlzlzlzlzlzzl berankifieying her all the way, on towards that day, she would get half your pay and return to those glorious assocking sessions and a church which forives her for her asscokcing sessions confessions while accepting her tithing from your alimony and child support lzozlzozlzoozoozlzozoozzoozlozzozoozozozllz buthex!!!!1

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  43. Oh god help us! I heard this talk about oprah and rosie odonnell doing a channel together. then later today I see it in print. oh the horror!

    This cannot be so, that is effed up. Please Lord no. I was looking forward to OPrah and gang leaving the airwaves….ughhh ugly fat gay chicks ARE BACK. GOD HELP US INDEED…kill me now….which leads in nicely to what our Chatuea is saying: watch your wives freinds. if they are smart women like me, they just stay away from everyone and become more mute. You know, like, more pretty less talky. single women are now in a different state than married women. married women should busy with the new marriage, maybe a baby and not going out. if she is going out with those whores. watch out! that marriage is in trouble.

    Feminism makes me sick. Womens voting and abortion ruined this land. Women cannot do anymore voting. they have hurt America to the 10th degree.

    Marriage is a dangerous idea. You have to be some kind of a loving, person who, believes in love and all that. And the woman you choose and you better already decide that divorce is for trash. Smart people just live seperate open lives – open marriages essentially. Why? Preserve that wealth, keep it in the family and understand each others needs. (gross I know…but read on)

    I see this sort of thing played in real life. A certain somone in my life has been married for 30 some years. Both are eccentric people who are rich and dont’ wanna give up any money. so they cheat, stay married, live the nice life and hope for heaven. Sure, I dont agree but its about saving the money.

    These rings are so darn dumb. They are a waste of money. I said so even when things were better. How about lets quit worshipping the women with these really expensive rings. A nice one for a certain price is acceptable. But these gawdy looking things? Hey, lets save the money and appreciate each other company over junkkery, jewerly, trinkets, etc…

    In this day and age and these gawd awful bridzillas and the inlaws? Good luck to new marriages. Good luck It is great for others but for some of us, we are just cogs in the murder machine of work, paying taxes and more work. We just…survive to keep the system afloat one more year.

    It is interesting on the hyper inflation. I was reading some debates for and against the matters of inflation and deflation. To be honest from what I am reading it looks like all bets are off, anything can happen and now is the time to get your stuff together for survivals sake. times are this bad***

    Anyways, it almost looks like the hyperdeflationists have some points.

    However, I think we are heading towards hyperinflation.

    (“cogs in the murder machine” was a line stuck in my head from a my chemical romance song called teenagers”)

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  44. I freaking love this: Four Sirens of the Sexual Apocalypse. Excellent, excellent, excellent and excellent (4 for 4)

    “And then there is the compelling allure of status jockeying. When women are surrounded by lots of other women cheating on, divorcing, or leaving their dutiful husbands, they feel an odd predilection to ape the group dynamic. Women are herd animals, and will do what they see is trendy in the group. A bunch of well-heeled upper middle class ladies on the block had affairs, including Susie with the best landscaping in the neighborhood?”

    Amen and amen!

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  45. @ Thursday and Paul,

    Not sure about your theory. The two chicks that most bonded to me in my life were both hookers.

    That having been said, I have a theory that reconciles with your theory:

    For the average chick riding the alpha cock carousel, a beta is a lousy consolation prize.

    For a single-mother hooker riding the payah (the word I invented for john) cock carousel, a carousel which includes a lot of fat guys in their 70s who haven’t washed their hairy balls since boarding their truck cab 20 hours before, a passable beta that’s willing to accept her knowing it all is truly a valued prize.

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  46. there is a term for the world we are inventing: bureagamy.

    one of the fundamental differences between men and women is risk aversion. women tend to be much more risk averse than men, which makes sense when you consider that men have many sperm and women only have two eggs and one uterus.

    furthermore, men take risks to achieve status. women used to achieve status through their men. the optimal female strategy was to attract the highest status man you could and then do everything to support him and help him achieve even more status. you then have a man and a woman working together to maximize the status of the family.

    things are changing now. women are achieving status on their own. personally, i have no problem with that fact in itself. the problem is that women still tend to want to mitigate against risk by looking for protection. and that is where the bureaugamy comes in. the ever-creeping, all-encompassing, incentive-distorting, sun-blotting behemoth that is become our government bureaucracy. it’s what allows women to have their cake and eat it too.

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  47. “Principled libertarians” in the strictest sense of the meaning probably would never get married. They view marriage today as state interference in their lives as the state now dictates who can get a marriage license and who can not, and what benefits, tax credits, etc. now one receives that they are married. Marriage in the way the state does it discriminates against single people.

    Marriage was for thousands of years simply a religious institution that government had no say in. Today every aspect of married life is dictated by the state. It’s been ruined.

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  48. on August 17, 2010 at 3:27 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    GBFM t shirts for womenz pink t shirts lzozlzozozl

    BERNANKIFIED BABE LOZOZOZZL

    BUTTHEX ISN’T JUST FOR BREAKFATHS ANYMORE.

    A COCK IN ASS IS WORTH TWO IN DA BUSH LOZZOZLZL

    WY ARE THERE NO GOOD MEN LEFT? AND WHY IS MY ANUTH SO SORE? LZOZOZZLZ

    FOLLOWING GINA TINGLES LEADS 2 CATS & SINGLES LZOZOL

    ALPHA FUCKS AND BETA BUCKS LZOZOZZL

    GOLMAN SAX RHYMES WITH TUCKER MAX LZOZLZLZL

    MARRY ME! I NEED U2 FUND MY FUTURE ASSOCKING SESSIONS.

    BERNANKE RHYMES WITH SPANK ME LZOZLZOZLLZZL

    THAT IS NOT HOW YOU SPELL BUTHTHEXX!!!! I GOT IT RIGHT ON MY LSATS!!! LZOZLZL

    SODOMY IS AS FREE AS MY STD!! LLZLOZLZZ

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  49. I have no idea how divorce laws work. Let’s say my wife threatened divorce. Could I transfer all my assets (money, cars, property) to my brother or a friend and say they were a gift or I owed him? Would she be able to get to them if I did that?

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  50. on August 17, 2010 at 3:28 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””””””on August 17, 2010 at 3:15 pm dalrock
    @Ben Elazar
    Religion is very important. Ensure that you and your family are involved in some sort of legitimate religious community. God will take care of the rest.

    This seems to be common belief, but everyone who says this gets awful quiet when I ask for a data source. Any chance this is my luck day?

    BTW, here is what I would have churches do relating to divorce.
    ””””””””
    We were in a extremly religious community.
    Both my parents super fucking religious.
    Woman have some poisoness fucking tongues.
    A fat gigantic bitch down the street was talking with my mom about how great it was being divorced and yea told her all about how to do it.
    But yea my mom still lost because the kids testified in court against her stupid ass.
    Which I would have rather been killed than be forced to do.
    But at same time I did not want my little sister to be with a woman who could fucking do that to someone who she spent 25 years of her life with and then decide that she wants to treat him like some kind of pile of feces and just fucking talk however she wanted and turn people against my dad like it was cool.
    But yea shit was nuts.
    All the religious pious motherfuckers turned on my dad and offered him no fucking help in any way shape or form only ostrazation and fucking everything that would be against someone believing in god.
    Now they kiss his fucking ass and apologize for what happened but that sure as fuck doesn’t change a fucking thing that happened at that time.
    It also doesn’t change the annulment my mom got of the marriage that fucking destroyed my dads soul.
    But yea I have thought about taking my entire family out many times. Many many times. We are all still in pain from the stupidity of the shit.
    Like I said before I don’t think christians really believe that there is a true god. Because they do not act like there is.
    They act like you need to punish someone on this earth instead of leaving it up to god to judge them.
    So yea let them be judged.

    All cool and the gang with christians unless they think your a sinner and then they are ready and willing to cast stones like a motherfucker.

    God does not come down from heaven and change shit on this earth.
    The devil does.

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  51. on August 17, 2010 at 3:30 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    FOLLOWING ANUTH TINGLES LEADS 2 CLAP & SHINGLES, WHICH I THOUGHT MEANT APPLAUSE AND A NICE HOUSE WITH A PRETTY CHINGLED ROOF LZOZLZOZLOZLZOZOZOZ I WAS NEOCONNED!!! LZOZOZZLZLZL AND I CRY TO MY CATS EVERY NIGHT LONGING FOR DA DAYS I WAS YOUNG, HOT, AND TIGHT, SAVING MY ANUTH FOR THE RIGHT MAN LOZOZLZLOZLZLZZOZLZO WOULD HAVE BEEN A BETTER PLAN LZOZOZOZLZL

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  52. (R)Evolutionary, I don’t know, that writer tries to knock marriage 1.0 by attacking other societal blemishes. You can say that women 200 years ago were chattel (which the goof ball reads as being traded like cattle) or that the legal age was 11, or that whites couldn’t marry blacks but that’s just a smoke screen to ignore that, yup marriage 1.0 has been around for a long time. In fact, he jumps from Old Testament hareming (which still exists in various places, still seems to be between a man and one to several girls, and I think is for life) to the middle ages as if that doesn’t matter.

    Coulter pointed out that the big turning point was a supreme court decision forcing unwed fathers to pay for their bastards. Up until that point, no ring no pay.

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  53. WY ARE THERE NO GOOD MEN LEFT? AND WHY IS MY ANUTH SO SORE? LZOZOZZLZ

    lolzzzz

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  54. on August 17, 2010 at 3:40 pm gunslingergregi

    Dam still getting emotional over that shit lol

    Fuck.

    That shit was so fucking fucked.

    Just destroyed the whole fucking family.

    But it probably actually saved me.

    So she sacrificed my dad so that I might live. Who knows it was definetly a valuable lesson in my life that has probably saved my ass from being fucked.

    Because if I would have went to college and married the first chick I actually fell in love with and I wouldn’t have known to have criteria for her to follow so that I could entrap her in some shit instead of me being responsible for everything. I might just have been just another guy who got divorced and paying the vagsupport.

    I guess overall it worked out for the best. I guess the most valuable lessons come hard as fuck.

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  55. on August 17, 2010 at 3:42 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    GODADMAIT ROISYSSYSY ROISSYYSYSS

    WHEN I GO TO DA BOOKSTORE I WANNA SE E YOUR BOOKS ON THE FORNT TABLES INSTEAD OF THAT STUPID NOOK DEVICE Lzozoolzllzlzlzlzlzzl

    I WANT TO BUY D A ROISSY BOOK AND TAKE IT HOME AND READ IT IN BED AS MY YOUNG HOTTIE DOZES OFF AFTER A GOOD LONG COCK IN DA GINA SESSIONS AS I DONT DO ASSOCKING

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  56. My wife was shocked that I took such pleasure in one of her acquaintances recent divorce. The woman, late 40’s, had literally been blathering about doing this since the first time we met about 8 yrs ago. Her husband, a physician, was a poster child of a boring & lame beta/herb provider.

    Yet she was just as annoying with her constant “fantasy” talk of how great things would be once she dumped him. And was overweight with a slight hoarding disorder to boot.

    I cut that relationship off at the knees soon after we met as per knowing how freaking cancerous these people and their attitudes are. We still manged to see them from time to time due to our kids attending the same school. As in the past, this lady just couldn’t stop talking about her future “plans” to dump the hubby.

    Well be careful what you wish for ladies. This woman got back in touch with my wife a few months ago to utilize her services (My wife has a cleaning business on the side) for preparing her home for the market. That’s why I’ve had a front row seat to this sad (kids are involved) but joyous occasion of watching some fool jump into a folly of their own making.

    Once the papers were served and the beta hubby got over his grief, he now appears to be on the road to making some changes that are destroying the wife’s vision of her single-life good times fantasy. I’m not sure who’s guiding him through this, but he’s taking their sage advice.

    Before he moves out the wife finds a new prescription for Viagra. Additionally, he also starts getting phone calls from some nurse. FYI to women like this lady- An MD that has above average income, regardless of looks and body type will almost always be capable of bagging a few slutty nurses. They are right up there with strippers with regards to promiscuity.

    Well this infuriates the wife and puts the hamster into overdrive. A few days after he moves out, all the utilities are shut off along with cell phones etc. She’s now panicking and reality is starting to set in. Of course she breaks down in tears at the terrible things happening in her life, incapable of accepting responsibility for her incredibly stupid actions. There was no reason to divorce him other than she was Bored!

    It gets better. She had been banking on “maintenance” pay aka “stealing” from her hubby for at least a year post divorce. He’s giving her a mere pittance (Our state has a defined length of time from filing, to court, to official separation) and she’s now jobless, almost homeless, and an emotional wreck. She’s beside herself with what to do.

    Too bad lady. You really do reap what you sow. She’s now looking for a shoulder to cry on and in her own words “needing someone to get her through this difficult time”. Here’ the topper. Her divorce lawyer, a chick, tells her she’ll be that shoulder to cry on but it’s gonna cost her! This was probably the same witch that had been feeding her all that feminist BS these past 6 years about how better off a woman can be when they ditch the husband.

    I’ve really enjoyed watching a sad sack of a guy start showing some balls and turning this situation around on this woman. It surprises me that women like her think that a beta hubby will remain that way once you kick sand in their face.

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  57. Unfortunately people seem to have very high expectations of marriage when setting out. If both men and women are compelled by their very biology to maximise their own interests marriage can never be what they want since men and women’s interests are quite different. Even if they have children together. It’s like trying to accomodate the interests of both the lion and the buck. While the ecosystem might be in balance ,and all seems well on that level ,either the buck gets caught and eaten or the lion goes hungry. Neither is “happy”very often.

    I don’t think any of us should be all that surprised or offended by womens behaviour. They are just following their script. The main problem is the different ways the law treats men vs women who’s actions eventualy result in some sort of problem. As has been stated here many times the problem is the current laws and PC thinking masively favours women. Just take away the incentives for poor behaviour and increase the penalties and the normal balance between men and women will be reinstated. Hell, just take away any $$ incentives and women will quickly readjust their behaviour. No use or need to apeal to fairness, justice etc. In pursuing their own interets women are not generaly interested in these abstract concepts.

    I’m less confident than most people on this board that becoming or acting like an alpha will resolve the battle of the sexes. At least not in LTR’s. I think of Alpha/Beta as a spectrum of behaviour rather than digital concepts. The more Alpha you are the hotter the women you can pull. But then they in turn can be more demanding in return since they are the female equivalent of Alpha. Frankly if you are a man high on the Alpha spectrum but your realtionship with a particular woman is going too smoothly for too long I’d be worried that you were dumpster diving and should be doing much better.

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  58. on August 17, 2010 at 3:56 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    hey you fucktards

    how many times od i gotsa say it

    divroce was created no fualt divorce was created by da noeocn e=bernakeytes as a method to transfer a man’s assets to the fiat masters as tehir fiat dollzrz is worthelss debt based and they need men to physically labor and commit to mowmenz so theycan be subsequently ass raped qurtedrd and cut oup in divorce ourt lzoososlssl

    a plank of teh communist/neoeonc manifesto is da elimation of teh fmaily and all the control of ceidt in a cnetral state bank (THE FED YOUSTUPOD FUCKS!!!)

    so like its just business as usial divorce war porn an war on the unborn ad preepmtive war from the dnoencs as their are vast profits 2 be made in war dispruotion chaos lzozozlzozo and they fund eecrteiv tapers of asscoking sessions reward them with havingtheir lies repeated in weekly standadth and have their lotsa fiat beernake cash wired form sodom and schuster and jonah joah honh jonah says tha womenz tame men after the neocns deosul and get done assocking them zlozozozl and send them forth as time bombs to explode families like just how lzozozlzozozlzozlzozozozlzozlzlzlzozozozlzozo like instead of being controoled by a cell phone call or activated by a cell phone call theydeosul women and convert them into time bombs lzozozozlzlzl and then show them things on tv that make their gina and as gtingle and BOOM goes da family as t is detaoryed, as women are conditioned to explode and tdestory the whole idea of god fmaily childrner god fmaily children when their gina tingls as the coproate state fiat medie amkes theirgina tingle with lady gaga videos who you can see is getting virtually assocked mking da mother of two long for hwer asscoking days whereupon she nbreaks up the family and ebernake gets a cut of the divorce prodceedsing s and too the fed gets access to program the kids now dat the father is forced out of da home so you see everyone iwns lzozzozlzllzlzl except for teh fucked up kids and civilizalion and the world and da men and teh future, but other than that, everyone win like godlman sax rhymes iwth tucker mz loll tuckermzx wins lzozlzlzlzl

    thisis how they are programming women to serve gina anuth tingles over man fmaily god orality all thsoe stupid things invented by dead whit e males lzozozlzlzlzllzl like freedom silly things like liberty lzozozozlz which is sooooo botring compared 2 asscoking sessions.

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  59. GUYS YOU HAVE TO READ THIS!

    http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/4505

    Its called: World Without Men: The Forgotten Novel of Totalitarian Lesbiocracy by Charles Eric Maine

    I was expecting the usual from there this week, saw that and about passed it. Its a great piece.

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  60. It’s for the best the richer partner pays the poorer partner as many men are making less money for their wives. That said, they’ll change the law if women keep outearning men to prevent breadwinning wives from paying alimony and child support to loser husbands. It’s only fair.

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  61. @The LP 999, My fiancée told me today, we need to save money on going out, because sex at home is free.

    To everyone else, you’re a bunch of pussies if you avoid the danger of getting married. No guts, no glory! Take my money, please! Life’s just too easy and therefore boring if you get laid by different women every day and don’t put your head in the guillotine which is manned by your spouse.

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  62. Brevity is the soul of wit

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  63. TLM that was a heartwarming story. It’s nice to hear a shrew get what she deserves. Justice. Good for that guy.

    Of course the ex-wife will barely, if ever, hold herself accountable for her situation right now. Accountability and women is a very rare combination.

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  64. on August 17, 2010 at 4:10 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    if it transfers wealth on up to ebrnake and risk on down to da common man den it must be good yah very very very good lzozllzlzl

    everything can be explained by this

    all these things are now good and rearded fith fita bernakeodllarsz:

    1) secrteiv tapigs of assocking sessions without the girlths conthent
    2) divorce no fualt dvricoee
    3) lotsa cocka
    4) deosuling
    5) illegal immirgation
    6) debt debcuahery deocnstruction lzozllzlz

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  65. Proof Roissy is on the right path: The girls are silent b/c they know the truth

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  66. greatbooks wtf r u retarded or is there some reason to your maddening linguistics?

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  67. on August 17, 2010 at 4:32 pm gunslingergregi

    ””””””’greatbooksformen GBFM
    GBFM t shirts for womenz pink t shirts lzozlzozozl

    BERNANKIFIED BABE LOZOZOZZL

    BUTTHEX ISN’T JUST FOR BREAKFATHS ANYMORE.

    A COCK IN ASS IS WORTH TWO IN DA BUSH LOZZOZLZL

    WY ARE THERE NO GOOD MEN LEFT? AND WHY IS MY ANUTH SO SORE? LZOZOZZLZ

    FOLLOWING GINA TINGLES LEADS 2 CATS & SINGLES LZOZOL

    ALPHA FUCKS AND BETA BUCKS LZOZOZZL

    GOLMAN SAX RHYMES WITH TUCKER MAX LZOZLZLZL

    MARRY ME! I NEED U2 FUND MY FUTURE ASSOCKING SESSIONS.

    BERNANKE RHYMES WITH SPANK ME LZOZLZOZLLZZL

    THAT IS NOT HOW YOU SPELL BUTHTHEXX!!!! I GOT IT RIGHT ON MY LSATS!!! LZOZLZL

    SODOMY IS AS FREE AS MY STD!! LLZLOZLZZ
    ””””””’

    Yo set that shit up. T-shirts bulk cheap. Then you got great idea. My bro used to pull a k a day on street but it was name brand shit so markup was low.
    But with that. Hell yeeeeeeeaaaaaa.
    Might help get you through college.
    I think it is hillarious they will give you a 100 g’s for a degree but not for a business. But yea anyway.
    I am just an idea man though why I need to make it follow through.
    Dispense the details to one of your ho’s.

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  68. on August 17, 2010 at 4:34 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    “John

    greatbooks wtf r u retarded or is there some reason to your maddening linguistics?”

    klzozoozlozozozlzl they tellz me i used 2 be crazy once klong ago

    they say i was crazy cracy back in seventh grade when i spelled everything good and right and one day i couldnt pay attention to my seventh grade teacher mrs. hollingsworth during sex ed gina tingle ed becaus eit bored me so indtead i read da boo the creature form jeckyll island about the fed and i went to the principle anmd asked him if he knwe that the fed moeny matsers create welath money out of thin air lzozzozlzlzllzz and start foriegn wars on foreign shores iwth it and send are alphas to die while funding short betas to asscok girls back home and taope it secrtely zlzozozozo

    so he principle said come her and he took me to da school munurse

    and he expalined the problem to her

    and she proscribed me a coaktail cock tail of lotsa good phamercuticals form teh noble phearmecuitcal companhies to make me pay attention and help wioth my diseas adhdddddddd adhd dhdhdhdhd d&d lozozozloozl ahdh
    attendtyio definit disorder lzozzlozzlzll

    so now i take pills and i don;t ask questisn and i pay ettention and ace mall my tests and life is sooo much lzozozzlzlzllzozoloer now i don’t quwestion nor complain about my mom banging biker cock and kicking my dad out but ui jst go lzozoozzl and pop pills in my single moms basementy and go lozzozlz and jack cars as they say mr dr bernanke wants me to do lzozllolzzlz i am a goood citizen now and now longer crazy so that is my story whats yours?
    and she gave me lotsa prescriptions lzozzzozo for ritallinadderoll

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  69. @TLM

    The story about the older doctor –

    I know exactly how a lot of women are going to react to this type of story. Poor Woman, evil man. Abandoned. Lost.

    It’s because women don’t see men as human. Men place huge (unwarranted) value on women; for women, men are functions.

    Please me! Tingle me! Impress me! Dance for me!

    The moment you stop doing this, bang, they’re gone. They have the loyalty of snakes. They see nothing wrong with this: it’s all about self-fulfillment and personal growth.

    *ANYTHING* a woman does as part of personal growth is acceptable. Women get a pass. Men never, ever do.

    Women will never admit this, because they’re hopelessly narcissistic. They can’t see why they hurt men.

    And then they can’t understand how the ex husband goes out and – lives better than she does. And cuts her off. And they feel sorry for the woman who absolutely screwed herself over and possibly destroyed the life of her ex-husband, as well.

    Dammit, the man deserves a fucking award for being able to rebuild a life after the sickening, revolting parasite of an ex-wife toodles off like some errant schoolgirl.

    If women can’t see how parasitic and viscerally disgusting the woman in this story is, there’s nothing for it.

    Women have no decency or moral sense as a gender. It’s all Me Me Me Me.

    You know what: It’s not our job to make women happy. It’s not our job to fulfill them.

    Don’t marry them. They were once women; in the context of marriage, they’re nothing but parasites.

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  70. on August 17, 2010 at 4:36 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    BUTTHEX THE BREAKFATH OF CHAMPHIONS (AND NEONCS LZOZLZZOL) !!

    DID YOU EVER NOTICKE BERNAKE IS SPELLED LIKE BANKEER LZOZLZOZLZOLZLZLZZZO I DID AND THE SCHOLL NURSE PRESRIBED ME PILLS DAT MAKE E GO LZOZOZOZLLZL ALL DAY LONG.

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  71. on August 17, 2010 at 4:38 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    i menat bernanke is spelled like bannkeer zlozozlzolllz

    th elord odth work in mysteriou saways and tucker mx rhyme siwth goldman sax ottotototot tototoo

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  72. @P.Bateman
    Proof Roissy is on the right path: The girls are silent b/c they know the truth

    I’ve noticed the total silence of the women.

    Nothing to say, I’m guessing.

    It truly is a nightmare for men.

    Within 10 years, mainstream media is going to be agonizing over the collapse of interest in marriage among white Americans. White American *males*.

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  73. on August 17, 2010 at 4:41 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    “now that my anuth has been neoconned and bernankified i am ready 2 settle down so please buy me a ring and pay my rent, child support, and alimony you beta. lzozlzlzllz”

    “price of my pussy: free for alphas. ring + rent + meals + alimony + child support for betas. lzozlllz”

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  74. on August 17, 2010 at 4:42 pm NeedSumBitches

    TLM – I’m hearing a lot more stories like those these days. Bottom line is, 30 something bitches are past their expiry date, so they are taking a big risk walking out on a marriage as they will only end up sperm receptacles that get pump and dumped. Like I said, I seeing more and more of it.

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  75. Dalrock,
    I can offer you some studies that I found on the web that show that religion is an important variable in determining the likelihood of divorce. Also, I can offer some anecdotal evidence from my particular community that could help.

    First of all, we have to get our facts correct. The widely repeated phrase of “50% of marriages in the U.S. end in divorce” (taken from a 2004 Rutgers study for the National Marriage Project, link below)

    http://www.virginia.edu/marriageproject/pdfs/SOOU2005.pdf)

    has to be understood. For what it is worth, this study shows that some sort of organized religion will decrease your likelihood of divorce by 14 percent. Also, it shows that if you have a decent income (>$50K a year), your parents are married, you have some college education and a kid, the likelihood of a divorce falls to probably low double or high single digits.

    This guessitmate is supported by a 2008 Pew Forum study. A very nice website tool will show you that most religions (Jews 9%, Catholics 10%, evangelical Protestants 13%) have a low double or high single digit divorce rate.

    http://religions.pewforum.org/

    I have seen datapoints that point to the divorce rate among Orthodox Jews <5%. As an orthodox Jew in NYC, I can't say I know a single family whose parents are divorced. Also, most observant couples have what is called a get, which is a religious document that says that a Jewish woman can't divorce a Jewish man without his consent. She will be shunned by the community and not allowed to remarry (i.e. no rabbi will remarry her).

    I read your post about the "divorce scores" for churches. Makes sense and it highlights the fact that the community must be accountable for each marriage in it. A failed marriage, to some extent, is a reflection upon and a responsibility of the community. However, this can only happen if members of that community pray in a group setting on a consistent basis.

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  76. Now: “I realized my husband was of no added value.”

    Then: Merle Haggard’s partly-autobiographical song about his Depresion-era parents:

    A canvas covered cabin in a crowded labour camp
    Stand out in this memory I revived;
    Cause my daddy raised a family there, with two hard working hands
    And tried to feed my mama’s hungry eyes.

    He dreamed of something better, and my mama’s faith was strong
    And us kids were just to young to realize
    That another class of people put us somewhere just below;
    One more reason for my mama’s hungry eyes.

    Mama never had the luxuries she wanted
    But it wasn’t cause my daddy didn’t try.
    She only wanted things she really needed;
    One more reason for my mama’s hungry eyes.

    I remember daddy praying for a better way of life
    But I don’t recall a change of any size;
    Just a little loss of courage, as their age began to show
    And more sadness in my mama’s hungry eyes.

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  77. Ok I have a question:

    I am young in college and not riding the cock carousel whatev.
    I have long had no desire to marry, my mind would change for the right guy of course but marriage and kids just aren’t really goals of mine.
    That being said all of the talk on this blog has me worried. I don’t want to be 40 and then start wishing for a family/marriage. What is the best route?
    Should I just leave it open to chance and hope I am one of the lucky ones not consumed with alpha/beta/game/hypergamy whatev?
    I get a lot of interest from older men (some already married) what do I do with that? Stick it in my pipe and smoke it?

    Of course I know that I want a garden midday wedding if applicable, so I am not completely lost.
    Also I don’t want a beta provider, I can provide for myself(no kids), so what should I be looking for in a partner?

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  78. on August 17, 2010 at 5:08 pm The Rational Male

    For guys like me who are hitting our late 30’s, in our prime, and looking to maybe settle down in the near future with one woman instead of dealing with the dating scene, THIS SHIT IS DEPRESSING.

    I have no choice but to move from one chick to the next. Even if the women were better and the divorce rate lower, who in their right mind would take a chance on getting ass raped in the event that it doesn’t work out?

    Five more years and I’m jumping ship. Only question is Asia, Eastern Europe, or Central/South America?

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  79. The truth says “Pump n dump is the best strategy.”

    Have you ever considered the middle way?

    Pump and dump is not the best strategy, if life satisfaction is your aim.

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  80. I have been married for well over 30 years. If something happened to our marriage, I would not get married again. Underline NOT. And my wife is one of the good ones but over the years you do end up being the beta version of whatever you were before you got married. Recently I have begun to reverse that course.

    I would never “date” or seek a long term relationship. That just leads back to the same place. Maybe a FWB but that would be it.

    I don’t know if there is game for a guy in his late 50’s but my guess is that there is. If there is I would play the field. “Deep Center Field.”

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  81. Xsplat oh no? Pray enlighten us with your keen wisdom then……

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  82. Gorbachev
    @P.Bateman
    “Proof Roissy is on the right path: The girls are silent b/c they know the truth

    I’ve noticed the total silence of the women.”

    That’s because the hamster wheel is redlining thinking of a response at work. The stock responses should start trickling in after a few glasses of wine at home.

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  83. @Swisschalet

    That would be considered fraudulent transfer just about everywhere, if not everywhere, and the court could order the return of the assets, etc.

    Of course, the availability of legal claims and the ultimate practical success of those legal claims are two different things. If your brother lives somewhere like Brazil, I doubt your future ex wife will be seeing the money.

    That having been said, planning asset protection in advance of a possible credit appearing on the horizon is perfectly legal. The longer in advance of a problem the planning is implemented, the better chance for success.

    There are also sorts of asset protection alternatives besides what you mentioned. That having been said, divorce courts have a lot more leeway to fuck you over than is likely to happen with respect to a different type of creditor than an ex wife.

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  84. one thing i will allow myself to comment on this thread as an icky icky woman is that your LTR/wife’s friends are poison and you should do everything you can either to find the kind of girl who dumps all her friends the minute she thinks shes in a relationship with you or demand veto power over potentially toxic friends.

    a woman’s friends are never supportive of her real relationship. when a gal is getting pumped and dump by some jerk and shes making self- serving excuses for him her friends will all agree, but when its a marriage or LTR and your woman is making excuses for you they shift gears to “he doesn’t deservce you!” “he doesn’t own you!” “what right does he have to tell you how to dress or where to go? YOU CAN DO BETTER!*”. they will tell her to dump you if you look at her cross-eyed and will then revel in her misery when she listens.

    *note: a woman’s friends will tell her this even if she is a 350lb, 39 year old mudshark with no teeth

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  85. There is another way of keeping your gf or wife! I have a hot gf I buy her stuff I am THERE for her as emotional support, I give her affection. Most of all I tolerate her occasional one-night stands with what you call “alphas” but what I call irresponsible meatheads/jocks. She just does it for sex and to blow off some steam but they’re not boyfriend material and at the end of the day she always comes back to me! Besides, I’ve learned to find her one-night stands erotic and I get turned on when she tells me stories about how she gets off with these “dominant” muscle-heads it’s pretty hot. I also don’t have as much pressure to “perform” and gain validation that way. We enjoy ourselves, I eat her out, and buy her things! It’s win-win and no she won’t leave me.

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  86. @ Kaikou

    You came to the wrong blog. This blog is written by men for men. A woman looking for advice here is like wearing a Boy George outfit to a Klan rally, it doesn’t end well.

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  87. @jon123
    There is another way of keeping your gf or wife! I have a hot gf I buy her stuff I am THERE for her as emotional support, I give her affection. Most of all I tolerate her occasional one-night stands with what you call “alphas” but what I call irresponsible meatheads/jocks. She just does it for sex and to blow off some steam but they’re not boyfriend material and at the end of the day she always comes back to me! Besides, I’ve learned to find her one-night stands erotic and I get turned on when she tells me stories about how she gets off with these “dominant” muscle-heads it’s pretty hot. I also don’t have as much pressure to “perform” and gain validation that way. We enjoy ourselves, I eat her out, and buy her things! It’s win-win and no she won’t leave me.

    I *LIKE* this troll.

    We should get it checked out, maybe spayed, though that doesn’t appear to be an issue, and then build a little house for it. Feed it a nice raw food diet and take it for the occasional walk.

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  88. Screw lefty sluts or sluts in the making who are hotties, but marry a centrist or conservative woman.

    But only with a prenup that mimics living together in the case of a divorce, and then only if you want to have children, like, tomorrow.

    Live together first though. This will be a harder sell with a conservative woman but you can do it. Centrists will go for it. A centrist who adores you will adopt a lot of your realist conservative views.

    Sell it as essential to be sure. Sure about full sharing a life together compatibility. And sure about the sex not going to hell when you’re committed to each other. Both of which things are genuinely good reasons to live together. But also here’s the thing. It’s vastly easier to sell a prenup that mimics living together in the event of a divorce, to a girl you’re living with at the time, than to one you’re not. Accuse her of being a golddigger in hiding if she still balks after you explain the horrors and unfairness to men of divorce 2.0.

    You know where she gets half your wealth and the house on top of sky high child support=also stealth alimony when SHE’s the one that cheated, won’t stop, and in fact insists on a divorce to go pursue new love again. Or when she gets fat, stays fat, and what’s more goes completely off sex after the second baby, not just for a few months but for years. And because of feminism and the mindset of marital rape laws, thinks she has no duty try hard as hell to sex her husband even when she’s not totally feeling it herself. The American married bitch.

    You should be in a place of her begging you to marry her “for our child” and to let her get preggers. You reluctantly agree instead of just having kids with her while living together, which you prefer, but only with that prenup. Myself I’d probably not do marriage instead of living together even with a kid on the way unless maybe if she were super religious.

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  89. anonymous, that is not true–i have used every word ive read here to better my marriage. a smart woman can benefit from reading what men say to OTHER men, instead of listening to the echo chamber of fags and women who lie to her constantly

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  90. jon123

    There is another way of keeping your gf or wife! I have a hot gf I buy her stuff I am THERE for her as emotional support, I give her affection. Most of all I tolerate her occasional one-night stands with what you call “alphas” but what I call irresponsible meatheads/jocks. She just does it for sex and to blow off some steam but they’re not boyfriend material and at the end of the day she always comes back to me! Besides, I’ve learned to find her one-night stands erotic and I get turned on when she tells me stories about how she gets off with these “dominant” muscle-heads it’s pretty hot. I also don’t have as much pressure to “perform” and gain validation that way. We enjoy ourselves, I eat her out, and buy her things! It’s win-win and no she won’t leave me.

    Knowing and permitting cuckolds of the world unite!!! (All 200k or so of you.)

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  91. @dana
    anonymous, that is not true–i have used every word ive read here to better my marriage. a smart woman can benefit from reading what men say to OTHER men, instead of listening to the echo chamber of fags and women who lie to her constantly

    Echo chamber of fags and women who lie to her constantly. I love it.

    I’d rephrase it: Echo chamber of fags and hags.

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  92. on August 17, 2010 at 5:48 pm too late for romance

    TLM @3:49

    Great story!

    Nothing is as satisfying as watching some cunt get exactly what she wanted and then realize that the horrible reality of what she’s done shatters her delusional little worldview.

    I’ve seen a similar story with a banker and it was beautiful to behold. His wife thought she was clever but forgot she was dealing with a smart motherfucker with friends with the proper skillsets.

    It’s like watching a youtube video of a shittalker getting knocked the fuck out by the quiet short guy just minding his own business, but he’s actually a boxer with a wicked lead hook. Nothing satisfies quite like Schadenfreude. That should be a beer slogan.

    With any luck maybe the fat bitch in your story will off herself in some particularly entertaining way and I’ll get to read about it some morning over coffee.

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  93. The one consolation is that the women who abandon their husbands end up as dried-up old cat ladies.

    In a happier world, this Eat Pray Love would be on the customs banned list. This shit is as dangerous as plutonium, and a lot more common.

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  94. Option 3:

    Revenge – Let’s take revenge on these bitches. Guys need to treat divorced women like shit. I mean real shit. Spit on them, spill drinks on them, beat the crap out of them if you can get away with it.

    This shit will end when men stand up against it. The guy who gets raped can’t do anything due to DV laws, but that doesn’t stop the rest of us.

    There aren’t enough police to protect golddiggers if we really do something about it.

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  95. @dana

    All blogs are echo chambers, this one is no exception.

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  96. […] Prior essay: The Bat­tle of the Sexes. Else­where: Roissy gives his own thoughts. […]

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  97. on August 17, 2010 at 5:59 pm Middle Greek Letter

    @Kaikou & @jon123:

    Troll alert!

    Poison friends are one of the most virulent vectors of divorce. Incestuous rationalizations run wild. Immediately replace all of your LTR’s friends with your own.

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  98. on August 17, 2010 at 6:01 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    Anonymous

    @dana

    All anuthes are echo chambers, this one is no exception.

    lozloolzoloozzl

    more GBFM pink t-shirts for womenz:

    NO CUNTRY HAS EVER BUTTHEXED ITS WAY TO PROPSERITY–ONLY ANUSTRY CAN DO THAT LZOZOOZOOZOLZOZOZOLOZZLOOZLZLOZLZLLZL

    SECRETIVE TAPINGS OF ASSOCKINGS WITHOUT THE GILRTHS CONTHENT DO NOT MAKE A GOOD WIFE, NO MATTER WHAT DA NEOCONS TRY TO SELL YOU LZOOZZOLZLZL

    “LET THEM EAT BUTTHEX”

    THE NATIONAL DEBT CANNOT BE CURED WITH MORE BUTTHEX

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  99. anonymous–i was talking about real life–not blogs

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  100. Men “appear” to be useless to women. Until something heavy has to be lifted. I think the author was being a bit tongue in cheek about option #2. Sexing up ton of hot chicks maybe be fun for the few men whose game is good enough to do so but in the long run it means the end of civilization. Life isn’t all that fun when you constantly have to be looking over your shoulder.

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  101. From a base perspective, men have let this happen. Not just the male politicians lying down for feminism, but individual men themselves. If I’ve sacrificed so much for somebody, and she has the gall to leave me on a whim, taking my house, car, kids, and money, she’s gonna be put in the hospital. or all her things are gonna be destroyed, etc.

    “Oh no, you can’t go to jail!” I won’t need to. If more men get married to women, telling them in no uncertain terms “I don’t believe in divorce. There will be no divorce in my family.” She will know where you stand. Remind her every once in a while. Men need to be men, and if you let her imagine extreme negative consequences for divorcing you, if might make her think twice. Take control of your property. More men need to put fear in women for divorcing, because shame is gone in society, the media is against us, the laws are against us, etc. We just have ourselves.

    This is in addition to the fact that we need to work to reform the shitty laws, etc. We need to band and vote and change things. But on an individual level, we need to show we are the fucking boss.

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  102. Jack; the full power of the state is behind these harpies. You do any of the things you talked about and you are going to have thugs in SWAT gear come and own your ass.

    The best course of action is to refrain from marriage, cohabitation and kids.
    Learn game and pump n dump or have LTRs without cohabitation. That is more challenging since eventually they all wanna get married…

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  103. In my opinion if the divorce laws were the exact opposite of what they are (men got default custody, men were paid alimony by women, and men got child support):
    Many men would be cheating on their wives, divorcing them on the flimsiest grounds imaginable, treating their wives as “chores” and not human beings at home, and aiding and abetting their friends’ marital infidelities. I dont think men would do this as often as women are doing it now, becuase they are inherently fairer in their ids, but I think that it would be going on quite a bit though.

    I think that evil laws get latently evil people to become actively evil people.

    If the situation is not reformed, the religious will keep outbreeding the secular throughout the West by simply maintaining replacement birthrates (the religous have replacement birthrates).

    For PUA’s who’d like to settle down………..churches and synagogues have a supply of young females who usually are pretty devoutly religous and really believe they will burn in hell if they are adultresses, etc. The more intense the church (Babtists, Pentacostals, Conservative Church-of-Christ), the more fidelity one could probably expect from said girls.

    Ive got a pal in the loan business married to a Church-of-Christ gal (a teacher). She’s cute, genuinely friendly, active in her church (he is teaching a Sunday School class), and very traditional. She is as sweet as honey. He cant cuss around her without a little reprimand, and I doubt he’d ever get her to do anything like bring home a friend of hers for a threesome, or some of the more extreme sex acts, but he has a faithful wife who loves him.

    We are entering the second generation of males to be wronged in courts in divorces. The word is getting out. I imagine that in ten or fifteen years more time, more men will be swooping church/synagogue girls for marriage because those are the kinds of girls that for religous reasons are less likely to take that divorce-theft-bonanza from a man in court, leaving him without his kids and penniless. I imagine more feminist chicks will be getting pumped and dumped in their twenties and getting madder and madder, calling for more and more unfair matrimonial laws that cause them to be even bigger P&D targets in a unholy vicious cycle of cum-dumpstery. Boo-hoo for them.

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  104. Um…wow. I am not a troll. I have been reading this blog for over 2 years and just started commenting recently.
    I just picked the wrong post to put out my question, should of waited for a game/flirting post.

    @dana I agree, I never just take one kind of person perspective on anything. Someone can be the complete opposite of you and make the most sense.

    Anyways, seriously @Roissy what is in the cards for women who don’t intend to marry.

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  105. I also like being put on the same level as the cuckold.

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  106. I don’t get it, Thursday.

    What is your stance on religion?

    Are you for or against it?

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  107. Hah Z. Church girls are some of the worst sluts around, many of them are at church because that’s what their parents expect – not because they choose to be there. Then when they divorce your sorry ass, they will take YOUR money. Marry some feminist chick with a job but make her submissive to you first with as much or nearly as much money and less chance of her raping your ass.

    As for you Single Man, you are lucky if you and your close friends are not the children of divorced parents. Many men are. I doubt many would want their mothers treated the way you advocate.

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  108. I’ve been praying for polygamy for years. Hell the only reason I don’t have two more wives right now is because its illegal.

    I’ve been preaching the return of polygamy ever since gay marriage started gaining momentum. What I think is ironic will be the anti-gay marraige people who were right when they said it would lead to polygamy. The arguments for the two are exactly the same, and the best part is, that there isn’t a religious objection!

    The Bible and Torah never ban polygamy, and Islam openly supports it. I can’t think of any reason that any Eastern faith would oppose it. What objection could there be?

    I just hope that we get polygamy faster than the gays got marraige. Nothing better than prenups coupled with other wives to cripple women in divorce court. “You want to take the roof away from these other women and kids?” Watch the women turn on the divorcee. The other wives constantly remind her of your options and social proof, all you need is decent game and you are set!

    Hell if you did it right, you could live off the labor provided by an aging cougar that you don’t actually love, who was forced to settle, while banging away at the young hot wives.

    Betas lose though.

    Of course that isn’t any different from now…

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  109. As for worrying about who’s going to be having the children, there are three options.

    1- trick guys into having kids, then suck them dry for child support and alimony. Oh, already there.

    2- Create new arrangements whereby women don’t use men for sex or money, they just have kids on their own artificially (oh, already there). Men are obsolete and unnecessary except for occasional sex from a few alphas to make women feel desired.

    3- Wait!

    Don’t you know? The desire to have children is a symptom of false consciousness! They steal your energy and plunge you into a nightmare of oppression and bitterness!
    Having children is nothing more than a Capitalist-Imperialist-Patriarchal plot to enslave women. Voluntary Non-Motherhood is True Freedom!

    And you know, if we need to, we can reduce the pressure on the planet by importing people from elsewhere to prop up the state systems that keep we fat, bloated Feminazi government-worker Collegeocrats in the green.

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  110. imagine more feminist chicks will be getting pumped and dumped in their twenties and getting madder and madder, calling for more and more unfair matrimonial laws

    —-

    Most feminist chicks hate women who don’t work and rape their husbands asses in divorce. They hate them more than they hate SAHMs.

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  111. @Anonymous
    Most feminist chicks hate women who don’t work and rape their husbands asses in divorce. They hate them more than they hate SAHMs.

    So it’s a war between conservatives holding men up to some chivalrous standard that hasn’t applied in two generations and feminists who think women who don’t work are garbage.

    Okay.

    So how do we get rid of them both? Seems to me that the men are being caught in the crossfire.

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  112. on August 17, 2010 at 7:04 pm Mu'Min Seeks FAAAAT WuMin

    Those of the cold, damp forests of Europe certainly evolved different traits than those of the hot, dry African savannah.

    That is why black women evolved to resemble the great beasts of the savannah, that were big enough to have no natural predators. These are the elephant, rhinoceros, hippopotamus, and Cape buffalo.

    Black men prefer women who resemble these great megafauna. Size, shape, color, and texture are parameters of resemblance, and are valued by black men in black women.

    This is why black men’s sexual preferences are so different from those of other men. It makes sense from an evolutionary perspective.

    The rising obesity of American women is making these women LESS attractive to white men, but MORE attractive to black men. America is becoming a sexual paradise for fattie-seeking black men.

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  113. This board is starting to remind me of the spearhead. You guys are UPSET about the vast supply of pussy available to the average jerk these days?

    Moral of the story- you no longer have to be able to provide to get laid consistently as a young up and comer and into middle age. In fact, status as a provider is frankly more likely to leave you unsatisfied in your romantic life than the opposite. Many worker bees are leaving the hive.

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  114. Paul,

    The abundance of sweet puss-puss is all well and good, but I don’t want a collapsing West. And these trends will destroy our world.

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  115. Men are not obsolete. They are the backbone of our society. We don’t live in the plains and jungles of Sub-Saharan Africa. Men are the builders and maintainers of civilization. If it breaks down there will be no government or laws at all. It will be savagery. See how long you ‘alphas’ last when you try to amass harems and all the lesser men begin to plot against you. You guys are far too intelligent to think that polygamy could actually work for European mankind.

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  116. on August 17, 2010 at 7:15 pm gunslingergregi

    You who mourn the loss
    of your life
    when it is
    nothing but strife
    cannot believe the truth
    with your own eyes
    that all you have to do
    to be a man
    is say I can

    Really from a guy who has faced death hundreds upon hundreds of times. There really is no fear at the moment of truth. When the adrenaline is kicking and your nerves are calm and your eyes can pierce steel. You brain is on another plain and you could care less the army raised against you. At your purest moments none of the bullshit matters except that you go as a man.

    There is nothing to fear at the end.
    It is between the beginning and the end where the fear is.
    Erase that fear for the end is the opposite of fear but rejoicing in finally going home to join your brothers who also went as men into the unknown to be a hero in your own eyes.

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  117. Kipling said it best:

    “On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
    (Which started by loving our neighbor and ended by loving his wife)
    Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
    And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “The Wages of Sin is Death.”

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  118. Kaikou don’t KNOCK it till you tried it! I get to keep my gf and she knows I’m THERE for her day after day. I am supportive and I empower her in her sexual dalliances. Yes, she does get to eat her cake and have it too, but that’s the prerogative of women smart enough to know how to get what they want. The question is, what is the MATURE and RESPONSIBLE thing to do?? Those guys she hooks up with are immature and irresponsible, yes they give her great sex but sex is not everything in life there are such things as commitment and a nurturing, caring relationship that she knows she can only get from me. You should want your gf to be happy and if having the occasional one-night stand is what makes her happy I accept it and encourage it! It is something special we share!

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  119. Paul: We’re upset because that system is unsustainable. Just who is going to provide for all the children you sire as there will be no more birth control manufactured after the infrustructure has been abandoned and left in ruin. What are you going to do about the hordes of bloodthrisy betas raging at their lot in life desiring nothing more than to crush guys like you and your progeny when there is no more order and no more laws to constrain them?

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  120. @jon123

    Kaikou don’t KNOCK it till you tried it! I get to keep my gf and she knows I’m THERE for her day after day. I am supportive and I empower her in her sexual dalliances. Yes, she does get to eat her cake and have it too, but that’s the prerogative of women smart enough to know how to get what they want. The question is, what is the MATURE and RESPONSIBLE thing to do?? Those guys she hooks up with are immature and irresponsible, yes they give her great sex but sex is not everything in life there are such things as commitment and a nurturing, caring relationship that she knows she can only get from me. You should want your gf to be happy and if having the occasional one-night stand is what makes her happy I accept it and encourage it! It is something special we share!

    Oh my God.

    I thought you were just a joke. But it turns out, you’re for real. Of course, this doesn’t significantly alter my first impression.

    Man, if your testicles got any smaller I’d swear you were a woman.

    You have to be. Female troll?

    Anyway, that sounds like a great arrangement – if your GF is hot, I’ll bet there’s a roomful of hot Alphas waiting to tool her and shove you aside. Maybe you can bring them beer in between joyrides.

    Just make sure, when they’re fucking your GF senseless, and she’s screaming and enjoying how much better than you they are, how wild and feminine they make her feel, that you, as her Male Girlfriend, politely wait while she lets strange men drive her senselessly into orgasm after orgasm.

    Maybe she’ll let you rearrange her furniture or do her laundry while she dreams of real men in her bed.

    I guess there really are sad sack male tools out there. The bonus is that they clearly won’t be breeding. I mean, if you’re going to be someone’s appendage, you might as well be the appendage of someone who will disrespect and tool you like a proper whore.

    I think you’ll be holding on to this one for a long time, for sure.

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  121. Thursday–

    Mormons aren’t really a Christian group, but they are the best behaved denomination.

    How can you say that? And why do you?

    It seems to me that any religion which believes in the divinity and primacy of Christ is Christian.

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  122. @jon123

    Let me guess there are black men and your women is a hott mature getting seeded and bred. When’s the next baby due?

    @Everyone

    This thread is getting sick.

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  123. Women who divorce for stupid, phony reasons ALWAYS lose in the end. It’s like the way the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor and destroyed the U.S. battleship fleet but ended up losing the war.

    Ok, so you get to throw off the boring husband who “stifles” you and keeps you from being carried off by a new Prince Charming. So you get some alimony and child support. So what. This is all in the here and now.

    But here’s the future. Everyone who ever really knew your husband will want nothing to do with you in the future, including your kids. At best, they may profess their love for you, and still give you Mothers Day cards, but deep down they’ll never really forgive you for what you did to Dad. At worst, your children will hate you forever.

    Meanwhile, you’re getting old. You may be the center ring attraction of a cougar sexual circus, but that can only last for 5-10 years tops, and only if you’re under 40. Hope you have a career already, because no one is going to let you start a new one at 45-50, unless you’re itching to enter the food service or retail industries.

    So let’s look at our divorcee at 65. She’s no longer attractive to anyone. She’s still working some crappy low skill job which makes hardly any money because she can’t afford to EVER stop working. Her kids don’t visit, except for a couple hours on Christmas, and even then they’re itching to leave for the big dinner at their Father’s house, with him and their hot younger step-mom who their Father bagged after Moby Dick swam away.

    The divorcee could still have been the devoted wife and loving mother. Instead, she will wither and die bitter and alone.

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  124. Paul,
    I understand what you are saying, but these casual relationships you are having probably aren’t as fulfilling as a deeper one would be. Much of a man’s worth comes from having people depend on him.

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  125. I hope Bernanke is planning a good exit strategy. Not a “How am I going to save the economy,” but a literal “How the fuck am I going to get out of this country” plan. Because when the shit explodes soo many people are going to want his head

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  126. Jcc,

    You’re right – it will end badly for the woman, every single time.

    Trouble is, there’s a lot of collateral damage along the way. The husbands and children (even in their twenties, a parental divorce can be a very traumatic event).

    And a man who permits his wife to betray him is ill-advised, at best.

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  127. The principal provisions of prenup, aside from stuff to make it as airtight as possible should be:

    1) Alimony. No alimony or spousal support as such under almost any circumstances regardless of how long the marriage lasts. It’s the agreement of the parties that both spouses should make every effort to work in a way that substantially financially contributes to the union at all times during the marriage except possibly before any child begin school, and even then part time work is what the stay at home parent should make every effort to do. The exceptions would be if she’d otherwise be a ward of the state and would last the earlier of her getting a job or three years. It would be at a low level adjusted for inflation and not increasing with his income.

    2) Division of Assets. No transfer of wealth from one spouse to the other period. Wealth brought into the marriage or received as a gift or inheritance belongs to the party bringing it in, including the investment returns on that wealth. (It’ should be held in separate accounts.) Wealth earned during the marriage should be divided pro rata according to who earned it. Neither ex-spouse shall have any inheritance rights from the other, nor shall their children. That’s up to each ex-spouse in their wills.

    3) Child custody and support. As a matter you’re putting before the court for it’s consideration and as a binding matter should the law change to allow that to be determined or made the presumptive result unless the unique facts of the case make that very likely harmful for the child, the couple is entering into marriage with the agreement that they wish there to be joint shared physical custody of any children of the marriage on an approximately 50/50 basis, with no child support paid by either parent to the other but rather directly spent in supporting the child. It’s the further agreement of the couple that child support payment for more expensive items which are mutually agreed should be split pro rata according to the parent’s respective incomes.

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  128. I just watched the nature program “Animal Sex”. In the animal world the female will very often kill off the male of the species who’s shagging her.

    The producers of this program looked at the animal kingdom and concluded that monogamy is “deviant behaviour”.

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  129. Laura–

    Much of a man’s worth comes from having people depend on him.

    She and their children will depend on him and on doing genuine best in the relationship a whole lot more if the man requires her to agree to the terms of a prenup I outlined just above before he’ll consent to move from living together without children to marrying her with children immediately planned.

    It avoids the man giving massive hand away as soon as he say “I do” in a marriage ceremony and signs the marriage license. So much hand that it lowers him at least one notice on the alpha scale as soon as the honeymoon is over and the wife gets to talking with her girl friends, some of whom are contemplating divorce.

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  130. Monogamy in the animal world is as rare and deviant as creating right triangles

    have fun living in huts

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  131. jon123

    You should want your gf to be happy and if having the occasional one-night stand is what makes her happy I accept it and encourage it! It is something special we share!

    Do you at least do the same yourself?

    If not, why not?

    Does she not want to make you happy?

    Or are you a male submissive, with in many respects reversed gender roles in your femdom or at least female lead relationship. Or tiny dicked and/or impotent?

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  132. You haven’t addressed the real issue: the divorce lawyers. They encourage the horrific divorces, bogus police complaints, etc.. all tactical. Forget poverty, loss of children, perpetual litigation… jailtime is a real possiblity.

    A bullet proof ironclad prenup in a fault state is the only way to go.

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  133. Gorby-

    Just saw this:

    Gorbachev

    @Anonymous
    Most feminist chicks hate women who don’t work and rape their husbands asses in divorce. They hate them more than they hate SAHMs.

    So it’s a war between conservatives holding men up to some chivalrous standard that hasn’t applied in two generations and feminists who think women who don’t work are garbage.

    Okay.

    So how do we get rid of them both? Seems to me that the men are being caught in the crossfire.

    hahaha. I love it.

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  134. @ Kaikou, no she is 27 and no they’re not black, why…do you like black men? That’s alright, there are all kinds of alternative sexualities today. Live and let live!! That’s why this world is so great.

    @ Gorbachev I assume that with your macho Russian name you are trapped in unrealistic expectations of masculinity and wanting to “own” a woman. In the more enlightened world we have come to abandon pretense to outmoded definitions of masculinity that entrap both men and women in a spiral of false consciousness.

    When I kiss her after one of her all-night fuck sessions and she is glowing I know she is happy!

    And yes I have called her one-night stand on the phone to thank him for making her happy, she told me to do it but I also meant it! He was just a jock from her gym though and doesn’t understand the special relationship we have!

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  135. @cap’n bob

    In a happier world, this Eat Pray Love would be on the customs banned list. This shit is as dangerous as plutonium, and a lot more common.

    I think you mean: Sit, Stare, Yawn

    My wife and I were just talking yesterday about how Lifetime movies should come with a warning label like cigarettes do. Women make really dumb choices based on the fantasies these movies sell. They really believe that if they divorce late in life a world of high quality men will beat a path to their doors, passing by all of the younger women. I tease her sometimes that I’m going to call one of her female friends and suggest they take her to a chick flick. Aside from me calling her a feminist during an argument, nothing pisses her off faster.

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  136. Paul–

    You guys are UPSET about the vast supply of pussy available to the average jerk these days?

    I think that would come as a great surprise to the average jerk out of college in his twenties these days. At least if you’re talking about cute girls who aren’t fat (average girls, outside of the fat issue).

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  137. Wife Freudian Slip?

    Talking to old friends recently, long married and many kids. He has a hard dangerous business (steeple jack). She is telling about a man they knew who fixed marine engines and flew all over the East coast to run his business. He and his chief mechanic died in a freak thunderstorm flying to a job. She concluded the story:

    “The bad part was, nobody knew how to run his business.”

    Her husband and I both laughed and made jokes about it, but I think we both got the point.

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  138. What a beta out of college in his early or mid twenties who’s learning game should do is find himself a fit relatively good looking cougar to have a once or twice a week or so fuck buddy fling with. Be dominant with her despite the age gap. The younger a cougar she is the better. Any divorced women with kids in her middle thirties on up is a cougar to guys in their 20s. It’s safer for you and she’ll be easier to bed if she’s got kids.

    But don’t let her distract you. She’s to keep you sane. You job is to practice game, starting with girls at your own level (mid beta = cute girl 6) until you’ve bedded a few, then moving up to considerably harder 7s, who can get at least lesser alphas on the regular.

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  139. Great advice from the master:

    On Child and Marriage.

    I have a question for you alone, my brother: like a sounding lead, I cast this question into your soul that I might know how deep it is.

    You are young and wish for a child and marriage. But I ask you: Are you a man entitled to wish for a child? Are you the victorious one, the self-conqueror, the commander of your senses, the master of your virtues? This I ask you. Or is it the animal and need that speak out of your wish? Or loneliness? Or lack of peace with yourself?

    Let your victory and your freedom long for a child. You shall build living monuments to your victory and your liberation. You shall build over and beyond yourself, but first you must be built yourself, perpendicular in body and soul. You shall not only reproduce yourself, but produce something higher. May the garden of marriage help you in that!

    You shall create a higher body, a first movement, a self-propelled wheel—you shall create a creator.

    Marriage: thus I name the will of two to create the one that is more than those who created it. Reverence for each other, as for those willing with such a will, is what I name marriage. Let this be the meaning and truth of your marriage. But that which the all-too-many, the superfluous, call marriage—alas, what shall I name that? Alas, this poverty of the soul in pair! Alas, this filth of the soul in pair! Alas, this wretched contentment in pair! Marriage they call this; and they say that their marriages are made in heaven. Well, I do not like it, this heaven of the superfluous. No, I do not like them—these animals entangled in the heavenly net. And let the god who limps near to bless what he never joined keep his distance from me! Do not laugh at such marriages! What child would not have cause to weep over its parents?

    Worthy I deemed this man, and ripe for the sense of the earth; but when I saw his wife, the earth seemed to me a house for the senseless. Indeed, I wished that the earth might tremble in convulsions when a saint mates with a goose.

    This one went out like a hero in quest of truths, and eventually he conquered a little dressed-up lie. His marriage he calls it.

    That one was reserved and chose choosily. But all at once he spoiled his company forever: his marriage he calls it.

    That one sought a maid with the virtues of an angel. But all at once he became the maid of a woman; and now he must turn himself into an angel.

    Careful I have found all buyers now, and all of them have cunning eyes. But even the most cunning still buys his wife in a poke.

    Many brief follies—that is what you call love. And your marriage concludes many brief follies, as a long stupidity. Your love of woman, and woman’s love of man—oh, that it were compassion for suffering, and shrouded gods! But, for the most part, two beasts find each other.

    But even your best love is merely an ecstatic parable and a painful ardor. It is a torch that should light up higher paths for you. Over and beyond yourselves you shall love one day. Thus learn first to love. And for that you had to drain the bitter cup of your love. Bitterness lies in the cup of even the best love: thus it arouses longing for the Superman; thus it arouses your thirst, creator. Thirst for the creator, an arrow and longing for the Superman: tell me, my brother, is this your will to marriage? Holy I call such a will and such a marriage.

    Thus Spoke Zarathustra.

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  140. OT

    Now this is my idea of a girl who’s unquestionably a 10. A high ten at that.

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  141. Father Custody is needed, not shared parenting which will give the government MORE power.

    Marriage 1.0 was based on providing MEN with children.

    Women have a natural “right” to have children, with men or without them, aside from a sperm deposit – that’s what owning a womb entails.

    Marriage was about providing a reliable reproductive output for MEN, and therefore, men should stop this nonsense about shared parenting. Fuck that. Either you choose to be a father, or you don’t. Shared parenting is a crock of shit that only empowers government.

    Men ought to manipulate the dialectic and hitch a ride on the backs of Gay Rights activists, and insist on improving surrogacy laws/access for men – both gays and heteros.

    Marital rape laws have already made it so that sexual intercourse is not required to have a “family.”

    Single mothers have made it so that all families are “equal.”

    Men ought to manipulate the system so as to create a form of “family” that is exactly like marriage 1.0 – where the father is the one with 100% custody of the legitimate children he chose to father. All other spawn are not his problem – just like a harlot getting an abortion is able to negate her responsibility.

    All families are equal – so men should create a subset of family based on 100% Father Custody (call it a different name to appease the politically correct) and then ask women what it is, exactly, they are offering besides sex.

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  142. Thanks Ben Elazar

    I hadn’t seen that study in the first link. It looks very good at first reading. I wasn’t able to find the resource you referred to in the second link though.

    I have seen datapoints that point to the divorce rate among Orthodox Jews <5%. As an orthodox Jew in NYC, I can't say I know a single family whose parents are divorced. Also, most observant couples have what is called a get, which is a religious document that says that a Jewish woman can't divorce a Jewish man without his consent. She will be shunned by the community and not allowed to remarry (i.e. no rabbi will remarry her).

    Wow. That is how it should be. I think remarriage is the key to turning the whole problem around in the US. It wouldn’t require a law change and guys wouldn’t be hurting themselves at all. All that needs to happen is for men (at least quality men) to refuse to ever marry a divorced woman, no matter how good her story is. Some honest women will unfortunately get caught at the same time, but I’ve never met a divorced woman who didn’t have an elaborate tale of ex husband doom. When you meet the guy and hear his side of the story, it all becomes much clearer. I think this process is already happening. No one wants to be the second sucker in this kind of woman’s life. Bad enough to be the first…

    I read your post about the “divorce scores” for churches. Makes sense and it highlights the fact that the community must be accountable for each marriage in it. A failed marriage, to some extent, is a reflection upon and a responsibility of the community. However, this can only happen if members of that community pray in a group setting on a consistent basis.

    There was a recent study which found that divorce is “catchy” like a disease. If a church wants to stop the spread they have it in their power. But like I say in the post first they have to care. I put out the challenge at the end of that post for readers to print it out for their pastors. As far as I know no one has dared. Probably a good idea. Finding a new congregation is a pain in the neck I hear. Better to keep the illusion that they care. I would say your community has the right to say they really do care without such measures, but the vast majority of congregations don’t in my opinion. There are very trustworthy women in church, and there are extremely false ones. Telling the difference is what men need to get good at if they want to marry.

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  143. Surprised you can tell Doug being that she’s buried under a sheen of photoshop and makeup.

    /pet peeve

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  144. If only greatbooksformen listens to Alex Jones and reads the truth about the Fed around here, then America is really doomed.

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  145. @Gorbachev
    Dammit, the man deserves a fucking award for being able to rebuild a life after the sickening, revolting parasite of an ex-wife toodles off like some errant schoolgirl.

    If women can’t see how parasitic and viscerally disgusting the woman in this story is, there’s nothing for it.

    I’m working on a post on Brothers Grimm tales with the help of my wife. She was raised on the real deal, not the Disney version. The difference is huge. Instead of women needing to just “be” to find a good husband, they have to work their asses off and prove they aren’t too proud and are trustworthy. Your final line echoes the moral of the story titled “The Lazy Spinning Woman” about a wife who won’t work hard, and tricks her husband into thinking it is his fault. Aside from the obvious message to young men to be on the lookout for bad behavior, there is clear judgment of the woman at the end. Something we refuse to do in our culture. The final line of the story is:

    But you yourself must admit that she was a disgusting woman.

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  146. Dalrock,

    It’s chilling how a lot of women base their decisions on fantasy. An example: the “ladies” all over the world who identify with characters from the leaky septic tank that was Sex and the City. This is as good a reason as any to question women’s rights.

    A return of fault-based divorce is a good idea. Preferably with newspaper coverage. Make it as gladiatorial as possible, and suddenly those Carribean idylls, far from hubby and the kids won’t look so good to a restless wife

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  147. Besides, there may be hope.

    Sylvester Stallone and The Expendables killed Eat, Pray,Love at the box office.

    A small victory, but it all countd

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  148. On the topic of women remarrying after divorcing their husbands, there is something every man on this board has in their power. Refuse to attend any wedding of a previously divorced woman. Going to the wedding is your stamp of approval on the union; withhold your approval. If this became a custom, we would see a sharp drop in divorce.

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  149. It’s chilling how a lot of women base their decisions on fantasy. An example: the “ladies” all over the world who identify with characters from the leaky septic tank that was Sex and the City.

    I once had a female acquaintance offer to let my wife borrow the entire SATC DVD collection.

    I told her hell no, if I see them in my house, I’ll throw ’em all away.

    She’s now in her late 30’s and working on her cats & vibrators collection and always bitching about how there are no good men left.

    One of my favorite quips to her is “SATC was a TV show, not real life!”

    This used to make her laugh.

    The last time I said it to her, she changed the subject.

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  150. I’ll never understand why people have such a strong allegiance to their race.

    White women, black women, Asian women, Hispanic women, ect. They are all the same, and are all just as likely to steal your wealth and accuse you of rape.

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  151. Dave From Hawaii,

    That was one box set worth avoiding. Produced legions of cat ladies.There is a place for those DVDs and it’s Yucca Mountain.

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  152. dalrock–

    Wow. That is how it should be. I think remarriage is the key to turning the whole problem around in the US. It wouldn’t require a law change and guys wouldn’t be hurting themselves at all. All that needs to happen is for men (at least quality men) to refuse to ever marry a divorced woman, no matter how good her story is. Some honest women will unfortunately get caught at the same time, but I’ve never met a divorced woman who didn’t have an elaborate tale of ex husband doom. When you meet the guy and hear his side of the story, it all becomes much clearer.

    This will never work because of the phenomenon know as “the tragedy of the commons”. If you don’t know what that means consider your self education seriously lacking if you don’t look it up on google. It’s the phenomenon where if there aren’t enforced social rules against something that would help everyone to a degree if done the first “honorable” way, but would help a lot of individuals more if done a second way, more and more people will tend to go the second way until the honorable way has broken down into a sorry mess.

    Orthodox Jews maintain their rules on divorce not through the rules of the wider society, but by the sanction of total shunning as required by their religious community for those that violate it.

    The encouragement of lots of sluts by feminism leads girls less enamored by that message to feel they have to compete by slutting out at least to an extent themselves, when they find a guy they really want. The existence of lots of sluts leads many alphas to want to play their seduction games despite knowing in many cases their at least semi ruining her for the beta husband she’ll eventually likely marry. Hey if he doesn’t do it, someone else will. Observing this causes higher betas and betas to want to get in on the action and learn game from PUAs so they can. Despite knowing that other betas are gonna get hurt as per above. The tragedy of the commons.

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  153. on August 17, 2010 at 9:31 pm Stud Dynamite

    Gorbachev:

    I *LIKE* this troll.

    We should get it checked out…

    Well, Gorby trolls are trolls, but what if you yourself are in Vicky-Christina terms more of a Juan Antonio than beta house-bound Doug? I left my relationship for precisely this reason – I don’t want to guard her (and jealousy will seep neediness anyway), I don’t want to be some provider patriarch and as much as care for her, I will always want to fuck around here and there so honestly I can’t ask her not to do the same. Yet I still wouldn’t mind a couple of kids (while still having normal life, not slaving away for five with some mousy church girl without TV =)).
    So is there an answer? Is it our male version of having cake and eating it too? The whole thing strikes are me as secret society vs not rather than just male/female. And frankly I couldn’t care less about problems of beta Dougs, not sure why our host cares so much.

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  154. on August 17, 2010 at 9:42 pm Stud Dynamite

    Dave from Hawaii, this is my problem:

    “I told her hell no, if I see them in my house, I’ll throw ‘em all away.” – it’s controlling and it’s too late if she already wants them. I want one(s) that won’t even want to watch it. Or even better seen it, but if asked “so which character are you?” answer “ew neither one of them”.

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  155. it’s controlling and it’s too late if she already wants them.

    Perhaps I should have been clearer – this acquaintance was offering them to me, to let my wife borrow them…my wife wasn’t even there.

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  156. @dana

    there’s a lot of stuff that’s kicked around this blog. So could you list what things you’ve read here have benefitted your marriage.

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  157. @Doug1

    Now this is my idea of a girl who’s unquestionably a 10. A high ten at that.

    http://vincentignatius.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/7b1c0-amanda_gift.jpg

    As solid as a block of gold 24 feet high and 37 feet on either side.

    Damn.

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  158. on August 17, 2010 at 10:27 pm Stud Dynamite

    Dave from Hawaii, yeah, then sounds about right. Probably got her all hot and bothered too. Should’ve asked her which character she thinks she is, just for shits and giggles.

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  159. @dalrock
    I’m working on a post on Brothers Grimm tales with the help of my wife. She was raised on the real deal, not the Disney version. The difference is huge. Instead of women needing to just “be” to find a good husband, they have to work their asses off and prove they aren’t too proud and are trustworthy. Your final line echoes the moral of the story titled “The Lazy Spinning Woman” about a wife who won’t work hard, and tricks her husband into thinking it is his fault. Aside from the obvious message to young men to be on the lookout for bad behavior, there is clear judgment of the woman at the end. Something we refuse to do in our culture. The final line of the story is:

    But you yourself must admit that she was a disgusting woman.

    And women just don’t see this.

    On the other hand, when a man does the same thing, he’s shamed and insulted.

    It’s that irrational man-hatred and double standard women wear so comfortably.

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  160. on August 17, 2010 at 10:44 pm David Collard

    Yeah, Dave from Hawaii, a little direct action never hurts. During an argument with my wife I made a point of breaking her DVD of “Mamma Mia”, because I had found it offensively matriarchal.

    Another bad set of DVDs is “Law and Order: Special Victims Unit”. This has a strong feminine, if not feminist, sensibility. My wife spent one Xmas Day a few years ago ploughing through a box set of these. Not really optimal.

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  161. Fuck TV.

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  162. @Stud Dynamite
    Well, Gorby trolls are trolls, but what if you yourself are in Vicky-Christina terms more of a Juan Antonio than beta house-bound Doug? I left my relationship for precisely this reason – I don’t want to guard her (and jealousy will seep neediness anyway), I don’t want to be some provider patriarch and as much as care for her, I will always want to fuck around here and there so honestly I can’t ask her not to do the same. Yet I still wouldn’t mind a couple of kids (while still having normal life, not slaving away for five with some mousy church girl without TV =)).
    So is there an answer? Is it our male version of having cake and eating it too? The whole thing strikes are me as secret society vs not rather than just male/female. And frankly I couldn’t care less about problems of beta Dougs, not sure why our host cares so much.

    We’re all just looking for the right one, right? Possibly, ones.

    There’ll come a time when you like a girl enough to plop out a kid or two; breed. And then start things like family camping trips and the whole dream of sport fucking your way through a cheerleading team will start to seem like a distant memory or a childish wish.

    On the other hand, you can put this off pretty damned long.

    As for the problems of beta dougs, they’re our problems too. They always are. Ultimately.

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  163. Thursday–

    Mormons aren’t even monotheists.

    Really?! Interesting.

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  164. @jon123

    Jon, my new favorite Trollio,

    @ Gorbachev I assume that with your macho Russian name you are trapped in unrealistic expectations of masculinity and wanting to “own” a woman. In the more enlightened world we have come to abandon pretense to outmoded definitions of masculinity that entrap both men and women in a spiral of false consciousness.

    Wow, Jonny, I could have put those words in your mouth. There’s a special kind of genius in there. Outmoded – Masculinity- False Consciousness – I love it.

    And delivered with panache, to boot, and just a dash of Sassiness!

    When I kiss her after one of her all-night fuck sessions and she is glowing I know she is happy!

    I’m absolutely sure she is. I’ll give you that.

    And yes I have called her one-night stand on the phone to thank him for making her happy, she told me to do it but I also meant it! He was just a jock from her gym though and doesn’t understand the special relationship we have!

    You’re exactly the kind of man I like. Wait, exactly the kind of man whose girlfriends I like.

    They’re Grrrreat!

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  165. [i]Fuck TV.[/i]

    I agree…

    …except for the NFL. And the UFC.

    Hell, if we have to live in the age of a declining civilization, we can at least enjoy the Bread and Circuses…

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  166. @Doug1

    Child custody arrangements are typically not permitted in a pre-nup, and can render one unenforceable and lead to it being thrown out by a judge.

    One must be very careful about what goes in being legal, and make sure that both parties were adequately informed prior to signing it (usually this means lawyers for each, paid for individually, and a reasonable amount of time to evaluate the document).

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  167. on August 17, 2010 at 11:07 pm David Collard

    jon123

    Have you ever wondered what your girlfriend and her latest lover say about you, behind your back?

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  168. Dougs favorite 10grrl

    I made my living, for awhile by buibiages. there has beeb bsoj-ke clb reeIt was mostly for good causes; to make better pictures of small human bodies,

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  169. Wealth earned during the marriage should be divided pro rata according to who earned it

    Well, that would certainly swing the balance of power back towards advantage for men. But would it also disincentivize the female role as geisha?

    I know it’s a near lost art to be a housewife in the west. But women take on that role out of personal benefit. You’d want to put some sort of value on it, in a divorce.

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  170. I’d just like to emphasise that Game is necessary but not enough by itself for a successful marriage. No matter how alpha you are, there will always be someone more alpha than you that can attract her attention. There’re other qualities she needs to have: various indications of loyalty as outlined by the commentariat.

    Terrifying story of woman killing her man over him dragging out divorce:

    The Mirror

    And one element of why its so terrifying is the way the media covered it… with implicit sympathy for the woman.

    Timitz, Thursday, Laura:
    My understanding of Christianity is that essentially divorce isn’t Christian and indeed forbidden regardless of what your spouse did, which was true until Henry VIII but did not become very common until changes in the 19th century. As far as I know, Catholics still officially forbid divorce completely modernly.

    You could not lose your spouse until death did literally you part, which was perhaps easier considering that some crimes carried the death penalty. Did that include adultery?

    In any case, does this translate effectively into a tolerance of your partner’s extramarital activity?

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  171. great the way u conflate the divorce issue with hyperinflation. the reason the unemployment rate has been what it is is at least partially because of disinflation. the fed has been too conservative.

    but what that has to do with divorce laws beats me.

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  172. @Doug1
    This will never work because of the phenomenon know as “the tragedy of the commons”. If you don’t know what that means consider your self education seriously lacking if you don’t look it up on google.

    I think what you are talking about is more in the line of an unenforced cartel (economic game theory). Either way, it really doesn’t apply in this case though because those avoiding marrying divorcees aren’t depriving themselves of something valuable. This is the whole point. It is in their best interest to do this. Sure the lesser Betas and Omegas will cave and marry them, but the message is still sent.

    What did you think of my follow on post, where I suggested men refuse to attend weddings where the bride had previously divorced. That one would take some stones, and weak kneed betas would probably cave. I’ve already talked this over with my own wife and she is on board. Think about the shitstorm making this statement would cause and you will get a sense of the power of it. The vast majority of divorcees are drama whores who need validation. Lets deprive them of it.

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  173. oh thats right. ideology is a gift basket of received wisdom for those who cant think for themselves.

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  174. Roissy, this may be the finest thing you’ve ever written.

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  175. As much as women are cunts for their tactics in marriage, the moron guys who actually get married are equally to blame. I would never in a million years get married to any girl no matter how hot she was.

    Girls have a very short window in their lives to be hot. That window is literally less than 5 years. From the time they are legal at 18 through the time they graduate college at 22 is when they are going to be hot as hell. Nobody would even think of getting married at that young of an age.

    With most first marriages occurring in their late 20’s, girls are already going full speed ahead on their downward slide to being so physically irrelevant to guys, they might as well join a convent.

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  176. For Thursday should he see this,

    Im aware that a PUA would have to do some faking to go to church and snare a church girl. However if he wanted to marry a woman who really believed that marriage was to be for life and he had experienced his fill of fornication out there “in the world”, its something he could do. I also think a PUA wouldn’t be remiss hitting up various Christian dating websites in the quest for a potentially faithful wife also, only after he had his fill of fooling around with barfly girls.

    Thursday,
    Our laws make settling down with a girl who has ‘been around’ so risky for a guy. I mean he literally can be making himself a financial pseudo-slave to a woman for 22 years on pain of incarceration to the state.

    For the Chateau should he have insomnia tonight,

    That second option you posted is indeed interesting. I wish sociologists and politicians could better understand the practice of a “control group”, which in this case would be a whole country. Lets say we try polygamy in Estonia or Chile or South Korea. We could check back in 50 years and see what turned out. Maybe it would work out better than expected, or not. There would only be one way to find out.

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  177. @jon123:

    Gay.

    There. Fixed that for you.

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  178. @ Jon 123 – I was just reciting the typical cuckold script. How do you know who the men are?

    @Doug – Do you have a better pic? It’s just to photoshopped.

    I didn’t realize so many men wanted custody of their kids post divorce.

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  179. @ Gorbachev, You must become more sensitive, more understanding. Girls will appreciate if you do the same for them that I do.

    @doug no I don’t sleep around on her, she doesn’t allow that and she needs to know I’m there for her, for emotional support, to buy her shoes and other stuff and to take her out on nice dinner dates.

    @ David Collard, As I said they’re meatheads and emotionally immature no doubt they say some things that they want to be hurtful and maybe she goes along because when she’s with them because of the hot deep-dicking they give her but in the end she will come to me I’m the mature, responsible choice. And when she is with me I ask her not to call me “a faggot” or “little boy,” that’s disrespectful. She usually understands.

    @whiskey, I reject your homophobic language but am not gay, I represent an alternative and more understanding, compassionate masculinity. You are trapped in a false consciousness and you are oppressed by categories of “masculinity” that were drilled into you and that prevent you becoming a full human being. You’re a sexist weirdo.

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  180. jon123 aka queer boy, u should just get castrated already.

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  181. Dalrock

    The vast majority of divorcees are drama whores who need validation. Lets deprive them of it.

    You misspelled wives. What else is a marriage but a staged community drama to give validation?

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  182. John, who knows, maybe john123 is a eunuch already, or there does not seem to be anything to castrate out.

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  183. @jon123

    Jon,

    I think you’re easily the greatest contributor to the blogosphere. Welcome! And Welcome again!

    Whoever you may be, your particular choice brand of suicide medicine, while sarcastic and deliciously amusing in the Trolls Invigorate Life sense, is unlikely to find any eager purchasers here. I’m sorry. But there are a few places where your well-meaning splooge will be eagerly sought after!

    Though you do add to the general sense of the menagerie we have going. Variety is, indeed, the spice of life.

    @ Gorbachev, You must become more sensitive, more understanding. Girls will appreciate if you do the same for them that I do.

    Dude, they do appreciate it. Apparently, me and my friends have been helping you out for some time now. The girl is really appreciative; also delicious.

    Now go out and get me some beer. Stop calling your woman, too. It annoys us when we’re making snide comments about you.

    @doug no I don’t sleep around on her, she doesn’t allow that and she needs to know I’m there for her, for emotional support, to buy her shoes and other stuff and to take her out on nice dinner dates.

    You’re really good to her. A model for New Men everywhere.

    @ David Collard, As I said they’re meatheads and emotionally immature no doubt they say some things that they want to be hurtful and maybe she goes along because when she’s with them because of the hot deep-dicking they give her but in the end she will come to me I’m the mature, responsible choice. And when she is with me I ask her not to call me “a faggot” or “little boy,” that’s disrespectful. She usually understands.

    And you’re even more of a gentleman for forgiving her when she has her little slip ups.

    @whiskey, I reject your homophobic language but am not gay, I represent an alternative and more understanding, compassionate masculinity. You are trapped in a false consciousness and you are oppressed by categories of “masculinity” that were drilled into you and that prevent you becoming a full human being. You’re a sexist weirdo.

    If only all other men were like you, the world could be so much better. Especially for me.

    We all admire your strength of character.

    Please clarify for us, though, how your hot GF finds her men. And what happens if, perchance, she become pregnant by one?

    I shudder to think of the ramifications. Help me out.

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  184. Jon123 does appear to be a wonderful literary mechanism.

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  185. @sam
    From the time they are legal at 18 through the time they graduate college at 22 is when they are going to be hot as hell. Nobody would even think of getting married at that young of an age.

    Except my wife. Good thing we didn’t serve alcohol at our wedding. My wife wasn’t old enough to drink.

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  186. @xsplat
    You misspelled wives.
    Either that, or you misspelled women. But we have to draw the line somewhere. I’m not looking to end marriage as an institution, but to strengthen it.

    What else is a marriage but a staged community drama to give validation?

    Yes, this is my point exactly.

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  187. Ben Elazar–

    As a more secular member of The Tribe, I appreciate your comments and participation. As the American Jewish population dwindles, the Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox will comprise an ever larger share of our population. Consider, for example, the difference between Yitta Schwartz

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/21/nyregion/21yitta.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=yitta%20schwartz&st=cse

    and the sterile Elena Kagan.

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  188. Tell Steven Spielberg about “iron-clad prenuptual agreements.” He’ll laugh his ass off. Spielberg had a pre-nup with Amy Irving. She tore him a new one in the divorce.

    Pre-nups aren’t worth the paper they’re written on.

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  189. Ooops. That last one was me.

    Chateau, been following you for three years and haven’t been disappointed yet.

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  190. on August 18, 2010 at 2:05 am David Collard

    jon123

    I think you are joking. You have been reading too many cuckold stories.

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  191. @Gorbachev,
    She finds her “studs” as she calls them at times, “sex toys” as she calls them at others (“Don’t worry honey, they’re just sex objects, my boytoys; they give me the hot fucking, but you’re my special boyfriend, you are THERE for me and that’s what counts”) at the gym, on the beach when I take her on expensive vacations to Cancun or other resorts, at bars when we go out, or in her broader social circle. It doesn’t matter because I am not defined by Neanderthal notions of masculinity and possessiveness! She is becoming empowered and as her boyfriend I have to make sure she is happy, no? This is also a way for her to know I am secure in my masculinity and trust her. It sounds like you don’t believe in relationships based on trust. Or that you are insecure!

    If she becomes pregnant, what are you implying? That I should leave her in a moment when she’s vulnerable and possibly suffering, when she needs support from me more than ever? Would that be, as I keep saying, the MATURE, RESPONSIBLE thing to do? No. I will faithfully stay with her seeing her through the tough times of pregnancy and motherhood. I will gladly and even with a sense of erotic devotion to her raise her jock stud’s baby and babysit, buy diapers, and so on, allowing her of course the occasional opportunity to enjoy a night out with her girlfriends, having fun, feeling empowered, and yes, sportfucking the so-called “alphas” and muscular “studs” she seems to like. It’s only for sex. What she has with me is much more real and I will not be intimidated by your Neanderthal notions of “masculinity.” She is my girlfriend and I want her to be happy.

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  192. I hear you all and I can sympathize. It appears that you have been hurt tremendously. I understand that it is unfair and unjust. It appears you have had experiences with extremely narcissistic women. It tells me perhaps you have given a lot and felt taken for granted and is fueled with resentment and mistrust. I get it.

    I’m not here to change your minds. It almost seems futile for me to explain why some women do what they do, for everyone have their own history, upbringing, experiences that influence them to be who they are and therefore what they do. I can’t begin to assume what I really don’t know. Actually I could assume, but I rather not.

    All I can say is that your disillusionment and resentment of what has happened is lending the very individual/s who has hurt you more power than he/she deserves.

    You’ve got to let go of the pain and hurt.

    I believe we are like magnets. We will draw towards us, be it person, situation, events….. what we internally believe, therefore creating and confirming our impressions of the reality we’ve created. I am certain there will be a time when each one of our internal believes will be challenged hopefully influencing us to be more tolerant and flexible in our believes….. I hope.

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  193. on August 18, 2010 at 2:07 am David Collard

    Now I know you are not for real, jon 123. That is straight out of a cuckold fantasy. “Raise the bastard child as my own”! That is from a cuckold story you read.

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  194. @Jon123

    @Gorbachev,
    It doesn’t matter because I am not defined by Neanderthal notions of masculinity and possessiveness!

    I applaud your mastery of what it takes to be a New Man! You are a shining symbol of your race.

    She is becoming empowered and as her boyfriend I have to make sure she is happy, no? This is also a way for her to know I am secure in my masculinity and trust her. It sounds like you don’t believe in relationships based on trust. Or that you are insecure!

    You’re right. A secure man, a man happy in his masculinity, has no fear of women and, even when in reasonable proximity of the heady, liquid scent of burgeoning, enrapturing female sensuality, feels his purpose fulfilled and knows that He Has Done Right!

    How true, you speak to me.

    If she becomes pregnant, what are you implying? That I should leave her in a moment when she’s vulnerable and possibly suffering, when she needs support from me more than ever? Would that be, as I keep saying, the MATURE, RESPONSIBLE thing to do? No. I will faithfully stay with her seeing her through the tough times of pregnancy and motherhood. I will gladly and even with a sense of erotic devotion to her raise her jock stud’s baby and babysit, buy diapers, and so on, allowing her of course the occasional opportunity to enjoy a night out with her girlfriends, having fun, feeling empowered, and yes, sportfucking the so-called “alphas” and muscular “studs” she seems to like. It’s only for sex. What she has with me is much more real and I will not be intimidated by your Neanderthal notions of “masculinity.” She is my girlfriend and I want her to be happy.

    And you’ve introduced us all to the true nature of what it is to be a Real Man, a New Man.

    Sir, hats off to you!

    See all comments on this post here.

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  195. on August 18, 2010 at 2:25 am David Collard

    Gorbachev

    jon123 is not for real. He is getting off on a fantasy.

    I mean, he takes her out to dinner and to buy shoes!

    Come on…

    Next he will be telling us about how he buys her lingerie to wear when the ‘studs’ fuck her.

    It’s all fantasy.

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  196. @David Collard

    Gorbachev

    jon123 is recounting a fantasy, of course.

    The next thing he will tell us is that he takes his girlfriend out to buy sexy lingerie to wear when her “studs” fuck her.

    It’s standard cuckold crap.

    It’s true. But it’s also handy. Shows how bizarre and unreal feminist fantasies really are.

    The only males they’re going to get to have sympathy for their worldview and choices are, ultimately, freak males.

    Such individuals are immensely useful, even when they’re invented online.

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  197. on August 18, 2010 at 2:45 am David Collard

    Gorbachev

    I have read quite a few cuckold stories, and jon123 was clearly following a script. I think there are a few actual men like that, and they will find a role in society no doubt. There is also a small community of “female-led” husbands who revel in being the “bitch” in the relationship. Some of them blog, but they seem to disappear fairly regularly. I suspect their wives eventually get too disgusted to cope with their supplicatory crap any more. There was one who sounded genuine, married to a high-powered female lawyer, but even he disappeared eventually. Female domination is unnatural and usually fails eventually.

    A woman married or in an LTR with a cuckolded man will eventually follow her hormones and leave him for the “alpha”.

    If I thought jon123 were real, I would mock him. But I think he is only enjoying a fantasy, and mocking him would probably turn him on …

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  198. z:
    That second option you posted is indeed interesting. I wish sociologists and politicians could better understand the practice of a “control group”, which in this case would be a whole country. Lets say we try polygamy in Estonia or Chile or South Korea. We could check back in 50 years and see what turned out. Maybe it would work out better than expected, or not. There would only be one way to find out.

    I wish web posters could better understand the practice of a “control group”, in which a control group is actually supposed to resemble the target group.
    Because, you know, Chile, Estonia, and South Korea are … wait for it …
    not like America.

    Oh, and, the “control group” is actually the group that doesn’t receive the treatment.

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  199. z :

    That second option you posted is indeed interesting. I wish sociologists and politicians could better understand the practice of a “control group”, which in this case would be a whole country. Lets say we try polygamy in Estonia or Chile or South Korea. We could check back in 50 years and see what turned out. Maybe it would work out better than expected, or not. There would only be one way to find out.

    I wish web posters could better understand the practice of a “control group”, in which a control group is actually supposed to resemble the target group.
    Because, you know, Chile, Estonia, and South Korea are … wait for it … not like America. Extrapolate at your own risk.

    Oh, and, the “control group” is actually the group that doesn’t receive the treatment.

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  200. Perhaps the best pre-nup is a pre-dug shallow grave out in the middle of nowhere , a shovel and a bag of lime.

    It pays to plan ahead.

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  201. The Jon123 posts are brilliant. I assume they are Roissy himself or another regular who “gets it” regarding how men who support feminism ultimately think.

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  202. Better idea on child custody: He (common gender) who pays gets the kids, if he wants them. If he doesn’t want to have to take care of them, and only visit occasionally, then and only then does he pay child support. If both parents want the children, then split custody and each pays for the time they have them.

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  203. The last few posts have confused a man’s earning power for his alpha status. A woman can easily earn more than you and still be a slave to your mind and dick.

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  204. @Kaikou

    Ok I have a question:

    I am young in college and not riding the cock carousel whatev.
    I have long had no desire to marry, my mind would change for the right guy of course but marriage and kids just aren’t really goals of mine.
    That being said all of the talk on this blog has me worried. I don’t want to be 40 and then start wishing for a family/marriage. What is the best route?
    Should I just leave it open to chance and hope I am one of the lucky ones not consumed with alpha/beta/game/hypergamy whatev?
    I get a lot of interest from older men (some already married) what do I do with that? Stick it in my pipe and smoke it?

    Of course I know that I want a garden midday wedding if applicable, so I am not completely lost.
    Also I don’t want a beta provider, I can provide for myself(no kids), so what should I be looking for in a partner?

    Your choices are limited if you say you don’t want a beta, since betas are 90% of the population, and unless you’ve worked your way through college as a Victoria’s Secret model, you probably won’t get a wealthy, handsome, commanding alpha to marry you. Even if you do get an alpha to marry you, he’s going to trade you in once you get older and your breasts start to sag.

    Now, if what you want to do is somebody who will love you, be a good father to your kids, stay with you in the bad times as well as the good times, and be happy to grow old with you, well that’s EASY. All you have to do is be open to the guys who are interested in you as a potential marriage partner (as opposed to an Alpha’s part-time fuck buddy) and decide you will work at being a good wife to him.

    The current system is a trap for young women. You will spend your 20’s chasing Alphas who will happily pump you and dump you, and then your 30’s chasing after a dwindling supply of acceptable men, who by that age are bitter over having been screwed over in their last divorce, or bitter over having been rejected by women like you in their 20s. Good luck with that.

    You want to be happily married? Locate a good guy now, in your early 20’s, before the supply is depleted. Be open to considering guys who are older, as well

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  205. on August 18, 2010 at 8:26 am Biological Anthropologist

    Dr. Fisher is either misinformed or drowning in wishful thinking. There is no evidence that women have ever been as powerful as men. In a survey of 100 societies in various states of development, men held all political power in over 80% of them and over 80% of political power in all of them. No one has ever actually found a matriarchal society.

    We are not simply a patriarchal society–we are a patriarchal species. So are our ape cousins. We all live in male-bonded territorial patriarchies, and the main ”environmental threat” against which a woman needs a strong man is the threat of violence from other men.

    Trying to enforce an artificial equality on ourselves is unwise, and it does not lead to greater happiness for men or for women. For those of us who care about the wellbeing of womankind, the search for a realistic solution must start with acceptance of who we fundamentally are.

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  206. Child custody is fairer to men in the most feminist countries aka Sweden. Joint physical custody is the norm and child support uncommon.

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  207. @dana
    re “the echo chamber of fags and women who lie to her constantly” (GREAT phrase, BTW!)

    I’m an older guy, happily married close to 30 years who hangs out here for the camaraderie rather than pickup tips. One thing I have observed about women in general, is the quickest way to have the average woman decide she doesn’t want to talk to you any more, is to tell her something she really doesn’t want to hear. (Note I said “average”, there are exceptions).

    This means that, over time, she self-selects her circle of friends to exclude anybody who is not “supportive” (ie, anybody who tells her the truth). As her friends do likewise, she winds up with a circle of friends who all lie to each other about how wonderful they are. This results in a greatly inflated idea of self worth, which results in the dumping of the “boring” beta to chase after alpha cock. Since an alpha by definition is somebody who can have his pick of women, the women get very disappointed in their bad-boy’s lack of commitment. But why should he commit, when he has his pick, and can dump the current girl for a fresher model frequently?

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  208. We are not simply a patriarchal society–we are a patriarchal species.

    I agree. That’s why “feminism” in practice is not so much rule by women, but rule of elite men over all other men, by proxy of well-positioned women.

    Real feminism is a lesbian liberation movement, a very narrow and niche interest, though co-opted in part by the ruling class toward their own ends.

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  209. LOL!
    That jon123 is definatly trolling. He’s hitting every cliche out there except maybe the “black stud” one.

    Oh and here’s a blog about a female led marriage where the guy is busy celebrating the coming to power of women:

    http://subservient-husband.blogspot.com/2010/06/coming-matriarchy.html

    If anyone is brave enough to wander over to those shark infested waters, please don’t throw up too much.

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  210. on August 18, 2010 at 9:12 am gunslingergregi

    A dominant lef female relationship is where you make 25k in a weekend and still worry about the cable bill.
    lol
    It doesn’t work.
    Woman need a man to guide there effort into something more meaningful than just themselves.

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  211. Do not feed the troll, Jon123.

    Judging from the writing, it’s the literary creation of a witty woman.

    He should only be acknowledged if he can be consistently as funny as GBFM.

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  212. MichaelC,

    That’s a good point – women don’t ask their friends to be brutally honest, as a rule.

    Another example of how shallow their friendships can be, for all their alleged “emotional depth”.

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  213. And of course those weasels at Google have a little graphic at the bottom saying:

    “Celebrating 90 years since the ratification of the 19th Amendment, guaranteeing women the right to vote ”

    So how’s that worked so far?

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  214. on August 18, 2010 at 9:39 am gunslingergregi

    I should say more meaningfull than churning money.

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  215. “Child custody is fairer to men in the most feminist countries aka Sweden. Joint physical custody is the norm and child support uncommon.”

    I only take the exception with the implication that there are men in sweden.

    The end of men as lp 999 wrote of, wouldn’t necessarily require the extermination of males.

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  216. cap’n bob
    Do not feed the troll, Jon123.

    Judging from the writing, it’s the literary creation of a witty woman.

    He should only be acknowledged if he can be consistently as funny as GBFM.

    cap, the writing voice sounded female to my ear to.
    for whats its worth ( i know theyre not real accurate), theses two gender analyser programs also think jon is real joan lol

    http://www.hackerfactor.com/GenderGuesser.php#Analyze
    http://www.bookblog.net/gender/genie.php

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  217. on August 18, 2010 at 10:06 am gunslingergregi

    You did a nice job of setting him straight though clarence with realities of what woman in the west actually produce vs men.

    Course it is also true as a reality that woman can produce wealth.

    From what I have seen though even high earning woman need a man to be dominant or they don’t know how to grow out of just churning money.

    For instance a friend of my family got breast cancer and not working for a few months was a huge big deal even thought they made like 500k a year because it was a female dominant relationship. They had no idea how not to be slaves.

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  218. on August 18, 2010 at 10:11 am gunslingergregi

    Or put it this way the bitches in my family line are as dominant as they come but they still need a dominant man in their lives to really beat life.

    The teammate you pick is important as fuck.

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  219. I don’t think jon123 is a male. If he is not, SHE is brilliant……got you all going!! lol!!

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  220. Jamesjjj,

    Those programs are pretty useful for analysing comments.

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  221. on August 18, 2010 at 11:08 am gunslingergregi

    Don’t do it pupu lol

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  222. on August 18, 2010 at 11:43 am Trying to Understand

    Part of the problem is that women seem to change with age to a much greater extent than men do. I’m not talking about looks, but about personality. It seems that hormone changes, especially oxytocin, reduce a woman’s emotional range and make her feel less need for bonding with a man, possibly less need for emotional bonding in general. Hence “no value-added.”

    Women as they get older often lose the particular interests and enthusiasms that attracted their husbands to them in the first place and become much more generic.

    Sad stuff that I don’t want to believe but seems to be true.

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  223. Z

    That second option you posted is indeed interesting. I wish sociologists and politicians could better understand the practice of a “control group”, which in this case would be a whole country. Lets say we try polygamy in Estonia or Chile or South Korea. We could check back in 50 years and see what turned out. Maybe it would work out better than expected, or not. There would only be one way to find out.

    Looking at the already existing control group countries (Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan), it does not work well. It produces winners (men wealthy enough to afford multiple wives) and losers (men who never get laid and become suicide bombers).

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  224. Also I don’t want a beta provider, I can provide for myself(no kids), so what should I be looking for in a partner?

    Can you alone also provide for yourself and your baby when your child is a baby crying all night and severely disrupting your sleep schedule for months on end? Or when your child is a few years old at most and suffering from ear infections etc. contracted at kindergarten, crying all night, of course? Are you sure you want to have a baby with a man who won’t have any part of the above and thus fall into a provider role of one kind or another? If you have no relatives or very close friends able or willing to help you a lot in childcare, you will be in deep shit if you choose the wrong kind of man to have children with. What about keeping an unruly teenager out of trouble all by yourself? Can you do that if you’re the only adult in the family with all the responsibilities of the breadwinner on your shoulders alone? By the time your children are teenagers, your own parents will be old and more or less frail. If you’re not really hot yourself (unlikely), you can forget about forming a stable family with an alpha male.

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  225. on August 18, 2010 at 12:14 pm Professor Woland

    I think a lot of women will temporaraily lower themselves to marry / mate with a beta (assuming there is nothing better availible) if they feel they can can have the upper hand in the relationship. Rather than try and enhance their partners status and help them advance up the domenance heirarchy, a lot of women take a very demeaning attitude towards their mates as a way of trying to display their status, both to their mates and to their social network. This translates into the treatment of “I will treat you a little less like scum if you do what I want.” The problem with time is that is does not work to the woman’s advantage. At some point even the most beta guy gains in relationship to his partner in the sexual market (unless he is a total loser). At some point these women are bailing because they can no longer leverage their sexuality in their intimate relationships to get them the low hanging fruit. Better to take the money and run.

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  226. “This is an excellent Public Service Announcement. Husbands, you’d be wise to monitor your wives’ social circles and act to limit her time spent with cat collecting, unmarried harridans. They will whisper poison thoughts into your wives’ brains.”

    I can attest to this. I married a Latin American woman. And it took American women a long time, but they turned her into one of them.

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  227. @Kaikou,
    What you want is a smart beta, who can easily be trained to add alpha characteristics through this website and others. That’s the cool thing about alpha, it can be learned. That’s the whole premise of game.

    So start with someone who is good at heart and means well, and make a man of him. That has been the good woman’s role since time immemorial. After all, most betas are actively suppressing their natural alpha characteristics and just have to be taught to act naturally. It’s not an act, it’s the real deal but their momma told them to “be nice”.

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  228. Good Advice, gave good advice

    Brevity is the soul of wit

    no
    shit

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  229. LOL no wonder everyone thinks i’m a guy

    one of my blog entries scored this on the gender genie link:

    Words: 606

    (NOTE: The genie works best on texts of more than 500 words.)

    Female Score: 360
    Male Score: 1169

    The Gender Genie thinks the author of this passage is: male!

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  230. on August 18, 2010 at 12:35 pm Gunslingergregi

    ”””Firepower
    Good Advice, gave good advice

    Brevity is the soul of wit

    no
    shit
    ”””’

    Why I take all my non brevity out here he he he

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  231. on August 18, 2010 at 12:40 pm Gunslingergregi

    ”””””””on August 18, 2010 at 11:45 am MichaelC
    Z

    That second option you posted is indeed interesting. I wish sociologists and politicians could better understand the practice of a “control group”, which in this case would be a whole country. Lets say we try polygamy in Estonia or Chile or South Korea. We could check back in 50 years and see what turned out. Maybe it would work out better than expected, or not. There would only be one way to find out.

    Looking at the already existing control group countries (Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan), it does not work well. It produces winners (men wealthy enough to afford multiple wives) and losers (men who never get laid and become suicide bombers).

    ””””””””’
    Lets be a little smarter than that count up the entire crop of suicide bombers and then count the murder suicides in the us which one is bigger?

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  232. jon123

    why don’t you just remove the intermediary woman from licking another man’s dick?

    and that gender genie sucks.

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  233. @Biological Anthropologist

    Up until very recently, most women flat-out did not have a choice about being married to some guy. If you were a woman and did not have a man to protect you and take care of you, you lived an unpleasant and potentially short life.

    Given the pathologies that appear when women are freed of this constraint (look at any inner city neighborhood), it’s not surprising that non-male-dominated societies did not last long.

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  234. @Woland

    Where’s Behemoth and Margarita these days?

    You made a critical point just now:

    Divorce comes when a woman can no longer manipulate her Beta via sex.

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  235. on August 18, 2010 at 1:12 pm Blessent mon coeur

    “One divorced mother of two sons put her complaint succinctly: “I realized my husband was of no added value.”

    “To get the full chill of that statement, try imagining a husband who had divorced his wife saying it, or this next one.”

    No, to get the full chill, try imagining into the future, after the hyperinflation destroys the dollar, after her savings are gone, after her employability has dissolved, after social security and medicaid and a whole raft of other Federal government promises have gone with the wind, and sons saying, “We realized our mom was of no added value.”

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  236. on August 18, 2010 at 1:27 pm Non-PC Comment

    Its sad that the famous plastic surgeon in Beverly Hills died yesterday while sending a tweet about his dog that had climbed with him on a sand dune in Malibu a few minutes before. Do NOT tweet and drive guys. He could have killed others besides himself.

    But look at the People Magazine article from his inter-racial and possibly politically correct (in his mind) lover: she’d be a solid 4 on a good day. I’ve seen black 10s but she’s a 4.

    Would women here want him to give them plastic surgery when he doesn’t seem to have an aesthetic?

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  237. on August 18, 2010 at 1:35 pm Non-PC Comment

    I’ve seen those cliffs in Malibu on the Pacific Coast Highway. To tweet while driving there would require a death wish. But he had to show his adoring fans how cute his collie looked sitting on top of a sand dune a few miles back when he’d parked and climbed the large dune.

    Note these guys who tweet to “adoring fans” will never pipe up and tell the truth about things like feminism etc.

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  238. Well be careful what you wish for ladies. This woman got back in touch with my wife a few months ago to utilize her services (My wife has a cleaning business on the side) for preparing her home for the market. That’s why I’ve had a front row seat to this sad (kids are involved) but joyous occasion of watching some fool jump into a folly of their own making.

    I thank God every day for my divorced mother-in-law.

    She managed to spend through $1.5 million between the child support, alimony and house she got in the divorce. She now owes more on her house than she did 10 years ago. She re-married some schlub from New Jersey (enough said, there) who’s an out-of-work bipolar. Before that, she went through a series of younger clingers-on who didn’t work and helped her spend her money. She is constantly stressed-out and regrets her new marriage. In fact, you might say her new life is characterized by regret.

    Her reason for divorce: BOREDOM!

    Meanwhile, my father-in-law remarried to a woman 10 years younger and hotter, moved into a much, much larger house based on his corporate profits skyrocketing, and couldn’t be happier.

    All this serves as a visible example to my wife every time she hears from her mother.

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  239. @Non-PC Comment

    She’s 29, and she is 5, not 4 (4 = really homely fat cow, yet not with apparent deformities and decidedly a female), maybe she was 1 or 2 levels up 5 years back (@ 6/6.5). Perhaps that is why she is xgf, no?

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  240. @Jerry

    Divorce comes when a woman can no longer manipulate her Beta via sex.

    That may be a contrib to the boredom factor, though the diminishing of manipulative ability is usually her own doing.

    Her: “You don’t have much sex with me anymore!”
    Him: “DUH! When I have to beg you all the time and you feign a migraine, or some other put off… my interest is not exactly kindled.”

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  241. Marriage is a social construct to keep women from fighting amongst themselves over the good men. The ones who don’t catch the attention of the good men push the lesser men into making the biggest mistake of their lives.

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  242. “Jack; the full power of the state is behind these harpies. You do any of the things you talked about and you are going to have thugs in SWAT gear come and own your ass.

    The best course of action is to refrain from marriage, cohabitation and kids.”

    If you refrain from kids, you don’t reproduce, and your genes die. This is the most naturally beta thing imaginable.

    It doesn’t matter if the state is behind them. If 90% of men who are divorced REFUSE to pay child support, they don’t have enough cops to get everyone. If men warn their wives something bad will happen if they leave them, the worst that will happen is the wife will dump the guy then. Enough grassroots support and the state will be powerless.

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  243. The key line is “her ex has since died”. She killed him. Her betrayal killed him!

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  244. Marrying a female is not what it appears to be these days. A male has effectively married a proxy for the state, males entering the institution of matriarchy is doing exactly that marrying the state and a product of the state. In the Bolshevist model of the soviet union for the communists to succeed they had to re engineer society using perverts, the dysfunctional and worse liberated educated thinking. The good thing of course is in the consumer society the female is the ideal model on which to maximize profiteering, even better as modeled in N. Korea is to test the basest of instincts involving the familial unit. Destruction of the family is an important asset to social re engineering for the state to aggrandize it’s purpose as exemplified by the employment magnification by a factor of six for those who are beholding to the state or judiciary for income and well paid income at that. As all the independent wealth from private individuals is now controlled by the state. As a result of some serious Hegelian dialects, not one inch of any US property is owned by an individual, it is all subject to stamp duties and regulation.

    There are 5 different models of future familial modeling practiced throughout the world. These are all global policy modeled in think tanks, the Chinese where state authority determines family policy. The Western world where infanticide and female independence is practiced but we call it something else and of course the variations as practiced in the Africa and Asia based on medical or war issues. Any and all of these are policies developed some seventy years ago and in various flavors acted out today have purpose. The true demographics of this nation actually reflect some pretty bad outcomes for males and females. Females in particular end up nurturing cats and dogs, mentally wacked out from early ages, barren and worthless after their fertility years, while males have historically always been expendable. Most would not realize the extent of their relativity since their relativity is independent from reality. A treatise by R.J Rummel on state power kills shows some of the inherent dangers of the states intention. With some other interesting factors for those who can think beyond their next egg mcmuffin.

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  245. What about millions of Fathers who are MIA because of the family court system? Political figures often discuss the welfare of our children but never discuss the problems regarding our family court system, unfair visitation laws and how those laws affect fathers who want to be part of their children’s lives.

    There is a Child Support Enforcement agency in every state but not a Visitation/Parenting Time Enforcement Agency. Why?? This needs to be an issue addressed at the federal level and not decided by the states because the system at the state level is not working. Most states call the time Fathers spend with their children as “Visitation” instead of calling it what it is “Parenting time”. Parenting time is a time to be a parent to your child. Visitation is what the family court force on fathers, as they want fathers to become an occasional visitor. Family courts wants fathers to settle for becoming a ‘Disney Dad,’ one whose role is nothing more than outings to theme parks once or twice a month. Why can’t the family courts grant time to fathers in a frequency, duration, and type reasonably calculated to promote a strong and loving relationship between the child and the parent? The standard visitation which is four days a month is not enough time to be an effective parent to your child. The family courts very, very rarely enforce visitation. Here, the prejudice is against fathers and their parental rights. The congress refuses to acknowledge the injustice, cruelty, brutality and inhumanity of denying the love and companionship between a father and their child. Divorce from a spouse is not a divorce from your children, nor should custody decisions be used as a punishment. Joint physical custody can benefit the children, the divorced parents, and society in general by having both parents involved in the child’s upbringing.

    Fathers are systematically eliminated from their children’s lives. Father’s parental rights are systematically terminated by family court judges who have a deep seated gender bias against fathers. Termination of parental rights is both total and irrevocable. Termination of parental rights is the family law equivalent of the death penalty in a criminal case. The primary casualties in our Domestic Relations courts are our children.

    Courts are supposed to approach cases of child custody, support payments, and visitation rights in a gender-neutral posture. It sounds fair, and it is fair. But it is a myth. Judges are not enforcing these gender laws fairly, and few seem to care. Unless you have been forcefully removed from the everyday upbringing of your child by the Court, you can not fathom the emotional distress. To discriminate against fathers because of their gender in this day and age is no different than telling a person to go to the back of the bus because of their skin color. With sole or primary custody going to the mother in roughly 90% of cases, claiming custody is not based on gender would be like claiming hiring is not based on race if 90% of a particular race, though equally qualified, was unable to obtain employment. This was missing from the Obama’s Father’s day speech. What about millions of Fathers who are MIA because of the family court system?

    Anguish is experienced by hundreds of thousands of fathers across the country. Their grievances include: blocked visitation and unenforced visitation orders; “move away” spouses who use geography as a method of driving fathers out of their children’s lives; acceptance by the courts of false and/or uncorroborated accusations as a basis for denying custody or even contact between parent and child; a “win/lose” system which pits ex-spouses against one another by designating a custodial and a noncustodial parent; courts which in determining custody tilt heavily towards the parent who initiates the divorce, thus encouraging each parent to “strike first”; burdensome legal costs; and judicial preference for mothers over fathers as custodial parents.

    The child’s right to equal access and opportunity with both parents, the right to be guided and nurtured by both parents, the right to have major decisions made by the application of both parents’ wisdom, judgment and experience. The child does not forfeit these rights when the parents divorce.

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  246. I should have expected this from a tool created by the food, the limitations of their tiny brains are exposed whenever they try to be clever.

    The post analyzer cannot decide whether I am male or female. The possibility of another sentient species capable of speech and an understanding of their own primitive language, free of their biological bias, was not in the designer’s plans.

    How utterly typical.

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  247. Catholics have always forbidden divorce up to today, but there has long been a really corrupt anullment system to allow the rich and powerful to bypass this prohibition. I don’t know the history of divorce laws in historically Catholic countries, but the Irish only recently allowed divorce.

    Protestants have been theologically willing to allow divorce for sexual infidelity because they accepted only the Bible as an authority and Jesus allows divorce for that reason in Matthew 19:9. However, IIRC, divorce wasn’t always allowed, even for that reason, by the laws of Protestant countries.

    Orthodox have long allowed divorce, even though they consider it sinful. I don’t know what the divorce laws were in Orthodox countries.

    Thursday, thank you.

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  248. To Sarlacc, Whether you wish to keep your gender which I assume is fundamentally a BIPOLAR secret, it would not be entirely unsurprising. However I understand that you being a member of some special elite I know something you don’t know group with underlying conspiratorial undertones. It begs the question while failing to see the significance of any moronic attempt to redefine commercial food. The codex alimentarus is the new post industrial global bible and as all GM crops with derivatives, just enjoy the path to somatized baby goop. Also do keep up the neuro suppressive enhancers. For a real lowdown on sentient, what makes you think you are sentient if you apparently don’t understand natural compassion. The question then becomes do you understand yourself and what you represent before you start the pointy finger game.

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  249. way to get the joke andrew

    you win a silver

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  250. @ Bhetti
    I always enjoy your comments, you remind me of my wife in some ways.

    “I’d just like to emphasise that Game is necessary but not enough by itself for a successful marriage. No matter how alpha you are, there will always be someone more alpha than you that can attract her attention. There’re other qualities she needs to have: various indications of loyalty as outlined by the commentariat.”

    As a married man I can attest to this 110%. Game is what keeps the “romance” and “spark” alive. Some of the other qualities you need are: unity, loyalty, and honest communication. If you want a relationship to last you can’t turn on each other when times get hard, you have to be willing to put the other person ahead of other people, and you have to communicate. Without that God help you, because the divorce courts won’t.

    “My understanding of Christianity is that essentially divorce isn’t Christian and indeed forbidden regardless of what your spouse did, which was true until Henry VIII but did not become very common until changes in the 19th century. As far as I know, Catholics still officially forbid divorce completely modernly.

    You could not lose your spouse until death did literally you part, which was perhaps easier considering that some crimes carried the death penalty. Did that include adultery?

    In any case, does this translate effectively into a tolerance of your partner’s extramarital activity?”

    This is a great question, and actually something that I’m having some interesting discussions and doing some research on (Christianity and polygamy).

    In regards to Christianity and divorce, you are correct. Divorce is forbidden in every instance in the Bible with two exceptions. Jesus allowed for divorce in the case of marital infidelity, and Paul allowed for divorce, if one spouse was Christian and the other was not, and the non-Christian spouse wanted divorce. The no remarrying rule applied. (Remarriage is allowed in the case of spousal death, and mandated in certain cases, as is polygamy.) Adultry was a capital offense with both parties being executed.

    With this said, marital infidelity must be examined. In regards to polygamic marraiges, you are technically not breaking faith with your wife if you marry another woman, then have sex. You are unfaithful if you have sex with a woman you aren’t married to. Adding to the difficulty is the question of whether the two wives are married to each other as well…

    Unfortunately, I have yet to find an answer along these lines yet. Thus my search continues. There are a few things that are clear, however. The first is that, you have to be able to support your spouse or any additional wives you take on. The next is that the New Testament, forbids church leaders to be polygamists, and frowns upon it for everyone else. Actually Paul advocates staying single to allow for better focus on God, with marriage left for those of us who are too horny to not slip into sexual immortality. Further, there are good and bad examples throughout the Old Testament of polygamous marriages. Some didn’t work out so well as in the case of Abraham, and others were more successful (King David). The conclusion, so far, is that the Bible allows polygamy, but frowns on it as frought with risk.

    I did everyone a favor and left off the question of remarraige in the case of widowers/widows and polygamy and how the two are related. I figure if anyone wants to discuss it more in depth, you can tell me.

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  251. @Andrew_ess

    Please try and calm down before attempting to communicate. Language is a high-precision tool that needs the better part of the food’s mental capacity to be utilized properly, and you’re using it to bang open coconuts. emotions that short-circuit these complex processes are well and good when it comes to decide whether to run away from a hungry lion or not, but not when attempting to communicate anything more complex than that.

    Yes, the current issues with what the foods eat do indeed worry me. In the past, most foods were practically organic-grown, with little in the way of foreign chemicals in their bodies. DDT came, and with it the concept of “bioaccumulation,” which I was pleasantly surprised the food managed to grasp to their benefit and, of course, mine. My favourite have always been vegetarians, unlike the sinewy consistency of pure vegans, their higher protein intake gives them a more meaty body without sacrificing the flavour.

    By all means, do avoid GM and modified feeds, and stick to pure, raw alimentary intake. The next Sarlacc you come across will surely thank you as he digests you.

    As far as natural compassion, I understand it quite well, thanks. I understand it well enough to know what part of the limited food’s intellect it stimulates and how to use it to my advantage. It is a curious evolutionary outcome, that’s for sure, and while the downside is that an intellect above the food’s can take advantage of it, it has enough upsides to compensate when it comes to the survival of the species. I don’t believe you have the self-awareness necessary to see this though, but it is only natural given your limited brain size.

    @dana

    I do believe Andrew illustrated better than I could why I sometimes doubt if the food is actually intelligent. The inability to mentally manage a transition between ideas that are not necessarily complex, but merely outside of what it would naturally expect in a certain context, should be perfectly natural for a truly intelligent being. But every time I convince myself the food is in fact capable of this, some food like Andrew will show up.

    I am trying to figure out whether it is because there are two subspecies intermixed in the food’s society, or if there are other factors I am failing to account for.

    One thing is for sure though, in either case the deliciousness of the talking food remains unchanged. *Burp*

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  252. ~Dana, Give it up. We always get sidetracked on issues that are fundamentally important by trollistic interjections. On this issue specific to economics which you appear to have a penchant for, do you really understand the transfer of wealth concept. You appear to understand the concept of allodial rights, not withstanding that not one inch of US soil is owned privately but simply a rent able commodity whether by mortgage or contract subject to the cloth that the new renters perceive themselves to be cut from and the space in their spaceship they are willing to call their domain. The laws and statutes regarding marriage and children comes straight out of bolchevist practices with a slight variance on the legal methodology. The unegalitarian principles of equal citizenship that confers upon all of us the right to liberty and freedom to choose with unalienable rights, and not some Bolshevist Black robed moron under some pretense utilizing the state to garner personal wealth with million dollar retirement scams for pulling in the numbers under state and federal policy, whatever the cost. You speak to issues that have cost this economy fully one third of it’s wealth for the last four decades under CAFR, federal incentives and the conversion of the US to a welfare state and a work at will labor force. Also creating a private state within a state under legal franchise with more than half the nation under it’s control for services, apportioned by the newer laws of excise through children.

    It boggles the mind to think true females in the vast numbers would relinquish the state of private matriarchy which it actually is, even by the residual standards today of it’s power, for some consuming idea of freedom and independence created by some pretty dysfunctional not quite your normal females. Understanding the concept is simple, who leads females today. Mangina’s, why mangina’s, the answer is simple male minds and libido’s in female bodies. I would even extend that to female minds in male bodies with all the empathy and psychology for motherhood. Who do the first aforementioned of these people like making whoopie with ?, females of course. Sex by these people with males is probably as repugnant as having children. They are not psychologically hot wired to think or feel that way, worse they project their world view by assertion, BS and dominance over the common female. Even worse they get billions of dollars each year to spend as they wish with little accountability on the improvement of their female so called worldview.

    Do not get me wrong, if there is one thing I truly respect it is a female who not only respects herself for what she is but more importantly knows what she is and is willing to be a fulfilled human female within herself not some indoctrinated woe is me excuse for a human..

    Marriage was never about the individual in the pairing, it is formed in a matriarchal context for the benefit of it’s local society almost universally. Quite simply the promotion of two competent tried and tested individuals capable of being parents for the purpose of creating the next gen. Not a female or male that suddenly decides that the states new get out clause is a meal ticket because they chose to marry out of feeling in their loins or their partner was as close to a best friend they could find. The test was cultural and community approved promotion to this status, therefore the states modern day equivalent has no meaning within that context.

    Anyone can get married these days, no pedigree required. The issue then becomes what is the purpose of modern day marriages if it is not for the benefit or purpose of children, and certainly by present day output and decisions by legal methods of closure almost lethal to interfamilial relationships for the nurturing of children. I certainly cannot blame the herd for substituting it’s version of freedom for the states version because of the incentives, yet ultimately I ponder the true cost to females in general. But I damn well do not like the output from it and neither will females of the future who will as always end up not with any equality, but far down the totem pole. Basically reduced to baby mills on demand by state order and possibly worse by insemination. If you are rich you could always of course ask an East Indian host to take on that task for you. Wouldn’t want that nice tummy to have wrinkles would we !

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  253. Sarlacc~ The good thing is at least I can communicate on my little tiny cheap poor man’s technological wonder that I purchased with my sweat and tears. I am afraid your taxpayer subsidized lifestyle, technology and state endorsed credibility allowing you to pass such judgmental remarks upon others leaves a little sour note in my palette. Your work product needs a serious review. While it appears in your galaxy far and away we seem to ignore cross contamination to continue consumption. Would it not be logical to opine that your missive it seems to miss the point of the topic. Enjoy lunch or is it brunch today, while I go and carry out my janitorial duties and type at the same time.

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  254. @cap’n bob

    In a happier world, this Eat Pray Love would be on the customs banned list. This shit is as dangerous as plutonium, and a lot more common.

    Not yet banned, but at least they have to include a warning label:

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  255. @Andrew:

    “I am afraid your taxpayer subsidized lifestyle, technology and state endorsed credibility allowing you to pass such judgmental remarks upon others leaves a little sour note in my palette.”

    One of the reasons I doubt the food’s mental capacity is how they absorb information. It never simply absorbs and processes it, the information is always warped with whatever few bits and pieces the food has managed to put together with the few synapses they can afford, and molded to fit that perfectly, whether it applies or not. Like in this case.

    If it were to take a step back and see things for what they are, I’m sure it’d fall on the floor laughing, as several others are no doubt doing at the moment. Such a waste.

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  256. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikah_mut%E2%80%98ah

    Soldiers returning from Iraq may well bring home some of the local customs.

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  257. Sarlacc~ I don’t get you, you purport some avatar in place of the self. Your comments on the subject matter are pointless and worse, you have adopted some monstrosity taken from the annals of Dune in a revised hollywood reincarnation, yet claim original thinking. Give me a break. I do note despite your aloof demeanor that your failing to understand divorce, it’s profiteering and it’s fallout is most likely you are divorced from reality. The process of denaturing the herd also endows it’s product with an interesting worldview. In Bouviers legal maxim, we have ‘The child shall follow the condition of the parent, slave or freeman. The maxims have not changed, neither has nature. Also be aware that humans are highly unlikely to find a home in space or anywhere else for that matter, the probabilities are against it, that is the nature of the beast. On that subject we humans are the only one’s that create monsters and make them real, nature does not.

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  258. @Andrew

    “I don’t get you”

    I believe you. Given your new mental flailing about me, my intentions, knowledge, implied things I never said, and purpose, completely rooted on your own hang-ups and mental blocks, and fundamentally divorced from reality, it is quite clear you just don’t get it. At all.

    In fact, you may find it interesting to know that you’re the first food I come across that completely fails to get it since I set shop on the Internet. I’m not sure if I should congratulate you or turn you into an exhibit.

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  259. […] by Deansdale This article is well-known by now in the manosphere. Dr. Helen discussed it, then Roissy and Hawaiian Libertarian too. Vox Day reflected on Roissy’s […]

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  260. […] women are abusing no-fault divorce to end lifelong marriages because the poor widdle babies are getting bored with their hubbies: A multitude of factors likely contributes to the urge to spousally purge of the modern American […]

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  261. on August 20, 2010 at 6:29 am gunslingergregi

    ””””””Somebody
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikah_mut%E2%80%98ah

    Soldiers returning from Iraq may well bring home some of the local customs.

    ”””””’
    Well now you may understand the diference between sunni and shia sects.

    So that you can understand why proximity plus diversity equals war when two groups are at diferent opinions about sex and can also understand how it was as usual for the us a war about diferent ways of interpreting how you are allowed to live. That is where true hate comes from when someone is living not like you and it works and they are happy. Every war the us has fought has been about instituting its own version of how sex should be parlayed out.

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  262. In my experience, dumb bitter hoes who divorce in their 40s end up losing. They’re old, ugly, way past their expiration date, and alienate their family and kids.

    Men tend to do alright, even if they get taken to the cleaners. A man by himself is contented with the simpler things in life, and now he usually gets a chance to do everything he wants that he never “could” while married. I’ve seen a lot of middle-aged men become unshackled from their wrinkling wives and really fucking take flight. Yeah, you lose money, but you can always make more of it. In this recession, a lot of people are really not giving a shit about money and living it up on the cheap. Odds are the country’s going to collapse before anyone thought it was, why worry?

    On another serious note, I was unwillingly stuck in family court during my 1L year internship, so I’ve seen it all. Long story short, family law is among the simplest areas of all law. Anyone who needs a lawyer to navigate that is an idiot, because they will rob you blind and do half-assed work that you yourself can do. Family court judges understand that most people are pro-se and don’t understand shit, and the level of informality and accommodation they give to clueless pro se parties is unreal.

    Secondly, pre-nups never work. A pre-nup cannot contradict what the law of the land says, which almost everywhere is that marital assets get split 50-50. I don’t care what your prenup says, anything you earned, bought, or whatever during the marriage is getting split. The best a pre-nup can do is set the level at 50/50, and not 60/40 if your wife guns for more. That’s IF it’s not thrown out. If you are a zillionaire before getting married, go ahead and get one to try and protect your pre-marital assets. Most people have negative net worth before and even during marriage, so they end up squabbling over peanuts (and paying lawyers to do it).

    What else…oh yeah, the alpha asshole who tears up his court summons, skips town, and never answers his phone always wins. The worst they can do is attempt to garnish your wages, which is tough to do (if you don’t work for the government), and if you’re non-cooperative is even harder. I can’t tell you how many sobbing ex-wives I’ve seen in court who are down to their last dime because their husband just disappeared to parts unknown. They’ll never catch the bastard, the worst the judge can do is enter default against him and try and call his phone from the courtroom. Is a broke, at-her-rope’s-end ex-wife really going to spend more time, lawyer money, and desperation trying to track him down? 95/100 times, no.

    All the while, if the bastard is smart, he’s been offshoring his assets, shuffling paper, and making it practically impossible for her to get anything. I’ve probably seen more guys walk than get screwed, in that they just fly the coop and leave the incompetent, overworked local trial court and fat, polyester-clad shitlawyers to do nothing but file more motion papers and keep billing his ex-wife.

    Yeah, if you two own a house in your joint names, have all joint bank accounts, and you leave all your financial information laying around, and she knows everything about you and can track every cent you own, you’re in trouble. Who but a hopeless beta faggot would do that, anyway?

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  263. on August 20, 2010 at 5:53 pm Ed the Department Head

    Here are my thoughts (for the little it is worth) about how and Option 2 could work:

    The states would no longer recognize any system of marriage. Henceforth, no one would have any financial obligation to a sexual partner of any sort. Choosing a sexual relationship would no longer carry status based financial possibilities. If a woman chooses not to work after “marriage” she is to be treated by society the same as a man who cannot or will not work for 7 or 10 years. She makes the choice and society does not pay her compensation in the event that this choice doesn’t work in the long term.
    Each state could have a state bureau of wills and estates and could have everyone 21 and older required (in the fashion of automoble insurance requirements) to have a thorough will in the event of death. Women who want to adopt the last name of their “husband” (or men or whatever who want to adopt it) could go to a bureau of records and do it. Prevention of adultery and other “marriage” problems would not be the bussiness of the state. Trying to punish a partner for infidelity via non-existent divorce courts would be like calling the police because Burger King couldn’t get your order right (this happened, check Youtube, LOL).
    With the birth of a child, by law the man the woman is claiming as the father needs to be automatically DNA tested for confirmation. Once he is confirmed, both partners have financial obligations to their child till aforementioned child is 18. All property bought by the couple needs to be treated like a finanical partnership on paper and nothing more. In the event of a “divorce” both partners only get what was theirs before the “union” and only what is specified in their quinsidential financial partnership that coincided with their “marriage.” A child is to spend 50% of his time with each one of the “divorced” partners unless, as Roissy suggested in concept #1, one is in someway abusing the child.
    Under this system, a man who is in a monogomous relationship and finds his “wife” in bed with another man can either 1.) Walk away with no financial penalties to either party OR 2.) challenge the lover of his “wife” to a duel in a National Honor Court. Cuckolding would always be exceptable grounds for a duel in such an institution if I had my way. (sigh) Likewise, I suppose a woman should be granted the same right against her “husband’s” lover. Under such a system, since marriages are not recognized by the state, gay marriage, monogamy, hypergamy, promiscuity, polyandry, group marriage, bigamy, trigamy, and polygamy would all become legal options

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  264. @Ed the Department Head

    I like your idea. At least, it ends the Bad-Bad situation of marriage for men, now. It also requires women to work.

    Want to be a man? Then shut the fuck up and be one.

    I hate this women-having-their-cake-and-eating-it-too.

    In this mushy middle, it’s the men who are being screwed. Women want the old-style privileges, and the freedoms of the now, with none of the responsibilities of either.

    Want chivalry? Then get behind me.

    Want equality? Then stop whining.

    I’ll accept either – but not this shitty middle.

    So your solution sounds like a better situation than now, in any case.

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  265. PRCalDude wrote:

    All this serves as a visible example to my wife every time she hears from her mother.

    That’s a great story, and as you note, a very hard hitting reminder to your wife that will give lie to the divorce fantasy that some of her female friends must be yapping about.

    T-1000 wrote:

    What else…oh yeah, the alpha asshole who tears up his court summons, skips town, and never answers his phone always wins . . .

    Interesting suggestion. But I’ve heard of examples where the guy ignores the summons and gets thrown in jail – and then he’s out of a job and can’t pay alimony/child support, and so he stays in jail.

    I imagine it’s not just about skipping town, but leaving the country? This is something all men considering marriage in the US need to study up on.

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  266. Ed the Department HeadEd–

    The closest you can come to this now is living together unmarried. If you make big bucks, or have them, do up a simple cohabitation agreement and sign it. It’s main purpose is to defeat common law marriage claims

    If you want to have kids, have them out of wedlock living together. Like Matthew McConaughey and his hot Brazilian model and not TV reality show host wife. Then you really need the cohabitation agreement.

    She can still get the same feminist way jacked up child support=also stealth alimony she’d get if you were married, but not his wealth.

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  267. T-1000

    Secondly, pre-nups never work. A pre-nup cannot contradict what the law of the land says, which almost everywhere is that marital assets get split 50-50. I don’t care what your prenup says, anything you earned, bought, or whatever during the marriage is getting split. The best a pre-nup can do is set the level at 50/50, and not 60/40 if your wife guns for more.

    This is totally crap advice and untrue. Prenups can and do work for all things not child support=stealth alimony or child custody related. I.e. they can work in preventing you owing her alimony or in having to give her half your assets earned during the marriage.

    It is true that if you’re worth a lot her divorce lawyer is going to advocate trying to break the prenup. It’s true you’ll probably end up compromising and giving her a bit more than the prenup provides. But you’re way better off with a prenup than not if you make any substantial dash at all and the marriage lasts any substantial period of time.

    The best thing when you want to settle down is to live together without marrying. That way you don’t need lawyers going in or going out, if you do split up. A cohabitation agreement would be a good idea but it’s main purpose is to make it clear that you mutually don’t wish to be considered common law married and that was the understanding you had in entering into cohabiting.

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  268. Doug1~ I sadly concur with t-100’s view, prenups are worth nothing when there are children are involved. It allows judges wide discretion to do as they please, and certainly with an ideology that is not patriarchal but matriarchal. Always start the marriage on an equal footing by placing all your personal assets in the legal control of someone else, never mingle and always ensure there is a 50% liability to everything you purchase even if you do not get married. Keep good accounting books just for the hell of it, you buy a pan, shirt or piece of furniture, enter it as the asset it is. When you buy something make sure you are willing to lose it, house , car , toys and collectibles. All will be liquidated or asset value converted to basically ensure the legal vultures get their fair share. As for kids don’t expect too much in support of the male parent being involved with the children, the state and ABA have a scam worked out that maximizes the profiteering and marginalizes one parents involvement by hook or by crook as the saying goes. If you do want to fight for more than the state allocation of what is termed parenting time, the state will put into place some pretty nifty corporate tools, including but not limited to get you on a sex register list if you can’t afford the fee’s, the appointment of a legally immune from prosecution attorney or GAL that can basically tell lies all day long without ever being accountable. My advice to many is the only solution is choose a female who is more naturally endowed to being a female. Either by getting a decent one from abroad and setting up house there. Quite a few guy’s I know have set up house abroad in South America and just work six months here in the states. It actually works out much better financially with the cost of living. Some even do 3 wks here and one week at home.

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  269. […] far longer than they have in the past. The Four Sirens of the Sexual Apocalypse (now with a Fifth! Status jockeying!) explain these choices very well. Mr. McElroy in Atlanta said he would definitely start thinking […]

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