Teutonic Efficiency Smothers Latin Flash

Status whoring citizen of the world SWPLs cry into their artisanal beers. I laugh. It’s also nice to see a European team that actually looks European (hi, France!). Before any of you start bitching, how many were complaining that Ghana looked too Ghanaian? Yeah, that’s what I thought. No one.

I wonder how good the USA would do if we had our best athletes playing soccer instead of baseball, basketball and football? I bet we would rule FIFA like the petulant peasant province it is.

(This post certified gig bait.)





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  1. I was very happy with the result, but for the record Germany has loads of players who aren’t ethnic Germans. Klose and Podolski are Polish. Özil is Turkish. Khedira is Algerian. Boateng is Ghanaian. Cacau is Afro-Brazilian.

    [editor: polish is close enough.]

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  2. über alles

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  3. Deutschland, Deutschland ueber Alles
    Ueber Alles in der Welt!

    Nice to see that Germany, which the Allies (USA especially) tried so very hard to humiliate and deracinate, can still manage it occasionally.\

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  4. on July 3, 2010 at 12:07 pm chris beaver

    I think Germany initiating the Second World War was the reason for that….

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  5. So many european soccer team played afwfully that I can tell you that in Italy many are wishing that the Coup go to some one else (Ghana).

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  6. Glad you are following soccer. The stuff about USA is a bunch of coulda woulda shouda.

    European looking Italy went home. Mixed looking Germany marches forward. What part of Ozil, Boateng, Khedira, Tasci, Aogo do you not understand?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/16/sports/soccer/16iht-WCSOCCER.html

    And back to the real game. Guys who are not sarging World Cup pussy are like the ones who are missing out on Yoga hoohoo on some idiotic principle that yoga is unAmerican.

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  7. Given that nearly 100% of the Argentine team is of recent European descent and that a few of the them even have “Teutonic” surnames (Heinze, Messi, Mascherano), I guess this post makes you kind of an idiot.

    You might want to crack a book, check Wikipedia, or at least watch “Evita” before spouting off like this again.

    [editor: it’s the perception that matters. SWPLs swoon for south armerican countries like argentina because they are perceived to be “off-white”.]

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  8. @CPK @Roissy

    Right. Argentina’s overwhelming whiteness (>90%) has pretty much been the decisive factor in shaping its national identity and relations with its neighbors (cf. the contrast with Brazil), as well as its unbearable sense of entitlement. SWPLs may indeed be morons. They’ll probably get behind Uruguay now, which is, if anything, whiter than Argentina.

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  9. no girl game can beat soccer

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  10. Spain is going to win it this year. Auf wiedersehn Deutschland.

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  11. “Given that nearly 100% of the Argentine team is of recent European descent and that a few of the them even have “Teutonic” surnames (Heinze, Messi, Mascherano)…”

    Messi and Mascherano are Italo-Argentines. Heinze’s mother was Italian.

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  12. “I wonder how good the USA would do if we had our best athletes playing soccer instead of baseball, basketball and football?”

    Roughly half of the best soccer players would be black, and the US soccer team would be quite dark.

    [editor: that’s probably true, although soccer is more of an endurance sport, so i’m not sure how that would shake out.]

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  13. @Roissy — In other words, don’t confuse you with inconvenient facts?

    [editor: no, in other words, your reading comprehension sucks.]

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  14. on July 3, 2010 at 12:56 pm The Specimen

    Catching the 7:00 am games (here on the West Coast) at public venues has offered innumerable opportunities for gaming foreign chicks. God bless the Brazilians. I can see why Roosh would want to move down there.

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  15. man roosh must be so butthurt now

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  16. Wake up white man!

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  17. I’ve talked to English coaches who think the US would win the World Cup if we ever seriously developed players.

    In Europe, the players are signed to professional contracts at the age of 16 after having trained in the clubs’ academies for several years. American players are just looking to get recruited by a college.

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  18. “It’s also nice to see a European team that actually looks European (hi, France!).”

    why is it nice?

    [editor: because i like diversity.]

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  19. Weird post. Who gives a crap about soccer any way? Bunch of divin pansies…..

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  20. on July 3, 2010 at 1:28 pm Loki_TheFiatKing

    [editor: that’s probably true, although soccer is more of an endurance sport, so i’m not sure how that would shake out.]

    You are retarded. Kenyas? Lolzlolzlolz.

    {editor: spot the irony. “kenyas” are east african. east africa is not west africa. most of the US’s best athletes are of west african origin.]

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  21. Only Betas watch other men play games. Its a matter of nuances if we are talking aboout soccer or WOW.

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  22. on July 3, 2010 at 1:48 pm Hungry Hungry Hippos

    “Only Betas watch other men play games. Its a matter of nuances if we are talking aboout soccer or WOW.”

    Well… it is sort of vicarious physical dominance to constantly watch sports you don’t really play.

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  23. Totally off-topic, but I’ll just throw it out.

    Anyone know of any game resources/tips for when you’ve got kids? I’ve only got her every other weekend, so I could just lay off and focus on gaming women the rest of the time, but what fun is that? Seems like I should at least be able to get some numbers despite (or because of) the kid and follow up later.

    Also, thanks for the reminder about the Ghana players flopping during the US game, now I don’t feel so bad for them.

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  24. Hehe. See Argentina as a bellwether for the US.

    At the end of WWII, there were a few countries that
    came out smelling like roses, such as

    The US (hell, they won, and the cost was tolerable,
    NOT involving devastating the country economically,
    nor getting bombed to shreds). Ditto Canada and
    Australia.

    Sweden and Switzerland (having managed to sit out
    the war, and selling to both sides).

    Argentina. As above for Sweden and Switzerland.

    Note that all these countries were culturally somewhat
    similar, and mostly populated by European peoples with
    somewhat similar values etc.

    Then came Juan Peron. Populist spread-the-wealth
    apostle. Nine years of Peron took Argentina from
    one of the wealthiest countries in the world to an
    economic basket case. They having been working at
    digging themselves out since then, with only partial
    success.

    Sweden dug itself down in much the same way but
    at a much slower pace, and
    went from Western Europe’s richest country (or second,
    after Switzerland), to one of the fairly poor ones,
    relative to the rest of Western Europe. But it took
    almost 50 years. (Google for Wigforss, the Finance
    Minister in the late 40s). In the early 90s, the country
    went through a partial (and painful) reset, which
    made it viable again, for now.

    Anybody seeing parallels somewhere?

    Thor

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  25. Take guys like chris johnson, wes welker, derrelle revis out of nfl, lebron, deron williams, chris paul out of nba, and jacoby ellsbury, carl crawford out of mlb and it’d be a pretty sick lineup.

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  26. @Thor

    You have the timeline confused. Argentina was one of the wealthiest countries in the world pre-WWI, mostly due to grain exports to Britain. That collapsed in 1914, and they never really recovered. Yes, WWII inflated the economies of every large exporting neutral, but the post-war decline is as much reversion to the mean as Peronism.

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  27. This year’s German team is a delight to watch.

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  28. Balzac

    I’m by no means a PUA, so my game advice is therefore suspect. With that said, I get a great deal of attention from women whenever I’m out with my daughter. I’m 100% focused on being dad, and this seems to make them want my attention. Also, it is pretty hard not to be alpha in your 5 year old daughter’s eyes.

    Conversely, my wife mentions the number of pathetic guys attending all of the mother/child events at the library, etc, obviously pimping their kids looking to score with the moms.

    So my advice would be the same as if you weren’t looking to pick up women. Be a great dad to your daughter. Focus on being what mom can’t ever be for her. Pick her up and carry her around, while she squeals with delight at the excitement and safety of being in her dad’s arms. Take her to the grocery store, hardware store, or whatever. My daughter has developed a love for driving off road. Delight your daughter and be oblivious to any women around. You won’t have any shortage of women approaching you.

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  29. Soccer match? Has there been a soccer match?

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  30. editor: that’s probably true, although soccer is more of an endurance sport, so i’m not sure how that would shake out

    Yeah, the athletes who are offensive and defensive linemen (and players like Shaq) would crumble on a soccer field. Maybe, only the WR’s and DB’s would be useful? Not that that is relevant to first world athletics.

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  31. @ applier

    LOL. All the real alphas I know are passionate about rugby or football. Really passionate. As in go to the other side of the world (Australia) to watch the rugby. They watch cricket but aren’t passionate about it. Although now I come to think of it, as well as watching, they tend to play it even at a hobby level.

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  32. on July 3, 2010 at 2:58 pm ahappinessexperiment

    @ Dan, to be nitpicky it was mostly beef exports not grain.

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  33. Quoth Roissy: It’s also nice to see a European team that actually looks European (hi, France!). Before any of you start bitching, how many were complaining that Ghana looked too Ghanaian? Yeah, that’s what I thought. No one.”

    Roissy, it’s remarks like this that give me such a man crush on you.

    The word “diversity” (as used by our reigning cultural overlords) quite simply translates as “fewer Whites.”

    Period.

    SWPL sayeth “I believe in [diversity]” = SWPL thinking “I believe in [fewer Whites]”

    SWPL sayeth “[Diversity] is a worthy goal” = SWPL thinking “[Fewer Whites] is a worthy goal.”

    This is why no one complained that Team Ghana wasn’t “diverse” enough. This is why no leftist will ever criticize Mexico City for not being “diverse” enough.

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  34. Off topic, but a hamster wheel in hyperdrive:

    http://www.hookingupsmart.com/2010/06/30/hookinguprealities/how-to-flip-a-player/

    Yeah, I know. Why would I tell you how to flip a player, turn a cad, tame an asshole? I spend much of my time telling you not to put out for these types. I write at great length about how miserable these men make women… And yet.

    I know you still pine for these guys. Successfully taming one is considered by many women to be the brass ring on the mating carousel.

    Funny how she even uses the term carousel.

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  35. Tomorrow our entire Western world will one day reflect France’s soccer team today.

    Wake up white man.

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  36. @ Phil
    I wouldn’t say France is a non-racist country by any means, so if that’s their team, IMHO it must genuinely reflect the best footballers in the country.

    In terms of the German team, citizenship is harder to get in Germany than it is for most other European countries. Presumably one can’t play for the national team without citizenship, but only residency (I don’t know for a fact, it seems a reasonable assumption).

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  37. @Lily

    Germany relaxed its citizenship laws considerably in 1999. If not for that, they’d be without five of their starters today.

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  38. on July 3, 2010 at 3:14 pm RelationshipGamer

    Roissy has obviously read Steve Sailer’s article on race and soccer.

    http://www.alternativeright.com/main/the-magazine/white-man-s-game/

    “That’s how Americans think about sports. The solution to every sporting problem is to Get The Best Athletes. And how do you know who the Best Athletes are? They’re the ones with the most Athleticism. (In case you can’t tell, these are all American Sportstalk euphemisms for “black.”)

    FIFA could change the rules to make soccer more a sport of explosiveness and sprinting ability, like American sports. Americans are used to watching games where athletes rush about in a frenzy for a few seconds, then take a breather. We tend to be annoyed by soccer’s shortage of substitutions and timeouts, which leaves soccer players dogging it around the field to conserve energy.

    Over the generations, rule changes in American spectator sports have tended toward more timeouts, more substitutions, and more specialization. For example, college football players used to play both offense and defense, but by 1960, the NCAA allowed specialized offensive and defensive platoons.

    Soccer, though, hasn’t gotten with the program. This not only reduces the number of commercials that can be shown during soccer broadcasts to un-American levels, it also subtly penalizes players of West African descent who tend to be better at sprints than at endurance running.

    This is clear at the world-class level in men’s track & field. Blacks of West African ancestry monopolize the 100-meter dash, accounting for all but one of the 200 fastest times in history. They’re almost as good at 200m, not quite as overpowering at 400m, and only modestly competitive at 800m. They aren’t world class at any longer lengths, although a black Brazilian did once run a fast marathon in the 1990s. (Brazilian blacks appear to average more East African ancestry than American and West Indian blacks.)”

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  39. I wonder how good Steve Nash would have been had he focused on Soccer. Yes, I know he’s Canadian, but I heard him say he always knew his future was in Basketball. So who knows how much better our team would be if a guy as good as Nash could have been at soccer understood that he was never going to be a “top level” player. Nash’s dad was a professional soccer player, and his brother was on the Canadian National team, so if any guy playing in the NBA could have been a soccer star it’s Nash. And he didn’t think it would happen.

    I’m sure we would be quite a bit better with the right system, but would we dominate is debatable.

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  40. @Ludwig

    Once again, for the record, Argentina is almost completely white, and there team is basically 100% Spanish, Italian German, and English descent. Germany’s team is far from uniformly Teutonic.

    [editor: as i said, what matters here is not the specific amount of teutonic blood in each team, but how the teams are perceived by SWPLs. i know how these trendy swpls think. germany is viewed as boring white guys, while argentina is seen as a team of macho latin lovers. and on the hierarchy of swpl moral virtue latins places above germans. people are missing the point of this post. i couldn’t care less if argentina wins the next 100 world cups. what i love about their ignominious loss to germany is how it etches pain into the faces of the multicult swpl crowd.]

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  41. @ Dan

    You’re absolutely right, but it’s still a lot stricter than France or the UK at least, which makes one wonder what the team would look like otherwise.

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  42. @Balzac
    Seems like I should at least be able to get some numbers despite (or because of) the kid and follow up later.Seems like I should at least be able to get some numbers despite (or because of) the kid and follow up later.

    If you’re going to make use of your kid for game purposes you could at least increase her pocket money a little or maybe buy him/her a small present in appreciation.

    Also, remember it’s hard to supervise a child and game at the same time. I had to help rescue a small girl today who nearly drowned while her father’s attention was distracted.

    If a man’s eye strays from his own child when that child is two years old and standing on the edge of a deep and murky pond feeding ducks, he’s clearly not a good future prospect.

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  43. Yes Germany has immigrants, but its best players are guys with names like Neuer, Schweinstager, and Muller. The Germans have immigrants, but it seems they’ve assimilated and play with the style and efficiency of their ethnic teammates, which was not true for the French team.

    By the way, the Germans have by far the hottest female fans in the stands, which I’m sure you’ve noticed.

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  44. on July 3, 2010 at 3:24 pm ahappinessexperiment

    “If a man’s eye strays from his own child when that child is two years old and standing on the edge of a deep and murky pond feeding ducks, he’s clearly not a good future prospect.”

    you shouldn’t have been distracting the man then

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  45. on July 3, 2010 at 3:25 pm Rant Casey from Brazil

    In soccer, the role of the Coach is enormous.

    As an endurance sport, and not a fast sport (like “football” or basketball), strategy is first order.

    The Coach of the last Cup, for one exemple, is Luis Felipe Scollari (italian). He took my local team, Gremio, to win every championship it participated when he was the Coach. Then, he led Brazil do victory in 2006. And after that, he made Portugal – a fairly mediocre team otherwise – in the group of the European strong teams (that is, when he was the Coach, only).

    Soccer is won through wise strategy, endurance and team cohesion. A football team or basketball team works like a mercenary army. A soccer team works like a warrior *tribe*.

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  46. @OhioStater

    Sorry, that’s just not true. Müller and Schweinsteiger have been brilliant, but their most prolific goalscorers are Klose and Podolski, both immigrants, and Özil, the breakout star who has somehow managed to make the team better despite replacing Michael Ballack, wouldn’t have been eligible for citizenship or the Mannschaft pre-1999.

    [editor: the poles are close enough to teutonic ethnicity that it is a distinction without a difference. so those guys are gimmes.]

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  47. I don’t complain too much that the U.S. National Team sucks; I figure we have to allow the rest of the world some sort of glory in something. Imagine if the U.S. ruled politically, economically, *and* in the world’s most popular sport? You think the rest of the world hates us now?

    Soccer is the U.S.’s token gift to the rest of the world for our hegemony, and I say this only partially tongue-in-cheek. Also, I have a strong feeling that soccer became so popular precisely *because* the U.S. wasn’t all that good at it or didn’t care to play it. I could make a comparison here to the use of the metric system, if I wasn’t so lazy.

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  48. on July 3, 2010 at 3:29 pm ahappinessexperiment

    in most countries the best soccer players are from lower class backgrounds (w obvious exceptions). in the US it takes money for children to play much soccer. inner city blacks tend toward basketball because, among other things, there’s usually a free court around.

    [editor: as a buddy of mine said, “for soccer, all you need is a ball and a dusty field.”]

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  49. @ahappinessexperiment

    you shouldn’t have been distracting the man then

    I didn’t notice the man. I was admiring the play of sunlight on the bottle-green chests of the drakes.

    That’s how I spotted the child falling in. Luckily I was able to grab her before she got too far away from the edge (the reeds in that pond are very nasty).

    Another good dress ruined alas.

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  50. “The Coach of the last Cup, for one exemple, is Luis Felipe Scollari (italian).”

    He’s from Brazil.

    “Then, he led Brazil do victory in 2006.”

    That was in 2002.
    Sure you’re from Brazil?

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  51. Maybe he means Scolari is ethnically Italian? Still false, but less obviously wrong.

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  52. @sdaedalus

    I had to help rescue a small girl today who nearly drowned while her father’s attention was distracted.

    Profoundly troubling. Reminds me of the time a few years back where a divorcée brought her 1 year old son to a backyard party of some mutual friends. He spent the whole time wandering from father figure to father figure, while mom was trying to flirt with the guys.

    Later we played volleyball in the pool, and she left him poolside to fend for himself. I trained as a lifeguard in college, and the idea of him drowning was very real to me. I spent the whole time making sure he was ok. Unfortunately she was on my team and kept trying to block my view of him with her cleavage. I don’t know how she couldn’t tell I had absolutely no interest. Or maybe that is what spurred her on, who knows. I ended up just getting out of the pool so my wife and I could keep a better eye on him.

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  53. @Dalrock

    It is really important to keep a constant eye on small children round water or traffic, they are really sly and move like greased lightening, that is why they make the best pickpockets. They also usually believe that they have supernatural powers and nothing can kill them, this is a very stressful combination for anyone looking after them.

    Two year olds are the worst, they firmly believe they are omnipotent. At one point I had to be put on a rein. This however did not stop me falling into the same pond at two and a half while still attached to said rein. I had rationalized (early hamster?) that if I jumped in, I would automatically turn into a duck, this sounded like a good deal. As it turned out, I remained a small child and the ducks were less than welcoming, as indeed was the case with my father when he finally pulled me out.

    That lady must have been either very stupid or very lucky or most likely both.

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  54. on July 3, 2010 at 3:49 pm Rant Casey from Brazil

    @ “Me”

    Thats right, it was 2002. I inverted 2006 for 2002.

    I’m talking on Skype with someone as I type. Mea culpa.

    ***

    Yes, I’m from Brazil. I live in Rio Grande do Sul.

    ***

    Luis Felipe Scollari is Brazilian of Italian heritage. We’re from the same state, and its heavily populated with european descendants.

    Italian immigrants are refered to merely as “italians”, or by “gringos” (in south Brazil gringo referers to italian immigrants, and not to white foreigns in general).

    Midlessly, I used the local reference when I called him “italian”. Guess the confusion would be greater if I refered to him as “gringo” – you guys would think I meant he was american or something.

    German immigrants (like myself) are refered to as “german” only, or as “kartoffel”. Why? well, we eat a lot of potato…

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  55. @sdaedalus
    That lady must have been either very stupid or very lucky or most likely both.

    I wouldn’t call her a lady, but yes to both. To this day she makes my skin crawl. And I agree about young children. I’m probably a bit of a snob on this.

    It always confounds me to see young children running around in restaurants, stores, etc. You can always spot the parents; they are the only ones whose heads don’t turn when the inevitable crash comes. Before I had kids parents would see the look on my face when their kid wandered up to my table at a restaurant and say “you’ll understand when you have kids”. But I didn’t. More recently a woman said “you only have one child. you’ll understand when you have more than one”. Nope. By some magical force I can keep track of both and not have them wandering around in public. I’m afraid I will never understand.

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  56. on July 3, 2010 at 4:07 pm Sad Brazilian

    The US would score ! With the hands…go dreaming, Roissy.
    Brazil lost because the stupid coach forced the team to play as Europeans.

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  57. LOL

    —-
    Police re-open investigation into Al Gore sex poodle claims

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  58. Yeah, as many commentators here have said, that German team is being glorified by the media for its ‘diversity’. I want the Dutch to win. Kick those fucking South African savages in the nuts and score one for apartheid.

    I’m an American of largely German heritage and I always identified with the Teutonic Efficiency that you speak of. However, they have undertaken the immigration kick with the rest of western Europe and have about 12% of their 80 million people with ethnicities other than that of German. In the last few years I decreasingly think of myself as ‘American’ as I once did when I was growing up and now I have trouble identifying with the countries of my heritage. Truly a man without a country.

    [editor: the dutch beating the brazilians was also another blow to the ovary sack of swpls everywhere. go dutch! oh, and according to wikipedia, most of the dutch squad is ethnically dutch.]

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  59. on July 3, 2010 at 4:25 pm Sad Brazilian

    In Brazil, nobody cares if you are Jewish, Italian, German or whatever. In soccer, it is not even mentioned. Brazilian best players have been black (Pele, Ronaldinho Gaucho), Italian (Rivelino), mixed (Ronaldo). We only need a Jap now. There is no explanation for talent.
    The race debate in soccer is bull.
    Germans are playing well now. But they have been good for decades.
    And Argentina…pleeease. This team was a mess(i) led by a buffoon.

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  60. on July 3, 2010 at 4:33 pm ahappinessexperiment

    “And Argentina…pleeease. This team was a mess(i) led by a buffoon.”

    hahaha… you’ll never ever ever hear a brazilian sad or otherwise give argentina credit for anything

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  61. The difficulty of course is that if we classify people according to ethnicity and background, Roissy’s teammates, so to speak, are the SWPL team. Is it ever possible for an educated white man to shake off the taint of SWPL, no matter how hard he tries?

    [editor: sneering helps purify the soul.]

    Even if one manages to avoid the diversity obsession, there are other, more subtle, characteristics of a SWPL person that remain. The Roissy-SWPL dynamic is almost familial, the story of a man who disapproves of the system he belongs to, eviscerates it publicly, but is ultimately bound into it irrevocably.

    [rednecks have their problems, too. but i bring balance to the force. in the sense that i am bound to pursuing young pretty slender sex-loving women within my geographic sphere of secular influence, the swpl milieu puts claims on my loyalty.]

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  62. on July 3, 2010 at 4:34 pm Sad Brazilian

    What I mean is that SWPLs are playing a drum that is not played in Brazil! We see ourselves as Brazilians, period. The Dutch (lucky bastards who will never win again) probably have more ethnic / historic issues dividing them than we do here. Europeans consider the guy living on the other side of the river a foreigner.

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  63. on July 3, 2010 at 4:37 pm Sad Brazilian

    Brazil beat them severely in the qualifyings. Credit where credit is due.

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  64. The latins would get the chicks, though. Germans = plodding along efficient betas. Latins = passionate alphas with flair.

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  66. on July 3, 2010 at 4:52 pm Sad Brazilians

    It used to be that European soccer style was like Russians playing basketball. Harley Globe Trotter Americans would be South Americans playing soccer. Not anymore.

    Just see the goals the Germans scored. Pure individual talent, very South American. People learn, the same way other teams learned how to play basketball American style and beat the “dream team”. The problem is that there is just a few great talented players in Germany. But the coach chose the right ones, and gave them wide freedom to excel. The Brazilian coach chose the wrong ones (against all the media and fans) and put them in a straightjacket.

    In fact, as someone said, the coach makes all the difference. In Brazil we have at least three or four local teams which could easily have played better than the national team did.

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  67. on July 3, 2010 at 4:56 pm ahappinessexperiment

    Sad Brazilian is proving my theory that Brazilians really really like soccer.

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  68. on July 3, 2010 at 4:57 pm Cannon's Canon

    most of my diasporic Mort friends still dislike (read: hate) Germany like feminists hate chris brown.

    one of the comments from the isteve blog has stuck with me all week: that we can express HBD stereotypes in terms of soccer playing-styles, as if that is somehow distinct from roster composition.

    african teams will always be “raw talent, athletic, fast, unrefined, with yet-unfulfilled potential”. it doesn’t matter that their players earn millions in european leagues and are coached at the national level by the finest white coaches. african backlines can post shutouts, but they will still “lack some discipline” relative to other countries.

    south americans, especially brazil, play “the beautiful game”, regardless of their scoreless draws. and germans will forever be characterized as “industrious” and “clinical”. podolski spent last week whiffing in front of the goal, but his team will still be “clinical”. why could that be?

    let’s not forget france’s fully-integrated team, which is mired in functionless internal turmoil.

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  69. in the sense that i am bound to pursuing young pretty slender sex-loving women within my geographic sphere of secular influence, the swpl milieu puts claims on my loyalty.

    Then get it over with and move to Eastern Europe.

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  70. on July 3, 2010 at 5:04 pm Sad Brazilian

    Unfortunately, yes. Fucking waste of time ! Panis et circensis, indeed. We are so conditioned, it makes Roissy’s biological theories look like free will. And we pass it on to our kids, nevertheless.

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  71. on July 3, 2010 at 5:13 pm Rant Casey from Brazil

    I cannot say I agree with your perception, Sad Brazilian…

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  72. on July 3, 2010 at 5:17 pm Sad Brazilian

    come on, Casey, to close the bank branches on matches days? We take the whole thing a little too far, dont we?
    anyway, I am a little bitter now.

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  73. “God bless the Brazilians. I can see why Roosh would want to move down there.”

    The Brazilian girls up here are very second-rate. I’ve tried a bit to go where they hang out in D.C., but I can’t say they’re worth the effort.

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  74. on July 3, 2010 at 5:23 pm namae nanka

    1.3 fertility rate, the teutons are imploding. Diversity an inevitable outcome.

    [editor: it’s time to reexamine the causal arrow. perhaps diversity is part of the cause of the natives’ fertility implosion.]

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  75. sneering helps purify the soul

    What soul?

    [editor: darkness is not evidence of absence.]

    i bring balance to the force. in the sense that i am bound to pursuing young pretty slender sex-loving women within my geographic sphere of secular influence, the swpl milieu puts claims on my loyalty.

    I can’t make head or tail of this sentence but I have a suspicion that it is just a more high falutin’ version of the AD principle, that if you would like to fuck someone then you should get along with their ethnic group, am I correct?

    [more like if i want to fuck a certain type of girl who is predominantly found in one kind of cultural scene, i have to bite the bullet and suffer living among their pretensions.]

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  76. on July 3, 2010 at 5:25 pm Sad Brazilian

    To relate to Roissy’s materialistic view of sex, soccer fans live for those 10 minutes of pure bliss. When the play is really good, it is sublime. And you always expect it is going to be this way again in the next match. We also hate the 0x0 draws.
    If you doubt me, just search Youtube for Ronaldo’s best goals. That is pure art, not found anywhere else in sports.

    [editor: i’m not anti-soccer. i enjoy watching. just not as much as i enjoy watching american football. what i have just written would be heresy to a swpl.]

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  77. on July 3, 2010 at 5:29 pm Sad Brazilian

    Roosh knows. Brazilian immigrant girls in the US are low tier chicks. Probably from a country backward town named Governador Valadares.
    The beautiful ones are found shopping in New York, but most of you guys would have to have lots of game and money to get them.

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  78. on July 3, 2010 at 5:30 pm Rant Casey from Brazil

    Cannon’s Cannon says:

    “african teams will always be “raw talent, athletic, fast, unrefined, with yet-unfulfilled potential”. it doesn’t matter that their players earn millions in european leagues and are coached at the national level by the finest white coaches. african backlines can post shutouts, but they will still “lack some discipline” relative to other countries.”

    Yes, I agree. And that is precisely the case of the Brazilian Team, as well.

    Therefore, I disagree with Sad Brazilian, that the actual Coach put the Brazilian team in a straightjacket.

    The brazilian boys in the Team, are poor kids who are choosen on the basis of individual skill in large selection processes in the local clubs, when they start in soccer.

    They are all individual talent, and very little discipline and strategy. Many are known to leave the concentration in the night before important games, and go clubbing.

    Luis Felipe Scollari was sucessful in 2002 (not 2006 like I said before) exactly because he disciplined and picked players wich the broad public did not aprove. He built a modest and competent team.

    Just like the current Coach did. Almost all the players chosen by Dunga are known to have a calm temper, and possible to be subject to discipline.

    BUT – and here is where I disagree with Sad Brazilian – the actual Coach was not able to keep the morale of the team up to the second half, when the Dutch scored a goal.

    I believe our players suffered some kind of “panic reaction”. They envisioned what would be like to go back to the slums, lost the temper, the morale, and did a long sequence of mistakes afterwards.

    They immediatly regressed to the “individual skill” mode, and could not apply the game plan – based in strategy – that worked wonderfully in the previous 4 matches.

    That is my assessment on the negative results we had against the Dutch.

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  79. [editor: it’s time to reexamine the causal arrow. perhaps diversity is part of the cause of the natives’ fertility implosion.]

    The Japanese are less diverse than we are and their fertility situation is even worse.

    [editor: that’s true. that’s why i wrote “part” of the cause. there are other causes in the mix… sparse land, housing costs, contraceptives, abortion, female economic empowerment, and status signaling.]

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  80. on July 3, 2010 at 5:45 pm Sad Brazilian

    Casey,
    Not all players come from slums. Kaka was middle class, as was Julio Cesar. Others are country boys. And they would not return to slums, but to their mansions and Ferraris in Europe.
    Those kids have been disciplined since they begun playing at 14.
    They panicked because they cant score. They didnt have a Ganso or Nilmar, a Ronaldinho Gaucho, a killer. They had the dominance of the whole field but were afraid to go for it. Like in sex game, you have to go for it, but the coach made them play sidewards.
    And when the Dutch, who had done nothing, scored a goal made by a Brazilian defender, they got nervous.
    But the main problem is that Brazilians need the freedom to shoot. Dunga, the coach, was hated even before he lost.

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  81. [editor: darkness is not evidence of absence.]

    No, but a pile of blackened ashes is pretty conclusive.

    [editor: good men burn every day.]

    I suppose a fresh white soul could always have risen from the ashes like a phoenix, presumably it is going through the appropriate blackening process as we speak.

    [does a black hole exert imaginary force?]

    Also, and given your previously expressed views you will appreciate this, have you ever heard the phrase “once you go black, you can’t go back”. Normally applied *ahem* to women, but with a wider meaning as well.

    [is this a plea for ignorance?]

    more like if i want to fuck a certain type of girl who is predominantly found in one kind of cultural scene, i have to bite the bullet and suffer living among their pretensions.

    I think this is a bit of a cop-out, your answer is more slippery than black ice under the wheels of a tyre.

    [not at all. most slender, hot chicks with a liberal view of premarital sex are found in cities and cosmopolitan regions of the country. these regions also happen to host lots of people with a swplian view of the world.]

    Sparks 123 has made a good point above – given your well-advertised penchant for Eastern Europeans (again very SWPL, SWPL men love Eastern Europeans, their commitment to diversity usually not extending below waist-level), and their equally well-advertised penchant for you, why not move to Eastern Europe?

    [you don’t know swpls very well, it sounds like. not many have professed an abiding love for EE chicks, and still fewer have made a moral virtue out of such an obsession as it may be. that aside, who said i wasn’t considering an eventual move to EE?]

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  82. on July 3, 2010 at 5:57 pm Sad Brazilian

    Roissy,
    political correctedness of the point of vomiting like we are seeing in South Africa is 100% a Marxist construct as is feminism.
    (browse http://www.henrymakow.com)
    The funny thing is that poor people in Brazil and probably in South Africa dont give a shit for the ” we are the world” troupe. Mostly are conservatives. Socialists just use their names.
    Just hold to your red white and blue taste and screw the rest. I love Lynird Skynird, btw. Just dont drink beer from the bottle, you miss most of the taste.

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  83. [is this a plea for ignorance?]

    Perish the thought. I was just pointing out the futility of dreaming of purification of something which has already been blackened, it’s impossible to get all the smut out (though I believe Napisan is very good, do you have it over in the States?)

    [editor: knowledge is not the equivalent of smut. but i suppose to those with the purest white souls, knowledge would feel like an oppressive stain.]

    Not at all. most slender, hot chicks with a liberal view of premarital sex are found in cities and cosmopolitan regions of the country. these regions also happen to host lots of people with a swplian view of the world.

    Possibly also there for the same chicks & for the same reasons, ahem, if it talks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck….

    [endless competition is the zero sum name of the game.]

    You don’t know swpls very well, it sounds like. not many have professed an abiding love for EE chicks

    My impression is that irrespective of what SWPLs profess, the boner talks (as you have mentioned before, ahem) of course I do appreciate that this may be universal and not just confined to SWPLs, but my impression is that SWPLs are particularly vunerable in this regard, a certain red-headed Russian spy comes to mind here.

    [swpl men tend to swoon for punk, emo, tankgrrls, and “empowered” feminist chicks. when their attention travels overseas, they extol the virtues of latinas and (in principal at least) black chicks. EE chicks are often brought up by swpl fembots as “””victims””” of sex slave trading.]

    fewer have made a moral virtue out of such an obsession as it may be

    Who said anything about moral virtue?

    [that’s the point of this discussion.]

    that aside, who said i wasn’t considering an eventual move to EE?

    It would be so nice to see you broaden your horizons and maybe even found a feudal dynasty in the wilds of Silesia or some such place. I would hate to think of you at 90 in your SWPL nursing home still raging fruitlessly against a system into which you are inextricably bound.

    PS: it’s not just the women, your penchant for SWPL food is also evident to any keen reader of this blog.

    [there are some things about the swpl lifestyle i like. the fashion, the walkability, the emphasis on health (tho i’d question whether paleo dieting could be considered swpl) and exercise. it’s the insipid multicult ideology and vapid status jockeying at the expense of common sense that i could do without.]

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  84. on July 3, 2010 at 6:34 pm Rant Casey from Brazil

    I’m damn sure I know Sad Brazilian from some corner of internet…

    hehehehe

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  85. So, barbarians won this one, but rome will always be rome.

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  86. The Germans and the Dutch are my favorites. I think Germany has a stronger team than the Netherlands this time. I really liked the way the Germans played. They had their act together tactically and sufficient individual skills. I would’ve rather seen Ghana win than Uruguay. Why? Because they lost despite they played slightly better than Uruguay. Uruguay was a bit lucky in defending their goal during the last minutes.

    Klose’s father has German roots. Hence the family name. He moved to Germany at the age of 9 and speaks German like a native. Podolski’s is a similar case. Podolski has lived in Germany since the age of two and his paternal grandparents had German nationality prior to WW II.

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  87. Podolski and Klose are Polish? If the Germans had their way, Poland would be a province of Germany.

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  88. 1. sports are not interchangeable when it comes to athletes

    2. spain are going to win anyway

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  89. on July 3, 2010 at 7:36 pm ahappinessexperiment

    do the samba bars in lapa count as SWPL i wonder… if you are a gringo i guess it does

    what about cachaca? i guess if you’re a gringo it counts as SWPL

    as an american, am i allowed to touch anything in brazil without it immediately turning into SWPL?

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  90. So cruel, to leave me in the belief that I Had Had the Last Word. I will try to prop my eyelids open to reply

    editor: knowledge is not the equivalent of smut. but i suppose to those with the purest white souls, knowledge would feel like an oppressive stain.]

    Is not the knowledge, but the way in which it was acquired.

    [editor: half the fun is in acquiring it. and in my book fun is not a synonym for soulstain. quite the opposite in fact.]

    I suppose, said knowledge having been passed on to us through the agency of your blog, we are all vicariously stained, alas for my former lily white soul.

    [no one’s forcing you to keep reading.]

    swpl men tend to swoon for punk, emo, tankgrrls, and “empowered” feminist chicks. when their attention travels overseas, they extol the virtues of latinas and (in principal at least) black chicks. EE chicks are often brought up by swpl fembots as “””victims””” of sex slave trading.]

    You may well be right. Lack of first-hand knowledge of SWPL culture is indeed my weak point. I was tending to equate SWPL and middle-class Ireland, there are certainly some striking similarities, but Irishmen go wild for the foreign chicks, punk, emo and tankgrrls would not do it at all here (not since 1992 at any rate).

    [swpl is a whiteworld phenomenon. it crosses boundaries and infects minds just the same. northern europeans and micks seem most susceptible to it. (yay ted kennedy is dead, still!) not to mention jews.]

    But again, you’re talking in terms of talking the talk rather than walking the walk here, who do SWPL men really fancy more, Emma the Emo chick or Katya from Kiev? A straight answer please.

    [irrelevant questions don’t deserve straight answers. but like i said, katya and her ilk are not a swpl political obsession. now if katya is really hot, she’ll be an obsession for any man, swpl or otherwise.]

    Who said anything about moral virtue?

    [that’s the point of this discussion.]

    Nope.

    [yep.]

    All this is a clever diversionary tactic from answering the main point,

    [i answered your main point. that you’re too wrapped up in repetitive bloviating pretending to be a clever eviscerator of soft underbellies is not my moral crisis. be careful, you’re veering dangerously close to boring the fuck outta me.]

    which is basically whether (i) you really are Another Breed living unwillingly among SWPLs as the price you have to pay for poon or whether

    [what part of “i’m with them, but not of them” don’t you understand?]

    (ii) you have *ahem* Gone Native so to speak, you have imbibed their culture, drank their drink, eaten their food, listened to their music, fucked their women and now you are one of them whether you like it or not.

    [i can’t believe you can be this deliberately obtuse. vapid ideological drones can occasionally stumble across good ideas. or: mussollini built the world’s first superhighway.]

    [there are some things about the swpl lifestyle i like. the fashion, the walkability, the emphasis on health (tho i’d question whether paleo dieting could be considered swpl) and exercise. it’s the insipid multicult ideology and vapid status jockeying at the expense of common sense that i could do without.]

    At last, a proper answer.

    [smarminess, thy name is internet geek.]

    I don’t have much to add to this, you do accept that you have SWPL tendencies in certain respects (mostly lifestyle based) but maintain that your ideology is different.

    [i have healthy living tendencies and hedonistic tendencies. (no suicidal tendencies) if a bunch of swpls possess the same tendencies as i do, it’s more a matter of coincidence than any evidence of group loyalty.]

    But the two are not totally separate because living a SWPL lifestyle must necessarily affect, if not the ideology itself, the degree to which you express it and/or act it out, also, no one who is naturally competitive can mix with SWPL people and avoid getting caught up to at least some extent in their status jockeying.

    [nah, if anything, i tend to say things to swpls which would cost me status points. but seeing as how i don’t place much importance in the emptyheaded games they play, i don’t lose sleep over giving offense. naturally, i will bite my tongue when it is personally advantageous. like, for instance, when i’m picking up a raving leftie chick and a candid revelation of my true beliefs would cost me a lay. usually, i like to save the shock of candor for the morning after. the look on their faces is priceless…]

    However I do see where you are coming from, the Irish equivalent of SWPL annoys me too, for the same reasons, even though I am part of it. It is very difficult to avoid being part of some group, and it sounds to me as if SWPL is the closest fit where you are concerned, whether you like it or not & even if it is not a very good fit (I note comments on rednecks).

    [my perfect fit is king of an expansive territory populated with hot peasant chicks.]

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  91. “If you doubt me, just search Youtube for Ronaldo’s best goals. That is pure art, not found anywhere else in sports.”

    I know you said art and not beauty, but I find the sentiment the same. I don’t buy that soccer is THE beautiful sport. Beautiful is a cheap word anyway, if you admire something you can find better words to describe it than that. But what is so particularly beautiful about soccer?

    You can find the same finesse and acrobatics in NBA basketball, American Football, and Rugby. Did you watch the NBA playoffs this year? At it’s best, it’s an extremely smooth and “cheeky” game. Watch Rondo and the Boston Celtics–nothing that I’ve seen in the World Cup has matched the fluidity of that offense when it was clicking.

    I play college Rugby and it’s an ugly game 99% of the time on the collegiate level in the US. But check out the precision and power of the All-Blacks. When the ball starts moving through the hands in the back line or there’s an excellent chip to the corner of the pitch for a try, it’s a pretty thing to see.

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  92. “You can find the same finesse and acrobatics in NBA basketball, American Football, and Rugby.”

    No you can’t.

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  93. on July 3, 2010 at 9:14 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””””[my perfect fit is king of an expansive territory populated with hot peasant chicks.]”””””””

    That is what I am talking about close the fucking drawbridge its bedtime for me and my harem ”as the sun shines overhead”
    he he he

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  94. If you read your history, large parts of German territory were hacked off Germany after WW II. Prussia (remember?) is now part of Poland. Of course, many Germans were ethnically cleansed when these territories were seized.

    History is depressing.

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  95. Most of the old Australian team were Croatian or of Croatian descent. Don’t know what the mixture is these days because soccer doesn’t interest me. ( I was working with a lot of Cro’s, so I heard about soccer ALL the time.)

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  96. on July 3, 2010 at 9:31 pm Anonymouses Anonymous

    @Dan
    “I was very happy with the result, but for the record Germany has loads of players who aren’t ethnic Germans. Klose and Podolski are Polish. Özil is Turkish. Khedira is Algerian. Boateng is Ghanaian. Cacau is Afro-Brazilian.”

    This is the one thing that irks me about NHL Hockey. It’s hardly the NATIONAL Hockey League when no one is from the USA.

    The Puck Hog, I mean, Ovarian, I mean, Late 8, yeah, him…is why the Caps are a love/hate for me.

    I want them to win, but I want them to win as a team, not as puck feeders to a Russian who can’t even get a goal in the entire Olympics.

    Half the Caps team was playing as Team Russia! No wonder we found 10 Russian spies living as Americans. The Russians are posing as Our Nation’s hockey team!

    If they are getting rich playing for American teams, let them become Americans. Let them have pride in the land of opportunity as their adopted homeland.

    I maintain that most foreigners who play American sports do not play for American teams in world competitions is because they suck just enough that we would not have them on the team.

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  97. Somewhat off topic, but worth asking:

    Apropos this movie “I am love”

    ttp://movies.nytimes.com/2010/06/18/movies/18iamlove.html?scp=1&sq=Tilda&st=cse

    Why is it that when an older married women starts fucking young cock, it is considered fodder for a great romance movie, but when an older married man starts fucking young cunt, it is considered horrible, very bad, and just plain wrong and disgusting by the right thinking people?

    Oh, yes. Her husband is emotionally distant. Now I remember.

    Double standard? Woman on a pedestal? The frail, sensitive vessel? Trying to get into touch with her emotions?

    Perhaps someday Roissy can write an essay on this. Bridges of Madison Country was wildly popular with the ladies, especially married women. Imagine if the same movie, with the sexes reversed, were highly popular with married men? They would have called the movie misogynist.

    Everywhere you look, Roissy’s world view is validated (At least as far as the ladies.) This is why I think it is essential for any “aware” male to just give the finger to society’s expectations in male-female interaction. Society expects most men to be just useful tools.

    [editor: the equivalent of the “emotionally distant” husband is the sexually distant wife. but for some reason, aggrieved husbands of sexually distant wives who go looking for fulfillment in the arms of younger loving women don’t receive the same outpouring of sympathy from the gatekeepers of cultural etiquette. you’re right, it is all bullshit. and i’m happily shoving the shit right back in their faces.]

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  98. Grampa,

    Saw that film recently. It’s toxic bullcrap, calculated to give middle-aged harridans a tingle: Basically glorifies a selfish trollop who ditches her family in pursuit of a young shtemp.

    Same way in many Hollywood films, the heroine is going out with some nice guy, who gets ditched for the dashing hero at the end. Evidently, it’s acceptable for the woman to trample all over his dreams.

    There was a film, called “The Baxter”, which was basically about a man who this happens to on a frequent basis.

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  99. The apologists for soccer would do well to let the sport sell itself on its own merits and charms and not attempt to disparage the American public if they do not glom onto the sport immediately.

    America already has 3 major sports that take up the entire calendar year. So for any new sport to become popular, Americans will have to split time between one sport and another.

    Football (Sept-January)
    Basketball (Dec-April)
    Baseball (April-October)
    Hockey (November-March)
    Auto racing (May-September)

    Thats not even mentioning tennis and golf.

    The intelligensia seems embarrassed at their fellow Americans for not abandoning the sports they have grown up following and becoming devotees of soccer, but how likely is this to really happen?

    Soccer has its own particular charms and merits, and it takes a tremendous amount of skill, athleticism, *coordination*, and especially endurance to play. It very well may catch on here, but that might be an organic generational process of 40 years or so, and not an instantaneous one of 5 years. If Vegas-style betting were allowed on Soccer, thus immediately piquing interests of invested bettors in various teams here, there might be some instant interest generated in smaller circles.

    One compliment I have to give soccer is this: I didn’t see steroidial athletes out there. If people only knew how prevalent steroids were in our sporting events (as well as growth hormones and various other pharmacological concoctions), they’d be turned off. A man naturally makes 50-75 mgs of Testosterone per week in his testicles. Many, MANY bodybuilders will literally take over 10 times that amount. Chris Benoit had 10 times the normal amount of T for a man his age in his body when he died. The real scandal was that the media treated that as if it were abnormal. It isn’t. Its funny (I mean side-splitting funny) to see some bodybuilders get off steroids, and watch them lose 20-30 lbs of muscle over the next 12 months even though they are working out very hard to retain it.
    Not having a damned horse’s level of male hormone running through their veins will do that. One thing that people miss in looking at the before-and-after photos of Barry Bonds, Mark McGuire, and Jose Canseco is this: those guys pumped iron before they got on the juice, but only became hyyoooooggee after they got on it.

    Ronaldo might not look so “awesome” in standing-side-by-side comparisons to the athletes mentioned above, but I’d bet he’s got normal sized un-atrophied testicles and will not die of prostate cancer in his late 60’s with an enlarged heart that needs a pig valve (like Arnold has) in it.

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  100. Lame.

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  101. Roissy,

    You’re badly wrong on one thing though.

    Us Mick’s are not particularly prone to the SWPL syndrome.

    Shit, my town has 150,000 people, and only one Starbucks. There are a lot more PCs than Macs (though I’m a Mac man myself); and Prius cars are reassuringly rare.

    Don’t judge us all by the unlovely Kennedy clan/

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  102. If soccer was won by athleticism, African teams would have won the World Cup by now.

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  103. I have a lefty SWPL ex-friend, and all his facebook status updates lately have been catty remarks about Germany. This definitely has a ring of truth to it.

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  104. Any SWPL who thinks of Germany as all-white (which it isn’t, not even close, any more) and Argentina as non-white (with almost the entire population ethnically Western European) is too stupid to debate with. Argentina has the least “Latin flash” of any South American country, and is proud of this fact. The two teams don’t even look considerably different. Come on.

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  105. @OhioStater: Read “God’s Playground” by Norman Davies.
    When you have two much larger countries on either side for over a 1000 years, you develop a survival instinct. Both Germans and Russians had their ass kicked plenty of times. If it wasn’t for the Poles, German women would be wearing burqas in the World Cup.

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  106. on July 3, 2010 at 11:14 pm Thin-Skinned Novice Beta-Wanka

    Here in Krautland, Fußball seems to be more interesting to our chav – proles. The educateed elite (SWPL – Stuff White People Like??) aren’t so crazy and in polite company talking about football is considered kind of low class.

    At least Germans don’t get wrapped up about lecturing about which are the “right” beers to drink. There is little more tiresome than those Yank beer snobs. Beer is made to be enjoyed; drunk not discussed. Cheers!

    Kinda reminds me about the difference between the target markets for Volkswagen in US and DE.

    In the US Volkswagen is for right thinking, organic eating, iPod listening, New York Times reading, multicultural loving, rainbow sticker pasting, SWPLs.

    Here in Germany it’s the most boring car you can buy. Picture German Volkswagen consumers as conservative pensioner wrinklies, government bueraucrats, mommies and daddies, etc.

    If you want to hear a great song about SWPL, please check out “I Got Cash” from Brooklyn Funk Essentials.

    Heard it about a decade ago for the first time on a Public Radio channel here in Berlin that serves the market niche of “better thinking” grown-ups. Go figure. After a listen, imagine that one broadcast uncensored in Dallas or Denver….

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  107. Balzac, dalrock, and SD,

    Oh yes, you can use your kid as a game prop. Of course you have to be in a safe place and always know where your child is.

    Daddy game works especially well if you have a girl and there are other girls in the playground who are used to playing with Moms only. They love having a Dad around who can give them a push on the swing much higher than a Mom can, and their Moms are sort of shocked and impressed to see a man who is willing to comfortably play with their children when most men would be afraid to do it because of fear of being labeled a creep.

    Of course your child must be nearby at all times, and you should only participate in things that involve your kid so that you do not come across as a creep.

    Today my small town had its annual 4th of July picnic at the playground near my house. My 8-year-old daughter, who is in the middle of her Daddy-worshipping stage, wanted to involve me in her games. She and a friend chased me around and squirted me with sponges, getting me all wet. The friend’s mom and dad thanked me for being nice to their daughter.

    Then my daughter and three other girls were playing Tag around the playground set (connected bunch of slides, ladders, tunnels, etc.) and she insisted that I (who was hanging around as the designated parent watching them) participate but give them a handicap by not being allowed on the playground set. I had to sneak around the outside when I was “it” and reach in and tag them — of course I usually couldn’t reach them and they had fun staying out of my reach, but they also liked it when I got them. These girls were all 7 thru 9, but there was also a 3-year-old girl watching raptly. After a couple of minutes of this I retreated and stood by the bench watching them play, and the 3-year-old toddled up to me and wrapped herself around my leg. I escorted her back to her Mom, holding her hand because she didn’t want to leave, and I could tell that the Mom and her friend were eyeing me favorably. The Mom chatted with me a bit about her daughter and I observed something about her which only an attentive parent would notice. More IOIs followed.

    Later on, I went back to the playground to retrieve something my daughter had left there. Almost everyone was gone, but the girl who had been squirting me with the sponge was still riding around on her scooter. She insisted on blocking me and getting in my way while I was retrieving the item, laughing and coming around again as I ducked past her, until finally as I was leaving her parents told her to stop bothering me.

    This didn’t lead anywhere for me of course, but it’s the easiest thing in the world to be alpha to your own daughter, and the social proof actually transfers in a mixed group of girls and their moms. If you don’t have a daughter, nieces work too.

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  108. It is interesting that in France, the all-White Rugby Union team which has won IIRC the last World Cup is far more popular than the all-Black loser-riffic Soccer team.

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  109. on July 4, 2010 at 12:04 am Pat Bateman

    It will be hard for Americans to understand Futbol, I hope some day they would and join the rest of us in this beautiful party.

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  110. @Thin-Skinned Novice Beta-Wanka

    Yeah, thats pretty funny about the Volkswagon market there. In China, KFC is an upscale eatery. Go figure.

    I got a question for you: What is the thinking of the population at large about multiculturalism? Do they like all the Turkish trash living there? I was is Munich a while back and I couldn’t believe how many women had the head scarfs on. Where’s the SS when you need them?

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  111. [editor: the equivalent of the “emotionally distant” husband is
    the sexually distant wife.)

    best insight ive read here. props

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  112. @Ludwig and others

    On “diversity”

    The irony gets particularly fetid at universities,
    which pride themselves of “diversity”, by which
    they mean ethnic diversity. A nit-picker like me
    would argue that ideological diversity is more
    important – especially in a university setting –
    than ethnic diversity. When somebody speaks proudly
    of faculty diversity, try asking:

    “How many Conservatives?”
    “How many Republicans?”
    “How many Libertarians?”
    “How many practicing Christians?”
    “How many observant Jews?”
    etc.

    Thor

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  113. [what part of “i’m with them, but not of them” don’t you understand?]

    wait. wait. wait. aint that the rallying cry of SWPL?

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  114. @Dan Klose and Podolski are from Silesia. At least one of their parents had to be Germans to migrate to Germany before 1990. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_return#Germany

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  115. at least half the time SWPL is used as a euphamism for liberals. living in a conservative part of the country, this becomes confusing for me. the typical starbucks patron where i live is hardcore republican. roissy would probably fit in well with them, unless he were reading portrait of the artist as a young man, in which case he would be disdained as a SWPL faggot.

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  116. No shit Germans won they are uber Europeans. 1st in the EU meaning they are the master race in Europe. They will win the world cup.

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  117. Thor: “A nit-picker like me
    would argue that ideological diversity is more
    important – especially in a university setting –
    than ethnic diversity.”

    They don’t care about this. As Ludwig accurately stated, “diversity” simply means less whites. The goal of diversity is to reduce the percentage of whites, whether on a college campus or in the nation as a whole. It is also to marginalize, intimidate and shut up whatever whites remain. The anti-whites are salivating at the impending prospect of whites becoming a minority. They love seeing white decline.

    You seem to be treating diversity as if it’s an honest and legitimate goal, but it’s advocates are merely messing up the implementation. Nothing could be further from the truth. They know exactly what they are doing, at least the movers and shakers do.

    When a field becomes mostly non-white, the calls for diversity end. When whites are underrepresented in a given area, the calls for diversity end. Diversity applies only to white nations, institutions, and teams. This is not a failure or oversight, it is the entire point of the matter.

    As for ideological diversity, the Left has no intention of allowing it if they can avoid it. Instead, they pass speech codes, shut down speaking engagements that they oppose, and make death threats. They aren’t “stupid” for doing this. It’s simply how they operate, and it has proven quite effective against “conservative” (i.e. worthless) opposition.

    The point is, they aren’t messing up and making honest mistakes. They are instead successfully carrying out their agenda, that being to demonize, reduce and marginalize whites. There is no nit-picking with these people. You think you are being clever with them, but actually the reverse is true. They are the clever ones. They know exactly what they are doing, they understand perfectly well. Only politically correct conservatives, libertarians etc. are too dense to grasp what is going on.

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  118. funny how white people in america interchangeably think germans and english are both white. you may as well mix up the arabs and jews.

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  119. Yeap, the Germans are back! Altough I miss the old Midfield game they used to practice in the 70s and 80s. This team looks like a thunder. I am looking forward to watch a Netherlands-Germany final match.

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  120. Your post doesn’t really ring true. Under Dunga, Brasil wasn’t a flair team at all. They used their midfield as a big, physical barrier and scored their goals hitting teams on the counter, and used their size and height on set pieces. There was very, very little flair in their midfield (Ronaldinho wasn’t even included in the squad).

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  121. Thanks very much for taking the trouble to answer the nosey questions of this internet geek.

    [editor: with pleasuuuuuure.]

    I was genuinely curious about the SWPL thing but only teasing about the soul and soft underbelly evisceration would be way too intrusive. Yes, the bloviating did get a bit repetitive, for me too. I will stop pestering now.

    [just remember, i always get the last word.]

    I’m glad to hear the book is coming along well.

    [shakespeare seethed.]

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  122. on July 4, 2010 at 2:44 am ahappinessexperiment

    for those concerned: europe is reaching the same levels of immigration it had just prior to WWII. another holocaust is on the horizon. beware what you wish for.

    hate mongers like Roissy and Steve Sailer will be among those responsible.

    [editor: among those responsible for opening the borders to the world’s riff raff? wow, i am all powerful.]

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  123. Don’t watch sports. Who wants to be a spectator.

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  124. I disagree that people are choosing their rooting interests based upon race; it’s just that SWPLs tend to go “find themselves” in some countries more than others. As an advanced country with a high cost of living, with a language less frequently taught in the US, SWPLs don’t line up to study abroad in Berlin or Cologne. Any Spanish-speaking country with a decent city (nobody’s pulling for Uruguay, are they?) makes them swoon.

    As for the Germans themselves. it’s an open question how manly they remain after 65 years of war guilt. Seems a lot of German men sit down to piss these days.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/4193330/German-men-told-they-can-no-longer-stand-and-deliver.html

    The World Cup is kinda priceless for bringing out the silly musings of the SWPL. Just a few days ago, I listened to someone go on about the “athleticism” of the Ghana team. I wish I had said, “Yes, they’re all like that down there.”

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  125. During the game, the announcers came awfully close to HBD when they mentioned “Argentinean temperament” and “German efficiency” (direct quotes IIRC).

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  126. Mario- Don’t be so certain Germany will beat Spain, Spain is playing very well and won the European title a couple years back I believe.

    Someone above mentioned Turks…as an American living in Germany I can tell you, that especially in Bayern you will find a lot of non-PC sentiment towards Turks, especially if you are with company letting their hair down so to speak at a biergarten.

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  127. on July 4, 2010 at 4:49 am ExNewYorker

    Please Roissy, stick to gaming girls and social commentary, which you do quite well. Since football (soccer) is obviously something you know little about, you only play the fool trying to link it to your pet peeve of the day. Comment on whatever sissy sports, it’ll be wittier than this attempt.

    Any SWPL who watches the games (and they’ll watch, at least a little bit to keep up the SWPL cred), can obviously see that:
    1) Half the German team doesn’t look altogether German, and that the current team is the antithesis of the “teutonic efficiency” of even two years ago, and heck, the team plays like a South American team of the 70’s and 80’s.
    2) The Dutch team is quite dusky for a Dutch team, and several of the non-dusky Dutch are divers of theatrical skill exceeding even the “Latins” who didn’t get out of the first round.
    3) The Uruguayan team is whiter than half of New Jersey and they got through with some of the most bald-faced cheating in recent memory (admirably ballsy in that regard).
    4) The Spanish team has several players: Puyol, Silva, Villa and Ramos, who wouldn’t look out of place in a Mariachi band…

    And please, spare us the debate tactic of “but it’s the perception of the SWPLs that I’m arguing about”. It’s a weak comeback.

    [editor: actually, it was a good argument, which is why you have no answer for it.]

    Stick to your regular subjects.

    [you’ll read what i write about, and you’ll like it.]

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  128. Argentina isn’t as white as it’s claimed to be.

    http://racehist.blogspot.com/2009/08/latin-american-white.html

    “Amerindian haplogroups were most frequent in the north and south representing more than 60% of the sequences. A slightly different situation was observed in central Argentina where the Amerindian haplogroups represented less than 50%, and the European contribution was more relevant. [. . .] A minor contribution of African lineages was observed throughout the country.”

    “Regarding autosomal evidence of admixture, the relative European, native American, and West African genetic contributions to the gene pool of La Plata were estimated to be 67.55% (+/-2.7), 25.9% (+/-4.3), and 6.5% (+/-6.4), respectively.”

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  129. on July 4, 2010 at 7:21 am the realist

    Only an american could describe Germany’s 4-0 win as typical Teutonic effiiency…..did you watch the match?

    It’s was more like German Flash winning the day, this is a very young and different team from the german team of 1990 that beat argentina 1-0 via a penalty in the final and much different from the team that reached the final in 2002. The dutch are the only remaining team that can be described as efficient, maybe even spain and uruguay, but definately not Germany this time.

    Spain is the most homogenous team left in the competition and even they have ways of dividing and hating eachother. Basques, catalans, castillians etc

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  130. Indeed Germany seems like the more offensively explosive team, though Spain seems technically superior- their ball control is amazing, especially in that game against Portugal. Xavi is probably the best player on either team.

    Also Mueller not being able to play is a bummer.

    This will be a great semi-final game, no doubt.

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  131. @Ryder
    “Only politically correct conservatives, libertarians etc. are too dense to grasp what is going on.”

    OF COURSE I know all this about “diversity” being
    a fig leaf etc.

    My point was that asking questions about
    ideological diversity is way to unmask the
    libtard charade about diversity for what
    it is.

    Thor

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  132. Speaking of the ethnic composition of national teams, I read a while back about the situation in international ping pong. Many of the players at international competitions are Chinese, they say. The Polish team, the American team, etc, have Chinese players. Not 2nd generation Chinese citizens of those countries, but 1st generation Chinese who learned ping pong in China growing up, then emigrated to the West because China is still a shithole country. Chinese are happy to become citizens of Western countries.

    This has a depressing effect on the development of native ping pong players. They highlighted a young white American player, a great player by US standards, and the best of the current crop of American players, and how, in the final qualifying competitions before the big international competition, he just lost out to a somewhat older 1st generation Chinese guy who had recently become a US citizen.

    How can you get people to devote so much time to their sport when they know that in order to rise to the top levels in their own country, which in sport is the only thing that matters, they will have to out compete people from all over the world, including countries which have long traditions and intense training from an early age for their athletes.

    This is a problem for Americans in more important areas of life. We Americans, to get a job in America, because of our easy immigration standards, have to compete against the entire world for jobs right here in America. Whether you cut lawns for a living or solve differential equations or do organ transplantation or drive a truck, you are required to beat the foreign competition in both price and quality. Let’s not even talk about off-shoring.

    The exception of course is govt work. Our teachers union members don’t face any foreign competition, for example.

    It’s a real problem for American citizens.

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  133. @AHE
    ‘ …might as well mix. Up Arabs and Jews,

    A great deal of the worlds greatest sportsmen are Jewish. Schneider, Xavi hernandes, Lionel Messi , Valentino Rossi (Biker)etc, everywhere from tennis to motorsports, Even FIFA pres Sepp Blatter is Jewish. Jews are quite gifted individuals. Valentino Rossi in German is Valentine Roth. The colour on my 612 Scaglietti is Rosso Corsa.

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  134. on July 4, 2010 at 9:28 am Aussie Marko

    No I’m pretty sure Messi is of Italian origin. Nice try though.

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  135. Thor: “OF COURSE I know all this about “diversity” being
    a fig leaf etc.”

    If that’s the case, then by all means, word to the motherland. Perhaps my interpretation was skewed by an earlier debate between us in which, if memory serves, you downplayed the role of race. In any event, apologies for the misinterpretation.

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  136. @Aussie Marko

    That is the point, Through asimilation there was a decision to adapt. Blood is what I am talking, few of them are Observant, but still maintain lineage. Donovan, captain of USA is Jewish.Valentino Rossi Is also Italian but he has got Jewish Blood. Whether French, Italian, American, British that is all just citizenship, Blood is the final denominator,

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  137. Grampa,
    I’ve noticed that with even college level sports teams. The coaches can scout for players from other countries making it very hard for a talented local athlete to even make the team. A lot of very good local athletes end up choosing smaller schools or playing on the club teams.

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  138. ‘Latins = passionate alphas with flair.’

    In anglo culture in the past, latinos were seen as effeminate . I’m sure why this perception changed. Probably all those anglo girls swooning for Ricky Martin types(hehe)?

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  139. German player Thomas Muller said England lost because it had too many alpha males.

    Is there such a thing as too many alpha males?

    http://www.skysports.com/football/world-cup-2010/story/0,27032,12016_6238818,00.html

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  140. on July 4, 2010 at 11:40 am Gunslingergregi

    ””””’Ryder
    Thor: “A nit-picker like me
    would argue that ideological diversity is more
    important – especially in a university setting –
    than ethnic diversity.”

    They don’t care about this. As Ludwig accurately stated, “diversity” simply means less whites. The goal of diversity is to reduce the percentage of whites, whether on a college campus or in the nation as a whole. It is also to marginalize, intimidate and shut up whatever whites remain. The anti-whites are salivating at the impending prospect of whites becoming a minority. They love seeing white decline.
    ”””””””

    Well I beat the movers and shakers to the punch and live in a place where I am the only white boy. You know what there are a hell of a lot less rules and regulations. People get married young and just have kids without thinking about it. If someone wants to have a business they just do it and don’t need the mandatory two sinks and expensive crap. If someone wants a butcher shop they can open one. It will all become the same though as television works its magic into the human psyche though. Other than that not so bad being the only one. Unless yea they start hating whites and then yea I am the only one he he he
    It will be like the french in haiti when they were killed down to the last child.

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  141. Don’t Germans have an unusually high number of men who have poo fetishes and like to be domintated/fucked with dildos?

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  142. what does swpl mean? its been used extensively in these comments and i’m still no nearer to understanding what the f*** you guys are on about

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  143. “swpl” means stuff white people like.

    Its a subculture of people counter-signaling status to dissociate from social climbers.

    Here’s the blog:
    http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/

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  144. @ David
    It’s this really funny website as linked by OhioSlater, do have a look at the camping and black music posts. I didn’t realise they’d done a post on the world cup, but a couple of my friends were in washington dc recently and popped into a bar to watch a game and were surprised at the number of people watching it and were funnily supporting Ghana.

    Though apparently very enthusiastic, none of them knew *any* of the rules. Obviously my friends lied. Still, they got lots of drinks bought for them.

    ETA these were male friends before I get any flaming of all women being whores and taking drinks off men and all liars even about football rules, and taking drinks and not having sex heh.

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  145. on July 4, 2010 at 1:32 pm Thin-Skinned Novice Beta-Wanka

    @Thor

    Amen.

    For progressives, diversity is only skin deep.

    These are the same people complaining about Lookism and discrimination against the ugly, imploring us that what’s inside is what counts.

    Look inside and keep digging.

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  146. I wonder what our Grandfathers would think about all this exalting of the Germans.

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  147. @David
    I think the closest to SWPLers in England is ‘Guardian readers’, only these days less people read the Guardian and more people have some of those characteristics, e.g. the Times-reading 30 somethings who go to Glastonbury. To test how SWPL you are, which team did your friends switch their alliance to during the World Cup, more likely to be say Germany/Holland or Ghana/Brazil/Argentina?

    @OhioStater
    “German player Thomas Muller said England lost because it had too many alpha males. Is there such a thing as too many alpha males?”
    LOL at Wayne Rooney being an alpha male.

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  148. @ahappinessexperiment and Roissy

    “ahappinessexperiment
    in most countries the best soccer players are from lower class backgrounds (w obvious exceptions). in the US it takes money for children to play much soccer. inner city blacks tend toward basketball because, among other things, there’s usually a free court around.[editor: as a buddy of mine said, “for soccer, all you need is a ball and a dusty field.”]

    You don’t even need a dusty field, as proven by the many players who grew up on the council estates of England and HLMs of France. You don’t need money in any country, it’s not motor racing.

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  149. Off topic, but caught this movie on TV yesterday. Maureen O’Hara was a royal biatch until the Duke laid down the law and humiliated her in front of the whole town.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057298/

    After that, her gina tingles were causing earthquakes in town.

    In some ways it was a replay of The Quiet Man

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0045061/synopsis

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  150. @gig, Sad Brazilian, etc.: Como se diz “chupa-la e mantê sugar” em alemão?

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  151. on July 4, 2010 at 5:27 pm Original JB

    I played varsity soccer in HS (earning some minor all-county awards) and play basketball today.

    My observations:

    Soccer is indeed about endurance — especially for midfielders. The only reason I was successful(leading the team in scoring) was a) I played forward, b) had a rare killer instinct around the goal and c) my coach was a relatively nice guy who never benched me for slacking in returning on defense. I was also the slowest the guy on my team in pure sprints.

    These days I can play full court basketball for hours, while after 10 minutes of soccer I am dropping dead. There’s no stopping and resting. Endurance.

    When I tried out for soccer at my Div. III uni, I quickly realized that physical talent was simply better than ANYTHING I saw on the HS level. Those guys were bigger, taller and faster — but not necessarily more skilled than I.

    I agree with Roissy — if US focused on soccer they could put together a quality team of German-Americans alone.

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  152. @Lily … Agreed … soccer is boring to watch … I think I’d just as soon be waterboarded. But rugby and American football … yea.

    Disclosure … I’ve played all three … I stood in as a goalie a few times … but being a goalie is like playing right field … the ball comes your way every once and a while; played both tight end and defensive end in football; played 2nd row in rugby.

    As far as I’m concerned … soccer is a beta sport … rugby and football are more alpha-like.

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  153. @LoboSolo
    I don’t think football is boring to watch as a general rule, but the current England squad are frankly useless. And you’re right, rugby is more of a real alpha sport. I don’t know nearly enough about American football to comment.

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  154. on July 4, 2010 at 6:18 pm Cannon's Canon

    the us will never reach an elite level of soccer because of the life-work of the ultimate disingenuous white liberal… ted kennedy. title ix is a blatant offense to free markets and even rational praxeology. we will continue to restrict our talent pools and dilute our product as long as universities continue to punish men for enjoying sport.

    http://savingsports.blogspot.com/2010/06/soccer-opportunity-gap-in-pictures.html

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  155. Warning:

    Just got back from seeing Twilight. My daughter (28), wanted to go, and her husband refused to go. He saw the previous Twilight.

    This should be required viewing for all young men. Keep in mind this film is wildly popular among young women. If they have any illusions about the completely self-centered nature of female behavior, this film will help.

    Roissy might comment on how all the male leads are betas.

    Simply awful.

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  156. ” it’s time to reexamine the causal arrow. perhaps diversity is part of the cause of the natives’ fertility implosion.”

    While it would be nice to think so, as you could conceive of doing something about it, diversity doesn’t trouble Japan or Hong Kong, who have lower birth rates than Germany. Conversely, Malaysia is the most racially diverse place I’ve ever visited, and the Malays are set to outbreed the Indians and Chinese who live among them.

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  157. on July 4, 2010 at 7:04 pm AHE -ahappinessexperiment

    “the us will never reach an elite level of soccer because of the life-work of the ultimate disingenuous white liberal… ted kennedy. title ix”

    right, cause great soccer players come from colleges not from dusty fields and beaches

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  158. @Ohiostater
    ““swpl” means stuff white people like.

    Its a subculture of people counter-signaling status to dissociate from social climbers.”

    This does not and probably cannot work. People
    who make an issue of not being status climbers
    are just changing to another tree to climb.

    Some, even amongst themselves, think that nerds
    are not status-conscious. This is generally true
    if “status” is conventionally defined, to a large
    extent focussing on physical appearance.
    (Check any indoor shopping mall. In most cases,
    if you don’t count the food outlets, well over 90%
    of the square footage is dedicated to making people
    look (or smell) good. Problem is, this kind of
    status chasing is zero-sum, actually negative sum
    if you count the expense and effort going into it.)

    Nerds, as well as other subgroups, tend to form their
    own status hiearchies. Among nerds, popular
    items are
    “I am only X hops from the internet backbone!”
    “I can write a more clever commentary” (usually implied)
    “I can write a more clever algorithm” (often implied)
    but above all, the antithesis to the now somewhat
    senescent “bigger and better”, comes the nerd cry:
    “MINE IS SMALLER AND FASTER!”

    Thor

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  159. on July 4, 2010 at 7:32 pm AHE -ahappinessexperiment

    @Thor,

    you missed the part about “counter-signaling status”.

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  160. This World Cup thing has been absolutely fascinating to watch, due to everything it says about the food.

    It’s a rather curious event; every single impulse of the food’s reptilian part of their minuscule brain is put on display for everyone to see, a confrontation where the participants can sport a “No to racism!” sign just before its start, only to viciously try to destroy each other for precisely those reasons. Challenges and cries that in other settings would be deemed politically incorrect are thrown around with the glee of true liberation.

    It’s a form of ritualistic regression to tribal times, very interesting. Probably an important release valve to avoid the implosion of the so-called civilization. I would be wary of those who advice others not to watch or support these kinds of sporting events, who knows what could happen to the food’s brain without them.

    I should probably try to acquire some flags or distinctive colours of some of the teams. I can just see the food’s reaction.

    “That’s a Sarlacc! It’s dangerous!”

    “Dude, it’s wearing a canarinha! It’s one of us! Come on!”

    *Nom* *Nom*

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  161. @ Cannons cannon

    Thanks for the link. Interesting.

    For some reason I can’t fathom, football is really hard for girls in England, any who are good enough to play professionally (and don’t decide to pursue other work options instead) seem to tend to go the US (where ironically the men’s football is much worse than it is here leaving aside the current world cup).

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  162. In England, SWPLs generally don’t like football, or at least significantly less than the proles (read: ‘Wrong Sort of White People’ as per the nationalistic/bigoted/uncultured stereotype). The unspoken/subconscious reason is that they associate it with the Wrong Sort of White People and would feel uncomfortable in their presence, football chants not being known for their progressive slant, for example. Because they realise that prole culture is not progressive but don’t want to be perceived as classist, they keep quiet about their disdain.

    The general exception is international tournaments, perhaps in part for the opportunities to bloviate about diversity as mentioned, but also because there are higher stakes than club-level football, making for an admittedly greater spectacle. English SWPLs won’t openly support England too much as for every international tournament, the proles explode in a fit of national pride (a no-no, reasonable reservations about the proles’ interpretation of national culture aside). The team, much like their most fervent supporters, are largely alpha proles with crew cuts, which doesn’t exactly get SWPL juices flowing, despite at least 1/3 of the team being of non-white/mixed origins.

    Mind, I have a bit of an SWPL tendency of supporting the underdogs, but less on racial grounds and more out of wanting to see upsets and new winners. To counter that with a heretical HBD-ism, me and my old folks always support Holland after England get knocked out, my father doing so out of considering them to be most like us English, and my mother because of her partial Dutch ancestry.

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  163. on July 4, 2010 at 9:03 pm Original JB

    “Some, even amongst themselves, think that nerds
    are not status-conscious. This is generally true
    if “status” is conventionally defined, to a large
    extent focussing on physical appearance.”

    Yeah, that’s just ignorance.

    The whole premise of the open source bible The Cathedral and the Bazaar is that nerds will work for status instead of pay.

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  164. on July 4, 2010 at 9:06 pm Original JB

    “German player Thomas Muller said England lost because it had too many alpha males. Is there such a thing as too many alpha males”

    Yes. When team work is involved, five Michael Jordans doesn’t work too well. You need a Steve Kerr and a Will Perdue in the mix too.

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  165. Cyning,

    and i bet the english have a complete inability to ever root for germany, no?

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  166. unless of course it s against france. id bet even the swpl english proudly show their disdain for the french

    but today is the here where we are happy the fucking king of england isnt still telling us what to do

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  167. Diversity is pushed on to white countries by jews who want to alienate and weaken white males. Same thing with feminism, liberalism, secularism, materialism.They own the media and most of the US. It was easy for them because white males are naturally very passive and non confrontational. Do you see diversity pushed in even one none white country??

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  168. A US marine was trying to explain (ignorantly) about women’s rights to afghanistani army trainees. Their response? They just busted up laughing in his face. They had a hard time being convinced he was serious. He lost their attention and respect once they figured out he was for real. You have 14 yr old kids joining the taliban and herding sheep in the morning. In Langley Falls there are guys who operate drones from computers who have PTSD. He hasnt seen battle but he’s scarred. This is why the west is doomed

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  169. wright thanks

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  170. @informer

    Jews are the alpha race. quit whining and accept it betatard.

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  171. @AHE

    And by ‘Jews’ you mean the people who continue to worship a being that fails them time and time again only to supposedly test their loyalty, get exterminated by the millions and hide in attics like pussies?

    Oh, and if they’re so intelligent…why can’t they figure out that Mexicans and blacks don’t give a shit about Israel and that it won’t exist in a few decades?

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  172. @Paul, I am pretty confident about Germany will beat those Spaniards. Even more, I deeply desire Germany to beat them. Spain doesn’t deserve to be World Champion, Spanish League is a joke, only two teams out of twenty have a chance to win it. The rest of the teams are spectators. And yes, you are right, PC is not working very well these days in Germany. As far as I could feel from my business and leisure travels to Europe, Germans are reaching a point where they will say: ‘Enough is enough! We’ve already paid too much for WWII and for the building of the EU’. I guess they are right, they never were an old British style Empire, so, aside from allowing immigration for population replacement purposes, I guess they can solve the issue. UK and France are on another page. The millions of Blacks and Brown Algerians, Caribbeans, Hindus, Pakistanis and Africans that today crowd all the major cities of those two countries are nothing but the price to pay for having an Empire. And both France and England will pay it, oh, yes!

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  173. @ AHE

    Jews superior?? You guys have been kicked out of every country since ancient egypt. Not only will israel not exist in the next few decades but the billion moslems theyve been poking in the eye all these years are pretty much gonna wipe you guys out.

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  174. Dude when are you guys gonna discuss how our jew media is the real reason American women are such entitled, stuck up, cock carouseling whores?? We have whores birthing whores. Whatever happened to marrying a much younger virgin, making bank working 30 hrs a week, with a mistress on the side?

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  175. @stateside

    since when did we think mexicans and blacks care about israel? except of course mexican jews, ethiopians and rastafarians. u got ur information from where?

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  176. @informer

    if jews control the media maybe it is because they are so… what’s the term… oh yeah: alpha.

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  177. Informer, on the real, what’s going to wipe Israel out isn’t Muslims. It’s Americanization. Feminism and marriage 2.0 has hit this place, and the demographic nightmare has begun as of a few years ago.

    The army is getting shit on from the media and regular Israelis not taking enough care of the soldiers. They usually live at home until they’re done, and get family support because they make like $50 per month until they’re done. With so many moms ditching dad and vise versa, many have nowhere to go but to drama and hell when they get their maybe 2 days off every couple of weeks, and some every half year or more.

    Girls used to date soldiers, and even when there were some free loving sluts around in the 70’s, they’d shag them as a kind of public service. Now girls don’t want to date soldiers because they know they don’t have any money. This is how a lot of them get mixed up with older women who just use them until they age out of the frogginess that female ephebophiles like. Then they’re heartbroken and even more pissed off.

    Jews are humans like everybody else, and what you guys go through, Jewish guys go through too, only it’s kinda worse because they’re boxed into their ethnicity/religion. So because Jewish women have gone down the “black brick road”, Jewish guys are stuck if they want to have Jewish children.

    Some few just say “fuck it” and take love where they find it, but then they’re called traitors even though the original betrayal was by the women who treat them like little more than status validation, sperm donors, and child support on a stick.

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  178. @AHE
    They dont run the media because their alpha, they run it because they changed their names and tried to pass as goofy looking whites. Jews always disguise their identity. They climb to the top by lying, manipulating, and having no limits to their wickedness. There is NO ONE more anti-alpha than a jew. Most of them are timid and meek. They claim superiority to compensate for their HUGE inferiority complex. They are also extremely short and small. Sorry take your lies elsewhere

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  179. @AHE
    An alpha doesnt have to state the obvious fact that their an alpha. Only a fraud would shout it from the rooftops hoping to convince some naive folk of his lies. Does Bill Gates go around telling everyone that hes really rich? Nope. Point made

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  180. @nicole
    Um sorry I dont care.

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  181. Informer, how would that make them any different from most Europeans?

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  182. “They climb to the top by lying, manipulating, and having no limits to their wickedness.”

    yes, thats what being alpha means. or do u subscribe to the J5 theory that alpha is about being an off off vegas strip boxer?

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  183. Nicole, jews are not indo-european.

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  184. @nicole
    The only factor that separates them from europeans is the extent of their wickedness. Jews are just europeans but more diabolicial in their aims. They are cousins

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  185. @AHE
    That is not alpha. That is how uber bitches operate. Let me teach you jew boy, A man, an alpha is a masculine man. He beats all other man at everything because he is smarter and more capable. He doesnt follow doctrine to pull girls, its natural to him. Men mimick him, women want to fuck him. Doesnt sound like im describing a jew

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  186. Okay, so all of the top ranking have propensity for evil, but Jews are just better at it.

    Sounds alpha to me.

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  187. @informer,

    just like roissy and most of the commenters here, u live in an imaginary world full of imaginary demons.

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  188. Nicole shut the fuck up seriously. Being wicked is not alpha. Jews have been slaves and nomads for thousands of years. The last 50 years of prosperity hardly makes up for that. Arent you a black woman in israel?

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  189. @AHE
    If roissy and all the commentors on here have imaginary demons why are you on his site? Jews running the media is imaginary? Werent you saying they were alpha for dominating the US? Your not very good at lying which is surprising because its your people’s favorite past time

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  190. europe is now back to about the same levels of immigration that existed just prior WW2. i suspect stuff roissy people like will argue that it is different this time, that now the immigrants are more african and polish etc instead of germans in bohemia etc but as roissy has said it is the peception that matters.

    when spain cleansed itself of moors and jews in the 15th century was that positive or negative for spain?

    the typical steve sailer type argument i hear for why, say, mexican immigration into the US is a bad thing is because that ethnic group the least productive. but least productive isnt the same thing as nonproductive. productive is still productive. my mexican gardener and honduran maid serve a purpose, just like the polish plumber in london does.

    the jews were good for central europe and spain and they were kicked out by idiots who didnt know what was good for them.

    perception is reality and the idiotic isteve notion that africans are bad for europe is as fucking stupid as spain kicking out its africans 500 years ago.

    but those who dont remember history will be condemned to spending their time around people who wont shut the fuck up about it.

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  191. @ohiostater
    “German player Thomas Muller said England lost because it had too many alpha males.

    Is there such a thing as too many alpha males?”

    It depends on your definition of alphaness. If “alpha” is
    being all about show and display, not about
    substance and results, then, yes, a team of alphas will
    – at best – try to outshine each other, as opposed
    to playing as a team. The term “primadonna” pops
    into my mind, but of course it is the wrong gender
    – same principle though.

    Thor

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  192. i suspect stuff roissy people like will argue that it is different this time, that now the immigrants are more african

    Are today’s immigrants making hot daughters?

    when spain cleansed itself of moors and jews in the 15th century was that positive or negative for spain?

    Not sure about the Jews but I reckon that reversing Islamic encroachment into Europe was a good thing for Spain and for Europe.

    but least productive isnt the same thing as nonproductive. productive is still productive.

    Productive IQ economy productive IQ economy IQ. That’s all you fucking nerds talk about. Degenerate underdeveloped internet jabbering dorks.

    my mexican gardener and honduran maid serve a purpose,

    “My” Mexican gardener? I’m sure his US-born sons are gonna be “yours” too and they’ll garden for you wiht a beeeg smile on their servile illegal alien faces. Oh, wait, they won’t.

    the jews were good for central europe and spain and they were kicked out by idiots who didnt know what was good for them.

    Great way to win hearts and minds and not piss people off into evicting you. People LOVE LOVE LOVE beig told what’s good for them and being called idiots if they demure.

    perception is reality and the idiotic isteve notion that africans are bad for europe is as fucking stupid

    What’s your tingle for bringing more Africans to the West? you homoeroticise them or something?

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  193. @PA

    haha. once upon a time bringing more africans to the west was considered frightfully right wing. is it considered left wing now?

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  194. Sexy sounds just like barbbabbs but sexier

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  195. @AHE
    european men do not like the presence of african males in their countries regardless of whether they benefit society or not. It brings out the most timid in them, insecurities also

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  196. Once upon a time pieces of shit imported slave labor to profit on it and undercut their own uppity working classes. Today, pieces of shit — slave owners’ moral heirs — import cheap third world labor to profit on it and to undercut their own uppity working classes. That’s neither right wing nor left wing. It’s just greed.

    Where left wing comes in is that today, in democracies, imported third worlders, or at least their descendants, get to vote and they vote socialist. Plus, as a bonus, they destabilize their host societies, giving the government a reason to expand its power.

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  197. @informer

    i congratulate u for ur honest statement. but i doubt roissy or isteve would be so honest.

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  198. there is something tarded about Game people.

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  199. @AHE
    there is something tarded about most people. But im sure your in this group as well. Also most guys on here are learning game because they naturally have none and cant spark any interest in women. Game should be used on top notch girls only, not on bar skanks like most dudes on here plan on doing. Whores dont deserve the effort

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  200. This thread has gone waaaayy downhill. Editor alert, cleanup needed.

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  201. Looking thru classic Country videos and mourning the America that got outsourced, immigrated, fat-womaned, walmarted, stripmalled, deracinated and butthexed away.

    By the way, I’m looking at the face at Waylon’s face — haven’t seen a man who looks like this in a long time; not anyone under fifty anyway. Twinks and betas everywhere I look. Maybe there is something to it — soy, plastics, chemicals, whatever.

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  202. “perception is reality and the idiotic isteve notion that africans are bad for europe is as fucking stupid as spain kicking out its africans 500 years ago.”

    You’re right, AHE, Africans are clearly beneficial in white lands. The murders, rapes, transfer payments, wrecked schools, affirmative action, anti-white propaganda, loss of free speech, cultural degradation, and displacement? These merely add much needed flava.

    Diversity is our greatest strength, after all, and so I would suggest that all white lands (and only whites lands, as all non-white nations are sacrosanct and should be allowed to retain their ethnic majorities) immediately double their immigration quotas for non-whites, particularly Africans. We must have more of these cherished benefits, and reduce whites to minority status in their own lands ever more quickly. What’s a little rape and murder amongst multiculters? I’m sure the bitches deserved it, right?

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  203. PA: “Are today’s immigrants making hot daughters?”

    You know, that is quite true, though rarely do you hear people making the observation. In my metro area, we’ve been swamped by significant numbers of mestizos over the last decade or so. I do not exaggerate when I say that I have yet to see a pretty mestiza around here. It’s been years now, and nothing but a giant goose egg.

    That’s not to say that it would be o.k. even if there were lots of pretty senoritas, as of course my people have as much right to survive as any other, and should be able to control their own culture, institutions, and overall destiny. Not to mention that whites are capable of creating the prettiest girls on earth, and it would be a real tragedy to have that gene pool mixed out of existence – which is precisely our present course unless we turn things around.

    But I mean, damn, today’s non-white immigrants are just plain ugly as sin. Most of them didn’t just get hit with the ugly stick, rather it appears that they were savagely beaten by it.

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  204. on July 5, 2010 at 4:22 am Gunslingergregi

    ””””You’re right, AHE, Africans are clearly beneficial in white lands. The murders, rapes, transfer payments, wrecked schools, affirmative action, anti-white propaganda, loss of free speech, cultural degradation, and displacement? These merely add much needed flava. ””””’

    They do help in one way if people are content and happy they don’t work as hard. Hell they might even just kick back with family and their job is just to attend weddings of extended family every other day.

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  205. @AHE:

    regarding Spain’s Ferdinand and Isabella’s campaigns to rid Spain of Moors and Jews. These were costly campaigns and the economy suffered for it i the near term. Then they sent Christopher Columbus to the new world and became a world power and fabulously wealthy with all of that gold. Its hard to make the argument Spain suffered long for kicking out the Moors and the Jews. It was probably right to kick out the Moors. They were foreign invaders and overtly hostile to Christendom. The Jews were not such a problem and got screwed.

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  206. Maybe africans are just getting even for having their lands raped and denigrated. What better karma than coming over by the boat loads knocking up plenty of the local women all while living off the ethnic males tax payments. It truly is karma, no crime goes unpunished after all

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  207. @tyrone
    Your confused, jews were a bigger problem than the moors. Spain was just one of almost 100 nations that evicted jews. Its not possible to get screwed that many times unless you deserved it. And the moors lifted spain and most of europe out of the dark ages

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  208. Imagine the reversal. White people coming to africa, unwanted. Raping, stealing and denigrating society. Oh wait that happened lol. You reap what you sow

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  209. cute all those comments — so much fear in the US. Do you gus cry at night?

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  210. @ informer — so true.
    what will mess with peoples minds even more is that Africa will outgrow them in the next two decades

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  211. on July 5, 2010 at 6:45 am Gunslingergregi

    http://strangemaps.wordpress.com/2007/06/10/131-us-states-renamed-for-countries-with-similar-gdps/

    Wisconsin around the same gdp as South Africa (GDP #33 at $200 billion)

    From last check south africa 75 percent african gdp

    But yea nigeria gets almost 10 percent of gdp from foreign aid.

    Now if they get smart and create a nice safe haven for rich folk. Maybe something would change.

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  212. @Gunslinger
    Africa was colonized until recently. Colonization sets back nations centuries, look at China playing catch up still. Civilizations rise and fall. Europe was once in the same stage Africa is currently in, while Africa had civilizations. Shit changes very fast

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  213. Yes, Informer, I’m a Black woman living in Israel…non Jewish to boot. So as you can imagine, I have no particular love for Jews, except one in particular. Still, you can’t deny the fact that it took Jews to civilize the generic White folks in the U.S. Were it not for the Jews, you’d have killed everybody else.

    The world would be a big glowing ball.

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  214. @ informer — i addition africa was swamped with donations from govts and rocks stars alike. foreign aid is export aid really

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  215. going back to the black athlete comparison. basketball does require a lot of endurance and Wide Recievers have a fair amount of endurance. I believe there are many short American Athletes, both black and white who have no chance at ever making it the NFL or NBA, and if they do merely being role players who could be epic soccer players. Look at Nate Robinson 5-8, a back up. His height would not be an issue in soccer. I believe problems like this in the NFL will lead to more soccer playing youth http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5333971

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  216. Re: Ethnic cleansing.

    People should learn more history.

    If you want examples of ethnic cleansing, you don’t have to go back centuries. After WW II ethnic cleansing of the losers was common. Just ask the Germans.

    After WW I, Turkey transitioned from a multi-ethnic empire into a nationalist state. Did you know that Istanbul was largely a Greek city before WW I? Of course, there was a lot of blood shed (Euphemism for slaughter of the most despicable kind.), but, the Turks and Greeks actually exchanged about 700,000 to a million people (each) to end the inter-ethnic warfare. As a note of irony, the Turks lost their Empire because the Turkish Sultan jumped into WW I because he feared it would be over in a few weeks or months and he wanted to get a small slice of Russian territory before the war was over.

    BTW, such outbursts of ethnic/racial violence is a powerful argument in favor of a strong and secure central govt.

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  217. Because of Nicole’s spirited “defense” of the jews i have decided to save all the goyim the trouble of killing us this time and have constructed an oven in my backyard to jump into.

    thanks nicole

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  218. on July 5, 2010 at 11:05 am Markku Jantunen

    Status whoring citizen of the world SWPLs cry into their artisanal beers.

    I think most people who only drink tasteless mass marketed light lagers actually dislike beer and only drink it because it’s a cheap, traditional and widely available fermented alcoholic drink. Sometimes these people are suspicious of anyone who seems to actually enjoy the more tastier types of beer.

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  219. @informer
    Africa was colonized until recently. Colonization sets back nations centuries, look at China playing catch up still. Civilizations rise and fall. Europe was once in the same stage Africa is currently in, while Africa had civilizations. Shit changes very fast

    GROAN. Hard to prove whether colonization was
    good or bad for Africa.

    AS TO CHINA, however, the above is drivel. China,
    in the 1400s, had it all, and had all the resources
    and technology to become the world’s superpower.
    They had ships going regularly as far as East Africa,
    for example.

    BUT, the top ruling class figured (presumably
    correctly) that increasing foreign trade and
    increasing technology might de-stablize the
    social order. Ruling classes REALLY like stability,
    no surprise there.

    SO, to create stability, they shut down foreign
    trade, indeed foreign travel. Also, the game
    was rigged so technical innovation happened
    VERY slowly if at all. The system “worked” for
    the ruling class for more than 400 years.
    Foreigners were told that China did not need
    anything from abroad, they could manufacture
    anything they wanted, themselves. This was
    largely true, in the limited sense that if you are
    a ruler, and can set a 1000 coolies (yes, I know,
    the term is Indian, not Chinese) to make something,
    then technology is not important. So the
    “China” that did not want anything really meant
    “we the very small ruling class have no wants
    that cannot be supplied locally”.

    WESTERN intrusion, on this time scale, was a minor
    interlude. In the end, China had the bloodiest
    revolution (in sheer body count) that the world
    has ever seen, a record that will hopefully stand
    for a long time, about 50 million dead.

    SO THE SYSTEM worked for more than four centuries,
    at least for the rulers. And ended with a bang.

    @grampa
    “BTW, such outbursts of ethnic/racial violence is a powerful argument in favor of a strong and secure central govt.”

    Sometimes, but often the mass slaughter in either
    instigated or tacitly approved by the central government.
    E.g. the Russian pogroms, the Soviet labor camps
    (not primarily racial, but this was little consolation
    to the victims), Turkey wiping out Armenians etc.

    @Markku
    “I think most people who only drink tasteless mass marketed light lagers actually dislike beer and only drink it because it’s a cheap, traditional and widely available fermented alcoholic drink. Sometimes these people are suspicious of anyone who seems to actually enjoy the more tastier types of beer.”

    Spoken like a true Finn. I tend to agree.

    Thor

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  220. sorry, that was baroness pupu

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  221. Some Germans seem to take issue with your assessment, Roissy:

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,704362,00.html

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  222. @grampa

    Oh, as to central government preventing genocide,
    I forgot the granddaddy genocide, the Holocaust.
    But it was merely the largest flower in a putrid
    garden of government-sponsored genocide.

    BTW, you can add Serbia to the malfeasants,
    and I am sure others can come up with
    more examples.

    Thor

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  223. @Baroness Emma Magdolna Rozália Mária Jozefa Borbála “Pupu” Orczy:-

    Oh Anthony Andrews, sweet crush of my youff.

    I remember thinking at the young age of five that the Jane Seymour character was really Treating Him Very Badly. Oh, the bliss of all those wigs, gowns & of course the guillotine, particularly the splash of blood when the necks got cut off. I was allowed to stay up late especially.

    Also, his character had a teddy bear too in Brideshead Revisited. I felt we had Things in Common. Sadly, a romance betwen Anthony and my five year old self was not to be.

    Then of course there was also Jeremy Irons & (dear god, the excitement) Simon McCorquindale. A little girl was spoilt for choice in those days.

    @Sexy Pterodactyl:-
    I guess the unmentionables you refer to are those matching lace cuffs & collar then.

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  224. on July 5, 2010 at 12:34 pm Sir_Chancealot

    It’s amazing the amount of people on here that have near to ZERO reading comprehension. I don’t know how Roissy puts up with it, to be honest.

    Hey morons! Learn to read what the author is ACTUALLY SAYING, not what you HOPE/THINK/WISH they were saying.

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  225. O, darling sdaedalus,

    pupu has come to the conclusion that since both of us fancy the same type of men, we must suffer the happy fate of sharing.

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  226. That is very funny pupu, we will have to either
    (a) find a suitable candidate & join his harem (hope the other girls are nice though);
    (b) alternatively, set up a harem ourselves & select a number of interested males for admission.

    Option (b) would give us more to share, but maybe sharing is more meaningful when the quantity is less, the quality would have to be pretty high though to compensate.

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  227. Baroness Emma Magdolna Rozália Mária Jozefa Borbála “Pupu” Orczy:-

    Wow!

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  228. sdaedalus,

    given our geographical difference, sharing is totally feasible. you can have him in continental europe, and pupu north america. there is still plenty of territory left for other girls. honestly, north america is so large, pupu would have so much trouble taking care of it. she is prepared to be more provincial about it.

    it is hard to have global dominance over any man

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  229. I must say this Sexy Pterodactyl is making me swoon.

    I shall not dare address him directly though, and will modestly avert my eyes in his presence.

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  230. @pupu
    The best solution as you say is to have agreements for exclusive distribution of the preferred candidate’s favors parcelled out between us on a territorial basis.

    I’ll need to have the whole of the European Union though, exclusive distribution agreements limited to individual member states breaches Article 28 of the Treaty of Rome which doesn’t like partitioning of distribution agreements by reference to national markets.

    And then the battle of who will get more sexytime will begin, no doubt all the stops will be pulled out in terms of attempts to lure him to our respective territories. Although Europe lacks some of the SWPL lifestyle accoutrements, it does have some rather nice chateaux.

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  231. sdaedalus,

    before we get ahead of ourselves, let us search for the target first. and such venture should not be conducted under the public eye. it is one thing that we could agree on sharing, others may decide to compete!

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  232. Yes, and as far as I am aware EU law countenances less restriction on freedom of competition than the US, I am more vunerable than you in this regard. I agree that our search should be conducted in strictest confidence.

    PS: aren’t you already tied into an exclusive purchasing agreement with one of the owners of this blog though?

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  233. Pupu would be oil on the water of any harem.

    It is rare to find a woman who pulls off intelligence without stridence or banality.

    Fie Pupu, for awakening a hunger so improbable to satisfy.

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  234. […] THE DEVIL U LUV: [totally straight face] Hm, you know, I agree. I like the way you guys think for yourselves. Not many people are cool enough to root for a foreign country. […]

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  235. Good luck, girls.

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  236. on July 5, 2010 at 3:21 pm bored by typical chatter

    The results of most sports events could be reported in these terms:
    “A ball got moved around.”
    YAWN.

    Being bombarded by advertising has brainwashed many of us into being spectators and collectors, far more than we are participants and creators.
    That’s far more profitable for the commercial entities, which inundate you with advertising which keeps telling you that bliss is found through acquisition, consumption, and liesure, when actually that emphasis is just a treadmill that never quite lets you arrive at true fulfillment.

    Fixation on sports seems to be about like having an ongoing fascination with the tabloid news about ‘celebrities’. That’s someone else’s life, not yours.
    Why care so much what other people did?

    Focusing so much on distant people is self-demeaning; a statement that you & your life aren’t much, and won’t be.
    The pleasure of living vicariously is okay if it is kept in proportion (minimal), but unfortunately it seems to be a growing epidemic, way out of balance with living your own life directly, with optimism and risk-taking.

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  237. I’m glad to see we’re working it all out on the soccer field. And not the battlefield.

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  238. cry into their artisanal beers.

    I am proud to say that the worst thing about being knocked out of the world cup is the loss of the excuse to leave work at lunchtime and get drunk in the afternoon.

    besides that, what´s wrong with artisanal beers?

    I laugh. It’s also nice to see a European team that actually looks European (hi, France!)

    I care a LOT more about European – female – fans that look European.

    I wonder how good the USA would do if we had our best athletes playing soccer instead of baseball, basketball and football? I bet we would rule FIFA like the petulant peasant province it is

    Yeah. Just like you do with volleyball. Or basketball, where the USA stopped sending the dream teams to international competitions once they started being beaten by tiny nations with funny names and lots of hot chicks who presume being independent from Russia in Eastern Europe

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  239. Polymath

    Good luck, girls.

    Thank you, Polymath.

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  240. Dana, I’ll bring the hummus.

    Seriously though, every culture has its nice and its scary bits. Nature of the beast. So I can’t really defend any culture. I can however, point out the positives and negatives in the interplay between cultures, and White American culture has been benefitted by the influence of Jews, more than its been harmed by it.

    Though Jews may be heavy on the left, without them Whites would be too heavy on the right without the benefit, like right wing Europeans have, of an actual cultural identity for the left to have to struggle to undermine.

    Now that we’re pressed, and Americans with sense do have to form a culture independent of corprorate herding propaganda, perhaps we’ll give the far left a run for their money. There are some advantages to being a bit generic. One is that you can make something new.

    I’ve been turning over an updated “rape of the Sabine women” scenario in my mind…a speech or series of essays or films that might convince women to wake up.

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  241. on July 5, 2010 at 4:54 pm Blessent mon coeur

    “SWPLs cry into their artisanal beers.”

    Malbecs on that particular occasion?

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  242. on July 5, 2010 at 4:55 pm Original JB

    “Or basketball, where the USA stopped sending the dream teams to international competitions once they started being beaten by tiny nations with funny names and lots of hot chicks who presume being independent from Russia in Eastern Europe”

    What are you talking about?

    The problem with the beaten Dream Team was they didn’t take the tournament seriously, didn’t practice and had mediocre coaching. That was rectified in the last Olympics with the Dreamest Team since Jordan-Barkley-Stockton days. LeBron-Kobe-Wade? Hello?

    Let’s face it — if the US wants to win something, wants to take it seriously, there isn’t a collection of Euroweenies that can stop them.

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  243. What are you talking about?

    About gnomes and elfs.

    Seriously, the US freaked out so hard about losing in men´s basketball in the Atlanta Olympics that they asked all their NBA players to play in the official team. They won handily in 1992 and 1996.

    Then in 2000 the Dream Team, which despised the Olympics in public while playing with all their hearts during the games, was almost beaten by mighty Lithuania, in a 85×83 game

    Never again the US got the courage to put the Dream team in the field again, because they feared that after 3 olympics the rest of the world had got at their level.

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  244. on July 5, 2010 at 5:55 pm Original JB

    “Never again the US got the courage to put the Dream team in the field again, because they feared that after 3 olympics the rest of the world had got at their level.”

    I don’t know what you mean by “Dream Team” in this context.

    Jordan retired in 1999. Stockton and Malone were on the downwards trajectory of their career. Clyde Drexler was long retired. There wasn’t the same Dream Team in 2000 because those guys were retired or old.

    If by “Dream Team” you mean the best pros available, I ask again: wtf are you talking about? 2008 Olympics Team: Kobe, LeBron, Dwayne Wade, Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Chris Bosh, et al.

    Probably the best collection of pros since the original Dream Team. And they kicked ass convincingly.

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  245. I doesn´t change that the invincible aura of the dream team was cracked by Lithuania in 2000, then shattered in 2004.

    Given that soccer is much more random, which means it is much more difficult for the best team to win, then Roissy´s view that America could dominate soccer as it dominates basketball becomes harder to swallow

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  246. Thor: “Africa was colonized until recently. Colonization sets back nations centuries, look at China playing catch up still. Civilizations rise and fall. Europe was once in the same stage Africa is currently in, while Africa had civilizations. Shit changes very fast”

    What, were they “set back” to BEFORE the Stone Age? Come on.

    The reality is that civilization and IQ track quite well (not perfectly, as there are other factors), and a large measure of IQ is genetic. Of course, a high IQ country is more than capable of screwing itself over royally (adopting communism, or something to that effect), but so long as it doesn’t undermine its native intelligence, it retains the raw potential to bounce back. If, on the other hand, it lowers its intelligence level, then there may be no coming back.

    Some people you can literally nuke, and they quickly recover. See Hiroshima, a thriving city today. Some people you can give a beautiful city in turnkey condition to, and they will simply destroy it. See Detroit.

    Some people always need excuses. Others can be literally firebombed, but never seem to need explanations for failure.

    People aren’t interchangeable. Neither are races or cultures. Sweeping generalizations, typically about the distant and difficult to verify past – vague Europe was like Africa but Africa was like Europe type nonsense – is not a substitute for reality.

    You are right about one thing, though, in that things can change fast. The biggest change is going to be the destruction of the West (and hopefully the rebirth of same, this time on a sounder foundation), precisely because it has followed the “race doesn’t matter” cult.

    “Race Doesn’t Matter” is, more or less, the communism of our age, a belief system completely at odds with truth and reality. In fact, a belief system so opposed to reality that it has to suppress free speech in order to function. It’s consequences for those nations that have been foolish enough to adopt it are likely to be just as severe.

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  247. “Race doesn’t matter” is promoted because it doesn’t matter for the intelligent, relatively independent thinking people. We need the rest of you not to stand in our way, and for a long time, the lot of you were, and still are in some places. It’s a way to get you people to not kill us off with as great a frequency, so on the positive side, we can get on with the business of keeping you from blowing up the world, and on the negative, we can compell you to kill people who get in the way of those of us who’ve gone cannibal and use you as what basically amounts to slaves.

    At the same time, race is a tool to keep you poor saps divided and thinking that if only you could close yourselves off in a safe corner, you could escape your slavery.

    You won’t. For as long as there are humans, there will be social hierarchy. There is no guarantee that if you go to your little White ethnostate, you won’t be in as bad or worse condition than you are now. Want an example? Russia.

    Plenty of poor White people there, and not a Black person to be found from apartment complex organizer to prime minister. Abortions are also very frequent there. Each one is a vote of no confidence.

    …and don’t worry, I tell Black folks who talk the same crap the same thing.

    An ethnicity cannot be manufactured. If the U.S. is not doing it for you then go to your home country, and fix whatever is wrong there. You don’t need a White ethnostate. You need to go home.

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  248. Nicole, Ryder is criticizing out grotesque and criminal post-60 political arrangement and you’re responding with the language of psychotherapy. You are not responding to him, but to an imaginary character.

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  249. PA, I’m just explaining the psychology behind the politics just in case there is a small chance Ryder can figure out why his pipe dream is just that.

    Even if they do manage to make it happen, the rich will still be rich, and the poor will still be poor, and the middle class will still be tools of the rich. That’s just how the world works no matter where you go.

    …and some of the rich are rich because they are able to think out of the box, or descendants of people who did, and likely share similar outlier traits. ALL of the poor and middle class who rise to the level of status the rich are born into are independents. In order to raise one’s status, one cannot be inhibited by the same follower mentality as their peers.

    Integration and affirmative action has done nothing good for Black, Hispanic, or Asian people in general. Simply enforcing “separate but equal” with more consistency would have done just as much. As an example in Israel, Arabs actually demanded the option to go to separate public schools.

    Integration has however, done a lot for politicians who want to be viewed as humane despite their being funded by despots, and for the outliers and “cream of the crop” of non White ethnicities.

    People are going to do what they’re genetically predisposed to and culturally supported in doing. Not an ‘nth more. So regular folk of one ethnicity, so long as their violence is kept in check, are no real threat to another.

    So who cares about the propaganda? The only people it’s doing any good for are the people predisposed to succeed anyway. It’s just bettering the odds for them. Nobody else will make use of the “freedoms” anyway. So it’s pointless to get ones panties in a knot over it until we get into immigration of people who refuse to assimilate.

    As Americans, our nationality should come before our ethnicity. Regardless of one’s race, IQ, or income, one should strive to be a good citizen, and part of that is being able to stand up to the government when it’s steering us in a bad direction. People who cordon themselves off into one loosely defined ethnic corner are missing the point, aside of mostly in the wrong country. If they’re not assimilated, then they are a foreign enemy as much as an illegal Mexican immigrant.

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  250. @Ryder

    “Thor: “Africa was colonized until recently. Colonization sets back nations centuries, look at China playing catch up still. Civilizations rise and fall. Europe was once in the same stage Africa is currently in, while Africa had civilizations. Shit changes very fast””

    OOPS, I missed putting in the quote marks last time.
    “Informer” wrote that and I was quoting him, without
    signalling any kind of agreement.

    Thor

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  251. RE:”[editor: that’s probably true, although soccer is more of an endurance sport,”

    It’s a game of skill, also America will never be any good at footie until you realise collage based sports system doesn’t work with football.

    Interesting article here about Dutch system versus your system;

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/06/magazine/06Soccer-t.html?_r=1&th&emc=th

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  252. “Africa was colonized until recently. Colonization sets back nations centuries, look at China playing catch up still. Civilizations rise and fall. Europe was once in the same stage Africa is currently in, while Africa had civilizations. Shit changes very fast””

    If you amazed about how fast shit changes, you will be startled with the fastness it can be written in blog posts

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  253. on July 6, 2010 at 8:10 am gunslingergregi

    lol gig

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  254. @ Dan when one does not have an “umlaut” ueber would in fact be the correct way to spell what we are looking for.

    Nicole: Wake up please.

    @ Alles (jeje): Africa has never been much in terms of advanced thinking (no real written history at all for starters) and well you simply cannot attempt to blame European colonies of years past for all of the worlds problems.

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  255. “@ Dan when one does not have an “umlaut” ueber would in fact be the correct way to spell what we are looking for.”

    If you have a Microsoft system, you can generate
    all your umlauts at will (check “charmap”).

    For example, über can be generated by holding
    ALT and typing 0252 on the number pad. Same for
    various accent marks, umlauts etc. Even ñ is easy,
    0241. And I really should sign off as

    Þor

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  256. There is a far simpler solution.

    Just google uber with an umlaut & cut and paste.

    The umlaut transfers with the rest of the word, it is like magic.

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  257. germany is viewed as boring white guys, while argentina is seen as a team of macho latin lovers

    Those of us “in the know” are aware that it’s exactly the other way around.

    I’m practically deaf now, as my husband and mother nearly blew out my eardrums this weekend chanting, “Deutschland! Deutschland! Deutschland!”

    As for the “foreign” players on the Fußballnationalmannschaft, there is the curious case of the Ghanian brothers Boateng, one who played for Ghana, and the other plays for Germany. The Ghanian player is the one who injured Ballack, and he’s being villified as a traitor in the German media.

    You have to be a German citizen to play for the German team. The Boateng’s have a German mother and are reportedly related to Helmut Rahn. Many of the darker German players (Aogo, Boateng, Khedira, Gomez) are half-German by blood. Some of the polish/eastern players are actually ethnic Germans (like Klose). And Cacau is a devout Christian, who has been living in Germany since he was 18, is married to a German woman, and has German children.

    It is not the same situation with the French players, many of whom are Muslims, and seem to be little more than football mercenaries. I think there is a difference, and one can see it in the quality of the play. The German team is a real team, the French team is too busy fighting amongst itself to get anything done.

    Germany will win, of course. Even without Ballack, we have the best-looking players and the best-looking fans. That has to count for something.


    Vierundfünfzig, vierundsiebzig,
    neunzig, zweitausendzehn,
    ja so stimmen wir alle ein,
    mit dem Herz in der Hand
    und der Leidenschaft im Bein
    werden wir Weltmeister sein.

    Deutschland! Deutschland! Deutschland!

    🙂 I loved this post. Thank you!

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  258. @sdaedalus
    “There is a far simpler solution.

    Just google uber with an umlaut & cut and paste.”

    Hardly simple. Maybe if you only do this stuff once a year.

    Ohterwise, look at charmap. As an alternative to pushing
    ALT and a number (the preceding zero is important and
    has to do with path dependency) you can pick the desired
    characters right of charmap. LOTS of fun stuff including
    €, ¥, £ and things like the important © if you want to
    legally protect anything you write.

    I don’t do UNIX, but rest assured that there is a way
    in UNIX systems also.

    Þor

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  259. Thanks Thor, this is usefut.

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  260. useful, dammit

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  261. on July 6, 2010 at 4:44 pm bored by typical chatter

    You twits disappoint me.
    Here I introduce a rich NEW topic, open for insightful group discussion, but no one wants to diverge from the herd, yammering on endlessly about the same old same old same old.

    So many know-it-alls here. So much compensatory posturing. Oh-so-impressive. YAWNNNN.

    For many commenters here (like on other website comment threads), the actual prevailing currency of value exchange is the warm fuzzy glow of exchanging mutual recognition (validation) with other internet buddies, rather than the putatively primary value of reading interesting observations which stimulate the intellect.

    Carry on, herd members.

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  262. @Bored by Typical Chatter

    In fairness, the thread was dying when you put up your comment and there are so many comments it could easily be overlooked.

    I think you make a very good point about living vicariously. This is what people do now. To some extent all of us commenting here are doing that. Imo it is a bit of a cop-out. It extends beyond sports into life generally btw. The whole celebrity obsession thing is living vicariously taken to extremes. Part of the problem is limited leisure time (living vicariously takes less energy). Feelings of inadequacy are another contributing factor. Then there is the voyeur element.

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  263. @ Thor and others:

    The addition of the “e” to the “o” in place of an umlaut with the o or e or a is acceptable in handwritten German (who hand writes anymore hahah) but its acceptable by hand written standards as well as typed.

    Anyhow I dig this post, as it obviosly rattled a few cages.

    @sdaedalus : You are right on, this fucked up modern grass is greener and cleaner on the other side of the glam hollywood fence, to me ties in clearly with the SWPL obsession of foreign “englightenment” and coolness. It is one thing to enjoy things for what they are, but when a person’s life is so hollow and boring they need to indentify with something they wish they could be, its truly sad.

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  264. Nicole: “An ethnicity cannot be manufactured. If the U.S. is not doing it for you then go to your home country, and fix whatever is wrong there. You don’t need a White ethnostate. You need to go home.”

    Says the flea living on a cat. Nicole, for your information, my ancestors founded this country. I am home.

    You are welcome to pursue your multicult fantasies in some land or another, and I will wish you all the best. But you are not free to swamp all of our lands with non-white immigration and forcible integration. It’s not just America that is being destroyed, it’s white land after white land, and ONLY white lands – and Tibet. That is genocide by another name and, corny though it may seem, I feel somewhat duty bound to resist, at least enough to put up a post or two.

    Why do you need to swarm, like fleas on a cat, every white land and ONLY white lands? I know the answer. Do you?

    Flea on a Cat: “You won’t. For as long as there are humans, there will be social hierarchy. There is no guarantee that if you go to your little White ethnostate, you won’t be in as bad or worse condition than you are now. Want an example? Russia.”

    Yeah, great example Nicole. Point to a country that was wrecked by communism (which also spouted the “race doesn’t matter” meme – your meme, certainly not mine). The great peoples of Eastern Europe will rebound in time, so long as they do not make the fatal mistake of allowing in huge numbers of non-European immigrants. Only one thing truly prevents recovery: genocide.

    At a minimum, a white ethnostate would spare enormous numbers of whites the ravages of murder, rape and cultural degradation inflicted by your people. That’s a good start. Definitely something to work with.

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  265. “The great peoples of Eastern Europe will rebound in time, so long as they do not make the fatal mistake of allowing in huge numbers of non-European immigrants. Only one thing truly prevents recovery: genocide.”

    They already have rebounded and non-European immigrants have begun to flood Eastern Europe. The only things that are saving us from a veritable deluge are our difficult Slavic languages and our healthy xenophobia. But the former isn’t a great enough barrier and the latter is slowly dwindling (thanks to our multicult governments and media).

    How many Eastern Europeans do you see studying in or moving to Africa or India? Zero. I wish I could invert that sentence and be able to say the same thing. Alas, that is not to be.

    Europeans make Europe. Africans make Africa. Asians make Asia. If you import a 100 million Africans into Europe, it will cease being Europe and become Africa, with a malnourished, impoverished, oppressed populace, roving gangs of cannibals and rapists and murderers, and a corrupt, untouchable dictatorship overlooking it all. And that’s the idea.

    Race is not a social construct. Culture is a racial construct.

    And I’ll just add that sub-Saharan Africans had thousands of years to create a civilization before the arrival of Evil Whitey, yet they weren’t even able to invent the wheel.

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  266. on July 7, 2010 at 4:25 pm Futbol Luva

    Title of post is incorrect, should read:

    “TEUTONIC INEFFICIENCY LOSES TO LATIN FLASH”

    Spain 1-0 Germany

    GOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLL!!

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  267. (This post certified gig bait.)

    Spain 1×0 Germany.

    It seems that I wasn´t the only baited. From now until the finals, I will sign “Puyol”

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  268. Presumably, the Teutons will have their revenge over the Latins when Holland plays Spain on Sunday. But really, who cares?

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  269. Blood and politics would make me choose Spain. Politics because it is, together with Italy, the last European team with zero multiculturalism.

    But the irony of having the least multicultural Dutch team since 1978 winning the World Cup in South Africa, of all places, is too good to be missed

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  270. on July 8, 2010 at 4:20 pm bored by typical chatter

    Sdaedalus,

    (WARNING: Sincerity Alert)

    You are such a sweetheart.
    I read your confession of frequent despair on another thread, so I want to tell you something, in case you didn’t know it already:

    Remaining an open-hearted, sweet, loving person (despite experience over the years) is a form of wealth and a form of victory all by itself, regardless of how others respond to you (or don’t respond). Somewhat like having a great capacity to appreciate how things are, and having a strong tendency to do so — a form of true wealth; one of the best ways in which one may be wealthy.
    All best wishes to you, S.

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  271. @Bored

    Thank you. That is exceptionally kind of you to say.

    I do feel a little bit guilty though, for having failed to adequately portray my flawed and cranky disposition. Although I do not usually bite, I can bark on occasion and, as you know if you have read my tales of woe, I can whine for Ireland.

    I have managed to retain my sense of humor though, which probably is a help.

    Thanks again for your kind comments.

    I agree with you about the pernicious influence of modern advertising (particularly the more subtle kind) & living vicariously.

    I would say though, that living vicariously is not a completely new phenomenon, people have always lived vicariously to some extent, the whole nobility/royalty system worked to some extent because of the vicarious living element, it is important to the survival of any hierarchy.

    But I think it has reached new heights today, which is ironic, because more people have more opportunities open to them to experience life themselves than at any other time.

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  272. on July 8, 2010 at 7:10 pm bored by typical chatter

    Sdaedalus,

    You are most welcome.

    A sense of humor (“probably a help”) is vital, as it is based on perspective, which is a key element of perception, which is a big percentage of experience.
    ie, There is usually more than one legitimate way to view a reality, so it’s critical to choose a view that enables you to deal with reality from a position of strength, joy, optimism, etc. (Please pardon my pendantry.)

    You make good points about living vicariously being an old phenomenon, which has grown out of proportion lately, despite increasing opportunity for varied and vivid direct experiences.

    Funny you mentioned the old nobility/royalty scenario; I had just been thinking that the common obsession with endless details about professional sports today is about like long ago peasants speculating on what the king will have for dessert tonight. People preoccuppied with being spectators don’t see how they are wasting the chance to live more deeply & directly.

    Like you noted previously, living vicariously takes less energy or time, making it a more seductive option (in a busy, tired lifestyle). However, people forget how much joy/satisfaction they can get out of doing something on a very modest level, like a beginner playing very simple piano music. That common forgetting is a sad loss (IMO).
    Seems to me we get taught to feel ashamed of doing anything less than impressively. What nonsense.

    I understand risk aversion. Too bad we are not taught to remember that risk is linked with excitement and the thrill of victory. I used to work in a bar where men would watch sports on TV, yelling excitedly at the TV, as if they were participating, sharing the consequences. I understand the common need to accept a dull job and to avoid risks in 90% of your life, but I wished these guys would just go out and find some fairly safe activity that would give them (directly) the same sense of risk and audacity and triumph which they derived indirectly from watching other men doing something on TV. A ball got moved around. Yay.

    Good golly I didn’t anticipate being so verbose.
    Anyway S., nice chatting with you Lass.

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  273. Lovely talking to you too.

    I don’t have much to add to this other than that a certain degree of living vicariously is not bad, it is possible to learn for instance from other people’s mistakes, but the difficulty is when it is taken to extremes, I learnt to read very young and consequently lived largely in the imagination for most of my life and I do feel that I have missed out on a lot in many ways, it would have been healthier to have a balance.

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  274. SD-

    “I learnt to read very young and consequently lived largely in the imagination for most of my life and I do feel that I have missed out on a lot in many ways, it would have been healthier to have a balance.”

    –somehow I suspected this about you when we first began emailing each other. All the more reason I should come over for a visit. A mistake or two has been made for sure, however balance of mind (imagination/creativity) and action (living life, doing) is just what I’ve been up to the last twenty years or so. We could have some fun you and I. 😉

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  275. on July 10, 2010 at 5:11 pm Cannon's Canon

    i watched the third place game in italian on ‘rai sport’ (germany 3 uruguay 2)

    the post-game analysis was fascinating. the five white italian men could not stop marveling at germany’s splendid diversity in their squad. they were convinced that this was the overwhelming cause of the team’s success and went down the list of every german player with foreign ties.

    their conclusion was predictable yet flabbergasting nonetheless. italy’s team failed because they are not multi-ethnic enough. the five white italian men lamented particularly the omissions of balotelli and amauri by their coach.

    i wonder which of them would volunteer to step down so they might diversify their discussion group.

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  276. Fuck everything I wrote before

    Fuerza Espana!!!

    [editor: help me out here gig. i need to know who to root for.

    spain – beautiful babes
    holland – familial fondness

    spain – barcelona
    holland – amsterdam

    spain – swarthiness
    holland – height

    spain – bulls
    holland – pot

    spain – smartly kicked out the moors
    holland – smartly avoided protracted confrontation with the nazis

    spain – melodic language
    holland – harmonic engineering

    tough call!]

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  277. on July 11, 2010 at 1:38 pm Cannon's Canon

    HUP NED

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  278. And Spain wins!

    Latin Flash smothered teutonic efficiency.

    hahahahahahahaha

    [editor: another thrilling soccer game. nil-nil for 119 minutes.]

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  279. Thats why its exciting… scoring a goal is never a trivial thing.

    😉

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  280. Now that the Teutonic world woke up to the harsh reality that all the world cups in the last 20 years and 8 of the last 9 cups were won by Latin Countries….

    can’t the Germans and the Dutch come up with a credible plan to pay the Spanish debt??

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  281. Maybe sports teams win because of their TALENT and not their skin color???

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  282. editor: help me out here gig. i need to know who to root for.

    that´s not the correct mindset. World Cups turn women on. And they also serve as excuses to leave work/school earlier. Living in the USA as you do, you have nothing of that.

    SO the question about who to root for is not important. You support the team who gives you excuse to leave work early. Take me, for example. Brazil played CHile on a thursday, and the place where I “saw” the game had probably the greatest concentration of hot girls I have seen in the year so far. I wrote “saw” because I didn´t see any of the goals, nor did I pay any attention to the game at all.

    The worst thing about being knocekd out by Holland is that it stopped us from playing one more time in a weekday. The semifinals were scheduled for a Tuesday, 3:30 PM.

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  283. The Spanish team had an all white 100% European team. Half of the Spanish players where actually lighter in Skin color than the German players.

    Spanish people are white, they are European. I guess its the “romance” language that makes them seem somehow more interesting or something?

    Why are we even talking about this?

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  284. on July 13, 2010 at 3:16 pm Portuguese guy

    Yes the Spanish team was the whiter of Western Europe.
    Yes, they won not only because of that but the absense of multiculturalism also helped.

    Although of the normal starting eleven, six were Catalans two were Castillans, one from Northern Spain and another one from Southern Spain.

    Loved to see how Puyol pulled out a Catalan flag even before any Spanish flag was picked up by any player.

    But it has two non whites, that team:

    David Silva, which is mixed with Asians.
    And Jesus Navas, which is gypsy. Although Jesus Navas is rather white and even has blue eyes and stuff.

    P.S. – Argentina’s and Uruguay’s team were just about 50 to 60% white. The others were mostly light skinned mestizos like Suárez in Uruguay or Tévez in Argentina.

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  285. on July 13, 2010 at 3:20 pm Portuguese guy

    P.S. The last greatest soccer competitions were won by very white teams:

    2010 – white Spain;
    2008 (euro) – white Spain
    2006 – white Italy (against Afroance)
    2004 (euro) – white Greece
    2002 – multicultural Brazil (who cares, that world cup sucked, Turkey and South Korea mananged to get into the last four)

    2000 – Half non white France.

    So, the last “multicultural team” (multiculturalism in Brazil is normal and not artificial) to win was ten years ago, and still they don’t give multiculturalism away.

    Russia made it up to the final of the Euro 2008 championship. When the Eastern European Teams like Greece or Russia start to pop in, the white dominance in World Cups will be even greater.

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  286. on July 13, 2010 at 9:51 pm Blessent mon coeur

    Don’t know where to put this.

    Thought he showed a little vulnerability game. Her turn-away didn’t make me happy for their future. But maybe she’s just not into PDA, or she’s old school Spanish and wants the ring before total commitment, or….

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