Study: Power Poses Can Change Your Behavior

More evidence emerges that the game principle of “fake it till you make it” has real world validity.

How your posture might make you more likely to cheat, steal, and commit traffic violations.

Here, the researchers tested whether a person’s posture — specifically, how “expansive”, or spread out, it is — affects their willingness to perform dishonest acts. Turns out that tricking people into adopting an expansive body position make them more willing to steal money, cheat on a test, and even commit traffic violations in a driving simulation.  Not only that, but cars with wider seats were more likely to be found illegally parked on the streets of New York City. The authors hypothesize that the effects they see are due to the expansive body position making people feel more powerful — and, as we know, powerful people tend to be both dishonest and hypocritical.

And sexy to the ladies. mrowr.

Yes, adopting “alpha male” power poses will actually make you FEEL more alpha and ALTER your behavior, even your hormonal profile, so that it is aligned more closely with the behavior of rubber-stamped alpha males.

In short, faking the alpha male demeanor turns you into a living, breathing alpha male. It’s more precise to say that you should “fake it till you create it”. Incorporating game concepts into your life will create an alpha male version of yourself. If you’re already alpha, it’ll make you alpha-ier.

The first three experiments showed that individuals who assumed expansive postures (either consciously or inadvertently) were more likely to steal money, cheat on a test, and commit traffic violations in a driving simulation. Results suggested that participants’ self-reported sense of power mediated the link between postural expansiveness and dishonesty. Study 4 revealed that automobiles with more expansive driver’s seats were more likely to be illegally parked on New York City streets. Taken together, the results suggest that, first, environments that expand the body can inadvertently lead people to feel more powerful, and second, these feelings of power can cause dishonest behavior.”

If you sit (or stand) like a powerful man, i.e., an alpha male, you’ll feel more powerful. This feeling of power produces real consequences for other people, whom you will be more likely to screw over for your personal benefit. It also produces another benefit: girls will want to sleep with you.





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  1. Both Obaman and W Bush cross their legs when they sit. I honestly honestly cannot imagine doing that, ever. So how did these pencil-necked “men” become the POTUS?

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    • because women vote (unfortunately)

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      • Don’t have a direct link, but they’re saying over at AoSHQ that McAuliffe won the single female vote over Cuccinelli by 42 points:

        http://minx.cc/?post=344784

        That would be something like a 71-29 landslide [assuming that no single women would vote for a libertardian].

        McAuliffe is a truly horrible, evil person.

        He’s the kinda consigliere who might actually know who really murdered Vince Foster.

        Or at least know who rolled up Vince Foster’s body in the carpet and moved it to Ft Marcy Park.

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      • Money quote:

        “Vic, McAwful won the Single female vote in Va by 42% last night. The sluts love abortion and dildos, and they vote”

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    • One thing I don’t understand is for example: men from Turkey. Turkish men compared to American men tend to behave more masculine and follow more traditional gender roles, yet they are known to kiss other men on the cheek when they greet, and often sit with their legs crossed. One thing I do notice is that a lot of them are still able to portray dominance even while sitting with their legs crossed, something like similar to an old school mafia gangster.

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    • I’ll concede the overall point about posture affecting outlook, but I wouldn’t make too much of crossed legs being a sign of weakness. These guys seem pretty alpha to me, crossed legs or not:

      The one on the far right was in direct command of all the men who landed at Omaha Beach on D-Day, and was the first American two-star general ashore.

      The one in the middle? Well, he went on to other things.

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    • Why? They get enough action from attractive guys.They don’t need to read anything,they are good.
      Stop dreaming that you can change women by bitching online.

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    • Good site. Along with Girls Being Girls and The Rules Revisited. There is a lot of good info out there for women who reject feminism now. Stingray, Embracing, Red Pill Reddit for chicks, et. al.

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  2. it cracks me up a lot to watch couples where this is reversed. broad all alpha and the dude looking like the guy on the right above, or Jack from Will and Grace. lol.

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  3. “he first three experiments showed that individuals who assumed expansive postures (either consciously or inadvertently) were more likely to steal money, cheat on a test, and commit traffic violations in a driving simulation. ”

    This study is worthless if it does not look at results within a race separately. Apart from that, it should also compare postures between IQ matched people because this is also connected with criminality.

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    • > “Apart from that, it should also compare postures between IQ matched people because this is also connected with criminality.”

      My immediate, visceral, gut reaction, upon looking at the two little China boys in the dark sweaters, was that “Expansive” boy looked like a complete moron, whereas “Contractive” boy looked like someone who might actually have something mildly interesting to say in a conversation.

      So maybe I’m a fag, just like you, FX.

      Ugh.

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      • “So maybe I’m a fag, just like you, FX.”

        Good times. I know I will never be happy, but at least I can be gay.

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      • You’d be a lot happier if you were screaming bloody murder right now as you pushed that baby out of your birth canal without anesthesia.

        And then baby pops out.

        And starts crying.

        And finally the endorphins kick in…

        Sweet mother of God almighty, the endorphins kick in.

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      • No, you’re a reactionary paranoid, but that’s OK because what your imagined Cathedral forgets to do to you, capricious Fate will– so you’ll end being right, and completely disappear– the same result.

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  4. seems like on the car part it could be that those types of people are more likely to choose cars with expansive seats, rather than the expansive seats changing the people. it’s pretty expansive outside, but i will still need to consciously adopt this stuff. i do believe you can do that.

    being 2 meters, i have grown up avoiding attention and definitely using contracted poses. i could/should really start taking up some space and getting comfortable doing it.

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  5. I picture men walking around making angels in their personal space.

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  6. Thank you for this actionable advice.

    Everybody read this –> http://qr.ae/N0p8S

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  7. on November 5, 2013 at 10:10 am Lucky White Male

    Testosterone is a feedback loop with your environment. Affected not just by your “inner body” environment but also the reaction you are getting from your “outer” environment.

    Some Ways to boost T noticeably:

    -Alpha expansive body language

    – Low on all grains (spikes estrogen). Eat Paleo. Go 50% Red Meat/ 50% Seafood for your protein. Too much red meat is too fatty and will give you heart issues down the road

    -Short intense weightlifting followed by ample time with extremely languid if barely moving physical activity (Paleo / Taleb “Antifragile” Barbell Strategy -10% Intense/90% lazy bum) Spikes T

    -Have or get higher social status

    -Have some kind of “physical demonstration of success” that people generally will acknowledge and admire you for. For Caesar, victory in war was not enough. Caesar wanted the spoils of victory in the flesh to parade around: a conquered enemy general being led around in chains

    For you reading this, This does not necessarily mean a Bentley. Flashing a wad of cash or lounging in a coffee shop midday weekday can have the same effect on onlookers – shows you are “poolside” , a renegade outsider to the blue pill Matrix, ballsy, a sort of ” who IS this guy” to tight young nubile broads working the Barista, and other guys who look upon you with respect. All feedback into your T levels

    – be sure to put yourself in situations where people are kissing your ass, if you don’t have this on a regular basis. Splurge on a nice hotel room or a high end trendy bar/ restaurant for cocktails or a dinner ( never with a girl you have not yet banged of course!) to get the effect. Reward one of your good whores, show her you can be a ” man of wealth and taste”

    -Be sure you are regularly competing with other men in some capacity, getting compliance from both men and girls in some capacity, and… Winning. T levels require it

    -Keep your Cortisol low generally. Contrary to popular advice, you DO want to occasionally temper up and throw some furniture or break things. Its manly. You want to physically destroy things on an occasional basis

    It’s the chronic cortisol that’s bad and will kill T. The weekly or more than weekly Scotch and Cigar can work wonders

    -Masturbating daily is the road to kill T and too much oxytocin which is the kumbaya hormone. You will turn into Bryan Caplan. Conserve and build up your sexual animal to approach. Approach anxiety will take a backseat when you are genuinely horny. Your COCK will lead the way

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    • Do you have any data supporting your claims? Sounds like a lot of pseudoscience and hyperbole, though I’d be happy to be convinced of the contrary.

      Is there any evidence that anything other than disease, surgery, or exogenous hormone injection can result in major long term changes in a man’s hormonal profile? A slight, temporary boost in testosterone from a bout of weightlifting is not evidence of a meaningful long term effect.

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      • 90% of guys here have no data supporting their claims.
        And those who try to support with any data don’t have basic skills of how to read and analyze a paper.

        Red flags of broscience bs: “testosterone boost” “diet’ “natural” “organic” “cortisol is bad, x peptide is good” etc etc.Don’t waste your time.

        You want advice on hormonal issues-contact your local endocrinologist.

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      • Caramba you are funny.

        and here is 100% evidence of what funny means taken from the free dictionary.com,

        fun·ny (fn)
        adj. fun·ni·er, fun·ni·est
        1.
        a. Causing laughter or amusement.
        b. Intended or designed to amuse.
        2. Strangely or suspiciously odd; curious.
        3. Tricky or deceitful.

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      • Look at the average IT worker.

        Then look at the average oil rig worker.

        There is your fucking proof.

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      • Lol.Do you grow from playing basketball or you play basketball because you were born tall?
        Do you get short by playing ice hockey?

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      • This blog is in english.

        People who sit around, eat shitty food and stare at computer screens are pasty, weak and and normally quite awkward.

        People that work on oil rigs, in the ocean or out in the high plains, engaging in physical labor for 10 or more hours a day.

        Now, which one of those groups will exhibit more alpha traits? Think about it.
        And yes, you can take an IT guy and put him out there, and before you know it he’ll harden up.

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      • Actually I don’t argue that physical exercise has no influence on testosterone levels.Of course it does.

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      • Also, to your “point” – no baseketball doesn’t make you tall. Tall parents and good nutrition makes you tall.

        Being tall is important to basketball. Being tall doesn’t make you a basketball player, though. There are other considerations, like athleticism and skill. That is why there are so few elite NBA players.

        However:

        Muggsy Bogues was a 5′ 3″ NBA player. He got good by playing basketball.

        Novel fucking concept.

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      • Bogues was undoubtedly genetically gifted as well. No one is disputing the fact that people can improve themselves through practice and hard work. The issue is people making claims about how doing X has biological effect Y which then leads to practical outcome Z, when there is little or no evidence that X causes Y or that Y actually leads to significant changes in Z.

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      • One of the guys I ran around with in high school was almost 7′ tall with gigantic hands. He could easily palm a basketball, and he towered over everyone else. The coach begged and begged him to come play basketball, and he eventually acquiesced.

        This white boy was hopeless on the court.

        Apparently no amount of tallness and largeness of hand can make up for the lack of skin pigmentation.

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      • Stop. I can’t stand this negro athletic prowess myth. There is something about West Africans being built for roundball and sprinting (and minstrel shows), but the game’s self-selectivity is more cultural than we acknowledge. While Jéws are trying to decide whether to be doctors or lawyers, blacks’ only dilemma is whether to pursue the NBA or crack slinging. The whites who still play basketball in any serious way are wiggers to a man.

        Meantime I once witnessed a team of no-shit braids-, hats-, and trousers-wearing Orthodox Hebes play as a unit and kick the fuck out of a gaggle of me-first superstar moulies in a pickup game.

        In football, all the good quarterbacks and offensive linemen are white, because those are complex positions to master. Every kicker and punter is likewise white, because that requires serenity under pressure.

        Matt

        [CH: the positions that require an abundance of fast twitch muscle fibers — running back, cornerback, receivers, defensive linemen — are dominated by blacks. i once played a pick up game which had one black guy on the opposing team. he was short and stocky, but that didn’t stop him from blowing past me when he had the ball. i still remember the shock i felt at how quickly and effortlessly he turned on a dime and accelerated away from my grasp. that ain’t 10,000 hours of practice. that’s gene architecture.]

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      • I admire your commitment to being absolutely wrong about everything, Matthew.

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      • In football, all the good quarterbacks and offensive linemen are white, because those are complex positions to master
        ————————————————————————————————

        OK Matt, I know thats what we see, but I suspect causation is more complex than your explanation.

        First of all, if you are a black male smart enough to be a good Q back,/offensive lineman; your employment options are far better than gambling on a starting NFL Q position; plus those guys are trying to take your fucking head off.

        In addition, defense is the more difficult position because you don’t have the benefit of knowing what play the offense will run? You have to be ready for anything and everything and part of your success may depend on intuition. How do you know black guys don’t have a greater ability in that area?

        Causing fumbles is another area you need to credit defense, as is putting the fear of God into your opponents quarterback.

        “thats right lady, thats what you get for putting him out here with us killers”

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      • Is weight lifting making you strong?

        or is it because you are strong that you can lift weights?

        Both. it is a self feeding loop.

        the stronger you get the easier it is to lift weights, the more you lift weight s the stronger you get

        it is the same with testosterone levels, this has been studied, and many of us ( including CH of course ) have provided links.

        Testosterone makes men do things such as taking risk but also winning ( winning the girl , winning the arm pulling contest, winning the hockey gane, winning the fight etc )

        and winning increases testosterone levels

        Self feeding loop

        Google it

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      • That’s proof of nothing. You’re assuming that their occupations are responsible for creating their (supposedly) differing levels of “manliness”. The direction of causation is almost certainly the reverse (assuming this relationship even exists, which I suspect it does). Manlier men are, I assume, more capable of and more attracted to oil rig work than are less manly men, and thus oil rig workers tend to be manlier than average.

        Likewise, I’ve read that high testosterone is negatively correlated with mathematical ability in males (though admittedly I haven’t looked at the research supporting that claim). Thus IT workers and engineers and the like have lower average testosterone than the male population as a whole. Of course, like all group differences, this is statistical. I’m a software engineer whose hobbies include Judo and weightlifting. I’m very masculine in most regards. But virtually all stereotypes are true as statistical generalizations, and it’s certainly the case that men in STEM fields tend to be beta males.

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      • I think men in all fields tend to be beta males. I don’t know anybody who works on the rigs, but everyone else in the petroleum industry is highly inclined to be a beta. I know several fuel truck drivers and truck mechanics who look like alphas and walk like alphas, but they’re betas all the way. All of the fuel terminal managers I know are super beta, holding all the keys to great power (he who commands 50,000,000 gallons of gasoline commands great power!), and yet behaving like scared little Nancy boys when it comes to women. I even know one driver who literally used to be a pimp, but only in Mexico, where he felt superior. At home, he lets his tiny foreign wife dominate him, and it’s clear who really seduced whom in that relationship.

        Basically, I despair of role models in one of the more manly and dangerous industries. There are just as many dweeby nice guys there as in IT. Basically, there are dweeby nice guys in all walks of life, except crime.

        This is why I have always enjoyed hanging out with criminals, I think. One of my best friends was a coke dealer and embezzler, and I had so much fun in his world. Best of all, I didn’t go down in flames when he finally got arrested. Observe the dark realm but be not of it. DAMN I wish I had fucked his girlfriend after he went to jail. I literally took a physical step back and went home to my fat ugly wife, the loyal and dutiful provider that I was.

        So anyway, my vehicle has the widest seats anybody makes, it’s 8′ wide and 60′ long and carries up to 9,200 gallons of gasoline. I think there could literally be something to the idea of something like that having an impact on behavior, because the vast of my approaches so far and nearly 100% of my mental progress have been made while I was at work, and I have been stuck in a cycle for over half a year of sitting around the house on my time off, sitting in front of my computer, and I struggle to keep from crossing my legs here; I struggle to keep my head up and make eye contact here. This place robs me of all my power. My fat ugly wife’s and bitchy fat ugly feminist man-hating daughter’s world robs me of all my power.

        Because I fear the trailer park, gentlemen. I fear the trailer park.

        Living a double life is hard. Those two are so very much my Kryptonite.

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      • on November 5, 2013 at 11:46 am Lucky White Male

        Fascinating.

        Please educate us on how you boost Testosterone, if I am incorrect.

        I’ve just lit up a fabulous cigar with a fresh glass of Ommegang Hennepin ( neither of which will affect my very above-average T level in any meaningful way)

        I await your response

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      • You better be careful brah. Science has shown that the simple act of smoking a cigar can result in a permanent doubling of testosterone levels (cigars are alpha as fuck). You better watch out for dat gyno.

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      • on November 5, 2013 at 12:32 pm Lucky White Male

        You nigga brah?

        Where yo facts brah

        Please enlighten everyone reading this how you personally raise Testosterone if I am incorrect

        Answer me in the White Man’s Kings English so you will be understandable

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      • I don’t engage in any practices with the goal of raising my testosterone levels. I do some of things you mentioned, but not in pursuit of any endocrinological effects (though perhaps they do occur).

        I never said you were incorrect. You gave a long list of practices and claimed that they have meaningful effects on one’s hormones. I asked for evidence supporting these claims.

        To be clear, what I would like to see is evidence that shows that these things effect hormones in a way that is of substantial magnitude and duration, and that these changes per se actually alter a man’s behavior and disposition.

        For instance, a study showing a 10% increase in testosterone for one hour after a weightlifting session is not terribly interesting to me. On the other hand, a randomized controlled trial showing a 50% reduction in average estrogen levels and concurrent behavioral changes after 6 months on a “paleo” diet would be compelling.

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      • For instance, a study showing a 10% increase in testosterone for one hour after a weightlifting session is not terribly interesting to me. On the other hand, a randomized controlled trial showing a 50% reduction in average estrogen levels and concurrent behavioral changes after 6 months on a “paleo” diet would be compelling.

        Uber-pimp Mista NIH grant reviewer,

        IN DA HAUS!

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    • I’ll vouch for everything Lucky says in this post, and I’ve got 15+ years in medicine, working for and with endocrinologists & other health practitioners. This is my world. The most important aspect, IMHO, is cortisol. For evidence, google “pregnenolone steal.” Pregnenolone is the raw material that is made into both cortisol and testosterone, and the more cortisol is made, the less T
      can be made. The power postures work in part by making you feel powerful and therefore reducing stress.

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      • Its all simple as fuck.Get two groups,make one take power poses ,another submissive poses-than measure their hormonal levels,than run stats.

        It has been done zillion of times before.Yes testosterone is higher with power pose.So what?

        If you are a pussy with x testorenone than x+10 wont change much when you are next to 2xx testosterone guy.

        [CH: every little bit helps. power poses won’t turn an omega into an alpha, but it will turn him into a lesser beta. that change can mean the difference between incel and sex with a serviceable 5.]

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      • Power poses may help for a variety of reasons. Tiny, temporary fluctuations in hormone levels are unlikely to be one of them. The subconscious effect a power pose has on others (e.g. tingles) is almost certainly of much greater importance.

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      • Tiny, temporary fluctuations in hormone levels are unlikely to be one of them”

        Not if it fuels a +feedback loop, fo sho. Then some mofo is gonna give in. Fo sho.

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    • > “Masturbating daily is the road to kill T and too much oxytocin which is the kumbaya hormone.”

      Whew.

      Not sure what you’re getting at.

      There’s a whole lotta research now which shows that the more often a guy ejaculates, the higher the quality of his sperm.

      In fact, if you go too long between ejaculations, then when you do finally ejaculate, you’re gonna be shooting some defective [if not completely dead] little swimmers.

      Also, I can guaran-damn-tee that if you go too long between ejaculations, then you are going to be an absolutely HORRIBLE lover for your woman, when you do finally get around to the love-making.

      You’ll be so horny that when you enter her, you’ll cum within about 30 seconds, and she won’t have time for any orgasms at all.

      And then there’s the whole question of “Use it or Lose it” – if you aren’t exercising your plumbing and ejaculating on a regular basis, then there’s the question of whether you will still be able to achieve and MAINTAIN an erection throughout a proper love-making session with your woman.

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      • “Use it or Lose it”??? Ever heard of morning wood? The Mother Earth Goddess who begat us all, each and every one, saw to it that the plumbing gets exercised on a nightly basis.

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      • Ah, I’m dubious that “morning wood” alone is gonna be enough preparation to guarantee that you can stay with your woman and get her through several orgasms.

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    • To boost T you could add:
      1. Lose weight (losing excess increases you testosterone levels).
      2. Zinc(eating shell fish or taking a supplement)
      3. Vitamin D
      4. Get plenty of rest
      5. Consume enough of fats (olive oil, fish oil, coconut oil meat fat etc)
      6. Don’t drink too much alcohol
      7. Don’t work out longer than 60 min. After 60 min T levels start to decline.
      8.Take maca (Grown in Peru, this plant contains compounds called sterols that may block the body’s production of estrogen while boosting testosterone levels. Try mixing three to six tablespoons of whole maca root powder into a drink daily (extracts and capsules are not as effective)
      9. Ginseng

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  8. So this study means we can all act like n166ers now?

    [CH: or george washington.]

    Cool!

    [not for much longer.]

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  9. Have or get higher social status

    Cool! And Gisele Bundchen’s divorce comes when? Not even Tom Brady can hold her once I followthis brilliant advice

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    • She’s a little long in the tooth, man. There are dozens just like her in the south of Brazil…

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      • ya she’s actually the *only* vic secret model who’s not hot. way too tall skinny and manjawed. give me Adriana or any of the other brunettes. brady went slummin’ when he picked her

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    • She has a kid now.

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      • Do you suggest she will divorce him when the kid turns 5-8 years old?
        I believe so.

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      • Two kids actually. If she did divorce, she’d be limited to being a 1) golddigger, targeting old rich dudes, or 2) full-blown cougar, if she decides she’s good in the money department. It would depend upon how alpha Mr. Brady is, though.

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      • He got married (quite young),so already a beta..
        Models have very long shelf life,she can be anything she wants…
        I have come across a dude recently who works in a hotel where Naomi Campbell and Doronin have stayed.He says she was throwing shit into his head ,screaming etc etc..yet the guy tolerated her crazy 40 something year old ass for almost 5 years!

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      • Corweeeenus. Weeeeeeeeeeenus. Do you think Giselle will be on Brazilian food stamps soon? Have to Gof forbid timeshare a private jet instead of own? I too think she would have a LOT of trouble getting a date, being one of the ten most famous models in the world. I mean, guys like you don’t have time to waste.

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  10. This explains why young black males splayed across the drivers seat of there impalas and,300c’s weave across multiple lanes of traffic at 100 miles per hour while high on codeine

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  11. Extra alpha coolness for the “America’s Most Wanted”-style blotting out of the face. Makes him seem even more like a criminal.

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  12. The “fake it till you make it” attitude applies to everything. Just last night, I was reading something by Phillip Lopate, one of our great contemporary essayists. In describing his own evolution as a writer, he says “bluffing is an integral part of becoming a writer: you bluff and you bluff, until one day the world starts to treat you like a writer.”

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  13. Too much red meat is too fatty and will give you heart issues down the road

    Some sorts of fatness are alpha.

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  14. on November 5, 2013 at 11:09 am RappaccinisDaughter

    RE: Your Tweet
    “Never tolerate a girl showing up later than you to a date. Visit another bar then return in 10. She still not there? Leave.”

    I know you only have 140 characters in that format, but can we carve out some reasonable exceptions? Here in Satan’s Squeakhole (aka the Beltway), nobody even starts to get mad until you’re 15 minutes late without a call or text. The traffic is so unpredictable that your traffic app can tell you that everything’s fine when you leave the house…but by the time you’re en route, it’s backed up for miles. And if you’re inside the District proper, it’s illegal to call or text while you’re driving.

    Not contradicting your basic premise that if someone is willing to be rude that early on, they’re only likely to get worse unless you nip it in the bud. Just noting that it’s a little harder to be politely prompt in major metro areas than it is in, say, Dubuque.

    [CH: it’s not about rudeness, it’s about status and, ultimately, sex. a man who has arrived first to a date will be perceived by the woman as lower status than her, and this will toughen his path to sex. she will perceive his lower status on a primal subconscious level, so it doesn’t matter what she claims to the contrary.

    look, you women readers really need to get up to speed on the themes of this blog, otherwise you wind up assuming the same wrong-headed stuff over and over, reducing the evolutionary fitness of the comments section over the long term.]

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    • It would be funny if you could catch him leaving, and then coming back in 10 minutes. I’d ask him, “Where you go? Why didn’t you just have a drink here?”. If you didn’t see him, I guess he’d get away with it.

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      • “Where you go? Why didn’t you just have a drink here?”

        [CH: “i went to meet a friend. i think she’s curious about who i’m on a date with.” #preselection]

        I got a call from my umm, other friend.

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      • Lara,

        My buttox have ballooned with high-pressure gas. When the gas is released, it will be dense and creamy..

        …at that time, it will be your honor to…

        …. Detox my Buttox..

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    • bitches are so fucking dumb.

      “i swear to god i didn’t mean to be late! it’s no big deal anyway lets not be petty and enjoy our first date shall we?”

      meanwhile her pussy dries up cause he got there first

      bitch, STFU and go back to the kitchen

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    • on November 5, 2013 at 12:03 pm RappaccinisDaughter

      “CH: it’s not about rudeness, it’s about status and, ultimately, sex. a man who has arrived first to a date will be perceived by the woman as lower status than her, and this will toughen his path to sex. she will perceive his lower status on a primal subconscious level, so it doesn’t matter what she claims to the contrary.”

      See, that’s the sort of nuance that Twitter just can’t get across. It led me to the wrong conclusion about what you meant. The corollary would, I suppose, be: “If she texts you that she’s running late, just stay at the bar until after she says she’s going to be there.”

      As long as you’re feeling chatty, CH, you never answered my other question yesterday.

      I asked: Do you think “try to avoid canned lines, and write your own stuff” is bad advice? Do you think it contradicts your message, which was to let text flow from an attitude of abundance?

      Your answer would help improve the quality of my commentary, which was (and remains) offered in good faith.

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      • I am taking your advice and composing my own lines. How am I doing? Brutal honesty appreciated.

        Sup girl.
        Damn girl you fine.
        Shit that ass thick.
        Can I get up on that ass?
        Imma get all up on that ass.

        Five, and now I have writer’s block. But I’m feeling good about my start. Thoughts?

        [CH: the boobs need love too. spread it around, miguel juan.]

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      • lzozlzozlzozozz

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      • I like “Can I get up on that ass.” Neck muscles tenses for emphasis would be nice.

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      • Aw, come on, don’t be like that. Look, I made this one special for you. Really special.

        You might say it’s got a little bit of me in it.

        it does resemble you it’s full of shit and smells

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    • I tend to do the opposite, because I like drinking.

      I show up half-an-hour early and laconically enjoy my beer; when she arrives, she’s a petitioner showing up to my court, I’m gracious enough to allow her to sit with me.

      [CH: it’s not a hard and fast rule. if you have the prepossession, you can show up first. it’s best to already be enjoying someone’s company when she arrives. no matter how laconically you drink, you’re gonna look a little pathetic sitting by yourself in silence, waiting for her.]

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      • Laconic drinking? As opposed to prolix drinking?

        There was a speed dating study a few years ago that showed that having the women approach the men made them less selective. Perhaps there is something to this suggestion of arriving before the woman and forcing her to enter “your court” (assuming you don’t get up to hug her like an over-eager beta).

        [CH: that was a speed dating study (posted here). but that’s a different context. on a date, at a bar, a man will look overeager if he arrives first.]

        Even better: arrive early and flirt with other women (if you’re good at it).

        [yes, that’s another option. but if you’re new to the game, best just to make sure you arrive later than her, or leave if she’s running really late.]

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    • > “CH: it’s not about rudeness, it’s about status and, ultimately, sex.”

      But there’s such an easy and obvious solution here.

      When she shows up 15 or 20 or even 30 minutes late, she arrives to find him on his second or third highball, flirting and laughing and kino-ing with the hottest babe in the joint.

      Problem solved.

      Bitch will be DTF.

      Might even have a realistic chance at some 3-way action.

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    • look, you women readers really need to get up to speed on the themes of this blog, otherwise you wind up assuming the same wrong-headed stuff over and over, reducing the evolutionary fitness of the comments section over the long term.

      Just noticed this, did ya?

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  15. Yeah, this works. At a previous job I had to attend weekly meetings where most of those present were of higher rank in the organization than I. I deliberately adopted some “power pose” behaviors, including taking the “power chair” at the end of the table whenever I could. The result was a lot more interaction with the bosses, and a lot more respect for my opinions. It got to the point where I was late to a meeting once and “my” chair was still empty, waiting for me. “Fake it ’till you make it” has its detractors but it does have its place.

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    • When you “fake it till you make it” do you ever find yourself engaging in non-instinctive reactions that actually do not belong as proper responses to the scenario?

      I was thinking about this yesterday with the ‘act like 3 girls are on you’ thing. That’s quite far from my universe. In fact, I often remind myself to act as though the person annoying me will become my boss in a few years. Because it could happen. What if you will need than person later? What if someday they become the best reference for you? So, whenever I feel antagonized or like someone is making unfair demands of me, I think of that- “what if this person will be your boss in 3 years? What kind of impression do you want leave now?” It’s kind of not close at all to “what if 3 girls were on your knob.”

      Anyway, I suspect that my approach to situations where someone is being contrary to me is not necessarily the best. It’s probably better to have some variance in responding to people even if that person will be your boss in 3 years. Does this happen if you consistently remind yourself to display alpha posture or respond as if you are the most desired guy ever? Do you actually end up become a less effective person by not following your gut response in some cases?

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      • feminist(butto)x,

        Hey, your name also ends with ‘x’ !

        For that, it will be your honor to…….

        …..detox my buttox.

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      • “Hey, your name also ends with ‘x’ !”

        Maybe we’re related. Your avatar looks like an upsidedown brown uterus. Yeah, i’d say. I see a resemblance to me.

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      • feminist(butto)x,

        Related, no.

        But my buttox have ballooned with high-pressure, ionized gas. When the gas is released, it will be dense and creamy, like a luscious chocolate mousse…

        At that time, you will be allowed to ceremonially detox my buttox. The audience will be expecting a good show.

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      • “my buttox have ballooned with high-pressure, ionized gas.”

        It sounds like the beginning to a metaphysical transcendental poem.

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  16. Confidence is important around women. But when with men one better have his confidence based on competence since we can smell a bullshiter a mile away. Lucky for us women equate confidence with competence. Anyways fake it till you make it is great moto and it works, but we should not forget to work on the “make it” part and that requires competence. It is important to work on something and become competent at, so you can build bullet proof confidence.

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  17. Been working on this pose, certified pantie-dropper.

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  18. OT: the cathedral is making every effort to fully legitimize women’s natural desire for beta bucks/alpha fucks. http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2013/11/cheating_on_your_spouse_might_just_save_your_marriage.html.

    The article concludes with the following: “In other words, affairs can be good.” Can you even imagine something like this ever being written before feminism poisoned our world?

    How masculine do you think Hanna Rosin’s husband is? Here is a great video of their family deciding that girls are superior to boys: http://bcove.me/11n3g44g.

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    • Okay, I tried to post on that Slate thread.

      We’ll see long it is before my post gets deleted by the Mods.

      LOL’ed.

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    • Enshrining a cuckold promissory note as a standard annex to the marriage contract is the logical nextstep

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    • Horrid, the literary equivalent of distilled diarrhea.

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    • on November 5, 2013 at 6:42 pm Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

      Her mugshot on the Slate piece doesn’t do her Jew nose any justice. You gotta watch that video to see over-sized schnoz in all its Jewiness.

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    • Hanna Rosin… ’nuff said.

      Then again… in all fairness… NotAllYidsAreLikeThat. lulz

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  19. lol it’s amazing how beta this is: http://thoughtcatalog.com/krum/2013/11/an-open-letter-to-girls-who-ignore-my-texts-for-hours-on-end/

    whining about girls not responding to his texts in a timely manner

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    • It’s beta to whine about it. The feeling itself is justified. If you are high value to a woman, she will text you back promptly — unless she REALLY is busy, which will be fairly infrequent.

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      • The feeling itself is beta. An alpha isn’t concerned about some bitch not texting back promptly. He’s already struggling to manage the perpetual deluge of messages from his harem.

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      • Opinion on a behavior, reactions to behavior. Pls learn the difference.

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      • It’s beta to whine about it. The feeling itself is justified.

        Feelings are not opinions. Pls learn the difference.

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      • According to webster they are synonyms. Context clues, brah — feeling as referring to an OPINION piece. But ya, jack off some more about this shit. You can just say ‘fuck that bitch’ and hold an alpha non-react frame while at the same time feeling or having the opinion that non-responsive texting is rude. And you know it.

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      • The principle definition of feelings is emotions, more or less. Nothing about the context suggested you meant “a carefully considered opinion”. If you meant the latter, I suggest you learn to express yourself clearly.

        And the author of that “opinion piece” is blatantly butthurt.

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      • Or you could just be less of an obnoxious pedant — it’s clear you know what I meant, or at least you do now. Yeah, the guy is butthurt….and? His reaction and the way he expresses his feelings maybe are sub-optimal. The opinion itself seems fine.

        Unless you honestly believe that a person can value you and not respond to your texts for hours on end

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      • I agree with you. Not responding to texts within a reasonable amount of time is rude if done intentionally, although I do it to girls occasionally if the situation warrants it.

        The issue was: you made a statement that was ambiguous at best, I interpreted it as meaning something other than what you apparently meant, and then you responded like a smartass.

        I also maintain that experiencing strong negative emotions when a girl doesn’t promptly reply is very beta.

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  20. Lessons from a power alpha:

    Someone from my social circle is as alpha as they get. Tall, built, smart, Harvard law grad. Senior counsel at some fortune 100 company. His wife is a hard 9 with crystal blue eyes. She works at biomed company makes over 100k he makes 300k.

    They just posted on facebook that they are having their first child. 100 plus likes and a plethora of comments. In his younger years he probably banged 50 plus chicks, mostly hot girls. When I heard he got into Harvard law I realized what a badass he truly was. Played football in highschool was always a top tier guy. But opposed to the other one hit wonders (guys that were stars in high school) then faded into ignominy he continued to rise in the ranks of social standing. He worked at it.

    He had the best pic of single women around him and he landed one of the most beautiful girls that I know. Now with the baby on the way he will begin his own family as his own patriarch. This, is as alpha as you can be.

    No gamer can EVER compete with this. EVER EVER EVER. This is why it is important to have some shit going on in your life otherwise all the game you learn will only get you so far. All accomplishment and no game is beta. All game and no accomplishment is also beta. When the years turn your target range will shrivel up quickly.

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    • Ya, that’s why there are tons of losers playing videogames all day and smoking weed while the gfs they cheat on support them, buy them everything, etc.

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      • I’m friends with a high status girl. Not only is she hot, but from a prominent family, is smart, educated (top 20 university) and is very selective in her dating preferences.

        No way she fuck some unemployed loser lol. She’s getting courted by the tip top males.

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      • There are definitely unconventional men who who she’d be attracted to. Most likely, he’d be unemployed because he wants to be, and he wouldn’t be a loser.

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      • “No way she fuck some unemployed loser lol. She’s getting courted by the tip top males.”

        Hearing this never stops being amusing. She probably won’t long-term date and marry an “unemployed loser” to be her Provider husband because obviously other guys chasing her would make better Providers, but under the right circumstances she’ll make one a fuckbuddy. And she’ll spend her husband’s money on him.

        Girls don’t think with logic when a guy is making them feel emotions, they think with their emotions. That’s why when someone asks them what they want or what they’d do, they answer logically…but in the moment it “just happened”.

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      • on November 6, 2013 at 8:51 am Holden Caulfield

        This is total real talk and all the keyboard jockeys and e-badasses will continue to ignore it because they don’t go out and see how women behave in the wild.

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      • Do you find that kind of an existence worth it?

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    • You’re too blinded by the image of “success” to realize this, but this doesn’t impress anyone but lower status individuals. If you were at the same level as he is you’d be like “Okay, great, so he basically just works a lot…”

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      • Tons of hamsterbation on this board.

        Even the CH alpha male test lists career status, level of prestige and income as factors in alpha male status. In addition amount of hair, height, body mass index, weight lifting strength, aggression, etc.

        Unemployed loser playing video games pulling high quality chicks= fat girl saying “they like my personality”

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      • It’s the dating market value test, not the “alpha male test”.

        The unemployed loser who pulls high quality chicks is alpha and in no way comparable to a delusional fat chick. He has to be alpha to accomplish that. Your friend, on the other hand, just has to avoid being too beta.

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      • It is very, very easy to tell which commenters are younger than 25. You are one of them, kid.

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      • Define high quality.

        A hot girl that’s a shot girl, stripper, clubber girl, etc is low status and low quality.

        A hot girl from a wealthier family with strong income potential= high quality

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      • Are you a man? Or is this a sock puppet operated by one of the women here?

        High quality for sex or a casual relationship: hot

        High quality in terms of a serious relationship: hot, feminine, agreeable disposition, and loyal + (insert your idiosyncratic preferences here)

        Who gives a fuck about a woman’s income potential? I’ll take a chronically unemployed 9 over a neurosurgeon 7 any day (holding all else equal)

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      • Who gives a fuck about a woman’s income potential? I’ll take a chronically unemployed 9 over a neurosurgeon 7 any day (holding all else equal)

        Any female neurosurgeons out there are undoubtedly post-Wall anyway.

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      • Lists them as proxies for alpha male status. Read that article by the attractive man — a lot of those external factors do contribute to the necessary inner “attitude.” HOWEVER….it’s the inner attitude that counts for a lot of the success.

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      • +1

        Btw, how you holding up man? Read about your situ with Ms. Miscarriage over the weekend. Hope you’re doing well bro I think you will make out okay.

        Sometimes you win and sometimes you learn.

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      • https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/11/04/the-best-attitude-for-successfully-dating-the-modern-single-woman/#comment-493815

        ehhh there’s the empirical FR evidence of how shitty I’m doing but ya……it’s a major bummer that’s bleeding over into my other relationships. the 7 knows this chick and was friends with her. it’s only a matter of time before she finds out i imagine. altho i’m hoping not so long as the hard no contact holds up.

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      • @Scray
        “The 7 knows this chick and was friends with her. it’s only a matter of time before she finds out i imagine.”

        ooooooo shit. Didn’t know this. Ya that is a ticking time bomb that’s going to blow up in your face down the road. Just so you don’t get blindsided, be mentally prepared for that to happen.

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      • “Okay, great, so he basically just works a lot…” and flies first class, eats at the best restaurants in the world, travels when he wants, commands legions, and lives in the best hotels. And actually has a higher purpose in life so he doesn’t need to fake it. That sounds like too much work though, so it isn’t for me.

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    • Here, alpha means socially dominant and highly skilled in matters of seduction. That’s it. Fuck off with this “true alpha” bullshit. Your friend is admirable, but not necessarily alpha. Given that he’s rich, high status, and good looking, he need not be all that alpha to land a hot wife. A greater beta could pull it off.

      An unemployed, average looking loser who gets that girl to cheat on your friend would be a real alpha.

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    • The trouble with many guys here is that they have chosen to believe that pussy is the only prize. True, without pussy all other accomplishments are for nothing. But without some kind of a mission in life, a man will always feel powerless, and lost.

      I have been there. I have had 30%+ body fat while I tapped more college ass than 20 other guys put together. I didn’t know what I was doing other than eating, fucking, and playing video games. At first it was heaven. In a few short months, I was depressed and suicidal.

      Only someone who’s been living in the arid lands of dry spells all his life will place such a price on tapping ass as to create a life where all he does is tap ass, eat and play video games.

      [CH: or maybe he just has a high libido.]

      Anyone who’s actually been there knows better.

      [there’s not much in this world that’s better than sex and love with a beautiful woman. galactic overlordship is pretty good too.]

      Besides, having wads of cash is a prize in and of itself. Then again, if all men were equally ambitious, or had equal integrity, the world would become much more predictable and boring. And women would have nothing but a man’s looks to go by.

      Even the best gamer has little to no chance of out gaming Clooney. Should he want to fuck his girlfriend for a night, any girl will most likely stray no matter how icy cold her gamer boyfriend’s blood might be. And that’s the difference between a guy who just has game, and a man who’s earned his fame, wealth, status, looks, AND has learned game.

      But then, sour grapes.

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      • Only someone who’s been living in the arid lands of dry spells all his life will place such a price on tapping ass as to create a life where all he does is tap ass, eat and play video games. Anyone who’s actually been there knows better.

        Shh. You’re gonna alienate YaReally’s uppity fan club. And then you’ll be sorry.

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      • matt, be fair. you are absolutely misrepresenting yareally and his belief structure.

        regardless of whether or not it burns your ass, people like yareally are generally very successful in life. they have infectious (in a good way) personalities and, more importantly, make people feel good about themselves rather than badly. i know, i know, there is righteousness in lording your superior intellect over the plebs, but, i’m telling you i’d rather give my money to him than you. most other people would too. if he ever decides to make a change in his life to focus moreso on money than pussy, i’m fairly sure he’d be very successful.

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      • “if he ever decides to make a change in his life to focus moreso on money than pussy, i’m fairly sure he’d be very successful.”

        On that note, there are a lot of successful people who are more than happy to help me out when I shift focus, because I’ve selflessly added a lot of value to their lives.

        I’m starting to focus on work/finances this year, but I prefer to attempt to make it on my own on principle…but make no mistake, I’ve turned down generous offers from people and I could shoot out a handful of txts and get pretty much whatever help/favors I need for free if I wanted to.

        When you give people value, they’re generally grateful enough to WANT to give you value back in their own way (even going out of their way for you). Befriend the right people with the right connections and you’ll have an easier ride in life than most people.

        Everyone in business knows networking is important. Learning game is basically becoming amazing at networking. It would be silly to think that developing the skill of “making people like you” wouldn’t help your career goals in any way lol

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      • Yo Bro.

        You’ve linked me off with some great resources. Allow me to repay the favor:

        Before The Blueprint Decoded, Tyler wrote this 76pger before it got hacked and he gave up on completing it.

        It’s still some insightful shit, and perhaps you can share it with someone who still is getting into game but struggling to connect the dots.

        I’d say it’s a Cliffnoted version of the 20hr Bueprint Decoded audio. Even then, reading some things in text (as opposed to listening to them during the commute) makes them stand out more.

        Here:

        http://flirtisforum.ru/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=862

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      • And yet, it still comes down to value production, doesn’t it?

        Just sarging and playing video games isn’t exactly the same thing.

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      • i’m telling you i’d rather give my money to him than you.

        Oh, did I wander into a solicitation? What is this, Shark Tank? (srsly tho, that show rocks)

        I am not here with my shoeshine box and hat in hand. I am seeking to invest, not to be invested in. I am here with a tuning fork and dynamite. For the Götzen-Dämmerung. So far, with few exceptions, it has been like shouting into a cavernous emptiness.

        That said, don’t take raillery so seriously.

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      • “Shh. You’re gonna alienate YaReally’s uppity fan club. And then you’ll be sorry.”

        Don’t know why you’d think that, unless you were admitting your ignorance of PUA teaching…Matt King, debating things he doesn’t know anything about? Preposterous!

        “True, without pussy all other accomplishments are for nothing. But without some kind of a mission in life, a man will always feel powerless, and lost.”

        Agreed. This is why for YEARS the PUA community has been advocating having goals as a man in life outside of pickup that are higher priority than getting laid, and allowing girls to accompany you while you travel on your path.

        At the same time tho, we also recommend a period of hyperfocus, especially if you are starting out as a hardcase, to make up for lost time and accelerate your learning and lock-in the new behaviors you’re developing via gathering reference experience in-field…but we encourage guys to eventually slow down back to reality to focus on their main missions in life.

        I’ve said this multiple times, and I can link to videos about it if you want, just like I have before…but I’m sure Matt King is aware of this. I mean, to still hold the view that we teach men to just let themselves go and only chase pussy all day for he rest of their life, in the face of all sorts of evidence to the contrary…well, a person would look pretty silly doing that. It’d almost be like half the shit they write is just them talking out their ass about shit they aren’t qualified to talk about.

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      • I’ve said this multiple times, and I can link to videos about it if you want, just like I have before…but I’m sure Matt King is aware of this.

        Yes. I am surely aware. You most certainly can link to videos. This is stipulated, uncontrovertible, and indisputable.

        Would I partner with you? No. Purchase equity in your start-up? No. Offer you an executive position? No. Hire you for middle management? No.

        But I would definitely give you a commission sales job, without hesitation.

        Lots of talking up the product, no leadership instincts, particularly when it comes to handling negative feedback.

        Matt

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      • Now, now, Matt…you have to HAVE value to lord it over people. I’m not real concerned that a 5yo won’t let me have one of his cookies either…I know he’s the king of the castle in his mind. It’s cute lol

        If I ruffle your hair and call you a little rascal will you run off to play doctor in the sandbox with Greg?

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      • “Lots of talking up the product, no leadership instincts, particularly when it comes to handling negative feedback.”

        You couldn’t possibly know that without seeing him work on a business in the real world. Here we debate ideologies. In the real world, I behave somewhat differently compared to how I behave online.

        Here I call people on their BS. In the real world, I let them be right and continue paying me.

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      • RP: “Here I call people on their BS. In the real world, I let them be right and continue paying me.”

        If you’re smart enough to be posting here on a regular basis, then you must have an IQ out around at least 120. Maybe higher than that.

        Which means that your superiors are in positions where they are supposed to be both very smart and very experienced.

        So if you have people in those positions above you – positions which [ought to require] some seriously important decisions been made by them – but who are spouting “BS” on a regular basis, then I STRONGLY urge you to be dusting off your resume and looking to work somewhere with a much higher quality of management.

        Unless, of course, you work in gubmint, in which case endemic managerial incompetence is to be expected…

        PS: And the most supremely awesome quality of management is always to be found in starting your own S-Corporation, and being your own manager.

        Or getting together with three or four other super-smart, super-motivated, super-serious, super-industrious dudes – dudes whom you can trust to be watching your back for you, 24×7 – and starting a Corporation [S/C/LL] with them.

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      • While my other comment is “Awaiting Moderation”, it just dawned on me that maybe you already have your own S-Corporation, and you’re servicing contracts for morons in gubmint who are spouting the “BS”.

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      • Shane, I am on path to creating my own business.

        That’s all I’ll say.

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      • You couldn’t possibly know that without seeing him work on a business in the real world.

        You are in the process of building your own business, right? Good on you.

        Here is some advice. You don’t always have the opportunity to size up a man in full and “see[] him work on a business in the real world” before you decide to partner with him or hire him or transact with him. You have to make educated but decisive judgments based on partial information all the time.

        If you do it long enough, you will develop a good instinct. You will refine your assessment of a man’s character, look for certain tells — like, to pick at random, a snotty know-it-all adolescent attitude and a propensity for disrespect — and make your decisions accordingly. After a while, you can indeed reduce it to a couple telltale qualities, visible to any medium.

        For instance, this hyperbolic wishful-thinking here:

        On that note, there are a lot of successful people who are more than happy to help me out when I shift focus, because I’ve selflessly added a lot of value to their lives.

        … I’ve turned down generous offers from people and I could shoot out a handful of txts and get pretty much whatever help/favors I need for free if I wanted to.

        But how do you know it’s a prima facie exaggeration, Matt?

        Because anyone with the sufficient wherewithal to “help [him] out” didn’t become sufficient by giving more than a negligible amount of hard-earned cash away in gratitude, and most especially not “for free.” I don’t see what is wise about tossing coin to a Peppy PUA Puppy for “selflessly” (if he doesn’t say so himself) “add[ing] a lot of value to their lives.”

        Either you invest your resources wisely, or you end up with no resources to invest. The “lotsa successful people happy to help me” fantasy is his sub-Buddhist understanding of karma applied to “work/finances.” Bruhs helping bruhs out cuz it’s, like, what bruhs do.

        No. In the market, which is the state of nature, mean men will rape you and take all of your money and not feel bad about it. Those who are ambiguous on this point find themselves annihilated in short order. In other words, YaReally’s beneficent benefactors by definition cannot exist, because those who go down that road are quickly picked apart by vultures the moment they revealed their bleeding pussy. Those that survive are extremely jealous of their money and place it with care, to the point of paranoia. Billionaires do not gather billions by squandering dollars — or even pennies. It just runs contrary to their drive for maximum efficiency.

        I believe in giving from largess, but that isn’t the point here. I am not talking about taking a flyer and throwing a kid with potential a few grand. I am talking about a serious belief that leads to serious investment. There is a difference between investing to grow an asset and transacting for goods or services, and there is an even greater difference between a transaction and a charitable donation because somebody got some good feels.

        Again, the element to invest in is YaReally’s teaching ability, because he is an excellent mentor. He truly cares about his charges and is obsessive about keeping up with the details of his industry. He has an engaging pitch and is good with teachable metaphors.

        As for the rest, he will learn the hard way.

        If you can’t glean all that from a passing acquaintance with his online persona, budding entrepreneur, I suggest you pursue a different line of work. “When you’re at a poker table and you can’t tell who the mark is, that means you are the mark.” You have the attitude of prey. And when it comes to making money, I am a sociopathic rapist, and there are plenty of cold blooded, unfazed beasts just like me ready to drink your milkshake.

        Not only is it fun to hear our victims squeal “Daddy,” it’s legal and moral, too.

        Matt

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      • We’re on the same page.

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      • This dialogue from “Midnight in Paris” seems to be a half-rebuttal to the whole ‘pussy isn’t everything’ crowd:

        Ernest Hemingway: You’ll never write well if you fear dying. Do you?
        Gil: Yeah, I do. I’d say probably, might be my greatest fear actually.
        Ernest Hemingway: It’s something all men before you have done, all men will do.
        Gil: I know, I know.
        Ernest Hemingway: Have you ever made love to a truly great woman?
        Gil: Actually, my fiancé is pretty sexy.
        Ernest Hemingway: And when you make love to her you feel true and beautiful passion. And you for at least that moment lose your fear of death.
        Gil: No, that doesn’t happen.
        Ernest Hemingway: I believe that love that is true and real creates a respite from death. All cowardice comes from not loving, or not loving well, which is the same thing. And when the man who is brave and true looks death squarely in the face like some rhino hunters I know, or Belmonte, who’s truly brave. It is because they love with sufficient passion to push death out of their minds, until the return that it does to all men. And then you must make really good love again. Think about it.”

        Having good pussy is what allows you to self-actualize, dudebros.

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      • Starfucker fantasies from the miscegenating incestuous nebbishy kike Allan Koenigsberg is a “rebuttal” to nothing.

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      • Yeah, it’s more than a little disturbing that someone would post some Konigsberg filth at the Chateau.

        If I were Heartiste, that would be grounds for a lifetime banishment.

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      • He’s one of the resident darky muh-dik’kers… wha’dya expect?

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      • lmfao greg the resident butthurt

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      • Heh, heh… “butthurt” seems to be the all-encompassing comeback word with the South Park snark generation.

        Odd that… I don’t feel a thing.

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      • unsurprising, given your extensive ‘getting buttfucked’ experience greg the dickknob, everyone gets a burn.

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      • It’s funny watching who gets actually butthurt in these threads. The trend leans toward the guys who are relieved when the buns burn in the ovens.

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      • I said half. GEEEEEEEZ.

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      • Yay, finally some race twit doggerel from a Mustache Masturbator fan.

        I’ve almost been out of work around here, the real knuckle-draggers have gone off to find meaning in first person shooter games.

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      • Heartiste, be reasonable.

        Can you fuck 6 hours a day?

        I have had days where I fucked for hours. But those are rare.

        Good game itself requires cutting off from the woman after giving her your emotional and physical attention for a while.

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      • [CH: or maybe he just has a high libido.]

        How high? How long can you fuck? How many hours can you spend fucking? I have a very high libido. I fuck almost everyday. Yet I get tired of it once it’s done.

        [there’s not much in this world that’s better than sex and love with a beautiful woman. galactic overlordship is pretty good too.]

        Can you honestly say this after an hour of fucking too?

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      • I have a Natural buddy who says sex gives him more energy and makes him want more, whereas most guys blow their load and are like “okay fuck off now” lol. He’ll bang multiple girls in a day and gets antsy (and annoying) if he goes more than a couple days without sex.

        Far as I can tell tho, he’s an anomaly. And probably when he gets older he’ll slow up. But ya some guys have crazy libidos.

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      • > “He’ll bang multiple girls in a day and gets antsy (and annoying) if he goes more than a couple days without sex.”

        Dude’s dick is gonna be covered in some scary-assed viral and fungal and bacterial growths.

        Have you ever googled pictures of human papilloma virus on the penis?

        https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&tbm=isch&q=papilloma+penis

        I would not want to be the woman who married a fellow like that.

        PS: Dudes who absolutely cannot keep it in their pants very often end up going bi, which is to say, they end up as fags.

        Be careful about getting too drunk in that dude’s presence – particularly if he is substantially larger and more powerful than you, and might have a legitimate shot at pinning you to the ground if you were sufficiently drunk.

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      • “Dude’s dick is gonna be covered in some scary-assed viral and fungal and bacterial growths.”

        Ya that’s what ppl who don’t have much sex have been telling him since he was 16 lol He gets checked regularly and has caught a few minor things like chlamydia but most STI shit is just hype to scare teenagers away from sex. If you do some reading, chlamydia and basically everything except AIDS and herpes can be cleared up quick & easy with anywhere from a day to two weeks of pills.

        “Be careful about getting too drunk in that dude’s presence – particularly if he is substantially larger and more powerful than you, and might have a legitimate shot at pinning you to the ground if you were sufficiently drunk.”

        You sound like this hits close to home for you…is there something you’d like to share with the class? Or do you save this fantasy for when you’re alone with the lotion at night?

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      • . If you do some reading, chlamydia and basically everything except AIDS and herpes can be cleared up quick & easy with anywhere from a day to two weeks of pills.

        Like all true playas you are in utter denial about the dark underbelly of game few want to talk about. Behind every HB8+ there is a long and often scary history of STDs.

        You are going to end up like RooshV. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=willie+lump+lump

        With a dick that looks like an olive loaf. http://media.schadenfreude.net/2009/02/oliveloaf.jpg

        RooshV is proud of how he barebacks almost every girl he bangs. Being proud of playing russian roulette with your dick ain’t too fuckin’ bright.

        re: Herpes- the number hovers around 20% of the population under 30. So you have 5 chambers on this revolver. You are gonna blow your brains out on every 5th chick.

        HPV is practically impossible NOT to get in some form or fashion with the number hoving around 80% for the same population.

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      • > “You sound like this hits close to home for you…is there something you’d like to share with the class? Or do you save this fantasy for when you’re alone with the lotion at night?”

        Not personal experience.

        But I’ve gotten close to that shit – close enough to see it for what it is – and to realize how pervasive it is.

        If you’re not a naturally handsome guy with an exceptionally high IQ, and you’ve never run with the truly elitist crowd before, then you’d be shocked at how many “High-T/AMOG” married men are secretly cheating on their wives with other men, and how those married dudes will try to make all sorts of moves on you if they think they can get away with it.

        In mainstreaming all of this sodomy and sapphistry, the Frankfurt School has unleashed a veritable tsunami of ancient perversions on our civilization.

        Which is just part and parcel of the larger goal of destroying Western Civilization altogether.

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      • No respect. No class.

        But this isn’t how you are in business life, right? You put on a button-down and you’re magically imbued with the dignity and charm that inspires the cooperation required of competitive enterprise?

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      • > “With a dick that looks like an olive loaf. http://media.schadenfreude.net/2009/02/oliveloaf.jpg

        Yikes.

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  21. speaking of power poses ,how about playing the guitar ? how to project sexyness and dominance , i see some folks playin, becoming so focused, making weird facial expression and being all rigid and they eventually contract, guitar playing should all be about expansive poses

    on another topic

    the contrapposto (a well described pose by the Chateau)portrays relaxedness, it’s not like a very expansive pose nor contractive , where does it stand?

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    • Is contrapposto a synonym for antipasto? My Italian is rusty.

      [CH: do you deny the science, matthew?]

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      • As a superstitious papist, I deny all science. Except the Queen of the Sciences.

        But I will never deny the DELICIOSITY of those little banana peppers on my contrapasto.

        [CH: i’ll take your evasion as a no.]

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      • Evading your repetitive dogmatic assertions in a creative way is the only exercise that stimulates me here. The opportunity for an honest dialectic/synthesis passed long ago.

        No worries. It’s still an “amusing” “hobby.” Nothing to kill or die for.

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      • i wonder if some day you will get that the philosophy and the tactical arent mutually exclusive. shrug.

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      • So ur the reason folks think we’re a joke!

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    • Gojira
      speaking of power poses ,how about playing the guitar ?
      —————————————————————————————

      If you can really play, they should present naturally as an expression of your musical vocabulary the same way playing with your eyes closed does.

      But when it comes to duck walking, your gonna have to practice that one.

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  22. here’s a TED talk to help further this study and someone’s understanding — for the interested

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  23. Facebook is a great vehicle for boosting value IF you’re doing cool things. I post photos of doing things that are cool. You have to be careful not to be doing goofy shit: posing in costumes. But wearing a cool suit, being in the company of hot girls etc….all help to build confidence and social proof.

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  24. My balls need to breathe….why would I ever cross my legs?

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  25. This is pathetic thread and replies as from @Mission Man makes it even more P. (“yeah!!, the American Dream comes true ..”)
    [somehow I have to think now on RATM and their messages..]

    Let’s be true: if you ‘FAKE IT…’ – you are not the ONE.
    You are just trying to become the one (small caps)..

    If you make it on your own rules and dont give a shit – you’ve MADE IT.

    It’;s about WHAT YOU WANT, from deep inside you, & not what the surrounding expecting from you to do. OR not to do.

    It’s simple as that

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    • on November 5, 2013 at 5:38 pm Sredni Vashtar

      Half of inner game is just re-learning the traditional traits of a man. Walking tall, not cowering and facing the world with apparent confidence.

      If you practice something for long enough you internalise it. Same goes for confidence. Faking it does work.

      You can spend too much time inside your head- a wise man knows the value of action

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    • You can’t get THERE from HERE. Da?

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  26. when i joke around with girls on dating sites and we go back and forth, they suddenly start asking serious questions and want answers (for example do you have any pics). i continue joking around and they seem to get mad when i don`t answer them and continue fooling around.

    are they mad because it’s a shit test or are they mad at me for not escalating and overgaming?

    i haven’t given them direct answers at this point, i just don’t respond to them and the convo stops (which is fine i’m just testing things out).

    they’re not giving me a third degree about it, but it seems to piss them off. how do you know if it’s a shit test? should i always be in control of the conversation and not let her dictate the conversation?

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    • If, after a certain point, you aren’t willing to share a picture, it can be sort of a dead end. Maybe they sense that you are just testing things out, and they don’t want to continue to invest. Yes, you should try to direct the majority of the conversation.

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    • “they mad at me for not escalating and overgaming?”

      This. They switch gears to asking serious questions when you pass the “hook point” where they’re actually interested in you (so you’ve entered A2 accordin to Mystery Method). They’re interested/attracted at this point so they want some real answers to make sure it’s safe to continue being attracted to you.

      If you keep teasing, they get frustrated because they want to be attracted to you but they need some reassurance of who you are first and you won’t give them that so they can’t let themselves be too attracted and that’s frustrating to them. Eventually they’ll go “fuck it” and give up lol

      The general rule is tease a couple times, then answer for real.

      Girl: “what do you do?”
      Guy: “I’m the top fry cook at Burger King”
      Girl: “lol noooo you’re a liar!!”
      Guy: “Keep calling me names and I won’t let you use my employee discount.”
      Girl: “lolol c’mon I wanna know for real”
      Guy: “I work at (job).”
      Girl: “omg I knew you were lying lolol I love (job)!”

      So there’s a bit of a tease but then you let her have an answer. As you go from Attraction to Comfort (again using MM as a guide here), you tone down the teasing and only sprinkle it in here and there because you’re building a connection.

      The prob with most guys who don’t learn game is they don’t tease at all so the girl doesn’t get a challenge or feel an emotional rollercoaster of ups and downs, so it looks like:

      Girl: “what do you do?”
      Guy: “I work at (job).”
      Girl: “cool…”

      zzzzzzz…same info is revealed to the girl in both cases but one way was emotionally engaging and fun and attractive, the other was boring and handing her his resume.

      The other way guys fuck up is what you’re doing now, where you overgame and don’t pull it back:

      Girl: “what do you do?”
      Guy: “I’m the top fry cook at Burger King”
      Girl: “lol noooo you’re a liar!!”
      Guy: “Keep calling me names and I won’t let you use my employee discount.”
      Girl: “lolol c’mon I wanna know for real”
      Guy: “ok I’m actually the burger flipper instead of the fry cool.”
      Girl: “okay seriously come on”
      Guy: “all the free burgers you can eat!”
      Girl: “I just want to know okay??”
      Guy: “what kind of burger should I make you?”
      Girl: “sigh forget it.” (Delete)

      So congrats, you’re making it past A1 into A2. Try pulling back on the teasing when you sense they’re getting frustrated.

      Then ask them the same question they asked you and qualify their answer like “you’re not making that up are you?” “no I swear!” “Hmmm I love (her answer). You could be trouble for me.” That will take you from A2 to A3, and from there you start transitioning into Comfort aka C1. 🙂

      A lot of this is calibration in the moment…you have to pick up on her vibe. If you can tell she’s getting frustrated, that’s a good sign because it means you’re able to pick up on that vibe. So now you just have to apply the right tool/mechanic to that situ to progress things forward. Some guys are oblivious to what the other person is feeling…this is why we stress field experience (even just online gaming like you’re doing), because this is an art-form and you have to learn calibration first-hand, you can’t just read about it and be good at it.

      Good luck, keep experimenting!

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      • If you keep teasing, they get frustrated because they want to be attracted to you but they need some reassurance of who you are first and you won’t give them that so they can’t let themselves be too attracted and that’s frustrating to them.

        What do you mean by ‘reassurance of who I am’? This wording confuses me even though I kind of understood your point.

        If my flirting is alpha and I keep giving them more alpha and don’t answer their questions, does it frustrates them because I’m not being beta when I need to be (or should I say, attainable?).

        Or does it freak them out because I’m not letting my guard down and letting someone get to know me, which is understandably untrustworthy.

        Generally speaking, do I have to lie to women about my lack of accomplishments or zero experience? Can I reasonably make shit up? Do I omit? Do I reframe certain things?

        And speaking of this A1 A2 stuff, is the Venusian Arts Handbook by Mystery any good for beginners?

        I have a digital copy of it that’s been sitting in my hard drive untouched for the past 7 years lol.

        Back then I read the first 10 pages but stopped because I couldn’t come to terms with this game shit despite taking the red pill years earlier.

        Reading this stuff was impossible because it made me depressed, angry, and even jealous. I also couldn’t come to terms with my failures with women.

        It’s the same reason I couldn’t finish Neil Strauss’ The Game because it made me sick reading (in super fine detail thx Neil), all the pussy he was getting.

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      • “If my flirting is alpha and I keep giving them more alpha and don’t answer their questions”

        Remember: knowing when to push the interaction forward is also alpha. Being oblivious to her signals (like her trying to get to know you once she’s attracted) is beta. Because an alpha has experience with women and understands when to tease and when to advance.

        A lot of guys think “I teased and she laughed and that was a good reaction. So if I keep teasing she’ll keep laughing and that will be even better!!” But there are stages in the pickup where the vibe changes from teasing to building comfort to seduction etc like Mystery breaks down. You don’t go “hey can I get a female opinion? Who do you think lies more men or women?” when she’s on your couch making out with you, even tho that worked great back in A1.

        “does it frustrates them because I’m not being beta when I need to be (or should I say, attainable?).
        Or does it freak them out because I’m not letting my guard down and letting someone get to know me, which is understandably untrustworthy.”

        ehhhh both kind of. It’s basically like imagine you’re trying to tell someone that your dog died and that person won’t stop joking around. You’re like “no srsly dude chill out a sec I’m trying to communicate something important here” and he’s like “ya I’m communicating something important here too, with my dick, heyoooo Lololllol” and you’re just like fuck this person just doesn’t GET it.

        Mystery Method is a lot to take in but it’s a rock solid breakdown and guide on the psychology of seduction. First step is understanding that girls aren’t evil and don’t hate you, they just react on their emotions in the moment and react to the world around them. They’re like puppies digging in the garden and pooping on the couch…they aren’t doing that to spite you out of evil. If you can let go of the anger you can actually enjoy playing the game even if you gotta clean puppy poop off your couch once in a while lol

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      • They’re like puppies digging in the garden and pooping on the couch…they aren’t doing that to spite you out of evil.

        My online experiment has been very limited (just several replies), but it’s crazy how predictable it is.

        If I use what ends up being decent game it seems to work, but if I have sloppy game it doesn’t even work on over-the-hill chicks in their 40s!

        I told a young good looking girl in my opening message that I wanted to pull down her clothes and fuck her (almost those exact words, but worded slightly differently).

        She told me to show her some pics or she’ll ignore me (my profile has no pics).

        I didn’t and that ended the whole thing, but it’s crazy, this is a girl who was probably getting hundreds of messages a week and a turd like me who doesn’t even have a profile pic and who isn’t even tall or muscular managed to catch her attention.

        Meanwhile, when I try classically lame pick up lines (“you’re hot” and its other cheesy derivatives) I get ignored even by average looking old chicks! Man chicks are fucked lol.

        When you taste a bit of success you realize how easy game can be, and learn how responsive women are to alpha behavior.

        I’ve got a long road ahead of me man, thanks for helping me out.

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      • Get a few good pics of yourself, Patrice. Not necessarily in your profile, but ready to send out when asked. Most women will lose interest fast if you don’t send a photo.

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      • Stumbled on to Red Pill, Game, etc.,. a few months back.. Trying to get my head straight after a LTR gone to hell (yeah, that’s a new one right?)! Working my way through the archives here, at Rollo’s and Krauser’s the past couple months – definitely helped me get my bearings straight.

        Would appreciate your advice on a weird situation with that LTR. Is there an email or blog I could write to? Did check on the Archives site but don’t see any options.

        Thanks for your detailed responses and insights on all these posts – sure are helping a whole lot of us!

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      • ch’s contact info is here: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/about/. lots of people ask for advice in the comments as well. however, without knowing anything more about your situation than what you’ve alluded to here, i can confidently say that the best advice is to MOVE ON AND FORGET HER. period. full stop.

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      • yeahokcool,

        Thanks man.. my bad, I should’ve been clearer who I was addressing that to. That was for YaReally.

        Yup – thanks to this site and the others I did wake the f$ck up and move on 🙂 ! Just that she’s been repeatedly trying to get back in touch with me and I am like wtf! I did not want to derail this thread with my version of the snowflake special, that’s the reason I asked if there was an email for YaReally that I could write to.

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    • Shift gears man. That’s your responsibility. Escalate to number close. Escalate to a physical meet from a phone call/texting. Escalate to touch. Escalate to kiss. All the way to fucking.

      I liken it to an employee. I learned this on my first job. I was killing it in sales. I thought I was indispensable. I kinda was. But the owner of the company had other things on his mind. Months later I found out that he had opened up three other branches, and had trained salesmen in all those branches. He taught them my techniques and methods. And he hired people like me.

      They weren’t selling as much as me. But each of them was selling at least half as much as me, sometimes more. And suddenly, I didn’t feel as indispensable as I had always felt.

      It was all because he had the larger vision. While I focused on making him rich, he focused on an entirely different level of multiplying his income, and growing his net worth exponentially.

      Be the visionary. Let her micro control if needs be. But keep your eye on the big prize. Keep escalating. Just like the owner kept opening new branches, while I thought myself to be the leader of the business simply because I was running things at one branch.

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  27. An overlooked T-enhancing tactic? Carry a weapon, legally of course. If you can CCW, do so. That means you have to be very aware, and back out of confrontation, but it is quite likely to raise T.

    Then there are simple things like combat folders, or even steel toed boots. There’s a reason skin-heads and punks and street guys wear them. You can use a Muay Thai front kick or “teep” with them quite effectively if a guy rushes you. This of course pre-supposes fitness.

    You don’t need to pack like Wyatt Earp at the OK Corral to have stuff on you and have the confidence you can use it.

    And here’s the key. Not “I’m gonna own this place” but “wary gunfighter” attitude. Not posing, but ***being***. And the mental arithmetic of who can be a threat, who won’t, and likelihood of danger is alpha. Not dominant-big-man alpha but alpha all the same.

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    • This is horrible advice on so many levels.

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      • Anony
        You live on a separate planet from guns and self-defense aware people. On your planet, the cops show up on time. They follow the law. They never join or instigate looting. They would never make your family a hostage. They would never use your daughter as “leverage”.
        The rest of us live on planet earth. Where the cops will come by in the morning to count the stab wounds; if you are lucky. More typically, they will be casing your home possessions and your women.
        When the next Katrina meltdown brews up the COPS etc will have mere hours to show whose side they are on.

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      • You assume much. I don’t own a gun, but I’d like to. That being said, unless you live in da hood, carrying is ridiculous. Guys who live in safe middle class neighborhoods and carry are simply paranoid; they’re like feminists who think there’s a rapist hiding behind every corner. The probability that you will ever be in a situation where you actually need a gun on you is close to zero. Even if you did get robbed, it would best to just hand over your wallet and let the thug get away, rather than trying to gun him down and become the next Zimmerman.

        The rest of us live on planet earth. Where the cops will come by in the morning to count the stab wounds; if you are lucky. More typically, they will be casing your home possessions and your women.

        You apparently live in some corrupt, god forsaken third world shit hole, like Somalia or Detroit. Must be rough.

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      • The fascinating paradox is that those with the least need for CC are the ones most likely to do so. I.E. You live in BFE, Montana.

        Those of us with “skin in the game” literally, in major metro areas are the ones that should be packing the most. In DC you are pathologically stupid if you carry. The laws are on the books to keep you as defenseless as possible and to punish -hard- if you are carrying. Though you have a much higher than average chance to be the victim of a crime here what is more important is “pick your spots”, and situational awareness.

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      • I carried for awhile… found myself being ultra-polite and going out of my way to deescalate confrontation… didn’t like the new Greg, so I put the rod in the nightstand and went back to being my delightfully irascible self.

        To thine own self be true, sez I.

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      • Hell, forgot to sign-in.

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      • on November 6, 2013 at 1:30 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        Dude. Move 5 miles west to VA. Buy a gun, get a permit to carry it (or don’t—it’s legal to open-carry without a permit ), and then pretty much never need it because those 5 miles might as well be 500 in terms of the crime rate and the types of crime. And if you want to go to M street to party, the cab ride will cost you $22-$25.

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      • I WAS free once. I was horrible!

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      • War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength. Baaaa!

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  28. on November 5, 2013 at 5:31 pm Sredni Vashtar

    You see it with world leaders too.

    Berlusconi’s all swagger, Putin’s the scary goon from a 40s gangster flick but Cameron, Hollande and Barack look like escapees from an accountants convention.

    No wonder the west is screwed.

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    • Fun Fact: Hollande’s nickname in France is “Flanby”. It comes from a prepackaged floppy (flaccid you could say) custard made by Nestle.

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  29. I hope they measured pre-frontal cortex size too. I suspect these people also had more forehead slope as well. Standing like an “alpha” does not mean one is one. It just means that person is a disrespectful asshole if they choose to park their car as such.

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  30. Anyone who tries to park a vehicicle in Manhattan should have their DNA tested for Neanderthalism.. If it is above 3% they should get automatically a Majic Pass. Which gives them the right to seize or incinerate any car that threatens to cause them any annoyance. As a first offense….

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  31. Ah, yes, but my earlier, more philosophically serious and nonviolent comment is still in moderation. Fine. Whatever.. BUT This woman beside me is waiting for somethimg to happen and it is not from any known form of moderatiom.
    “”Pt the dam velcro on…! “” Put down the knife. … ” Brace yourself”

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  32. Carry a weapon, legally of course. If you can CCW, do so. That means you have to be very aware, and back out of confrontation, but it is quite likely to raise T

    RPG player detected. Real life and game-persona already blurred. Possibly a GTA lover.

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    • You had a small ittle oversight – left out penis size (small) and basement location (mom’s).

      Here, I corrected that for ya.

      U’re welcum

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  33. […] More evidence emerges that the game principle of “fake it till you make it” has real world validity. How your posture might make you more likely to cheat, steal, and commit traffic violations.  […]

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  34. on November 6, 2013 at 7:49 am Never Mind the Balzac

    There are always exceptions to any rule…

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  35. Teens at it again: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/11/05/3733998/south-broward-high-students-show.html. Gang rape of girl. Two of the rapists are brainwashed blonde mudsharks who have the misfortune of attending this school in the ghetto.

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    • Hollywood Florida used to be a beautiful little town.

      It’s amazing how quickly the ferals can turn something wonderful into something nightmarish.

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  36. […] [Study: Power Poses Can Change Your Behavior] […]

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  37. Get infected with Toxoplasma!

    Higher perceived dominance in Toxoplasma infected men
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17435678

    Oh, wait, except for the part where you get sterile

    Toxoplasma gondii and Male Reproduction Impairment
    http://jjmicrobiol.com/?page=article&article_id=7184

    Or maybe that’s a good thing…

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  38. […] More evidence emerges that the game principle of “fake it till you make it” has real world validity. How your posture might make you more likely to cheat, steal, and commit traffic violations.  […]

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  39. […] "power behaviour") cause your testosterone to rise. Yeah, saw this on CH as well. Study: Power Poses Can Change Your Behavior | Chateau Heartiste Fascinating stuff. Whereas twats are being instructed by their imbecilic dads (who are trying to […]

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